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RateMyServer.Net => Suggestions/Requests => Topic started by: yC on Dec 17, 2007, 06:09 AM

Poll
Question: Should we remove reviews that are made more than 1 year ago?
Option 1: Yes votes: 10
Option 2: No votes: 0
Title: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Dec 17, 2007, 06:09 AM
Okay, I got no time to work on the review section for a long time (except maintenance).  Yet the reviews are keep building up.  This isn't a bad thing.  But the top servers that has been around for a lot longer than the newer servers are having an advantage.  Thus, I suggest to shake things up a little by having all the reviews before 2007-01-01, that is, more than a year old will have to be deleted. 

As I mentioned before, I always want to have a more dynamic listing.  The potential of newer servers are there (well some...), they just need more exposure. 

Also, take into account that server changes over time.  A good server might become a bad one or vice-versa.  This move is necessary.  Hmm actually I am already thinking that i SHOULD.  I am making this post to see if anyone have a very good reason to stop me. 

The other reason is, you know and I know, there are cheaters that cheated the reviews with incentives and got away with it (my bad ><!) doing this will be the only way to make the list "fairer" over time.

It might have to be an on going process where any review that is more than 1 year ago will be deleted to be fair.  It depends if I can create a cron script to do that, if needed.  Maybe once a month (or few months) to clean up review that are a year or older.  Can't do this daily due to server load issue.

For some stats, let's look at my db...

If I search for reviews that are made before 2007 (that is, from 2005-12 to 2006-12), I got a total of 2,675 reviews that will be deleted.  Guess how many reviews we have now >>12,435<<! Well minus maybe a few hundred that are left behind from cheated servers that are banned with their reviews.

... any one strongly disagree let me hear your opinion.  Or anyone that have a suggestion.



Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Dec 17, 2007, 10:25 AM
Question, why not 6 months ago? I know numerous reports, including mine of blackout ro, that are outdated now. The main GM I had a problem with got removed and thus about 40% of the report is worthless since he at first was almost 100% of the problem (I did find out one of the other GMs is corrupt but... meh... still out dated.). My report is about, if not fewer than 6 months old. So although I voted yes, maybe you could see to deleting reviews newer than one year old??
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Dec 17, 2007, 04:54 PM
I agree, deleting the reviews would be a good thing.
As you said, newer server  need more exposure, otherwise they will never get big like servers like Anthem, or Scythe.
I actually think the 6 months is a better idea because of the server changes, many servers change in 6 months, if not all of them in some way.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Infection on Dec 17, 2007, 05:31 PM
Anima is the biggest server. They've definately  got more advertisements than any other server I've seen. If you look on gamesites200, they're all over it.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Dec 17, 2007, 08:28 PM
AnthemRO is, yes.
However, the server is under new management, so I think the reviews are quite invalid.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Dec 17, 2007, 10:17 PM
The anima listing has been long gone.  We delist servers that are dead.  Otherwise we would end up with a list with 180 pages (x25 server each page) of servers.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Dec 17, 2007, 10:57 PM
What I meant was that servers change staff, many servers get bad reviews because of staff.
Change in staff would make those reviews invalid, deleting them would save some bandwidth (I think... /dum)
Anima was only an example.
Another is ScytheRO, Zairik now has new staff, mainly the people who are always in the ventrilo channel.
The former staff was removed or left the server.
Reviews such as my review that was about the staff is now invalid, new staff should have a clean slate, don't you agree?
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Guest on Dec 17, 2007, 11:22 PM
imo do it

if the server really is that great they'll post new ones
and if its not then well then it must not be that great of a place XD
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: asdfqwerty123 on Dec 17, 2007, 11:49 PM
The earliest review for Scythe is on 2007-02-27 so fine with me.
It just puts my server at an even higher rank to beat.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Dec 18, 2007, 01:44 PM
Quote from: Zairik on Dec 17, 2007, 11:49 PM
The earliest review for Scythe is on 2007-02-27 so fine with me.
It just puts my server at an even higher rank to beat.

keep in mine it will be your turn eventually, if i do it in a month to month basics to remove reviews that are over a year old.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Lantis on Jan 14, 2008, 04:09 AM
I think it's a great idea. +1
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Jan 14, 2008, 04:32 AM
btw this is not forgotten yet.  I am just working on other thing at the moment.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Acrued on Jan 14, 2008, 07:22 AM
Every 6 months a clean up should be done.

Like Zone mentions, every 6 months there is bound to have changes in server staff, stability, community, economy and all that jazz.

So i do hope you get round to it yC because it will not only definitely benefit newer servers but alos show new players/searching players a more true rating of the servers.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Jan 14, 2008, 05:41 PM
It will be handled soon, yC does have quite a bit of things she does.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Skotlex on Jan 25, 2008, 06:46 PM
But I like being able to read really old reviews, it gives some backstory on the server's evolution o_O;

If your concern is how very old reviews skew ratings in favour of older servers, why not just make it so the old reviews are not used at all when calculating the ranking and all that? I guess that;s harder to do, but I would really prefer being able to read reviews from very very long ago, to get an idea of how this server has behaved itself through time, or on the very least to get an idea of just how long this server has been around... no? I wish I had noticed this topic a month ago O_o
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Jan 25, 2008, 08:58 PM
yes skotlex i dont want to delete old reviews.  just need to make them don't count for the score and maybe put a separator or w/e to indicate reviews that are older & achieved.

deleting content is not what i wanted.

(still haven't start on this ... I would say ... in a month hopefully ...)
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Pandora on Jan 25, 2008, 10:32 PM
Nuuuu love the old reviews T_T

If a server becomes bad, players will make new reviews to reflect that, no?

I think it's fine the way it is right now :( Takes a long time to build many reviews for smaller population server.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Jan 25, 2008, 10:51 PM
Well, not just that, but storing those eventually adds up to server speed slowing down...o.o
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: yC on Jan 26, 2008, 08:04 AM
Quote from: Zone on Jan 25, 2008, 10:51 PM
Well, not just that, but storing those eventually adds up to server speed slowing down...o.o

well say, if you really care and think that way.  Why don't you stop posting drama / one liner / you know what / etc posts in the forum to help speed up my server lol.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Zone on Jan 26, 2008, 09:29 AM
Cause it is entertainment. Otherwise the forums are dead. I could stop posting if you'd like.
Title: Re: Suggestion: Delete reviews that are made before 2007-01-01
Post by: Pandora on Jan 26, 2008, 01:06 PM
Maybe I'm underestimating this, but are old reviews from still active server using that much space? It's text, no pictures or heavy video, just plain text and not novel-long either the space is limited to like 3 lines? XD

Well, I wont cry a river if you remove them, but since you did ask for opinions I would prefer the old reviews being kept. Of course being from an old server I guess my view on it is a little biased x_x