Classic Server Info

[Izuka]

hello.

I am a user who mainly plays classic servers.

I will review the classic server that exists now.

This is just my opinion.


1. payon stories

This server is a crowded server. There are about 400 people. But there are a lot of bots. There are a lot of bots, so the equipment you buy through vendors is cheap. The party is well active and easy to level up.  This is the oldest server. can only 1 client. However, many people use priest buffs and Endow element sage with 2-3 clients.


2. ragnagoat

This server is hard to level up in the beginning. However, the number of people is close to 100 and you can enjoy classic games properly. can only 1 client.


3. asura games

This server is a new server that just came out. Even after 10 days since opening, there are over 120 people. you can enjoy classic games properly. same ragnagoat. And the most attractive thing is that PvP is possible on the hunting ground map. can only 1 client.

[pablomacabro]

hello.

I am a user who mainly plays classic servers.

I will review the classic server that exists now.

This is just my opinion.


1. payon stories

This server is a crowded server. There are about 400 people. But there are a lot of bots. There are a lot of bots, so the equipment you buy through vendors is cheap. The party is well active and easy to level up.  This is the oldest server. can only 1 client. However, many people use priest buffs and Endow element sage with 2-3 clients.

Full of bots and also so pay to win.


2. ragnagoat

This server is hard to level up in the beginning. However, the number of people is close to 100 and you can enjoy classic games properly. can only 1 client.

Do you know if this is episodic release?


3. asura games

This server is a new server that just came out. Even after 10 days since opening, there are over 120 people. you can enjoy classic games properly. same ragnagoat. And the most attractive thing is that PvP is possible on the hunting ground map. can only 1 client.

Tried it and full of bots, vips, customs, and unbalanced things

[harrisonruark]

hello.

I am a user who mainly plays classic servers.

I will review the classic server that exists now.

This is just my opinion.


1. payon stories

This server is a crowded server. There are about 400 people. But there are a lot of bots. There are a lot of bots, so the equipment you buy through vendors is cheap. The party is well active and easy to level up.  This is the oldest server. can only 1 client. However, many people use priest buffs and Endow element sage with 2-3 clients.
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2. ragnagoat

This server is hard to level up in the beginning. However, the number of people is close to 100 and you can enjoy classic games properly. can only 1 client.


3. asura games

This server is a new server that just came out. Even after 10 days since opening, there are over 120 people. you can enjoy classic games properly. same ragnagoat. And the most attractive thing is that PvP is possible on the hunting ground map. can only 1 client.

I am playing the ragnagoat server and I think it's great   The payon stories server has too many bots, which makes me bothered

[Rayeth]

First of all before you make accusations make sure you provide evidence or you're just rambling.

[Aeroskye]

Been playing Ragnagoats for a few months. No complaints, been a nice ride.

[dahman]

the meaning of "classic" server can be diffrent:
some say classic = no renewal. just the normal ragnarok with trans clses.
some say classic = no renewal and no trans, just 2nd jobs (pre EP10)

for information:
Ragnagoats will get trans in 3 months.
they are going to nerf the trans clses tho so ppls that are still 2nd job can catch up.

[Aeroskye]

for information:
Ragnagoats will get trans in 3 months.
they are going to nerf the trans clses tho so ppls that are still 2nd job can catch up.

Nope. That's misinformation.


1. Trans classes are not being nerfed universally, but ONLY IN WoE maps till the server's WoE matures enough to have either an open all classes WoE or 2 different WoEs for PT and Trans.

2. It's temporary.

The idea is to not prevent anyone from progressing. This way people won't need to hold their PT WoE chars from progressing forward. Remember its 1x and not everyone can just make 2 WoE chars with WoE builds. Leveling is harsh. I think its a great middle ground till WoE finalizes.

Imagine having to hold your chars from leveling up because you're not sure if PT woe will continue or not then suddenly needing a Trans class to WoE with or on the flipside Rebirthing your current 9x WoE char only to realize Trans WoE is not coming for the foreseeable future and then having to remake another for just PT WoE.

P.S This is coming from a guy who has been WoE active for past few months.

[2k2]

1. payon stories

This server is a crowded server. There are about 400 people. But there are a lot of bots. There are a lot of bots, so the equipment you buy through vendors is cheap. The party is well active and easy to level up.  This is the oldest server. can only 1 client. However, many people use priest buffs and Endow element sage with 2-3 clients.

