Two-Hand Sword Build

[Agent287]

Hiya! I'm back again. I got annoyed with failure connection thingy and it's probably becasue it's crowded. So, I move to the other free-to-play server. Anyway, what am I going to increase? And should I go with Knight or Crusader?

Here's my stats: (Correct me, if I'm wrong)

STR: 39 + 2
Agi : 9
Int: 1
Vit : 19 + 1
Dex 9 + 1
LUK: 1

[phranxis]

your build sucks

just be an agi knight much easier less confusing

[Agent287]

T_T I was insulted. I just started using the swordsman.

Anyway, What did I do wrong? And should I priorities the Agi?

[phranxis]

two hand sword build go for agi.

cus of the two hand quicken

[Agent287]

What about str , vit and dex?

[pfja1st]

you must have 90~100 str, 30~40 dex, maybe 30~40 vit with 190~195 aspd(which concerns your agi)
if you would go for two-hand sword mastery, you must only have level 1 sword mastery!
if you would go for a crusader... i must point out that crusaders are better off with 1-hand sword mastery!
i'm not really good in giving out a complete guide with stats, gears, and gameplay...
though you must already have an idea on what you would prefer...!?
(^_^)

[Majora_younglink]

Hiya! I'm back again. I got annoyed with failure connection thingy and it's probably becasue it's crowded. So, I move to the other free-to-play server. Anyway, what am I going to increase? And should I go with Knight or Crusader?

Here's my stats: (Correct me, if I'm wrong)

STR: 39 + 2
Agi : 9
Int: 1
Vit : 19 + 1
Dex 9 + 1
LUK: 1

Yawn, rates, max stats, max lvls would help.

And two handed swordman are generally lord knights/knights due to paladins/crusaders being tank oriented thus having to use shields for extra defense, and that's not mentioning their shield skills.

[phranxis]

okay "monkey avatar guy"
heres the answer to your question:

if your gonna go with two hand sword, go for agi AND go for Knight

since your stat has vit, you have two choices:
1. reset
2 be a turtle(crusader)

[Agent287]

okay "monkey avatar guy"
heres the answer to your question:

if your gonna go with two hand sword, go for agi AND go for Knight

since your stat has vit, you have two choices:
1. reset
2 be a turtle(crusader)

Why? I thought SW jobs are specialize in VIT?
Posted on: January 27, 2008, 01:56:10 pmHello! My Knight's level is now 67. Can I ask where to level up and harvesting better at this level aside Orc Village?

[dronb]

Max your agi to the limit that ur atkspd can make =D and dex improves ur atkspd too but if u want u can use luk for crits and lessen time to be unfroze curse silence and other abnormal status you'll have. Crusaders don't have 2 hand quicken =D

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

So you went AGI after all?

It's a good choice for a Knight(Less for LK) but here are some pointers(All stats are with bonuses):
- Don't max AGI. Maxing stats is generally pointless in most builds, since the last 8 points over 91 are ridiculously expensive and you can get any other stat to 30 with them or something like that. If you want to be a pure AGIer, get 91 and then some gears(Brooch mostly).
- Many people don't realize this but: For AGI Knight, AGI is to increase attack speed, NOT to increase Flee. Only classes which can really rely on Flee as a main defense are 1. Thieves(Because of Increase Dodge) 2. STR/AGI Super Novices(Because of Increase Dodge) 3. Archers(Because they're broken and Improve Concentration). You HAVE to get some VIT. Purest of AGI Knights will have 20VIT. Going lower is seriously bad. 30 is probably optimal. 40 is of course better but where the hell are you taking these stat points from? 50 and more and you're not AGI Knight anymore.
- There's a radical move you can make with AGI Knight. Instead of getting 100STR(Which is a very popular number and rightly so), you can get as low as 70 but instead pump DEX some. DEX furthers increases Aspd and damage, plus your damage output will be more stable, not to mention it decreases skill cast time(BB).
- Use the calculator. Always. For everything. Before you make ANY character, before you even think of a name, use the calc.
- As for leveling, Bibilan 3 and 4 are pretty cool, water armor helps but you can do without it. Siromas also are nice and also Water, now that they drop cards they're also more valuable. And start collecting elemental Claymores if you don't have them yet(You can skip Earth). If there's no one selling them on your server, well, you're pretty much screwed and will have to hunt for cards.

[Agent287]

Thanks. I think I made some mistakes here. Anyway, here's my current stats.

(Level 67)

STR: 40 +6
AGI: 70 +1
VIT: 37 +8
DEX:24 +3

Well, you mention that Agi and Dex increases ASPD, so I might be A critical striker then but
Which is better. AGI and LUCK (Muramasa sword) or AGI , STR and VIT (Claymore sword)?

Man, I'm such an idiot noob.

