I've never been in any of the guilds, and I've only just been in VisionRO. I went to Chronos and it shortly after died, so no idea where any of the guilds went. Help plox?
Edit:
Mostly wondering where the vRO guilds went to, but eh.
Heres a good list of em! and Video's!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78lC676q6Qw (BrawlRO) 200+ On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy-d48-ZSvA (AnimusRO) 400+ On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVImA1y3paA (AtlantisRO) 1200+ On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQxC0PyzX34 (ExtremeRO) ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKsICjecWL8 (RetRO) ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXUBE7vmEu0 (EpicRO) 200+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrRJFIshzg (AnsRO)
Most are international languages. Goodluck!
I was thinking more of where the guilds from VisionRO went. :<
I know for sure they didn't go to AnimusRO since it's a server with custom gears and a low rate, plus I'm already in it. /heh Plus most of the guilds
there are guilds that been in it for a year+ but with a diffrent name/leader.
Been wanting to try out AtlantisRO but it's a low rate and from what I've seen mostly spanish. (I forgot most of my spanish/never learned much)
Noticed CoT in AnsRO. o:
All the well known guilds that played at visionRO are dead.
CoT is on extremeRO
Yeah I heard that some guilds are transferring to ExtremeRO since that server's very BG active. I'm assuming WoE there is good, too.
Ah, oh well. Guess I'll be checking out ExRO then.
http://home.ex-ro.net/
Link to exRO.
this is excellent thanks for showing vids with recent woes.
i just saw 5 guilds coming over at the server which i started right now , neuro - names - inneundo , final strike , emphorim remaning 2 i dont remember the names but they all are international guilds :S .
Bigger guilds like WPE/QT/Nabz fell apart for the most part, or quit,
about 75-90% of the people from those guilds quit.
Some are in a few not-so-well known guilds.
extremero -> errors
The funny thing is the admin posted on my current guilds forums advertising it. We downloaded full client, same thing. Hilarious.
I dunno what's worse, brs or this:
Quote*waiting to see in which server's forums all these crybabies are complaining of crashes and DCs again*
coz its just gonna happen.
learn to fix ur own s*** people.
also funny how people keep naming other servers as "better" yet they first left those servers to join this one. so logical.
We are kinda waiting for a server to play on still~
Quote from: DeAmascus on Jul 07, 2011, 08:03 PM
Bigger guilds like WPE/QT/Nabz fell apart for the most part, or quit,
about 75-90% of the people from those guilds quit.
Some are in a few not-so-well known guilds.
fyi:
Nabz didn't play on visionRO. WPE is pretty much 75% Nabz members though. Also Nabz quit after eternityRO
FULLRO Woe Videos
http://youtu.be/UW08DD_QoC8 (http://youtu.be/UW08DD_QoC8)
http://youtu.be/OODl1_GkYyk (http://youtu.be/OODl1_GkYyk)
http://youtu.be/G65IX5Kscks (http://youtu.be/G65IX5Kscks)
http://youtu.be/H9OlAR5ge0I (http://youtu.be/H9OlAR5ge0I)
http://youtu.be/2P24cQ1wp4s (http://youtu.be/2P24cQ1wp4s)
http://youtu.be/1Gnl5OQ_Zhc (http://youtu.be/1Gnl5OQ_Zhc)
http://youtu.be/Z2AW-XYcIkQ (http://youtu.be/Z2AW-XYcIkQ)
Ex-RO isnt a good server anymore. ~20 players Online ^_^
Good list above but change "EpicRO" with "BlazeRO" - Guilds moved cause of more WoE and BG Activity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZvIdzkJjwU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZvIdzkJjwU#ws)
You all should go over to cookieRO forums and tell them you'd join the server if they wiped on July 27th for their "going out of beta" event. That server has such great mechanics and they actually did things that kRO didn't, balanced skills.
Quote from: tenku on Jul 18, 2011, 04:38 PM
You all should go over to cookieRO forums and tell them you'd join the server if they wiped on July 27th for their "going out of beta" event. That server has such great mechanics and they actually did things that kRO didn't, balanced skills.
I think you are advertising your server :P
Post on Serving Seeking ^^
There are already 8 guilds (all active) playing WOE in Full Ragnarok Online.
QuoteFullRO
Your server has 255/120 max level, 300 max stat and sells Fallen Bishop and other MVP cards for $20, I really doubt any of the guilds the topic starter is asking about would play there seriously :-X
Quote from: tenku on Jul 18, 2011, 04:38 PM
You all should go over to cookieRO forums and tell them you'd join the server if they wiped on July 27th for their "going out of beta" event. That server has such great mechanics and they actually did things that kRO didn't, balanced skills.
A low rate x15 exp with working 3rd job and a great amount of online players ? official opening date 27 July on this year ? No way... I'm joining this,The new adventure shall begin
its not official opening the server is on for 1 year and ppl abused ET cooldowns.. good luck with catching up
Quote from: wireless on Jul 21, 2011, 06:07 AM
Your server has 255/120 max level, 300 max stat and sells Fallen Bishop and other MVP cards for $20, I really doubt any of the guilds the topic starter is asking about would play there seriously :-X
This.
Also new question. Why do guilds leave a WoE server after like, a month or so of it being up?
Quote from: Buckyx on Jul 24, 2011, 04:13 AM
its not official opening the server is on for 1 year and ppl abused ET cooldowns.. good luck with catching up
But i heard they gonna wipe
have you read their forums? i was there few weeks ago and they still say from start there will be no wipe ever
Quote from: Judgement on Jul 24, 2011, 08:16 AM
This.
Also new question. Why do guilds leave a WoE server after like, a month or so of it being up?
Cause either the server sucks or they need a new challenge. If WoE is the only thing you do on a server, it gets boring pretty quickly =/
Quote from: wireless on Jul 21, 2011, 06:07 AM
Your server has 255/120 max level, 300 max stat and sells Fallen Bishop and other MVP cards for $20, I really doubt any of the guilds the topic starter is asking about would play there seriously :-X
LOL. Because you never played in this server, that's why you speak like that. Then why some of the veteran guild from well-known/old private servers make/build guilds in FullRO to play woe? Do you think that isn't serious? :)
I didn't recognise any of the guilds there. Maybe well known in pinoy high rates, don't know or care about those. But I'm sure the guilds this thread is about would never seriously play on server like that :-X
Quote from: wireless on Jul 26, 2011, 11:16 AM
I didn't recognise any of the guilds there. Maybe well known in pinoy high rates, don't know or care about those. But I'm sure the guilds this thread is about would never seriously play on server like that :-X
This is out of the topic, if you did not like in our server then don't play. I'm concern with the topic starter, not with you. Thank you.
Quote from: SnpGhost on Jul 26, 2011, 10:16 PM
This is out of the topic, if you did not like in our server then don't play. I'm concern with the topic starter, not with you. Thank you.
This isn't advertisement, SnpGhost, and comments like "Play FullRO" are not appropriate in this section.
Before pointing fingers at someone, who made a relevant "FullRO's guilds =\= OP's Guilds" comment, look at the Global Rules and compare it to your first response to this topic.
Quote from: SnpGhostThere are already 8 guilds (all active) playing WOE in Full Ragnarok Online. Try to play FullRO sir. Intense and Enjoy WOE, many guilds are participating everytime there's a WOE.
