My latest reviews for RuthlessRO.

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DragonHero

RoDreamer aka *Laureen* which is both a man and a woman playing the same char... was a player on my server that supposedly seemed like they wanted to help my server grow in population.. well at first anyway.

There was a few things wrong with my server. so i fixed them as they reported it in my pm here in the forums.

The warper i made is the ultimate healing warper. I made dun00 as dungeon 01 in my warper in any maps that had a dun00.
So i explaineed to them that it was according to the first dungeon that i had named them as dungeon 01.

The mvps were just warping to the wrong place. i fixed it the next day because i had gone on a date only on one day.

Well after i fixed it.. She supposedly said she didnt know about the custom races when it is both in my server advertisement with the level requirements and in my server info on my geocities website. Also the npc in the game tells you additional info when your at those level requirements.

They had already reborned.. and were at level 200 or so which isnt very hard to get to. i stated to them that since they were an alchemist they would have an easier time gathering the required zeny to get the job.

They insisted that i de-level them. i said no because if i do you a favor i would have to do the same to another player.

They stated that they would make a walktrough for the Race quests. I said ok i dont mind it even though i already said the level requirements in the server ad in the rms forums and how to get to the new rebirth npc.

They started insisting i give them gm powers for testing purposes. i told them no because i already tested all of the npc. i had also told them again everything they needed to know.

They insisted again that i gave them gm powers so i said no again then logged off.. And they gave my server a bad review just because i wouldnt help them cheat or give them gm powers.
Come and play RuthlessRO! Its my new server! And i am trying to make it fun! To find my server just click the link under the image below!



http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=4347&url_sname=RuthlessRO

Cerebus

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThe warper i made is the ultimate healing warper.

You always seem to mention this in every single post of yours.  Would you like a medal for editing a script and adding in warps and skills?

Also, why is this in server discussion?  The entire post just seems to be an advertisement with some sort of "x player thought y was wrong" and then you go into a little detail about that thing.  You could have posted this in server reports, but even then, if you got a bad review, theres a thing called Reply to review, where you can put your side of the matter.


DragonHero

it is not a advertisement its a more in depth reply to my latest server review by RoDreamer which is laureen on my server.

This is a full explanation on why this person gave my server a bad review.

I wasnt gonna help anyone cheat even if they were also helping my server grow. i treat my friends the same way when they play my server. And they also admire that.
Come and play RuthlessRO! Its my new server! And i am trying to make it fun! To find my server just click the link under the image below!



http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=4347&url_sname=RuthlessRO

Descent

Quote from: Cerebus on Dec 23, 2008, 10:14 PM
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThe warper i made is the ultimate healing warper.

You always seem to mention this in every single post of yours.  Would you like a medal for editing a script and adding in warps and skills?

Also, why is this in server discussion?  The entire post just seems to be an advertisement with some sort of "x player thought y was wrong" and then you go into a little detail about that thing.  You could have posted this in server reports, but even then, if you got a bad review, theres a thing called Reply to review, where you can put your side of the matter.

Agreed. Also, where's the review you're replying to? Is there a thread or was this on your RMS server listing?

And please, stop plugging your script. I've made scripts that number in the hundreds in the last year, don't see me plugging every single one.

DragonHero

#4
The person made the review based on my ultimate healing warper because they didnt want to write the true reason

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=4347&itv=6&url_sname=RuthlessRO&page_num=1

And if you type @rates in my server it tells you the server rates.

The funny thing is even after this bad review the person still plays on my server... LOL!
Come and play RuthlessRO! Its my new server! And i am trying to make it fun! To find my server just click the link under the image below!



http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=4347&url_sname=RuthlessRO

RODreamer

#5
I did not post anything on the forums as I didn't think it would be such a big deal and continue on doing what I can to help your server, Mr. DragonHero. But since you have resorted to this action, I might as well state my side of the story.

As the information stated by Mr. DragonHero in another thread wherein he is looking for assistance to run his server,
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 04, 2008, 05:04 AM
i need mature people to help run my server.. yes... but i am currently adding a adults only area and a members only area to my server to help keep the balance and keep the kids from seeing porn... i just created a npc that changes costumes of players and will add naked sprites to that npc in the adult area.... and when you log off the naked costume disappears. i am also trying to get a hold of customs that are both naked and not naked... some for members only some for adults only. i made a warper for the adult area that warps to members areas and adults areas and the warper in the members towns warps to members only.

