A record score I've come to understand about this server.
Server:
Stability: 6
Avaibility: 9
Community:
Friendlyness: 5
Eventfulness: 4
Game Masters
Friendliness: 7
Availability: 4
Helpfulness: 8
Game-play
Economy: 3
Guild Competition: 6
Class Balance: 2
Overall: 4/10
A Highrate server in which that needs massive work.
Let me advise everyone that reads this is that there is no such way for a Highrate server to be perfect, I've come to an understanding with that issue. Yet, the proper word that should be used to help find a "near" perfect Highrate server is "reasonable".
A first understanding when you join the server is MVP hunting. It would be expected on a Highrate server that MVPs are buffed to fit the level of a Highrate server. This is true, however even if one does buff up an MVP it has to be "reasonable" to all classes. Every class should be able to fit the same general area of defeating an MVP. It is to be understood that some classes may have different skills and have up and downs on certain situations, but nevertheless it should be equal to a "reasonable" level in which every class stand a chance.
In the case of ExploitRO, MVP's have over 650 Flee, more than 50 Perfect dodge, and 95 Def/Mdef. It is almost nearly impossible for certain classes that don't have a hit bonus to hit MVPs. Any classes that have skills depended on Hit to be able to do damage to a target. So Snipers, High Wizards, Clowns, Gypsy, and Champions are the only classes that can actually put up a fight against MVPs. The rest are thrown under the boat. What Exploit intended; was so that people will need parties to take out MVPs. A little contradiction to herself that she made a MVP hunting guide on her forums specifically for Champions to Solo most MVPs with one skill which we are all familiar with; "Asura".
Another major issue is Class Balance, to an extent when dealing with a Highrate server there are some cards that should be taken out to save the PvP issue of the community. Thanatos and Incantation are good example of cards that need to be taken out of Highrate servers. Another one that plays a huge role is the Assassin Cross Eremes Card in which classes can cloak when executed. Dangerous for certain classes such as Snipers and Champions, Assassin Cross Eremes Card allows Snipers to dominate Bother Mellee classes and Range Classes. Being able to stunlock Mellee classes on the spot and being able to kite away from range attacks with cloak.
One last Card to add to the list is Garm Card, ExploitRO fails to understand the Horror of Champions being able to freeze and do max damage on frozen targets. This issue can be delt with easily.
One last Major Issue is server rotation. In ExploitRO there is simply no motivation to do anything. Once you join the server there are only two things to do, Hunt Buffed MVPs or Do unreasonable Quests. ExploitRO quests seem to be rather repetitive in a way of a lowrate server. By all means if player wanted to join a lowrate server they would join a lowrate server. What I mean by repetitive is you have to hunt things 500 to 1000 times to get 500 to 1000 of a single items. The list of items needed maybe under 10, but Dyes and a sum of x>=500 of each item is unreasonable. Especially if noone PvPs.
When you join ExploitRO, you either see players sitting in Prontera waiting for something to do or see noone at all.
The ironic theme to this server is that; She doesn't even play it.
4/10 for the hard work done putting this server up. This server has been up for almost a year and has only 14 people playing.
EDIT: Upon request I have removed some statements, the statement I've removed weer brought to attention. However, the review still stands in regard to the date. As of now, nothing happened. At later date I will write a new review corresponding a month from now.
/me claps
This is what I like to see - a comprehensive, honest review.
nothing much to add but praise. review has depth to it and good grammar on top of that.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 01, 2009, 09:22 AM
When you join ExploitRO, you either see players sitting in Prontera waiting for something to do or see noone at all. People do not PvP because there is no competition of reward. I've suggested to her a 3v3 Arena in which the victor would receive minor goodies or tokens in which they can turn in for items if enough is accumulated. She's thrown down many good suggestions.
The ironic theme to this server is that; She doesn't even play it.
4/10 for the hard work done putting this server up. This server has been up for almost a year and has only 14 people playing.