I already reported your indirect advertisement, but it appears to have been overlooked. OP is not asking for a server, he's asking where the guild split up after vRO. Your replies are irrelevant.
@OP
I think Cubano and AquaFresh was part of the vRO group, and I saw them at NeuRO. Not 100% sure.
Then I should edit my post right there. I am not advertising at all. Sorry for the words I chose. :)
This topic interests me because I would genuinely like to know where some good WoE action is.
I'm also happy to see my server in the first post of vids.... However I'm getting tired of WoEing against the same-old same-olds.
Hey Judgement, lordking5 here. Chorono guild.. miss those good old day. Last time, i remember we playing at low rate or mid rate server . But i stopped after my hotmail get hacked.... Btw, do u know where kriss and chibi playing currently? My hotmail get hacked, so i can't msn them.
wat
ChronosRO server, not guild. :c
ops..sorry for misunderstanding....
Quote from: Shiroe on Aug 05, 2011, 05:07 PM
However I'm getting tired of WoEing against the same-old same-olds.
You must be new to the WoE scene?
The same group of people have been GvGing each other for well over a year on a variety of famous WoE servers ex. VisionRO, chronosRO, and [insert spanish server name here]. Do your research on a "new guild" high chances are it's the same people from a different guild. New players do not just pop up in this game like they used a few years back.
I am going to go ahead and say that 95% of the people and guilds that WoE'd on such servers have quit within the past year. Mostly due to the following:
Unreliable Servers, and owners.
Lack in the advancement of the meta game in the woe scene. (Blame Gravity for this one) or people just lack imagination.
Lost interest due to ^.
Personally unreliable servers and guild members ruined it for me. Meta game is definitely lacking but the GvG's were still tolerable for 2 hours. At least they were on visionRO and ChronosRO3.
playing on a mid rate called blazeRO.
some ppl from those server playing there. Woe Se and active bgs, well its kinda funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rDXKRp0L1I#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rDXKRp0L1I#ws)
I dont thin that over 90% quit the game..many ppl joined smaller servers because ro is a game u cant quit that fast without returning
Quote from: Daikido on Aug 07, 2011, 08:49 PM
playing on a mid rate called blazeRO.
some ppl from those server playing there. Woe Se and active bgs, well its kinda funny
I dont thin that over 90% quit the game..many ppl joined smaller servers because ro is a game u cant quit that fast without returning
Looks nice, Average players online ?
Quote from: Daikido on Aug 07, 2011, 08:49 PM
I dont thin that over 90% quit the game..many ppl joined smaller servers because ro is a game u cant quit that fast without returning
That wasn't a general overall population assumption, and you didn't comprehend my entire post either.
I can at least confirm that no more than 15% of such guilds like JU, WPE, QT etc.. (all of which played on one or more of the servers i mentioned in my previous post) play this game anymore. Less than 5% of those said guilds core play. Now what i didn't include is bad guilds that no one cares about, and randoms that only played the servers for PvP, PvM(?), BG and tried to mess things up during woe cause they were too bad to get into a guild or just liked to troll .
None of the well known guild members moved to smaller servers i can confirm that as well cause i know where most of them are currently. Why would someone who wants competition like visionRO/chronos move to a server where there is no more than 3 guilds woeing?
QuoteWhy would someone who wants competition like visionRO/chronos move to a server where there is no more than 3 guilds woeing?
Because there are no Servers like vRo or cRO anymore so why should they not play on smaller servers just for fun.
QuoteLooks nice, Average players online ?
~180, growing. 4 Guilds are taking part in WoE at the moment.
Quote from: Daikido on Aug 12, 2011, 07:08 PM
Because there are no Servers with a woe population and competition like vRo or cRO anymore so why should they not play on smaller servers just for fun.
Fixed for you.
There has been dozens of cRO and visionRO clones in the past year so your statement is incredibly wrong.
Also There is about 2 servers out there that come pretty damn close population wise, but no where near close to the competition both those servers had. BrawlRO which was mentioned here already is probably the closest a WoE server has gotten to that in the past year.
Isn't blazero a dominate Spanish server?
No, there is a spanish Server(I think it is a high rate) with same name but i think its smaller^^
blazeRO is a dominate german Server but since it is international the internation part is growing a lot.
i have seen a couple like -[A]postle of Stars- guild people at eliteRO, leet-ro.net? just like -[A] Stars Apache- and others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kevoMnN3uA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kevoMnN3uA#ws)
So that's what woe's are like now?
Mhmm, with CTs arrival it got a bit more interesting, that was the best WoE to date and will probably look better soon.
Also planning on switching the castles soon to stop the sandwich fest lol.
[Nekro] Innuendo 9/10/11 Neu RO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6zDnkxXKfg#ws)
4 guilds of ~30 now.
mid rates blow :<
waiting for next hr server
TwinkleRO is the current standing pro server, as far as customizations go. It's fairly new, and I think only a couple big guilds have gone there. My guild hasn't decided if we're retired or not now lol. We've been sticking totally casual for like a year. :p
From the looks of things, NeuRO lost it's main WoE guilds, and Battle of Midgard is the next WoE server people are playing.
...
I need a WoE guild. ):
Someone told me that some are hating BoM[I didn't even tried it tbh so I don't know nothing there except the info I got] because of GMs are banning people using auto-pot and not others using nodelay and other s*** even if the battles are good. Is this true? I know that people were getting a lot of d/cs at BoM in the first woe but are gms there that bad there ._.?
I also saw that someone is trying to get destinaRO as a semi-woe with a "reboot" of the server since the admin is now back after many bad luck moments happen at his life :o
I'd like to, y'know, get my wierd build setup and items, be able to go BG whenever, and have time to perfect my pvp homun/mercenary AI without worrying about a server dying for at least a year.
but whats with all this server hopping? just when I think neu-ro is gonna be more stable than previous woe servs, and I decide to show up, people start leaving...
I'm not even sure what the reason is, and you can bet alot of other players arent either. they are just going with the flow.
what started this chain reaction?
Quote from: Thoth on Nov 06, 2011, 12:36 AM
I'd like to, y'know, get my wierd build setup and items, be able to go BG whenever, and have time to perfect my pvp homun/mercenary AI without worrying about a server dying for at least a year.
but whats with all this server hopping? just when I think neu-ro is gonna be more stable than previous woe servs, and I decide to show up, people start leaving...
I'm not even sure what the reason is, and you can bet alot of other players arent either. they are just going with the flow.
what started this chain reaction?
lolikr
Mostly stuff like GM activity suddenly stops after a few months, or GMs added some custom s*** that ends up screwing the server up (server crashes/errors/lag), or GMs suddenly having less interest to the WoE players. There's also players just getting bored of the action and wanting to go to the next promising WoE server.
Meh Idunno, haven't actually joined any of the WoE guilds from these servers.
WoE servers will never last over a year. Maybe if you had an admin that cared longer than 3 weeks after their server gets popular. More than not most WoE server admins are just in it for the quick cash.
Many things influence the leave of a WoE server actually. GM's, Competition, Stableness, etc..
