Why Private Server over official iRO?

[boxlunch]

The official game is broken and utter s*** and has pretty much been that way since the game was released post-beta after the initial development team left. The problem traces back to the environment of online gaming, when pay2play was popular. This crippled RO after beta since disgruntled players started hacking/bottling and created private servers once they learned they would actually have to play for a game. This pissed off the original developers who then quit working for Gravity. After that, Gravity pretty much went bankrupt and was bought out by Samsung, who then put a dumb donkey in charge of official RO servers. This led to the scrapping of many features (3D MVPs, sprite animation, slayer system) many broken features (LOL mailbox/bank/auction hall) and have done s*** which plagued the game with bugs. Coupled with even more bots overtime and incomplete mechanics (professor is an innately broken class by design because it was never rebalanced properly, along with pretty much every other class), official servers became even worse.

Then came renewal. f*** renewal. A desperate ploy to re-balance the mechanics and add 3rd jobs just completely broke the game. Whatever semblance of stability remained was now gone. The new mechanics did nothing to balance the game, and 3rd jobs pretty much ruined everything by being completely unstable.

What did they do after that? Microtransactions of course. The final nail on the coffin.

Albeit not as bad as RO2, official RO servers are just terribad. There's no metagame. There's no fixes. Game development is run by a complete megalomaniac. All you get are bots and bugs. Enjoy your elitist rates, because that's you have. Kill 10000 mobs and maybe get a card. Private servers may not be perfect --  a lot of them are complete f*** trash with kawaii hats and nothing to offer the game after 12 years -- but at least you can say that they're not run by professionals, but are still able to do a better job than Gravity has done. Even the worst private server is still leagues ahead of official servers at this point. rAthena is f*** magical, and up-to-date clients have no botting problems even with Harmony having died off somewhere.

Either way, let's be honest. Both RO and Private servers will be gone within the year. As soon as Tree of Saviour comes out (which is designed by RO's original team and is pretty much the "real" RO2), both will be dead. ToS will have all of the mechanic balances and features RO was meant to have but never did due to constant neglect.

[iro_ori]

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I agree with a lot of your post. It sounds like you've played iRO and Private Servers just like me. There's a lot of people who judge without playing.

There's one thing I can't agree with you more. The iRO management/GM's are complete donkey. It amazes me how they hire people who don't know jack s*** about their game. It's literally embarrassing. If you go to iRO forums and read the GMs post, they don't even know the very basics of the game. So how could they have any input in towards making the game better? Private Servers GMs know about the game because they are ex-player themselves. This is a legitimate reason to play Private Servers over iRO. Not all the other reasons people are saying. The only problem is I don't think they get enough money income to keep it up which is why they die always.

I don't think iRO or Private Servers will be gone within the year. People have been saying that for years and they're both still here. What I've seen happen throughout the years is when good guilds/players quit, the guilds/players who were bad during that time take over and it's just a cycle.

I don't know about that Tree of Saviors game. You are saying it's basically what RO should be and it will steal RO's population? Sounds interesting but I've heard that about a few games over the years.

[Tom~]

I don't know about that Tree of Saviors game. You are saying it's basically what RO should be and it will steal RO's population? Sounds interesting but I've heard that about a few games over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXBuPMfG5y4

I think it'll most likely kill iRO, idk about private servers.

[yC]

Referring to boxlunch's post, Gravity was never bought by Samsung.  I wish they do so the company can be run better than what we see now.

About Tree of Savior, everyone is saying that it will be the next big thing bleh bleh.  I don't think it can be related to RO that much to be able to kill it, the graphic is from RO's old graphic team (or so I heard?) doesn't mean it is anywhere close to be a replacement of RO.  There are plenty of mmorpg releases over the years, what make this one special?

[youarearetard]

Rejected by iRo, lol. Dude I'm european. But this doesn't really matter. Most officials are bad in the same way.

And please, stop posting such s***.
First of all it was not copied, it was rebuild to prevent copyright issues. The first platform was named "eAthena", but ofc you never heard of it.
And ofc they would be able to beat the s*** out of these iRo crowds. The problem is that noone wants to farm mats if p-servers provide an easier way, harder competition and last but not least a so much more stable connection.
Some of them also playing iRo as well as europeans playing fRo. But the reasons are completely different and many just playing it nearby because they have their roots their. Honestly you would be surprised how many playing both types.