Saying it might be very easy for you Mr. Jeon, but the server admin of XploitRO does whatever she can to keep the people happy for your info. If you are taking out any personal grudge on her I don't know, but I know this she has really worked hard for it. There are no fancy GMs and professional coders to help her, all the work on the server has been done by her. Putting down your ideas? Have you ever done anything besides whining this is not good and this is bad? Like if you ever see the positive aspects of the server you might understand, but no. Someone who deals with people's BS each and every day, fixes all the little bugs which she finds/gets reported each and every day, updates the website, do her home work, moderate the forum, each and every day. And yeah, she does have a life too right? Just saying what you want to and speakig out doesnt makes a difference really, even if she has opned it for an year and it still lacks player, she got it to average population of 20 atleast. Why don't you try and make a server yourself, when you have to deal with all this crap, you might understand what it takes to manage a RO server. But, yea you will come again with lots of things, why would I do it etc. Thing is, if you think of giving up before even starting, just tell me where was she wrong to get the server going on. She just started it as a hobby, then for friends, but it grew right? I can still gurantee it would have grown much better had it been played by people, who actually see the positive aspect of it and give some support. you have just registered and played in that server, she has done just a lot more than that. And just saying in one post won't deny that fact that she has worked on the server pretty well, considering she is the only coder, scriptor, gamemaster etc. So, I'm still telling you, just get to the depth of a fact which may hurt others, before posting it as the way you want. It will help you in future. Thats all I had to say. And Exploit, you have done a great job, keep it up, just some whining loosers shouldn't make you steb back from where you are progressing to.
Hi, let's call people whining losers because they didn't have a fabulous experience with the server in question!
Saying "Why don't you do it yourself" is not even a valid response. Servers exist so that players may come and enjoy them. He is a player, and he formed his opinion based on the experience he had there. He thought it could have been better. Background information about the admin's difficulties doing everything alone has nothing to do with whether he had fun during his time on whateverRO.
I would imagine anyone with half a brain can understand that it'd be a burden to do ALL server-side work alone. That does not, however, mean that Jeon is not entitled to his opinion. If you disagree so vehemently, start your own review thread, as opposed to attacking someone with irrelevant information and destroying your credibility.
Quote from: Hutchy on Jun 01, 2009, 06:36 PM
Hi, let's call people whining losers because they didn't have a fabulous experience with the server in question!
Saying "Why don't you do it yourself" is not even a valid response. Servers exist so that players may come and enjoy them. He is a player, and he formed his opinion based on the experience he had there. He thought it could have been better. Background information about the admin's difficulties doing everything alone has nothing to do with whether he had fun during his time on whateverRO.
I would imagine anyone with half a brain can understand that it'd be a burden to do ALL server-side work alone. That does not, however, mean that Jeon is not entitled to his opinion. If you disagree so vehemently, start your own review thread, as opposed to attacking someone with irrelevant information and destroying your credibility.
There was a reason I just quoted some of the last lines of his post. In my opinion he has no rights to say that, because that doesn't comes under server reviews.
Perhaps not, but the rest of his review did, and what he said reflects on his experience... as a review well should. The admin's rejection of suggestions bothers him, as does a lack of activity, whatever the reasons may be.
See, neither of us know what suggestions he made, and what got rejected. But as a server owner, you won't do bad to it, by rejecting good suggestions, its obvious. If someone practically sits and does something like managing a ro server, the innovative ideas will never be rejected. His review is just out of a personal grudge, I play that server too, same do some of my friends, we never got any such feeling for the server.
Hey (Vikrant) Small Wonder, it's Sunman.
There have been Numerous times where I offered my Help and more than enough time to recuperate a reasonable understanding for the server.
I've must've argued with at least 2 GM's there to get a point straight; One left the GM team for rules against the GM staff playing with a legit guild, and another left because the attitude toward the server from the admin wasn't bright.
If anything, I was helping. I suggested numerous ways to help the server straighten itself. Her intentions of letting the players decide was a respectful idea, but in the end; the Admin has to be a leader. Any admin should regard all the players suggestions and develop an idea to help all player achieve a certain goal. An admin cannot add something because a majority of the server wants it, the admin has to be a leader and prove to the server that he/she is a leader and will develop an idea using their suggestions.