- Accurate. Played on it for a couple weeks months ago and the server is a huge clown fiesta. No basic features servers with "no multiclient!" should have, like master account & master account storage (to more easily trade gears between characters and send items to your autotrade merchants), and a bank system, although I think they did add a bank system later on.


- Plagued by bots everywhere (denied by the staff, even when you provide videos), where no matter how often and hard you report them, or you live-report them through @request to online GMs, the staff simply does not ban them at all. This response by them looks very suspicious, at the bare minimum.


- Server activity is mostly dead, so you'd better be fast to hop on a party as soon as it's announced on recruiting chat, or miss the oportunity and you might have to wait for hours or even the next day to be able to level your character in an acceptable pace. Also it's boring as hell and super elitist too because players will only do the same leveling route (which is not a particular problem of this server as most servers these days are like that, although a big mistake from any server Staff not trying to rebalance monsters exp) and recruit very specific classes for it. Good f***ing luck trying to find/being accepted in a party not being one of the meta classes! When you start a discussion about this problem in the community, the most common response you will read is: "just create and level all classes, so you can always join with whatever is neccessary for the them!", which is always the same fixed classes, and at that point, I'm being forced to play something I don't want to, which kills the point of enjoying and having fun.

- Too custom, custom gears, custom maps/monsters/MVPs, none which is properly balanced. Skill rebalance and even some new skills too, mostly which feels it's not quite right, but some specific ones are actually pretty good.

- Players multiclienting everywhere, despite it being a bannable offense. Similarly to the bot problem response, the Server's Staff doesn't care a good portion of the sweaty players are openly (and even admitting) multiclienting. It gets pretty frustrating to see yourself struggling really hard, playing the hard way, following the rules, no buffs, no endow, no healing, and then you warp back to town and you see players with their 2-4 multiclients rebuffing every 5min in front of the CMs sitting there chitchating the casuals. Problem is that most of the ones doing that are from established guilds/groups in the server, likely playing for months/since the beginning/since OathRO so the staff might see them with different eyes? A really bad and unfair thing, anyway.

- Toxic as hell small community fed by a wellkown toxic RO guild. Drama is a daily reality of the server and again, the staff seems to (at least during the time I played) be compliant with it, sometimes even partaking in such toxicity.

- Their past recent history as the previous server OathRO, all the problems and suspicions it had, many of those getting confirmed upon the server's end, makes it really hard to get on a server with such history, and will always leave you a big question mark about how your progress and time invested could suddenly get deleted because of corruption.

2. ragnagoat

This server is hard to level up in the beginning. However, the number of people is close to 100 and you can enjoy classic games properly. can only 1 client.

- Since this quote, the numbers have changed. I gave it a chance a for few days (it was consistently getting 90-105 player count, 50 to 60% being autotrades), before the arrival of Niflheim Episode a few days ago. Since this episode, the player numbers went down substantially, being on average, between 65-80 player count, with 45-58 of that being autotrades. No idea if the update implementation was bad, but it was consistently gaining 1-2 players on average the days before it.

- As mentioned by Izuka, the server is indeed really hard to level at the beginning (read at the end my suggestion, RagnaGoats Staff) which makes me think the huge majority of players just gives up/quit during this process. And then even when you finally manage to go through the beginning, finding a party is hell. I even started it with high-on-demand jobs to more easily find parties, but the two times I tried to (in different days, different hour and I believe different players/group), it was parties of spanish-speakers acting generally really weird and rude, and when they to communicate with me, I replied with a "I don't speak spanish", followed by them replying with a "sry spanish only", despite them recruiting players in english. Lol. I got kicked from both parties (one as Acolyte and another one as Mage) simply for not speaking their language.

- The server describe themselves as "Classic" despite it not being classic at all. It's using all the Pre-Renewal Monster EXP tables, Pre-Re mechanics and formulas.

I was very hyped about this server after frequently reading about it on reddit, but overall, the server just didn't deliver, in my opinion. Doesn't feel classic and the community is yet too small to be able to join there without a group. Don't even want to start thinking how impossible it'd get for me to continue there without multiclient.

TO RAGNAGOATS STAFF: I believe your server bleeds players right at the beginning during the Novice Grounds. It's understandable 1/1/1 servers are supposed to be tough to level, but doesn't have to scare away players during the time their character can't reflect what they really are. By automatically reset your attribute stats when talking to the last Novice Grounds NPC, you'd allow non-melee builds to be able to go through this start more easily, instead of taking over an hour/hours. Pre-Thieves/Swordman/Merchant and maybe even Pre-Archers getting to Job Lv10 in under 10 minutes while Pre-Acolyte or Mage being stuck there for over an hour? Doesn't feel right. Novice Grounds is iconic and 1/1/1 is supposedly to be rough, but, again, this just doesn't feel right.