I see this as a potential server which can be for all audiences young and old. Where adults are to go to a specified map for any of their "conversations" to avoid mistaking a child as an adult in normal maps. Of course, there are ways to go around the system but I didn't think as far yet as I merely wanted to assist RuthlessRO as it was still quite young and in need of basic adjustments such as some stated below (server started at 3/25/08). That is why I still played at your server, Mr. DragonHero.

Now, to get my point through as much as possible without any misunderstanding as compared to our in-game conversations where you barely understand what I tell you on which I accept as a statement where you have probably missed, I'll reply to your statement one by one.

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThe warper i made is the ultimate healing warper. I made dun00 as dungeon 01 in my warper in any maps that had a dun00.
So i explaineed to them that it was according to the first dungeon that i had named them as dungeon 01.

The mvps were just warping to the wrong place. i fixed it the next day because i had gone on a date only on one day.
I have nothing against your "ultimate healing warper" as it can be easily scripted as stated by Descent.

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMWell after i fixed it.. She supposedly said she didnt know about the custom races when it is both in my server advertisement with the level requirements and in my server info on my geocities website. Also the npc in the game tells you additional info when your at those level requirements.

RuthlessRO RMS Forum
Yes, it is on your server advertisement and Geocities website. Coincidentially, your server advertisement was also last edited at the same date of when I posted my review? That is oddly questionable, is it not? Unfortunately, there is no time stated when my review was posted. But you cannot deny the fact that it could have been before you edited your server advertisement and website. There is nothing stated in your server description either with regards to your 6 custom races and how to get them.

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThey had already reborned.. and were at level 200 or so which isnt very hard to get to. i stated to them that since they were an alchemist they would have an easier time gathering the required zeny to get the job.

They insisted that i de-level them. i said no because if i do you a favor i would have to do the same to another player.
I was already at level 250+ when I requested to be deleveled. But it is not my character that I had a hard time leveling. It was the homunculus. Do you know how time consuming it is to follow the rule of not doing anything except watch your homunculus level? Zeny is not a problem at all considering the rates. But I requested the delevel not only because of my homunculus.

If you would look closely at the def and mdef of my character, I do not believe that is the traditional amount wherein there would be absolutely no difference if you had a cloth or a +10 Legion Plate Armor. I have requested several times that it be fixed. But it was merely ignored. And due to his custom race, we are actually required to have a race, else it would be a major disadvantage on our behalf if we do not.

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThey stated that they would make a walktrough for the Race quests. I said ok i dont mind it even though i already said the level requirements in the server ad in the rms forums and how to get to the new rebirth npc.

They started insisting i give them gm powers for testing purposes. i told them no because i already tested all of the npc. i had also told them again everything they needed to know.

They insisted again that i gave them gm powers so i said no again then logged off.. And they gave my server a bad review just because i wouldnt help them cheat or give them gm powers.
As I stated before, at the time I requested, the information is missing therefore I suggested to make a walkthrough. If the information was already there, why would there be a need to write a walkthrough?

As for the GM powers, I requested to have a seperate GM account for the walkthrough and solely for that purpose - no personal gains involved. I did not ask to have GM powers on my account. If writing a proper and accurate guide for the future community is cheating, then I no longer know what is right from wrong. What edge do I get from writing that guide that others would not? Items? Exp? The only thing I can get is knowledge that anyone and everyone else can get if they visit your geocities site like I do. How is that corruption, as you persistently stated against me in-game?

And with regards to the logging, it was you who logged first. Thinking that you were frustrated at me, I logged as well to cool off.

Since you stated that I gave you a bad review just because you didn't help me cheat, here's a few more points to add to my arguement.
QuoteFew players atm. Needs more work overall. NPC warping to wrong places. Rate not at set 3k all the time. Server and NPC needs fixing. Lack of server info. More testing, checking and server information required. Lacking customs/server uniqueness detail.
1. Few players atm is true since usually, there aren't more than 3 people online. And in fact, it's usually just me, you, and someone who comes to check the server and leaves. Else, the population is 0. I have been playing for a week and besides you, I only met 1 of your friends who decided to help out since you're such good friends.
2. NPC warper. Nothing against that. Merely stating what I experienced after requesting it to be fixed.
3. Rate not at set 3k all the time. Here's a few screenies.