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

Not using a calc, are you?
The point is, you need to know what job bonuses you will have at job level 50 so you can plan your stats accordingly. For example STR should be in multipliers of 10. Let's say you want to have 100STR. So you look at Knight job bonuses and see that at job level 50 he has +8 job bonus to STR. Therefore you should put 92 points in STR assuming you don't have any gears. But you could hunt for Mantis Cards, each is slotted in Accessory and gives +3STR. So if you have two, that's +6STR right there and your should get down to 86 base STR from the previous 92.
Other stats: AGI can be a random, though using a calculator you can balance it to break to next level of Aspd. VIT should be in multipliers of 5. INT should be in multipliers of 6 unless you're a caster, in which case it should be in multipliers of 35. DEX should be in multipliers of 5 and also affects(slightly) your Aspd so use calc to see where it reaches the next full number. Dex is also used to hit stuff, but unless you go PvP you won't ever really need more than 30 against monsters. LUK should be either 5 or 10 unless you go crit.

Here's your build quickly salvaged with Ragnasim:

STR 86(You need two Mantis Cards to get 100 but they're easy to get, NNN from Prontera)
AGI 82(81 wasn't giving full Aspd with Two-Hand quicken)
VIT 40
INT 6
DEX 39
LUK 1

That is all naked(Except for Mantises) and without buffs other than self-buffs.

Man, I'm such an idiot noob.

You shouldn't worry about it too much, all pre-trans characters are just a way to 99 either way. Trannies are where the real game plays, so worry about screwing your future LK more :P

Other useful links:

I posted the ragnasim calc earlier. Note that it's not perfect, some skill descriptions are vague/wrong(So double-check them if you have any doubts!) and it's based on iRO so some equips from newer episodes simply won't be there. But I still prefer it to Doddler's calc because it's much easier to use.
iRO Wiki, has info about all classes with suggested builds, also quests and pretty much everything, though the database here at RMS is better.
RO Empire Forums, a good build resource because iRO wiki doesn't have everything.
RMS(You're already here) - best english everything database, period. But as a database, it has it's limitations.

[phranxis]

no offence:

Whats with the VIT n' INT?
i think its been blown a little bit.

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

Well he has 37 VIT now. He can't get it down, so the only way is to get it up to 40 to get the HP regen bonus.

And INT? It's just 10 skill points to get it to 6 to get the SP regen bonus, so why not?

[Agent287]

So, I can restart all over again when rebirth?

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

When you rebirth, you're reset to level 1 High Novice and you do it all all over again, except you get some bonuses(+30%HP/SP, a bit more stat points, and of course trans job later instead of second job).

[Agent287]

Ok, I use my calculator and here's my result.

Lv 99 ; Job Lv. 50:

STR: 76 + 14
INT : 5 + 0
AGI : 90 + 4
DEX: 34 + 6
VIT: 37 + 10
LUK: 36 + 4

Equipment:

Claymore (2) (No idea) (No idea if I need to refine this or not)
Full Plate (1) (no Idea)
(No Idea for the Head Gear)
Muffler
Robe
Greaves

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

Headgear - Helm is a good start, 6Def, you can buy it in Izlude.
Armor: Full Plate, Prontera.
Garment: Manteau, Prontera.
Shoes: Greaves, Yuno. Getting slotted ones is very hard though so you will probably want slotted Boots instead.
As I said, getting elemental Claymores is important.

You should upgrade everything to max safety level, then it's just wasting money on overupgrades.

[Agent287]

Sorry for the very late respond.

Uhmmm... is there a better place to level up than Ice Cave?

BTW, I'm also creating a battle forger Blacksmith.

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

I don't think there is. Ice Cave 3 is very popular for AGIs. Or so my sources say.

[Agent287]

I see. I got annoyed with those stones creature called Gazeti. Might as well, level up my BS to forge a wind Claymore. Speaking of that, I don't get the forge.

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

Wow, you're already doing this without ele Claymore? Keep to level 2 as long as you can, there are only 15 Gazetis there.

As for forging, I have no idea.

[Agent287]

Yeah. I can handle without Wind Claymore. All I need is Claymore, Meats and Awakening Potion. Right now, money making at Orc Village.

So, no idea on making elemental weapons? (Darn.)

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

That's the bad things about Knights. Very gear-dependent. And Gravity hates them.

Type /blacksmith to view top ten blacksmiths on the server. Chances are hovewer that if you're playing on a new server there will simply be none. In that case you're pretty much screwed...
- You can try looking for a Sage, they're much more popular than Blacksmiths, and ask/pay him for an Endow
- You can try and get Schweizersabel(Only elemental two-handed sword in the game) but honestly it'll be almost impossible thing to do
- You can get Bastard Sword [2] and hunt for cards to increase race damage instead of elemental damage
- You can ask at your server boards if anyone is making a Blacksmith forger, and be a nice dude and help him or something so he'll get there faster
- You can switch to weaker enemies and mob massively with Bowling Bash

That's all I can think of.

[Agent287]

I see. I guess I have to use my Knight as my money making while my Blacksmith for forging. Hehehe

[Muspel]

i really prefer vit lance build is better for pvp and well i think is better to lvling by mob massively... but if you prefer to get money and lvling.. but it will be really hard to win a duel using an agi build, but if you play well you cuold win anyway just try...

[HuiJun]

no, don't use lance. you can always get more damage with a carded pike and if applicable, endow, while also using a race reducing shield. lances are for when you don't have anything else to level with, or if you want to get owned in pvp.