The official game is broken and utter s*** and has pretty much been that way since the game was released post-beta after the initial development team left. The problem traces back to the environment of online gaming, when pay2play was popular. This crippled RO after beta since disgruntled players started hacking/bottling and created private servers once they learned they would actually have to play for a game. This pissed off the original developers who then quit working for Gravity. After that, Gravity pretty much went bankrupt and was bought out by Samsung, who then put a dumb donkey in charge of official RO servers. This led to the scrapping of many features (3D MVPs, sprite animation, slayer system) many broken features (LOL mailbox/bank/auction hall) and have done s*** which plagued the game with bugs. Coupled with even more bots overtime and incomplete mechanics (professor is an innately broken class by design because it was never rebalanced properly, along with pretty much every other class), official servers became even worse.

Then came renewal. f*** renewal. A desperate ploy to re-balance the mechanics and add 3rd jobs just completely broke the game. Whatever semblance of stability remained was now gone. The new mechanics did nothing to balance the game, and 3rd jobs pretty much ruined everything by being completely unstable.

What did they do after that? Microtransactions of course. The final nail on the coffin.

Albeit not as bad as RO2, official RO servers are just terribad. There's no metagame. There's no fixes. Game development is run by a complete megalomaniac. All you get are bots and bugs. Enjoy your elitist rates, because that's you have. Kill 10000 mobs and maybe get a card. Private servers may not be perfect --  a lot of them are complete f*** trash with kawaii hats and nothing to offer the game after 12 years -- but at least you can say that they're not run by professionals, but are still able to do a better job than Gravity has done. Even the worst private server is still leagues ahead of official servers at this point. rAthena is f*** magical, and up-to-date clients have no botting problems even with Harmony having died off somewhere.

Either way, let's be honest. Both RO and Private servers will be gone within the year. As soon as Tree of Saviour comes out (which is designed by RO's original team and is pretty much the "real" RO2), both will be dead. ToS will have all of the mechanic balances and features RO was meant to have but never did due to constant neglect.

Lets be honest here, if official is s**** and has bugs, you are using those bugs

I agree with a lot of your post. It sounds like you've played iRO and Private Servers just like me. There's a lot of people who judge without playing.

There's one thing I can't agree with you more. The iRO management/GM's are complete donkey. It amazes me how they hire people who don't know jack s*** about their game. It's literally embarrassing. If you go to iRO forums and read the GMs post, they don't even know the very basics of the game. So how could they have any input in towards making the game better? Private Servers GMs know about the game because they are ex-player themselves. This is a legitimate reason to play Private Servers over iRO. Not all the other reasons people are saying. The only problem is I don't think they get enough money income to keep it up which is why they die always.

I don't think iRO or Private Servers will be gone within the year. People have been saying that for years and they're both still here. What I've seen happen throughout the years is when good guilds/players quit, the guilds/players who were bad during that time take over and it's just a cycle.

I don't know about that Tree of Saviors game. You are saying it's basically what RO should be and it will steal RO's population? Sounds interesting but I've heard that about a few games over the years.

Seriously? I guess your eAthena or Raethena would stop developing if kRO didn't give you updates. and your Raethena team spoonfeeds you privates with everything.

do you private servers have your own team of bugfixers and player support? I dont think so. and official players give inputs(its not called QQs) about bugs and bots because the GM team does a goodjob and they dont need to run away like these private GMs, that is in case of unable to handle even the simplest of situation or download a newer copy of Rethena from Raethena support site

Dont forget you are using the same bugs that officials once had and the fact that you dont spot any bugs is that you dont have most npcs or features found on official. these are replaced by a single npc that heals you, single npc for build reset, a single npc for jobchange and the fact that most servers advertise themselves as Renewal and don't even have renewal features except for the 3rd jobs the Raethena gives you.

I find that the private servers that boast about renewal features does not even have newer places and mobs for the appropriate episode. Privates dont have the full game like in official because these privates dont want the risk of bugs and having a pain to fix them which they are not even good at. Then again they expect Rathena to spoonfeed them with updates and bugfixes. You private guys are stagnant with the classical RO and dont even have what it takes to be on par with the current trend, namely renewal.

Like the reviews I have read about private servers, they just fill up thier cash shop with loads of items, but they did nothing to fix the bugs that players found, the server owner disappeared with the money unable to handle the bugs and unable to repond to his GM team, leaving those GMs to suffer - it all happened in private servers only and not in official. You dont have to know about a game to be good at it. experience comes with time. WOE is only part of the game and isn't everything. Most part of the game is about leveling up, getting stronger, making a right build and then farming for gears, cards, and other items that enhance your character.

Your private servers are like downloading a PC game from Torrent sites instead of going to a store and buying the full game.

And then these Pirated games dont even offer the full game that you expect.


I've seen more QQ's more frustrated players, more rowdy group and more server hopper in private servers than in official.

If you dont like Official then dont trash talk about them because without them your Ethena or Rethena would stop developing. You still get updates from official, dont forget that. your latest patch gunslinger 2nd classes Rebellion made the patch available to privates before the officials but then how sure are you that these and not loaded with bugs? and how sure are you that your private experts know how to take the game in the right direction?

Private servers rarely have maintenance and if they do get attacked due to ddos, they are shut down for days, months or even years and most of these privates dont even return, which doesn't happen in official.
And in fact, officials keep getting new players everyday, most of which are from private servers and used to be private server GMs that have no clue about the current status of the game and they have come to stay and not hopoff to another server. That is to say, officials are not stagnant like privates and keep growing in server population. while the privates are stagnant with a small population that dont get newer players. and these priavtes need voting sites to be recognised and to survice, otherwise they'll have to shutdown. Offical servers are Recognised without voting sites or advertisements. and no, they are not desperate for donations like in private servers, atleast they dont cheat players like in private servers, wherein users donate for cash shop and donation gears but they dont get what they want in return and these private server guys runs off with the money extroted from the players, taking the server down with them.

and for the guy that mentioned about tree of saviour...stay on topic, this argument is about 'Ragnarok' official vs privates. Tree of Saviour is not even launched, and they will have their own official and 'private' if possible. you worry about your Ragnarok not about ToS.

[Woon]

Can't let this slide.

Private servers rarely have maintenance and if they do get attacked due to ddos, they are shut down for days, months or even years and most of these privates dont even return, which doesn't happen in official.
And in fact, officials keep getting new players everyday, most of which are from private servers and used to be private server GMs that have no clue about the current status of the game and they have come to stay and not hopoff to another server. That is to say, officials are not stagnant like privates and keep growing in server population. while the privates are stagnant with a small population that dont get newer players. and these priavtes need voting sites to be recognised and to survice, otherwise they'll have to shutdown. Offical servers are Recognised without voting sites or advertisements. and no, they are not desperate for donations like in private servers, atleast they dont cheat players like in private servers, wherein users donate for cash shop and donation gears but they dont get what they want in return and these private server guys runs off with the money extroted from the players, taking the server down with them.

I believe if you look at some of the longer lasting servers you will see that most have a scheduled maintenance, and a lot of them do it weekly. As for DDOS, you are also wrong in that aspect. Once again the older servers all have DDOS protection, and I don't mean that wimpy firewall stuff. I mean dedicated hosting with DDOS mitigation plus proper firewall settings. These things you mention pretty much apply to new servers, and I would appreciate it if you did not lump the dedicated servers in with these.

I can't comment on priv server players going to official, as I have no supporting evidence in either direction.
As for private servers being stagnant in terms of population, once again I can say from experience, that information is incorrect. I don't really know where this information is coming from since even new servers hit 500+ population nowadays.

As for official servers not being on voting sites, that's true. But official servers do invest money in advertising and underhanded schemes where they threaten priv servers and try to steal their players. If you look through the RMS history you will find evidence of that. The official server promoters at times behave like freshly graduated marketing majors... hmmm. Seriously look at their social media. Speaking of social media, browse through iro Facebook and check out players complaining about server down times and lag. And then be amazed with their replies and solutions...

Next jump on their forums and look at their support team. I honestly had no intention of bashing on iro, but looking at them right now- they kind of remind me of a freshly launched private server. This is not opinionated, just go look for your self - please.

The people running off with donations, unfortunately that seems to be a trend and it is really saddening. However, once again you cannot say that to older dedicated server. I really wish you would specify in your arguments new vs older servers.

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As for content, private servers have custom instances, monsters, items, maps, features, game mechanics even custom made music just for their servers. These things that official servers will not have.

[exii]

First I wanted to give some serious answers about some wrong imaginations which you have. But the more I read your post the less I was in the mood to make some things clear. There are some guys who want to believe just what they want and not what they really see. It begins by the fact that you really think those sources don't have a bug support. The answer to this is: yes. Ofc the whole sourcecode just felt from heaven once, and there is nobody who can translate these runes. It must be an alien technology.

I will completely stop try to be srs only will make joke about the fact that you know a s*** about p-servers and still want to tell how this is working. I guess that's what a "wannabe" is called. You aren't worth an advanced time investigation.

Lets be honest here, if official is s**** and has bugs, you are using those bugs

Seriously? I guess your eAthena or Raethena would stop developing if kRO didn't give you updates. and your Raethena team spoonfeeds you privates with everything.

do you private servers have your own team of bugfixers and player support? I dont think so. and official players give inputs(its not called QQs) about bugs and bots because the GM team does a goodjob and they dont need to run away like these private GMs, that is in case of unable to handle even the simplest of situation or download a newer copy of Rethena from Raethena support site

Dont forget you are using the same bugs that officials once had and the fact that you dont spot any bugs is that you dont have most npcs or features found on official. these are replaced by a single npc that heals you, single npc for build reset, a single npc for jobchange and the fact that most servers advertise themselves as Renewal and don't even have renewal features except for the 3rd jobs the Raethena gives you.

I find that the private servers that boast about renewal features does not even have newer places and mobs for the appropriate episode. Privates dont have the full game like in official because these privates dont want the risk of bugs and having a pain to fix them which they are not even good at. Then again they expect Rathena to spoonfeed them with updates and bugfixes. You private guys are stagnant with the classical RO and dont even have what it takes to be on par with the current trend, namely renewal.

Like the reviews I have read about private servers, they just fill up thier cash shop with loads of items, but they did nothing to fix the bugs that players found, the server owner disappeared with the money unable to handle the bugs and unable to repond to his GM team, leaving those GMs to suffer - it all happened in private servers only and not in official. You dont have to know about a game to be good at it. experience comes with time. WOE is only part of the game and isn't everything. Most part of the game is about leveling up, getting stronger, making a right build and then farming for gears, cards, and other items that enhance your character.

Your private servers are like downloading a PC game from Torrent sites instead of going to a store and buying the full game.

And then these Pirated games dont even offer the full game that you expect.


I've seen more QQ's more frustrated players, more rowdy group and more server hopper in private servers than in official.

If you dont like Official then dont trash talk about them because without them your Ethena or Rethena would stop developing. You still get updates from official, dont forget that. your latest patch gunslinger 2nd classes Rebellion made the patch available to privates before the officials but then how sure are you that these and not loaded with bugs? and how sure are you that your private experts know how to take the game in the right direction?

Private servers rarely have maintenance and if they do get attacked due to ddos, they are shut down for days, months or even years and most of these privates dont even return, which doesn't happen in official.
And in fact, officials keep getting new players everyday, most of which are from private servers and used to be private server GMs that have no clue about the current status of the game and they have come to stay and not hopoff to another server. That is to say, officials are not stagnant like privates and keep growing in server population. while the privates are stagnant with a small population that dont get newer players. and these priavtes need voting sites to be recognised and to survice, otherwise they'll have to shutdown. Offical servers are Recognised without voting sites or advertisements. and no, they are not desperate for donations like in private servers, atleast they dont cheat players like in private servers, wherein users donate for cash shop and donation gears but they dont get what they want in return and these private server guys runs off with the money extroted from the players, taking the server down with them.

and for the guy that mentioned about tree of saviour...stay on topic, this argument is about 'Ragnarok' official vs privates. Tree of Saviour is not even launched, and they will have their own official and 'private' if possible. you worry about your Ragnarok not about ToS.

The source is called "rAthena".