Even without a calculator, I don't think you'll need more than 1 poring at a 3k/3k rate at level 7. I created 2 more characters just to test that perhaps there was something wrong on my behalf, but I guess not. Typing @rates could tell you that a server can have 1/1/1 or 1m/1m rates. But the experience I got is a definite mismatch. I'm no professional when it comes to RO scripting, but I believe even that is just easy scripting.
4. Lack of server info. More testing, checking and server information required. Lacking customs/server uniqueness detail.
- All explained above. And in addition to your @email, it does not work. When I tried deleting my character to make a new one, [email protected] was the default email, but even if you use @email and enter a new email, it still won't work.

If you want more points, I'd be glad to continue. But as of the moment, I believe these will make do.

As to you Mr. DragonHero,
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 10:26 PM
The person made the review based on my ultimate healing warper because they didnt want to write the true reason

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=4347&itv=6&url_sname=RuthlessRO&page_num=1

And if you type @rates in my server it tells you the server rates.

The funny thing is even after this bad review the person still plays on my server... LOL!
There is my full explaination/true reason of why I made such a review. I didn't want to totally ruin your server or bring shame to your ability to understand the matter at hand, but since you asked for it, there. I hope you are happy and content. There is nothing better than the truth, you say? Very well.

I respected you as a person and as a GM that is why I kept playing on your server. Unlike some people, I am not as shallow as to write a bad review just because I don't get what I want. I wrote the review to serve as a way of reaching to you as my request that certain errors, such as some stated above, be fixed are repeatedly ignored. You seemingly miss my PMs in-game with regards to the needed fixing as well and continue on conversing with me as if I wrote nothing.

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMRoDreamer aka *Laureen* which is both a man and a woman playing the same char... was a player on my server that supposedly seemed like they wanted to help my server grow in population.. well at first anyway.
Although I resent that statement since I really intended to help you and as well that...
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 10:26 PMthe person still plays on my server... LOL!
Tsk tsk. If you still do not understand..

You are too short sighted if you think that I wrote the bad review because I wanted to cheat. What edge do I get compared to the other players? Oh wait, there's no point in cheating on a server that barely has any players in it. (And usually, I just play alone to see if there's anything else that might need fixing.)

I had good intentions towards you and your server, Mr. DragonHero. Yet you made a mockery out of my good will. Therefore, I might as well inform you that you have rejected a potentially dedicated player from your server. I will not hold a grudge against you as I am willing to accept that it is merely a misunderstanding on your behalf.

Good day to you and I hope that you will learn that regardless of whether you are a GM or a player, you must be humble towards others. Especially if you do not know what they are capable of. And a life lesson for you, "Think before you act."

Lastly, as said in our debate society,
"If you would like to make a big fuss, please have a sound arguement before you begin. Don't waste time."

Thank you for taking the time to read my arguements and I hope that my long speech did not provide inconvenience on your behalf.
And Mr. DragonHero, I hope you don't repeat the same mistake again. Good day!  :D
~RODreamer

Descent

Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 10:26 PM
The funny thing is even after this bad review the person still plays on my server... LOL!

It RODreamer is really the ONLY player you have, I think your snide comeback is a BAD idea, DragonHero. :X

Keep acting like that and pretty soon nobody will be playing your server.

RODreamer

Quote from: Descent on Dec 24, 2008, 07:47 AM
It RODreamer is really the ONLY player you have, I think your snide comeback is a BAD idea, DragonHero. :X

Keep acting like that and pretty soon nobody will be playing your server.

If you want to be technical, no. :D His friend/s(?) play too. But on the duration that I have been online (7am-12am everyday since classes are out), I only met 1, and only once.. After I logged, I never saw her again.  :'( I thought I finally saw another player I can play with.

Ah well, I haven't started advertising and won't be anymore since I have been so wrongly accused.

Cerebus

It's a shame that you went through all that.  *pat pat*

QuoteThe funny thing is even after this bad review the person still plays on my server... LOL!

I would be happy if my server was an <5 populous to still have players who care about the server regardless of their review. :3

Head Monocle of DOOM

Ok after shaving away everything I didn't care to comment on because it would likely start a flame war.

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 04:04 AM
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThe warper i made is the ultimate healing warper. I made dun00 as dungeon 01 in my warper in any maps that had a dun00.
So i explaineed to them that it was according to the first dungeon that i had named them as dungeon 01.