By all means, I know she is a coder and most of all I know she's young. Her exams due next week and doesn't have time for anything. Yet, let it be known that players still give good suggestions to help the server. The answer to most of every suggestion to help the server has been "No". Instead of trying to experiment with suggestions to see that it fits to the server; she does not take chances. Of course she has no time to initiate these ideas, yet instead of saying "No" she can at least say "This suggestion will be added to a list for future reference, and will most likely be brought up again when I have the time to discuss further depth into this issue".
As for the BS she gets from players, she needs to learn how to ignore them. If anything I'm just a player with good experience on how to manage a Highrate Server and nothing more than that. If I come off ruthless, that's because it's an issue that needs immediate attention.
And what you quoted was an insight of what the server is. The statement you quoted is a sense of feel to the future players who want to join. I'm not here to advertise a server in need of players, I'm here to give a fact that future players will see in the server. If it's my fault for providing such an insight, then let that be my problem with RMS. The only problem here is that she manage a server with no bright attitude.
If anything, the biggest mistake was letting off an admin that knew how to manage a community. Im not saying names, but anyone who played the server should know him and that he was needed to manage the community.
Believe me, it's not a personal grudge. For one thing, I don't suck up. Another is that I'm truly myself in a given perspective. This is my perspective, any player can vouch for the fact that the owner of ExploitRO does nothing but say "No" to every suggestions.
Plus, just because you're a server owner doesn't automatically give your the title a "Good admin", in this case she was no where near it. I give my respects that she opened a server for the community but her attitude wasn't bright at all. Ask the GM team that left their positions.
You never get any feelings because you don't even play. I play and donated to that server, and trust me you do not come up anywhere near that server. You're an admin of another server and I hardly even hear from you there, and yes I use to play your server. She asked you to write your statement for her. This just goes to show she cannot manage her own arguments let alone her own server. It's not a personal grudge it's bad leadership.
Trust me, you dont play that server, I should know there is only 9-11 people playing and you don't come up anywhere near there.
First off, she didn't say me anything about writing here, I did it myself. Secondly we are not here to talk about my server, keep it on the forums where you are SunMan. Thirdly suggestions, I don't think she says no to everything.. the Exploit Ro forums, suggestion thread can be a good example to that.
So... point is
Jeon wrote a review detailing his thoughts on the server.
Disagreeing with those thoughts does not make his invalid.
/thread
My review is a more of a "As of Now" review. And as of Now it's still 4/10 after the it's been a year opened. There was a wipe and they did lose players because of it, yet everything still feels intact of what it lacks. I was informed by ExploitRO that some suggestion we're brought ot attention however seeing how she is busy she cannot go into full depth about it.
Quote from: Vikrant on Jun 01, 2009, 07:02 PM
There was a reason I just quoted some of the last lines of his post. In my opinion he has no rights to say that, because that doesn't comes under server reviews.
Oh, I'm sorry! I forgot that this was
your forum!
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 02, 2009, 06:44 AM
I was informed by ExploitRO that some suggestion we're brought ot attention however seeing how she is busy she cannot go into full depth about it.
I read this a few times and I don't fully understand.
Do you mean that she rejects suggestions because she is too busy? o.o
The suggestions I offer, she rejects most of the time. Her reasoning are "She is too busy with school, and cannot go into full depth in these suggestions". Yet, she only explains this when I talk to her one on one on MSN. On her forums it's a straight up "No", so pretty much anyone can get the intention that she blatantly rejects the suggestion. Sometimes she doesn't say anything at all and leaves the community to decide, in which I believe is a lost cause because the community will always want the easier way out plus, using that option just shows you cannot take leadership for the things that are important for the server.
Like I said before, I edited my first post in this thread only because she told me she would test my suggestions out before I wrote the review.
Yet, like any review in society; A review is based on what's happening "now". I cannot say for the future that it may change. If it does, Ill write another review if the record upgrades or degrades.
D:
That's kind of rude, to just reject things without giving any reasoning. :[
I understand what it's like to be busy with school and work, but why would you run a server if you have no time to implement new content or listen to the players?
/me shakes head
I have no clue, she explains that running this server is a hobby. I understand that, however I guess summer hasn't hit her yet.