Most npc functions can be read out and installed in 5mins btw. http://rathena.org/board/topic/65959-packetparser-yommys-amazing-ragnarok-packet-analyzer-framework

I'm really excited when you are going to release new postings.

[youarearetard]

First I wanted to give some serious answers about some wrong imaginations which you have. But the more I read your post the less I was in the mood to make some things clear. There are some guys who want to believe just what they want and not what they really see. It begins by the fact that you really think those sources don't have a bug support. The answer to this is: yes. Ofc the whole sourcecode just felt from heaven once, and there is nobody who can translate these runes. It must be an alien technology.

I will completely stop try to be srs only will make joke about the fact that you know a s*** about p-servers and still want to tell how this is working. I guess that's what a "wannabe" is called. You aren't worth an advanced time investigation.

The source is called "rAthena".

Most npc functions can be read out and installed in 5mins btw. http://rathena.org/board/topic/65959-packetparser-yommys-amazing-ragnarok-packet-analyzer-framework

I'm really excited when you are going to release new postings.

LOL, cool story bro ^_^

[youarearetard]

Can't let this slide.
I believe if you look at some of the longer lasting servers you will see that most have a scheduled maintenance, and a lot of them do it weekly. As for DDOS, you are also wrong in that aspect. Once again the older servers all have DDOS protection, and I don't mean that wimpy firewall stuff. I mean dedicated hosting with DDOS mitigation plus proper firewall settings. These things you mention pretty much apply to new servers, and I would appreciate it if you did not lump the dedicated servers in with these.

I can't comment on priv server players going to official, as I have no supporting evidence in either direction.
As for private servers being stagnant in terms of population, once again I can say from experience, that information is incorrect. I don't really know where this information is coming from since even new servers hit 500+ population nowadays.

As for official servers not being on voting sites, that's true. But official servers do invest money in advertising and underhanded schemes where they threaten priv servers and try to steal their players. If you look through the RMS history you will find evidence of that. The official server promoters at times behave like freshly graduated marketing majors... hmmm. Seriously look at their social media. Speaking of social media, browse through iro Facebook and check out players complaining about server down times and lag. And then be amazed with their replies and solutions...

Next jump on their forums and look at their support team. I honestly had no intention of bashing on iro, but looking at them right now- they kind of remind me of a freshly launched private server. This is not opinionated, just go look for your self - please.

The people running off with donations, unfortunately that seems to be a trend and it is really saddening. However, once again you cannot say that to older dedicated server. I really wish you would specify in your arguments new vs older servers.

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As for content, private servers have custom instances, monsters, items, maps, features, game mechanics even custom made music just for their servers. These things that official servers will not have.

private servers are just a servers, while the official is a Corporate, not just a server. That answers your argument.

[Tom~]

Idk why is anyone trying to have a smart debate with "youarearetard". He is too biased to even try to understand anything thrown at him, and he just repeats what he has said again and again, showing no knowledge about private servers in the meantime.

@yC: It's not only the graphics. The team that was behind the creation and development of RO (before they left Gravity and were replaced by a team that has no idea what its doing) is developing this game. I guess you could say it's the "spiritual" RO2. Which is why everyone says it's going to kill RO-- it's the sequel many have been waiting for.

[lilsword]

Many years ago, i was playing iRO but i was a bit disappointed when gms cannot block bots. I got bored especially when bots are KS'ing you. So i moved to Ragnarok Frontier (Not trying to advertise but that's the server's name). It was pretty much the same as iRO. so i stayed there for few years because bots cannot connect to this server. Take note that Ragnarok Frontier is running on Aegis platform which is the same as iRO. But Ragnarok Frontier's staffs managed to create their own method to block bots.

[boxlunch]

Referring to boxlunch's post, Gravity was never bought by Samsung.  I wish they do so the company can be run better than what we see now.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/2910/t131670-everyone-just-loves-samsung/

Lets be honest here, if official is s**** and has bugs, you are using those bugs

You do realize private servers can change the code and fix those bugs? I don't think you understand how private servers work.

Seriously? I guess your eAthena or Raethena would stop developing if kRO didn't give you updates. and your Raethena team spoonfeeds you privates with everything.

do you private servers have your own team of bugfixers and player support? I dont think so. and official players give inputs(its not called QQs) about bugs and bots because the GM team does a goodjob and they dont need to run away like these private GMs, that is in case of unable to handle even the simplest of situation or download a newer copy of Rethena from Raethena support site

Dont forget you are using the same bugs that officials once had and the fact that you dont spot any bugs is that you dont have most npcs or features found on official. these are replaced by a single npc that heals you, single npc for build reset, a single npc for jobchange and the fact that most servers advertise themselves as Renewal and don't even have renewal features except for the 3rd jobs the Raethena gives you.

I find that the private servers that boast about renewal features does not even have newer places and mobs for the appropriate episode. Privates dont have the full game like in official because these privates dont want the risk of bugs and having a pain to fix them which they are not even good at. Then again they expect Rathena to spoonfeed them with updates and bugfixes. You private guys are stagnant with the classical RO and dont even have what it takes to be on par with the current trend, namely renewal.

Like the reviews I have read about private servers, they just fill up thier cash shop with loads of items, but they did nothing to fix the bugs that players found, the server owner disappeared with the money unable to handle the bugs and unable to repond to his GM team, leaving those GMs to suffer - it all happened in private servers only and not in official. You dont have to know about a game to be good at it. experience comes with time. WOE is only part of the game and isn't everything. Most part of the game is about leveling up, getting stronger, making a right build and then farming for gears, cards, and other items that enhance your character.

Your private servers are like downloading a PC game from Torrent sites instead of going to a store and buying the full game.

And then these Pirated games dont even offer the full game that you expect.


I've seen more QQ's more frustrated players, more rowdy group and more server hopper in private servers than in official.

If you dont like Official then dont trash talk about them because without them your Ethena or Rethena would stop developing. You still get updates from official, dont forget that. your latest patch gunslinger 2nd classes Rebellion made the patch available to privates before the officials but then how sure are you that these and not loaded with bugs? and how sure are you that your private experts know how to take the game in the right direction?

Private servers rarely have maintenance and if they do get attacked due to ddos, they are shut down for days, months or even years and most of these privates dont even return, which doesn't happen in official.
And in fact, officials keep getting new players everyday, most of which are from private servers and used to be private server GMs that have no clue about the current status of the game and they have come to stay and not hopoff to another server. That is to say, officials are not stagnant like privates and keep growing in server population. while the privates are stagnant with a small population that dont get newer players. and these priavtes need voting sites to be recognised and to survice, otherwise they'll have to shutdown. Offical servers are Recognised without voting sites or advertisements. and no, they are not desperate for donations like in private servers, atleast they dont cheat players like in private servers, wherein users donate for cash shop and donation gears but they dont get what they want in return and these private server guys runs off with the money extroted from the players, taking the server down with them.

and for the guy that mentioned about tree of saviour...stay on topic, this argument is about 'Ragnarok' official vs privates. Tree of Saviour is not even launched, and they will have their own official and 'private' if possible. you worry about your Ragnarok not about ToS.

Yeah, you obviously have no idea how private servers work.

• rAthena (and eAthena in the past) is an entire community dedicated to fixing broken RO features and creating entirely new content. Other than the base data required for emulation, the entire game can be rebuilt from bottom up depending on the server.
• Yeah, private servers have their own development teams who create server-specific content.
• Private servers develop better levelling systems depending on their rates and the meta-game they're pursuing. Don't tell us that because private servers don't have certain features that they're bad. Those s*** features are the reason official RO servers are so bad. And no, the GM doesn't really do s*** on official servers. Most localized version of RO don't even have any pwoer and all they do is push microtransactions -- much like some of the private servers that are pay2win.
• Like I said, not all Private Servers are great, but then again they're not run by professionals. A lot of them are utter s***, but in the end, they're still better than official servers.
• It sounds like you played on a s*** Private server and now you're QQing about your donation experience. Too bad, you should've played on a better server.
• Tree of Saviour is very relevant. It's the game RO was always meant to be.

At the end of the day, private servers only exist because the official game was executed so poorly. Look at other MMOs and you'll see how almost none of them have any private servers. If Gravity did a better job then this issue would never have occurred. But it did, 12 years ago. If iRO was so great, all the private servers would've shut down when iRO went f2p a few years back. But they didn't, because even if it was free, no one wanted to play on that piece of s***.

[youarearetard]

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/2910/t131670-everyone-just-loves-samsung/
You do realize private servers can change the code and fix those bugs? I don't think you understand how private servers work.
Yeah, you obviously have no idea how private servers work.

• rAthena (and eAthena in the past) is an entire community dedicated to fixing broken RO features and creating entirely new content. Other than the base data required for emulation, the entire game can be rebuilt from bottom up depending on the server.
• Yeah, private servers have their own development teams who create server-specific content.
• Private servers develop better levelling systems depending on their rates and the meta-game they're pursuing. Don't tell us that because private servers don't have certain features that they're bad. Those s*** features are the reason official RO servers are so bad. And no, the GM doesn't really do s*** on official servers. Most localized version of RO don't even have any pwoer and all they do is push microtransactions -- much like some of the private servers that are pay2win.
• Like I said, not all Private Servers are great, but then again they're not run by professionals. A lot of them are utter s***, but in the end, they're still better than official servers.
• It sounds like you played on a s*** Private server and now you're QQing about your donation experience. Too bad, you should've played on a better server.
• Tree of Saviour is very relevant. It's the game RO was always meant to be.

At the end of the day, private servers only exist because the official game was executed so poorly. Look at other MMOs and you'll see how almost none of them have any private servers. If Gravity did a better job then this issue would never have occurred. But it did, 12 years ago. If iRO was so great, all the private servers would've shut down when iRO went f2p a few years back. But they didn't, because even if it was free, no one wanted to play on that piece of s***.

LOL at these guys and at the original poster.

Idk why is anyone trying to have a smart debate with "youarearetard". He is too biased to even try to understand anything thrown at him, and he just repeats what he has said again and again, showing no knowledge about private servers in the meantime.

LOL I am not biased, I could say you are.

I know how your private sh** works and what happens in each one of them.

Why would you even bring this topic when you guys quit playing iRO, whatever be the reason, when this private server trend has going on for years and then there are so many private servers, opening and shutting down, some are there for a longterm, some are bad, some of which are poorly managed, some dont even have a working website, some of them dont even make it into the listing and in some that the server admin tricks players into giving donation and disappears along with the server and opens another server and repeats, leaving the GM team and players QQing, that move on to another private server. And then there are servers that open and dont even have population and they shut down, other servers shut down because admins/gms have found work or don't have time to manage a server. 

The proof of your private servers are right here in RMS. you can read about them, if you know where to find them. You see, you're using iRO as a scapegoat for covering up whatever s*** happens in your private servers.

If you dont like iRO, dont play, dont rant about it, you dont even have the right to.

And then thats why you're here in RMS.

So shut up and play your private servers.  Compete but not compare !!!


I guess it's pointless for me to argue with ignorant people that don't get the point.

[Playtester]

I wouldn't even mind the iRO rates.

Reason why I don't play on iRO:
1. It's full of bots.
2. It doesn't have a main chat channel (hard to actually find non-bot players).
3. Renewal (kind of, I could play on iRO classic, but that's even worse regarding #1 and #2)

[boxlunch]

LOL at these guys and at the original poster.

LOL I am not biased, I could say you are.

I know how your private sh** works and what happens in each one of them.

Why would you even bring this topic when you guys quit playing iRO, whatever be the reason, when this private server trend has going on for years and then there are so many private servers, opening and shutting down, some are there for a longterm, some are bad, some of which are poorly managed, some dont even have a working website, some of them dont even make it into the listing and in some that the server admin tricks players into giving donation and disappears along with the server and opens another server and repeats, leaving the GM team and players QQing, that move on to another private server. And then there are servers that open and dont even have population and they shut down, other servers shut down because admins/gms have found work or don't have time to manage a server. 

The proof of your private servers are right here in RMS. you can read about them, if you know where to find them. You see, you're using iRO as a scapegoat for covering up whatever s*** happens in your private servers.

If you dont like iRO, dont play, dont rant about it, you dont even have the right to.

And then thats why you're here in RMS.

So shut up and play your private servers.  Compete but not compare !!!


I guess it's pointless for me to argue with ignorant people that don't get the point.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. You are no longer worthy of my time, and may God have mercy on your soul.