The mvps were just warping to the wrong place. i fixed it the next day because i had gone on a date only on one day.
I have nothing against your "ultimate healing warper" as it can be easily scripted as stated by Descent.
I do agree with you on this one because I have found several scripts for that looking at the eAthena scripting forums.

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 04:04 AM
Quote from: DragonHero on Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PMThey stated that they would make a walktrough for the Race quests. I said ok i dont mind it even though i already said the level requirements in the server ad in the rms forums and how to get to the new rebirth npc.

They started insisting i give them gm powers for testing purposes. i told them no because i already tested all of the npc. i had also told them again everything they needed to know.

They insisted again that i gave them gm powers so i said no again then logged off.. And they gave my server a bad review just because i wouldnt help them cheat or give them gm powers.
As I stated before, at the time I requested, the information is missing therefore I suggested to make a walkthrough. If the information was already there, why would there be a need to write a walkthrough?

As for the GM powers, I requested to have a seperate GM account for the walkthrough and solely for that purpose - no personal gains involved. I did not ask to have GM powers on my account. If writing a proper and accurate guide for the future community is cheating, then I no longer know what is right from wrong. What edge do I get from writing that guide that others would not? Items? Exp? The only thing I can get is knowledge that anyone and everyone else can get if they visit your geocities site like I do. How is that corruption, as you persistently stated against me in-game?

And with regards to the logging, it was you who logged first. Thinking that you were frustrated at me, I logged as well to cool off.
Do you understand how rude it is to ask for GM Powers just to make a walkthrough. You don't need one I've seen god knows how many walkthroughs that dont requure them. And considering this most likely happened after the other thing where you guys started to argue the Admin probably didn't have much respect for you and thus there was zero chance of you getting a GM position.

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 04:04 AM
Since you stated that I gave you a bad review just because you didn't help me cheat, here's a few more points to add to my arguement.
QuoteFew players atm. Needs more work overall. NPC warping to wrong places. Rate not at set 3k all the time. Server and NPC needs fixing. Lack of server info. More testing, checking and server information required. Lacking customs/server uniqueness detail.
3. Rate not at set 3k all the time. Here's a few screenies.
Spoiler


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Even without a calculator, I don't think you'll need more than 1 poring at a 3k/3k rate at level 7. I created 2 more characters just to test that perhaps there was something wrong on my behalf, but I guess not. Typing @rates could tell you that a server can have 1/1/1 or 1m/1m rates. But the experience I got is a definite mismatch. I'm no professional when it comes to RO scripting, but I believe even that is just easy scripting.
If I may there is a program that limits how many levelups you can get at the same time on some servers. It may be in effect on this one.
Proof or it didn't happen.
All server reviews are based on a reviewers experience.
This is how negative server reviews work.
Eddy, carrots are good for your eyes, can it dial a phone.

RODreamer

#10
Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
Do you understand how rude it is to ask for GM Powers just to make a walkthrough. You don't need one I've seen god knows how many walkthroughs that dont requure them. And considering this most likely happened after the other thing where you guys started to argue the Admin probably didn't have much respect for you and thus there was zero chance of you getting a GM position.
First off, we did not argue. My assumption of the GM being frustrated was merely my own thoughts. But there is no assurance that he indeed was mad at me.

2nd, have you considered the difficulty of the walkthroughs? A million walkthroughs which tells you how to make a smiley mask, custom headgear and the like is easy. But a fully detailed guide on how to acquire his race including when and why is not so easy. As he stated in a conversation we had earlier in-game, a large amount of zeny is required to change to his race. Considering that the droprate is affected by luk, what chance do you think a low level character has in getting good items? Even with 100 luk, it's not an assurance of 100% droprate.

In addition, the server scripter probably has made a mistake assuming that 3000 is 3000x when it is only 30. I have seen an RO server script before and if it hasn't changed, isn't it supposed to be 300 000 for 3000x exp?

Now, please do try writing that guide yourself at a rate of 30/30 wherein you'll have to be at 115/70 just to test it. And I do hope you make a merchant since you'll be needing a lot of money with the few items you'll be getting, HMoD.

And if you haven't been paying attention, although there might not be any difference to you, for me, getting GM powers on my own account is a big deal compared to getting a seperate GM account which will only be used for a specific purpose such as writing a guide for his server's uniqueness - his races.