Guilds will follow the competition so if a guild that is making WoE's interesting leaves it is more than likely 1-2 more guilds will follow them. Thus making the server dull. Waiting for more guilds to join isn't a possibility seeing as the population for this game is low especially for the woe community. New players are not joining this game fast enough to keep up anymore. 1 guild can go around and kill servers if they wanted to.
So, where's everyone playing now? >:
Battle of Midgard seems to be the next WoE server, but from what I've been reading lots of speedhack/lag n' s***. I went into one of their castles and lagged from just 1 guild. lol :'(
Where they're? At lol and hon ::) Actually I think I will even accept the invite of a friend and start to play hon with him when he's free lol
BoM gonna die soon cuz admin so terribad. Speedgear oop I pwn u kknpnp.
TwinkleRO is where I am atm, but I don't think the competition gonna be good, so I won't last long there (prolly)
WoE so 2010, 2011 is time to go kawaii with 3rd job. 2012 we go MvP with newkawaiiclasses (oboro/kagero <3<3).
Quote from: Triper on Nov 07, 2011, 07:37 PM
Where they're? At lol and hon ::) Actually I think I will even accept the invite of a friend and start to play hon with him when he's free lol
I know that alot of people from NATG, QT,WPE and even some GVGMODE/BEASTMODE members are playing League of Legends or DoTA. Never was a big fan of HoN or DoTA seeing as those games follow the RTS style too much. While League sorta has that RO feel imo. Especially the 5v5 premade matches. Reminds me of the old days when RWC was actually fun to play.
Anyways a lot of people are moving onto those games. Mostly cause you have to rely on way too much to have fun in WoE these days, and people are getting sick of it. While for League of Legends you can just log on and play anytime you want and have fun with it. No more of this 2 hours a weekend s***.
Quote from: leokimah on Nov 08, 2011, 02:08 AM
I know that alot of people from NATG, QT,WPE and even some GVGMODE/BEASTMODE members are playing League of Legends or DoTA. Never was a big fan of HoN or DoTA seeing as those games follow the RTS style too much. While League sorta has that RO feel imo. Especially the 5v5 premade matches. Reminds me of the old days when RWC was actually fun to play.
Anyways a lot of people are moving onto those games. Mostly cause you have to rely on way too much to have fun in WoE these days, and people are getting sick of it. While for League of Legends you can just log on and play anytime you want and have fun with it. No more of this 2 hours a weekend s***.
real men play dota2
afaik most players in WPE moved on to battlefield 3. Some play LoL, some play DotA2(only 3 ppl including myself though), some play WoW and some play dragon's nest. Guilds split up and I am 100% sure WPE won't ever play RO again.
as far as other guilds go, I believe gvgmode/beastmode plays a lot of LoL. Figures considering they're casual scrubs and have always been so.
Saw a few guilds on Twinkle RO...but the name of it is....and have you heard about the admin of it?
Also a lot have just left Neu RO, maybe follow where they go I guess. I told my friend who was playing there about a month ago that there's no point in me playing and that I'll just wait to see which server they move to next. He didn't believe me but yeah...
Can't find the homepage of battle of midarg, someone can help me out?
This one:
http://battleofmidgard.com/ (http://battleofmidgard.com/) ??
We were gonna go BoM but speedgear scrubs
Twinkle has s*** times.
as a server candidate I suggest ROtaku. at least 4SE guilds already there, very good features, decent population. most things on the site and recent server updates are translated into english from spanish.
http://rotaku.com/en/index.php?module=pages&action=content&path=home (http://rotaku.com/en/index.php?module=pages&action=content&path=home)
latest vid I could find
Inactive @Rotaku 13/11/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Wcrxze-Wg#)
--I 'm afraid to join BoM because it looks like other 3month servers I've seen die. nevermind the rumors of speedhacks and bad gms. although its pvm sucks, the woe population and ranking systems are impressive.
--talonro has a high population, but donating for mvp cards and kaho horns is a big turnoff for me.
--luminaro has failed us all many many times, and will continue to do so.
--that suspiciously new cavalero is splitting itself up from the start with a high rate and mid rate... not much to say yet either way.
if you guys got any other candidates to throw out there, do so, and give details.
yeah seriously.. what's with this advertisment of you thoth
I mean I get it you're advertising it, altho you've not even joined it yourself but wth?
Cavale is separated between trans and 3rd class. The rates are the same for both imo. But with rates like Neu, they won't be able to get so many players.
problem with rotaku is it focuses a lot on PvM (at least when I played it) and there's no easy get out way of leveling.
Quote from: Strudel on Nov 18, 2011, 05:28 PM
yeah seriously.. what's with this advertisment of you thoth
I mean I get it you're advertising it, altho you've not even joined it yourself but wth?
my guild was seriously considering rotaku but the woe times are a bit wrong for the internationals in the guild...
I'm tired of this 3month server jumping s***, with all these clone servers popping up and dying. I'd like to be able to get my wierd item combonations before the server dies, and actually be able to keep them. I feel I just can't trust these new servers to stay alive, neuro looked as promising as it gets but now..
neuro forums is suddenly open season to advertise every junk server imaginable...
I felt that rotaku was amazing in that it was still open after a year and still had so many SE guilds.
I mean
a year! thats f*** amazing these days!
maybe I'll just join talonro with its "donate for mvp card" and go noob poaching
Should've mentioned the it being up for a year part. That's actually pretty good now like how you said.
If you end up joining Talon, can I join you with the noob poaching? :c I joined tRO recently but I keep stopping because I hate starting again.
ROtaku is more of a 2008 type of WoE server where people didn't mind pvm. For todays standards i'd hardly call it a woe server at all. Not to mention the lack of competition. :(
Quote from: leokimah on Nov 19, 2011, 02:40 PM
Not to mention the lack of competition. :(
lol did you watch the woe vid from last weekend? maybe you were talking about english speaking competition @_@
oh I just got banned from neuro forum for server advertising, even though
neuro is already dead. sounds like someone didnt like the server possibilities I posted LOL
R.I.P WoE guilds. 90% are off to play another game. Only low-tier remains.
let's all play HoN, a friend finally made me in and I suck so much am so pro that I even died once at tutorial ;o
S>Pro fail skills at HoN
wth? How'd you die during the tutorial?
Because game was acting stupid and my QWER keys were working as alt+Q, Alt+W, alt+E, alt+R and I had no skills because of that neither could use H U_U I could just move and get raped and not rape enemy.
GAME WAS ON EXTREME HARD, I SWEAR!!
Well I'm trying to make my server as attractive as possible obviously consider in WoE, PvP and BG are the last stage of the game apart from getting the newest mvp cards and the best set, problems just the players, if there were more players we'd easily put more times, and the more suggestions in the forum we get for times the more we can choose from and put them, we just never seem to get suggestions that's the major problem, other one would be the name <_<
So in your honest opinion what does a WoE, BG, PvP server need to be able to compete and attract/drag in players?
I'm all ears.
Quote from: Strudel on Nov 20, 2011, 05:36 PM
problems just the players
actually its not. that is the attitude of failures. saying that just means you don't know what you should be doing
-inertia, reputation, timing, features on release are all huge. check what other servers have and try to do better. woe is the endgame- some are already there, some will eventually reach it, and some never get there. all add life to a server.
-time your release to coincide with a holiday season or the death of another server.
-the best woe times will have something for americas, oceania, and europe all at once. that would at least have an SE sometime in the morning of gmt+8 on the weekend. anyplace that woe is anytime between midnight and 7am will find the times unacceptable
-nt woe is dumb. baby woe makes alot more sense.
-pick a name that is unique enough to actually show up on a google search, and hasnt been used by some other random server.
actually, I'm compiling a nice big list of what the idea server should have or consider...
Actually there is a lot of WoE Guilds that have lots of cool people that help a lot to make a server better, most of them try always to get the server better and most of the time the prob is that some PVM KINGS that think having zenny like whores and hoes is better then having a fun server for everybody and start ruin a lot of cool aspects with their crap ideas and crap overprices of the good and easy stuff to get that drops in a low quantity like diabolus robe that is one each 11h or something.
If you want to make a server fun you've to give to everybody/make people learn about competition in every aspect - BG/PVP/WOE/MVP/PVM
People need to learn that playing isn't just being able to get a char with 190 aspd and lots of atk or to be able to heal for 5000. People need to improve and learn stuff when playing the game and that having a gear that works at 100% in PVM with no swap won't work at 100% at PVP/BG/WOE except vs scrubs
You need to make players smarter because being smarter means that people will be able to try other aspects of the game since they won't think anymore about - OMG IT'S PVP/BG/WOE D: I SUCK ME NO GOES DERE DOOD!! and then they will enjoy more other aspects of the game instead of being bored with the game.
People are smarter? Cool. They now understand a bit how the game works and will start to accept competition little by little and start to complain less about some nerd gameplay styles that look like hacks when is just being pro. This will also make no more needs about loosing lots of times asking stuff XYZ about what is better since they +/- know how the mechanics work and just can instead ask for advice for little details instead or just try things by themselves.
OMG less complains? Cool, less work for the GM team, more time to think about improving the server on their part.
The key word is new Challenges, new objectives, new ways to learn how mechanics of the game work without having to explore thousands of guides or ask lots of stuff about chars to people. Old players knows that after lots of time used on learning them, new people most of the time don't want to learn it so you've to make them learn it in another ways ;( I remember an old game where you were getting rewards while you would explore the game and learn new little details each time you would finish a quest. The quests weren't mandatory to finish but the rewards were cool and you would get cool stuff in the end and this wasn't made in the begin of the game but during the game little by little. Maybe doing the same system will help people to get something in their minds =P This will also step up newbie players to become better players and end in good players for good fights making people more addicted to the server and enjoying it more.
Take in mind that I'm not saying to give another novice grounds or a different one or even a more complete thing but an entire new thing worth to do with a party and/or solo.
Mini games that would give rewards based on some pvp-moves would be cool and make players smarter for example. Routines make people learn stuff fast but ofc this wouldn't be easy to do/implement ;(
Stopped reading after first paragraph and I already got tons I should throw here.
What ruined WoE servers, player side :
1. Too much asking everything to be provided with least effort. Put this on BG or w/e. Donates should be obtainable in game. Script this script that when they have no idea if their suggestions are feasible or not.
2. 1000 complains pop out even on the least failure. Especially those US players (yes, seriously). Ping above 100 = QQ b*tch for one week full. Imagine Asia people who mostly had 150 ping (at least).
3. When the server requires some PvM to gear up, there's always nolife who camped MvP for 24/7 and sell those for a crazy OP price (I don't need to mention what kind of people does this all time right)
4. Continuation of number 3, when server got donation ticket or w/e it's called, the OPing people asked for them all time for their MvP items. Moar broken economy yay.
tl;dr : PvM players clashes with WoE players, can't go along well
5. Lastly, 99% of the WoE server players forgot that the admins need money to run server. Yep all they think is server is run by paying goddam stones and leaves.
Staff side :
1. Can't handle them complains, causing the server improvement decreasing each day (from daily maintenance could become monthly maintenance).
2. Too much thinking on donation. Thinking PvM players could give off more money, they cater PvM players more than WoE players when they claimed their server as WoE-oriented.
3. They haven't got enough RO that they still confused about some suggestion. Makes WoE server, but demands years of grinding and stuff for weeks to gear up one character.
4. They think they're succeed enough = run with $$, open another under new name. They think they're not going to survive = close server w/o announcements, doesn't reflect why they failed.
Quite complete reason why WoE servers die fast and no one wants to open another by now.
Quote from: Kensei on Nov 21, 2011, 01:42 AM
Quite complete reason why WoE servers die fast and no one wants to open another by now.
oh, theres much more than that... heres just a few things that actually took down GOOD servers:
--a lack of staff, so that when the one nolifer super haxor GM disappears or suddenly get a life/girlfriend, everything goes to hell
--the GM couple who start the server ARE boyfriend // girlfriend, and breakup. that couldnt possibly happen right? at best when it does, they hate each other and neither wants to log server. at worst one of them ****s the server to get revenge on the other.
--some GM indulges in corruption, selling mvp cards and junk for $, summoning mvps for their guild, giving themselves god itams for woe, etc. spying on others and finding top tier mvps with gm powers is among the least offensive of this. keeping detailed logs (and checking them), and limiting powers helps prevent this. one should also be a careful judge of what type of person they hire, and what their motivations are for becoming GM.
--some GM starts censoring and banning people they don't like. there will also be people claiming they are banned for no reason. all bans should be logged in forum with evidence like screenshots to prevent this, and only server owner should have moderator powers in said forum.
-- theres also alot of people who complain about "carebearing" and want to be able to throw out vulgar offenses all the time- these guys really should be censored. if some is gonna troll, they should learn to do it without spamming four letter words. I should be able to play RO without seeing someguy with an offensive name talking about his **** all the time.
--someone DDOS server, hack it, take it down, etc. these are often timed whenever they think the GMs that could fix it have a real life and are on a plane trip or something, for maximum damage. take precautions, make backups. any downtime at all is bad, being down more than 2 days can be devastating.
--server implements alot of cool custom features, only to lose them when it updates, and simultaneously reintroducing bugs that they already fixed. I mean, seriously? keep track of your customs, edits, and fixes
--server implements harmony, doesnt configure it properly, causes wtf lag for everybody in bg/woe for more than 2 days
--server changes anything woe related at all and gm isnt online to make sure the woe actually works
--gms ban people who post woe vids that would advertise their server because they are using ahk
--gms try to ban people for using ahk at all. if you wanna limit ahk and romedic, there are serverside solutions like limiting item use rate
--gms ban speedhackers instead adding of adding serverside delays for the affected skills (arrow shower, ganbantein, sonic blow, etc...). instead of bucketing water out of the boat, how about blocking the leak?
--server packets are not encrypted, so any old smuck can auto-asurahide or instant switch to fire armor when firebolted
--server packets ARE encrypted, and server doesnt patch wpe related exploits because they think they are actually safe.
--server does something with vote points for stuff ingame that becomes horribly exploitable. PHP stuff...
--server is vulnerable to sql attacks
--server allows people to multiclient in battlegrounds. protection should be automated
--server fails to kick battlegrounds afkers. protection should be automated
--server has "blah blah weekly event thing" that isnt automated, so when gms are inactive...
--not enough gms to handle @request stuff
--gms change game mechanics, because one ingame faction wants and b**** about it
--making mvping and pvm too damn easy, with overly inexpensive bombs and mvps that still actually get hitlocked, among other things.
--server owner changes to "a better host" which isnt actually better, lags alot of players. then they change back, pissing everyone off. test this stuff ahead of time.
--server owner does a wipe because he wants people to buy more donation itams
--headgm f*** up, gets ultrahatespam from community, has emo breakdown and deletes server, blames hateful RO community, instead of rising to the occasion
-- theres any problem at all, and gms blame ro players instead of looking for a solution.
and alot more
@Thoth
you're right about that.
Adding more here:
What ruined WoE servers, player side :
-- players asking for more and more even if its really not necessary.
-- players not even caring how the staff/gm will feel about how they write a post about them when they can even write up a post without too much trolling. (really we all knew gm/staff should be more professional but talking to them in manners like doing personal attacks doesn't really help which makes them decide to be inactive and chill for a bit)
-- players not even really contributing and just complaining about lags and all when in reality its their computer/isp that really sucks.
-- players complaining without even explaining why and how it happened to him/her.
-- players whining about WOE time where in when they started everything is explained on the website and then calling each other guilds names and such if they do not agree with the woe time they wanted.
-- players complaining about Harmony when in fact they edited some stuff and asking GM's why they crash when the reality is they f*** their client data files.
-- players complaining about errors and s*** (*same as above*) when in reality they did not install their RO in the right place or even if they do they do not patch.
-- players who wanted to be everything eazy ( i know some should but not all )
-- players who just troll posts and spam the forums with non sense and off topic posts ruining the whole thread ( which makes the gm's not even want to read it )
-- players who just whine about how easy everything like adding this, scripting that, changing the source mode of this and that just because this other server got this and that ( every gm have their own preference about stuff )
-- players who sends a donation to a server and later on disputing it which later on will lead to bankruptcy of the server.
-- players who doesn't know how to use the search function
This video is from the server I joined recently, it's mainly french server but atleast it has some competition during WoEs, 4 guilds GvGing.
This is a video from 13/11/2011 WoE.
13.11.11 SoF.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhwy2ncgIw#ws)
Makes me wonder why you guys even play. That's a lot of good reasons not to. This game relies on too much dumb s*** to be enjoyable.
Anyways back to Strudels post.
Any server with the elimination PvM would attract a lot of veterans. Remember any type of pvm is a big turn off for people who have jumped about 50+ servers in the past 3 years. Maybe a system similar to visionROv2 but with less bugs and more thought put into it.
I know a gwRO type server hosted in the US would attract a lot of people, but the problem with that is those type of servers need to have some type of revenue to stay alive or else it would die in a month due to the admin not being able to pay the host.
AFAIK this worked for gwro due to the admin hosting other game servers like Counter Strike. Raking in enough money to pay both host easily. Not 100% sure about that though. This is what some Russian player told me.
Quote from: leokimah on Nov 21, 2011, 11:07 AM
Makes me wonder why you guys even play. That's a lot of good reasons not to. This game relies on too much dumb s*** to be enjoyable.
thats why we should make a list of stuff that should be done. maybe server owners will get a clue, y'know.
Ahhh I forgot to reply ><
Thanks for the input, some is really nice some I dunno how to work with o.O
PvM is a part of RO can't just take it out.
It'll always be there, unless you go to a SHR or HR, but if you join a mid rate like neu or metro or lumina you'll be stuck with leveling at least one or two days, and then grinding for your items.
metro's been up for over a year now with ups and downs but it's going to stay up and be stable
never played visionro.. neither v1 nor v2.
Quote from: Thoth on Nov 20, 2011, 10:15 PM
actually its not. that is the attitude of failures. saying that just means you don't know what you should be doing
Well sorry to inform you but I'm not a failure, I'm well respected (I hope) and work hard on what I do, and from what i can see my work bears fruits!
And I know what I should be doing and what I am doing. The problem is just as mentioned the amount of players, as soon as more join more stuff will be available to the entire community.
@leokimah
It's pretty much those players fault if they keep on jumping servers, they should find something they like and stick to it, and if it closes well that's their problem but they still need to do the basic work.
Can't level everybody up to 99/70.
Firstly because that'll be odd running around as a lvl 99/70 LK with a knife an cotton shifts, secondly it disturbs the balance of figuring out how to play, the whole pvm concept is to introduce players to the game, to experience new things by fighting different monsters and to gain experience points, to level up, you level up in two ways, firstly a game char second in knowledge of how to use your character, how to become better. Destroying that would destroy balance and we'd have lvl 99/70 newbies running around not knowing how to attack but standing in pvp because they clicked a npc they liked.. woohoo now QQ and log off to be never seen again.
players will always do stupid s***, and usually, like little fat kids, they will want ice cream when its bad for them.
if you always blame them they are just gonna stay fat. rather than waste energy blaming them, look within and consider what you can do.
take away the ice cream and feed them salad even when they b**** about it.
may you have a healthy server community~
Quote from: Nala on Nov 21, 2011, 08:23 AM
This video is from the server I joined recently, it's mainly french server but atleast it has some competition during WoEs, 4 guilds GvGing.
This is a video from 13/11/2011 WoE.
13.11.11 SoF.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhwy2ncgIw#ws)
3 SE guilds, cool vid, horrible music
these vids never seem to link to what server its from. big mistake really.
can you link us?
The server is Soul of Fur, you can read the server advertisement here:
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/soul-of-fur/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/soul-of-fur/)
Anyways, actually there are 4 guilds and there will be a fifth one soon. :3
that one guild really is pwning all the others.. with it seems to effort
Quote from: Strudel on Nov 21, 2011, 01:03 PM
@leokimah
It's pretty much those players fault if they keep on jumping servers, they should find something they like and stick to it, and if it closes well that's their problem but they still need to do the basic work.
Can't level everybody up to 99/70.
Firstly because that'll be odd running around as a lvl 99/70 LK with a knife an cotton shifts, secondly it disturbs the balance of figuring out how to play, the whole pvm concept is to introduce players to the game, to experience new things by fighting different monsters and to gain experience points, to level up, you level up in two ways, firstly a game char second in knowledge of how to use your character, how to become better. Destroying that would destroy balance and we'd have lvl 99/70 newbies running around not knowing how to attack but standing in pvp because they clicked a npc they liked.. woohoo now QQ and log off to be never seen again.
This post can't be serious.
What does PvM have to do with WoE? People aren't going to learn how to WoE from PvM please don't even use that as an argument. Killing monsters offers very little to the WoE scene (outside drops). PvP has been a massive run in and kill w/e with little effort for years now. Both do little to teach a new player to WoE. BG on the other hand is different since it's a mini WoE assuming your using the chronosRO mod.
Why would you even join a WoE server if your 100% new to the game? This is a WoE/Guild thread. Not where are the newbies playing thread. If your seriously thinking about making a
WoE server your priority isn't teaching newbies the basics of the game. Leave that to a low rate server.
Veterans are what is keeping WoE alive not newbies. New players aren't joining fast enough to even use that as a viable reason. Have you even seen the guild packs lately. I bet you think it's unfair?
It's the lack of basic knowledge (from an admin) that turns people away from newly opened servers. Good luck with your server though.
The only reason neuRO attracted WoE guilds was cause there was no other WoE servers around. I personally didn't play neu cause the competition was a joke till around the time CoT came into the scene, but it was too late for me to care. Last decent WoE server was BrawlRO.
That reminds me, Clive was a big paranoid who banned someone that uses AHK. In which players were spreading gossip that this guy with AHK could hack server (while actually they're just QQing on how they got owned so bad by this guy), and Clive without second thought banned this AHK guy.
We all know how common AHK or w/e program it is. No one wants to mash buttons until they broke their keyboard. Yet hey, in 2011 there are still people who are being paranoid about this.
One example of why Neu is a joke : Clive is a real nub in RO <:
What does PvM had to do with WoE? Of course PvM first to gear up before WoE, duh. But who wants to PvM in almost 10 years old game all over again? I'd rather try another game than PvM for weeks or more, seriously.
so I thought today... since I'm foruming so much, maybe I'll check BoM forums.
*sees a GM-Strife*
...is this the same guy that killed brawlro at the end of the summer?
to any of the old birds still reading this:
any of you have good champ POV vids from players of the old guilds? agg, WPE, CoT, BM, GVGMODE, w/e
link me some or if they have already been taken down, i know u guys have them saved. do me a favor and upload them haha :)
PS: this also serves to let the newer people know what woe was like in those days
NeuRO is down, Battle of Midgard is dieing?.
Probably best server around at the moment is Soul of Fur:
-no donations
-nice guild gpacks
-competition at woe(4 guilds, fifth joining)
-battleground 2.0
-high mid rate
-no harmony
23.11.2011 mbc woe soul of fur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5xoq7-k1s#ws)
[Sunlive] WoE SoF 23.11.2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V19rndlQw#)
Hostile SoF 23 11 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9KLlj9Uug#)
2nd server going to get some competition is CavaleRO. But i don't think it will last that long because of donation focus and harmony.
Quote from: Daikido on Nov 25, 2011, 12:32 PM
NeuRO is down, Battle of Midgard is dieing?.
Probably best server around at the moment is Soul of Fur:
engrish plz I no speaka franch T_T
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2nd server going to get some competition is CavaleRO. But i don't think it will last that long because of donation focus and harmony.
guns don't kill people, people kill people.
harmony doesnt kill servers. stupid harmony settings kills servers.
Rotaku is a close runner up.
Well I often enough advertised mine but nobody seems to give a damn, I mean I can't do anything else but say it's been up for over a year (1yr ~1month) we've had good and bad times along with neu came very bad times, but we've had low focus on donations and a strong focus on players with their suggestions like bg supplier, or joining after bg has started or.. being able to play bg conquest and such.
people should just invade gwro again? lol
with all items available free, can avoid silly things like pvm
not familiar with that name..
guild war ro.
looks likes its up with 0 players online T_T
wat.
It's up, has all gears available? What's wrong with it?
GWRO was best server ever...just remake it and choose a new name for it. A lot of guilds would come there.
Lol @ SoF, meh enough of that. And I see Sunlive @ SoF? Means it's going to be speedgear WoE again there.
I'd say CavaleRO, but again, the number of good WoE players are decreasing each day. So don't expect a good WoE like the past where there's no HoN or LoL and any other good games.
Quote from: Kensei on Nov 26, 2011, 06:08 AM
Sunlive @ SoF? Means it's going to be speedgear WoE again there.
BE AFRAID!! CHUCK NORRIS WITH A BOW IS ALIVE!!
I already lost track of the number of times that I've seen people complain about Sunlive lol
Quote from: Triper on Nov 26, 2011, 10:59 AM
I already lost track of the number of times that I've seen people complain about Sunlive lol
super serious question.
wouldnt a serverside delay on things like sonic blow, arrow shower, and kaite completely fix any issues with speedgear and speedhacks?
I think that not for speedgear but could work for speedhacks. Speedgear works making the pc work "ahead of time", like it was with a turbo so it would always work.
Quote from: Triper on Nov 27, 2011, 02:03 PM
I think that not for speedgear but could work for speedhacks. Speedgear works making the pc work "ahead of time", like it was with a turbo so it would always work.
umm the point is you make it serverside, so no matter what the player does to his own pc, it doesnt make a difference
But some skills don't have delay so speedgear can be used in that cases unless they limit the number of skill used per sec.
Quote from: Triper on Nov 28, 2011, 12:05 AM
But some skills don't have delay so speedgear can be used in that cases unless they limit the number of skill used per sec.
lol...
they don't have a delay, SO ADD ONE
you may want to try using 2011 clients with packet ver 26 to get delays. But I doubt if you can use rcx with it. 0_0
Quote from: ragnazorg on Nov 28, 2011, 09:48 AM
you may want to try using 2011 clients with packet ver 26 to get delays. But I doubt if you can use rcx with it. 0_0
are you trying to confuse people? lol
the normal delays a pretty obvious with a normal client, and listed on rms as well. they are only enforced in the client right now, big mistake.
the skills that need such a delay are arrow shower, ganbantein, kaupe, kaite, sonic blow, arrow vulcan...
there are bound to be others I do not know of or forgot
many people have run away from servers with cheaters who use speedhacks. but where can they run away to? harmony is inadequate- some kindof serverside measure is necessary. never mind the supposed lag caused by such speedhacks in an unplayable woe. clientside measures will never work for long.
the first server to have server enforced delays will have the woe community come running.
"So what server are all the WoE guilds at now?"
qq.
Soul of Fur for europe - X-RO for brs/america.
Not sure if this's been asked already or talked about but, what do you even consider a WoE server?
One where there's simply a lot of WoE competition with constant WoE, like every day or every 2nd day, or what? Guild packages?
What is it..?
Quote from: Strudel on Dec 24, 2011, 04:45 PM
Not sure if this's been asked already or talked about but, what do you even consider a WoE server?
One where there's simply a lot of WoE competition with constant WoE, like every day or every 2nd day, or what? Guild packages?
What is it..?
A WoE server to me includes:
- An active BG where consumables, cards and maybe even standard gear, usable everywhere, can be bought for badges.
- High rates. People looking for these kind of servers are usually people that can't spend tons of time leveling, grinding and/or hunting mats etc.
- Possibly an option of guild packages as you mentioned.
- No bs custom gear, stats and other items.
- The majority of these players also prefers that the server is 2-2 99/70 only.
Quote from: Daikido on Dec 24, 2011, 06:05 AM
Soul of Fur for europe - X-RO for brs/america.
Yes, but less challenging these days ::)
actually a woe server is an instant 99/70 server without pvm. You get consumeables and so on per npc.
And there are just the times for woe 2-4 times a week.
what lesty said is more a woe oriented server... there is too much pvm/bg to do to call them pure woe server.
i miss the active gwro x/
I havent WoE'd on a WoE server in a while. I think there should be a remake of vRO or maybe have like WoE tournament or somthing its gettin pretty ded these days in RO.
I saw some going NemainRO for the lulz WoE.
To be honest. I don't know where any of the WoE guilds went. I miss them all though! Haha
Anyone who was actually serious about the competition moved onto MOBA's (League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth and DotA). I don't ever see WoE making a comeback to attract people again.
yeah... always will miss WPE and GvG
I've always have this idea just pending here, that's why I wanted someone to implement it.
Basically, I'm thinking of a pure PvP/BG server without any PvM at all, to maintain the population is to make a server with a rental-system where you can gain every item you want just through using badges except that it expires in a week. I currently checked zephyrus' updates and discovered that he made an all new rotational bg every round to make things more exciting and non-boring, which is in my opinion would erase all the people's "I don't have no sh*t to doooo".
Anyways, it's a pretty long idea and wouldve liked it to be implemented by someone, just need a good coder and developer (no tech skills at all for me :( )
bring back extremeRO? >:
would love a pure BG/WoE server in which no s*** classes are around or no extensive PvM is required. all items as obtainable via BG lesgo <3
Ya, except it expires so you have to keep working every week for your items. Unless you donate or win events so you can get permanent ones.
I would love to bring back extremeRO but would want to take out the PvM side of that because let's face it, PvM is already becoming boring (+ lots of people always QQing about kill-steals and griefing). I'm just really looking for an administrator to implement it since those that I know in the past is already managing one or is really really busy (me too as well actually, that's why I'm not planning to have a staff position and would rather be a player as well).
PLUS, another upside I read in eAmod is this:
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Battleground Queue and Team Build Options New!!
Location: eAmod-A/Testing/Scripts/battleground
- An optional Battleground System, with only one BG running per time and rotation each time a Battleground ends.
- Easy to configure the minimum and maximum of players per each Battleground.
- Auto-rotation if the current Battleground don't start, this, each 2 minutes.
- No more Waiting Rooms required, only one registration NPC. Players can register and wait on any Town until Battleground start.
- New Register Party option.
- No Team selection required, only one Queue and 3 different options to build teams:
Lineal: Player joins teams as they joined the queue together. As a sample, if Queue is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, Teams will result in 1 2 3 4 and 5 6 7 8
Random: Players will be sorted randomly on Teams. As a sample, if Queue is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, Teams could result in 3 4 8 1 and 5 2 6 7
Balanced: Players will be sorted by Class, trying to keep teams balanced and distributing classes into each team.
Wow, zephyrus just keeps surprising me with his updates. This was always frowned upon at every WoE server how on one side they have two clowns and on the other they have none. He just solved the mysterryyyy.
Keep PvM only to get permanent gears. Drop rate should not be a problem unless you make it lower by custom which is dumb.
And that is quite a cute update, since I grow tired of BGing with tons of 1 vit champs, sinx (be it bolter or SB) or bolter profs (pretty much retarded players who doesn't know how to WoE) on my team. Hopefully if those can be implemented on a server it'll bring back WoE community active since from what I saw, WoE community is dying (no good WoE server and good players moving to DotA, LoL and shiz).
Didn't Pano have some sort of balancing system for BG like that in vRO? Or did it work diffrently?
I do, but add me on my MSN cause I talk with people there too.
[email protected]@Judgement
No not really as far as I know. He only had a number balancing but not job balancing.
Get Pano on dat visionRO v4 kthx
after reading the last few pages:
Quote from: Kensei on Dec 27, 2011, 11:36 PM
I saw some going NemainRO for the lulz WoE.
oop dat me :<
these admins are fairly decent for
today's standard (and I stress today's) which is cool but idk, too many pinoys on the server / "pvm retards" (as I've been known / banned to call them)
FE as we all know is what Pinoys love more than SE so, the server "competition" revolves around their FE wars (in which HWs stack SG and Champs are running 145+ DEX builds w/ ILC, Robo Eye and WCP [lol])
I went into SE with a guild I formed in about a week and these pinoy guilds got absolutely dominate, so they temp merged and were still dominated mostly because frontlining DLP, 50% champ rosters, their only clown trying to slow grace instead of flashing songs (flashing songs to them is keeping up bragi) etc. *no I am not proud of any of this but here's me playing sinx for the first time cuz for trollz and lolz
Cubano - NemainRO FE (Emp Breaking Teaser Vid) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sByF-od9v1c#ws)
You can clearly see how bad
I am at sinx these pinoys are.
The WoE times are a joke atm but they're willing to change them.
That's the bad, the good side is, these GMs are really willing to listen to input for the WoE community, there's a lot of kawaii hats for those people that like their hats.
Not much good but w/e, a server with half decent GMs is better than most atm, if any low-tier guilds want to show up and help the server expand that's coo I guess, meanwhile I'll still be searching for a nice "2k12 top-tier" WoE server to play on whilst I have some lols on this server.
N> guild for xRO :<
make a server without pvm.
Use eAmod and make everything buyable for badges.
but not like 1month active bg for a 3dex enchant.
you need a system which makes bg fun and useful for the players.
Also make a guild cap of max 36/guild.
^Yuh, exactly what I'm thinking. But something more fun, and at least to keep BG a bit active all the time without it expiring like in VisionRO v2(where BG died after a while cause everyone has complete equips and no use for it). I'm pretty lazy to farm and PvM anymore so I made this really cool idea about what a long-lasting WoE server is..
@Cubano, unfortunately I have in no ways contacting Pano and I don't think he'll be in for a ride, although the staff right now I'm coordinating with looks enough and ready.
Anyways, I'll just update you guys on MSN if you guys want to know all about it. :) As of now it's still a work in progress.
Additionally, if anyone wants to help (we need another coder/scripter so the work can be halved and the server could be done faster) then please do message me down at MSN.
@ Cuban :
I wouldn't call Nemain as a WoE server. The fact that GM SHOULD listen to suggestion is a MUST. No one likes blockhead staffs that don't bother listening to players and think they know everything. Community, 90% pinoys who doesn't even know how to WoE properly (as you mentioned) and only collecting stuffs so they think they can get laid on the internet.
And it's pretty funny how I got forum banned there. Before, I saw some people reported a GM for abusing mute/jail too much even though it's not her job to do those to players. I read the reports, then went to sleep, after that report cleaned. What? It's like some GMs do really like to keep their name clean by doing this kind of dirty action. (Sup Nissa <3)
GM Activity, for a server which community is still growing, of course they will always be active and listen. When it stops growing, you will see how they really are. But it's not bad for Geitz and Lassander, they're active for the job. The others, pfft extras.
tl;dr : Nemain is still pretty much worse (community and WoE point-of-view) than the server I'm in (which I can consider it's fail-tier already).
@ Fetus :
I log on MSN once a year Q_Q PM me here if I'm offline on MSN thou.
Quote from: Daikido on Jan 09, 2012, 04:55 PM
make a server without pvm.
Use eAmod and make everything buyable for badges.
but not like 1month active bg for a 3dex enchant.
you need a system which makes bg fun and useful for the players.
Also make a guild cap of max 36/guild.
Also think of a way to keep server running. Make somehow donation is tempting (not like $40 for an item). Server doesn't run for free ya kno ;)
Pretty much got enough seeing good servers died because everyone think servers ran by paying stones and leaves.
We've thought of a fancy way for donations not to interfere with anything. Maybe pumpkinRO-like (Those increased badges when BGing) + aesthetic-like donations as well as something that some prickly people would probably donate for (liek private guild towns etc.)
It's not a WoE server, I know this I'm just mentioning another server that could become a NeuRO v3 but better, these GMs are better than Clive (though that's not much of an accomplishment they are really good compared to 90% of the other servers I've played on so far).
Clive listened to pretty much all of the suggestions on the server (90% being mine) and ofc the server flourished and peaked at like what, 300-500 during WoE hours w/ 3-5 guilds in SE of about 40 members each? That's pretty good for a mid-rate server, imo but Clive is a retarded monkey and didn't realize had he continued with his server he could've gotten even more money than what he ran off with (oopdeloop).
Yes, as you've mentioned most GMs listen for the beginnings of the server and then just go AWOL (point in case Clive) but I feel these admins (Lass / Geitz) are a little more dedicated than that.
Pinoys will be pinoys but after 1.5 hours of SE, they finally realized that casting / stacking meteors > "stacking" storm gust (lol'd hard). I'd really like some other low-tier guilds to show up just to get s*** started cuz let's face it, most high-rate WoE servers last 3-4 months at most and then everyone migrates to a new server. Right now some guild called "Well Played" has shown up in Nemain and they're at least better than the pinoys from what I saw on YouTube.
Rei while your ban may have been unfair and I can see that, AWESOME MODE is a douchebag. He's an old guild member of mine and he thinks that because he got carried in ROSS (playing a Paladin which his devo targets were usually the first to die) he's hot s*** now, and ROSS wasn't even that amazing, we got pretty decent to the end of NeuRO / beginning of BoM but yeah we all can name 1236578146 guilds from 2008 and prior that are better.
Anyways I'm getting off-topic, while we'd all like for GMs to be robots with no emotions / feelings etc. this is 2012 and that technology isn't readily available atm. GMs are people, they have lifes outside of RO and s*** happens. Nissa was working on her own little project of her hat maker and trying to get all the materials needed for the 12356478127364 hats that are in that NPC to make a guide for it and in comes AWESOME MODE being rather rude tbh. Idr exactly what he said but his first mistake was asking Nissa his question which I'm pretty sure she didn't know the answer to, he should've just waited for Geitz or Lassander to get online (and they are online every day at some point during the day usually for rather extended periods of time).
Maybe Nissa was just in a bad mood and found AWESOME MODE's manner rude and annoying and just wanted him to go away, doesn't really matter, she is a GM that is AFK half the time but she's actually really nice (to people that don't bash her, the ones that do usually are just ignored).
TL;DR: Nemain isn't a bad place to try if you have a lower-tier guild and are looking for something similar / better than NeuRO but aren't ready to play on spanish/european servers like SoF/xRO.
I'll remain playing there for the lols and try to help them improve the server like I did with Neu and see if anything happens, the server should last at least 6 months which is pretty nice and the gpack is good as well.
I found a guild on xRO and I'll probably be WoEing but only for WoE.
cookies and milk.
inb4 AWESOME MODE comes / already is in this thread and starts bashing me and calling me "RO Royalty" lmao.
Quote from: Cubano on Jan 10, 2012, 09:15 AM
It's not a WoE server, I know this I'm just mentioning another server that could become a NeuRO v3 but better, these GMs are better than Clive (though that's not much of an accomplishment they are really good compared to 90% of the other servers I've played on so far).
Clive listened to pretty much all of the suggestions on the server (90% being mine) and ofc the server flourished and peaked at like what, 300-500 during WoE hours w/ 3-5 guilds in SE of about 40 members each? That's pretty good for a mid-rate server, imo but Clive is a retarded monkey and didn't realize had he continued with his server he could've gotten even more money than what he ran off with (oopdeloop).
Yes, as you've mentioned most GMs listen for the beginnings of the server and then just go AWOL (point in case Clive) but I feel these admins (Lass / Geitz) are a little more dedicated than that.
Pinoys will be pinoys but after 1.5 hours of SE, they finally realized that casting / stacking meteors > "stacking" storm gust (lol'd hard). I'd really like some other low-tier guilds to show up just to get s*** started cuz let's face it, most high-rate WoE servers last 3-4 months at most and then everyone migrates to a new server. Right now some guild called "Well Played" has shown up in Nemain and they're at least better than the pinoys from what I saw on YouTube.
Rei while your ban may have been unfair and I can see that, AWESOME MODE is a douchebag. He's an old guild member of mine and he thinks that because he got carried in ROSS (playing a Paladin which his devo targets were usually the first to die) he's hot s*** now, and ROSS wasn't even that amazing, we got pretty decent to the end of NeuRO / beginning of BoM but yeah we all can name 1236578146 guilds from 2008 and prior that are better.
Anyways I'm getting off-topic, while we'd all like for GMs to be robots with no emotions / feelings etc. this is 2012 and that technology isn't readily available atm. GMs are people, they have lifes outside of RO and s*** happens. Nissa was working on her own little project of her hat maker and trying to get all the materials needed for the 12356478127364 hats that are in that NPC to make a guide for it and in comes AWESOME MODE being rather rude tbh. Idr exactly what he said but his first mistake was asking Nissa his question which I'm pretty sure she didn't know the answer to, he should've just waited for Geitz or Lassander to get online (and they are online every day at some point during the day usually for rather extended periods of time).
Maybe Nissa was just in a bad mood and found AWESOME MODE's manner rude and annoying and just wanted him to go away, doesn't really matter, she is a GM that is AFK half the time but she's actually really nice (to people that don't bash her, the ones that do usually are just ignored).
TL;DR: Nemain isn't a bad place to try if you have a lower-tier guild and are looking for something similar / better than NeuRO but aren't ready to play on spanish/european servers like SoF/xRO.
I'll remain playing there for the lols and try to help them improve the server like I did with Neu and see if anything happens, the server should last at least 6 months which is pretty nice and the gpack is good as well.
I found a guild on xRO and I'll probably be WoEing but only for WoE.
cookies and milk.
inb4 AWESOME MODE comes / already is in this thread and starts bashing me and calling me "RO Royalty" lmao.
do you have to level up?
I thought awesomemode quit after BoM for LoL. I lost his contact when switching over to a new MSN. >:
Quote from: Cubano on Jan 10, 2012, 09:15 AM
TL;DR: Nemain isn't a bad place to try if you have a lower-tier guild and are looking for something similar / better than NeuRO but aren't ready to play on spanish/european servers like SoF/xRO.
I'll remain playing there for the lols and try to help them improve the server like I did with Neu and see if anything happens, the server should last at least 6 months which is pretty nice and the gpack is good as well.
I found a guild on xRO and I'll probably be WoEing but only for WoE.
cookies and milk.
Cuban y u expose me QQ
Oh well, too bad. Nemain got potential (as Lass and Geitz are decent staffs), but sadly the community made the potential go wasted by turning it to another kawaii pvm server. Not to mention GMs are still naive and carebear, which won't fit 101 community ;>
Cleaned up topics from general chit-chat, those are way off topic. The topic of discussion, as the title suggested, is
"So what server are all the WoE guilds at now?" many of the new server anticipation posts and contacting posts shouldn't even be in here. Go to pm or msn.
Edit: How many times a reminder should be posted? Speculation on newly opened server does not fit to be mentioned, they haven't open who know what's in them.
Some posts below are merged into http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-discussion/trashro-or-cavalero/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-discussion/trashro-or-cavalero/)
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Dat background music /oni_light