[OrcLordDaddy]

Nothing annoys me more when I read "It's so hard to level up", no it's not.
You all are just used to +50x rates and probably thousands of freebies and free pots and NPC buff/heal.

1x is the normal way to level up and it's fairly easy.

[ForgotMyOldAccount]

Nothing annoys me more when I read "It's so hard to level up", no it's not.
You all are just used to +50x rates and probably thousands of freebies and free pots and NPC buff/heal.

1x is the normal way to level up and it's fairly easy.

Even official servers were never true 1x servers. At any given time all officials had exp events, battle manuals, cash shop s***, VIP passes. Pure 1x definitely is not and never was the true RO experience. 50x rates aren't reflective either but I would say the true RO experience is more akin to 2-3x.

[2k2]

Nothing annoys me more when I read "It's so hard to level up", no it's not.
You all are just used to +50x rates and probably thousands of freebies and free pots and NPC buff/heal.

1x is the normal way to level up and it's fairly easy.

At what point did anybody in the thread said "it's hard to level up"? In two different messages people said explicitly it's hard to level at the beginning. I can't speak for Izuka, but I explained in my post the "hard" part not being about hard to level in general, but specifically at Novice Grounds, which nobody parties (for whatever reason. Would be so much faster for everyone if they did) and pre-spellcasters taking nearly/over 10 times the time atk-based builds does, and we're not kids with unlimited time to waste. It's a flaw that always existed in RO but easily fixable in private servers. Super bad and dangerous thing especially for small servers such as RagnaGoat, as many potential players might give up during that when a simple change wouldn't affect anything else in the game. The 3 novice classes I leveled there, I noticed the Novice Grounds quite active, but most of the ones struggling in the weaker monsters maps (pre-spellcaster builds) stopped before they reached job level 10. Pretty sure you can see for yourself and confirm it on control panels. It's stupid to lose players that could be adding to yourself because you refuse to make such a simple change that wouldn't affect anything in the server but could make things balanced at the beginning.

And btw, even a 0.1x server wouldn't be hard to level with what we know nowdays.

[Aeroskye]

- Since this quote, the numbers have changed. I gave it a chance a for few days (it was consistently getting 90-105 player count, 50 to 60% being autotrades), before the arrival of Niflheim Episode a few days ago. Since this episode, the player numbers went down substantially, being on average, between 65-80 player count, with 45-58 of that being autotrades. No idea if the update implementation was bad, but it was consistently gaining 1-2 players on average the days before it.

Bro that happens every week after maintenance when all autotraders are logged out lol....It's at 120+ right now as I write this.

[OrcLordDaddy]

The 3 novice classes I leveled there, I noticed the Novice Grounds quite active, but most of the ones struggling in the weaker monsters maps (pre-spellcaster builds) stopped before they reached job level 10.

Every class and every build can reach job level 10 in training grounds super easily unless you skip all the free Novice Potions and free Novice Gear.

All you have to do is fight Spores and spam Novice Pots and bam every class is Job Level 10 within the same time frame, plus minus 2 minutes.
You don't even have to distribute stats, they can all be left at 1.

[wLink]

Every class and every build can reach job level 10 in training grounds super easily unless you skip all the free Novice Potions and free Novice Gear.

All you have to do is fight Spores and spam Novice Pots and bam every class is Job Level 10 within the same time frame, plus minus 2 minutes.
You don't even have to distribute stats, they can all be left at 1.

That's true for most servers but not for every classic server. Back when Ragnagoats were still called ExcelRO they used classic experience from mobs and spores gave less than 20 b/j exp. You'd run out of free novice potions before leaving novice grounds that way. However you could still leave easily if you resorted to killing wekaer mobs like willows and roda frogs, it just took more time.

[Buralabo]

I personally love RagnaGoats out of all the "classic 1x" servers, but their economy is an absolute joke compared to the other 1x servers. I brought it up with a few people a few weeks ago, but they just shunned me off saying it's "a small server so it has to be more expensive". Not sure how that works when Payon Stories has cards 3x less the asking price, but alright. It just forces everyone to farm for drops. And if it doesn't drop despite weeks of farming? Well, better farm zeny for the next two weeks if you work normal hours, because it's gonna cost you a fortune.