Have you even thought about what benefits giving information about his race can do to his server's advertisement? If people saw what's different on his server compared to others, they may be opt for a try on his server due to a custom script that noone else has. Would you rather play on a 1/1/1 server with absolutely nothing than what you already have - no custom headgears, spriting, or scripting? It's an indirect way of advertisement!

Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
If I may there is a program that limits how many levelups you can get at the same time on some servers. It may be in effect on this one.
There's a difference between leveling only once and not leveling at all. If you'd kindly look before assuming your statement, a poring only gave est. 19% while 2 fabres gave est. 20% each at level 7 totalling of 59%. That's not even enough for a level. So how does your program limit the amount of levels you can get for each kill when you can't even level up? Or does the server have a program on how much exp you get as well? Like cutting down 3k to 30 just because you're supposed to get 1 level per kill as a novice?

Head Monocle of DOOM

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 08:20 PM
Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
Do you understand how rude it is to ask for GM Powers just to make a walkthrough. You don't need one I've seen god knows how many walkthroughs that dont requure them. And considering this most likely happened after the other thing where you guys started to argue the Admin probably didn't have much respect for you and thus there was zero chance of you getting a GM position.
First off, we did not argue. My assumption of the GM being frustrated was merely my own thoughts. But there is no assurance that he indeed was mad at me.

2nd, have you considered the difficulty of the walkthroughs? A million walkthroughs which tells you how to make a smiley mask and the like is easy. But a fully detailed guide on how to acquire his race including when and why is not so easy. As he stated in a conversation we had earlier, a large amount of zeny is required to change jobs. Considering that the droprate is affected by luk, what chance do you think a low level character has in getting good items? Even with 100 luk, it's not an assurance of 100% droprate.

In addition, the server scripter probably has made a mistake assuming that 3000 is 3000x when it is only 30. I have seen an RO server script before and if it hasn't changed, isn't it supposed to be 300 000 for 3000x exp?

Now, please do try writing that guide yourself at a rate of 30/30 wherein you'll have to be at 115/70 just to test it. And I do hope you make a merchant since you'll be needing a lot of money with the few items you'll be getting, HMoD.

Even if he weren't mad at you it's still rude to just ask for GM powers. You could apply to be a GM or something it's much more civil. You dont have to do the quest while you make a walkthough for it you can take screenshots of NPC's locations and list out what they need and still make a detailed walkthough. Though yes you are right 300000 is 3000x experience.

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 08:20 PM
Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
If I may there is a program that limits how many levelups you can get at the same time on some servers. It may be in effect on this one.
There's a difference between leveling only once and not leveling at all. If you'd kindly look before assuming your statement, a poring only gave est. 19% while 2 fabres gave est. 20% at level 7 totalling of 59%. That's not even enough for a level. So how does your program limit the amount of levels you can get for each kill?
In that case it would be that the experience rates are screwed up though if the server has @showexp or something similar you should use that to see what the experience they give off actually is.

Now as to that program it's actually just a script that sets to where say you gain 2000000 exp for a kill it at level 1, which is, of course, impossible unless it's a custom monster but for the sake of the example, instead of shooting up to the level where you would have that much experience (level 4x I believe) you would only go up the limited number of levels. For instance in LegendRO you can only get 1 level up at a time even if you killed something and it said you got 600% experience.
Proof or it didn't happen.
All server reviews are based on a reviewers experience.
This is how negative server reviews work.
Eddy, carrots are good for your eyes, can it dial a phone.

RODreamer

Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 08:58 PM
Even if he weren't mad at you it's still rude to just ask for GM powers. You could apply to be a GM or something it's much more civil. You dont have to do the quest while you make a walkthough for it you can take screenshots of NPC's locations and list out what they need and still make a detailed walkthough.
If that was the case, then there wouldn't be a need to meet the requirements prior to doing the quests. The situation is that, you will only be given the information to what you are to do if you are already at the level of 115/70. Else, the only information you get is something like, "Please be at the level requirement of 115/70 before proceeding." - lack of information. You won't be able to prepare like most guides where the items/zeny/pre-requisites are known.

What I'm trying to say is that, the NPC only states that you have to be at level 115/70 before you can choose a job. And I don't have the time to level to 115/70 at a 30/30 rate. