Super Novice Spirit

[Azma]

Just a quick message to notify the RMS team that the description of the 'Super Novice Spirit' skill is not acurate. Here is what it says:

Effect:  Soullinks to Super Novices, giving them special buffs for the skill's duration.
- Super Novices above LV 90 will be temporarily able to equip ALL Upper/Middle/Lower headgears.
- Super Novices above LV 90 have 1% chance to 'erase' the death record - which means, the last 1% EXP loss will be recovered.
- Super Novices above LV 96 will be temporarily able to equip LV 4 Daggers, 1H Swords, Axes, Maces, and Staffs.

Here is what it should say (modified parts are in bold):

Effect:  Soullinks to Super Novices, giving them special buffs for the skill's duration.
- Super Novices above LV 90 will be temporarily able to equip ALL Upper/Middle/Lower headgears.
- Super Novices above LV ?? have 1% chance to 'erase' the death record - which means, the last 1% EXP loss will be recovered. The All Stats + 10 bonus for Super Novices who have never died will also become available until the next death. An angel  is displayed above the character upon 'death reset' success.
- Super Novices above LV 96 will be temporarily able to equip ALL Maces, Staffs, Daggers, 1H Swords and 1H Axes.

EXPLANATION:

>I have successfully erased my death record by being soul linked while I was LV 86. The level limit might be wrong, or there might actually be none.

>I believe that the most important part of the 'death reset' is not the recovered 1% EXP, but the temporary All Stats +10. This should be said, shouldn't it ?

>The 'death reset' success is shown by an angel visual effect on the 'SOUL LINK' text. Shouldn't this be mentioned ?

>The most important part of what this post is for. The capacity to equip weapons for LV 97+ Super Novices is not limted to LV 4 Weapons. As a proof, my Soul Linked LV 99 Super Novice was able to equip a Lich's Bone Wand [2], a (DEX) Survivor's Rod [1] and a Flamberge, LV 3 Weapons. This is kind of important... Having known this, I wouldn't have prepared a Quadruple Dexterous Rod [4].

>It was not mentioned in the previous description that only One-Handed Axes could be equipped by Soul Linked Super Novices. Two-Handed Axes cannot.

>I changed the order of the Weapons from 'Daggers, 1H Swords, Axes, Maces, and Staffs' to 'Maces, Staffs, Daggers, 1H Swords and 1H Axes' for an important reason: in the first description, the fact that the '1H' from '1H Sword' was read before the 'Axes. Maces and Staffs' part CAN suggest that the 'one-handed' critary applies to Staffs too. This would make Two-Handed Staffs unequippable, which is false. I could actually very well equip a Divine Cross. The second way of saying it eliminates any confusion that the 1H mention could cause.

>I also put '1H' before both 'Swords' and 'Axes' to eliminate any questionning: 'Can two-handed axes be equipped while soul linked ?'
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It was important for me to post to tell you about these mistakes, because I'm actually trying to make a good WoE Super Novice to prove everyone wrong when they say that a Super Novice is weak and useless. And I thought that anyone trying to do the same thing should be able to get acurate descriptions on that skill that gives them so many possibilities for their character. They should know exactly what they can do.

Well, I hope you can correct this as soon as possible. As for the level limit, I really do not know, but I believe that there is actually none. Or the LV 90 limit may apply only to the 1% EXP loss recovery, while the all stat + 10 would be available at all levels ? I don't know.

If you see any mistakes in my correction, please feel free to say so. Also, if you know precisely about the level limit for the 'death reset', I would be grateful if you could give more information, or if you could test it for us.
Posted on: Mar 15, 2009, 11:39 amAfter three days I believe it's okay to do a little "bump" °°.

Did anyone read this ?

[yC]

Azma, which server are you referring to? 

I think I covered this question before in this post here: http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8410.msg58303.html#msg58303

please refer to the code quoted.  I can see "ALL Maces, 1H Staffs, Daggers, 1H Swords and 1H Axes."

but i don't see the death record (could be in another section / file).  But I want to know if you experience is referring to a private server running eAthena or something else.

[Azma]

Yeah, it is a private server, running eAthena Stable. (sorry for the delay I had given up on the possibil;ity of a reply °°') A francophone one (not that it helps) -> Québec Ragnarök Online
Not to make publicity or anything, it's there: www.quebec-ro.net/

Then uh, if you look at the code, you see "case W_STAFF": How is this limited to one-handed staves ? Well, I certify that I DID equip a Divine Cross :p.

[yC]

Actually scratch the 1h, i got it mixed up with axe sword etc.  eA don't have 2 ids for 1h/2h staff.  Sorry.

I would not offer to edit the description even though you said it works THAT way.  The skill description we have is either a translation of kRO or a copy of the English description from iRO (as researched by this guy in his post http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8410.msg58260.html#msg58260). 

For the lv 4 weapon vs all weapon:  I see this as another "bug" that can be taken advantage of until it's fixed.  There are many skills that are like that in the past, no point to put in the description because it could change or be fixed in the future.

The guy from the other topic reported the problem to the eAthena (4 times he said), I think player can only do that much.

For the 'erase death record', is that supposed to be a secret from gravity?  they didn't put it in their description for a reason.  I think it belongs to super novice secret move page.

i could ... maybe ... add in the ... "It is said to have 1% chance to clear the death record of a super novice" as a note at the end.  The reader should know what that means if it matters to them.

[Azma]

This would already make the description less false :p.

Well, okay for the rest ^^. And uh, I don't think I'll report this to eA: I'm almost the only one planning to seriously use a SN so... I'm not really advantaged if I report it o.o.

Moreover, it more or less equilibrates the numerous weaknesses of this class. +9 Lich's Bone Wand roxes. (y'must get it, but... I'll get it è_é)

Well, thanks for everything ~.

EDIT: Oh yeah, maybe it would be good to mention that equipments that are put on through Super Novice Spirit are not removed after the skill's duration °°.

[yC]

i added the following:

Note 1: This skill is said to have 1% chance to clear the death record of a super novice.
Note 2: Items equipped while the skill is active will not be automatically taken off after the skill duration.

They might be gone if i forget about them when i update skill description later ... =/

[Azma]

I'll come and rant if it happens .

PS: You should put capital letters to Super Novice °°.
Posted on: Mar 22, 2009, 06:40 pmIt happened, and I came in to rant ~.

Notes have disappeared.

[yC]

yea told you to remind me lol.  Added back.  Assuming nothing had changed for the skill over the year.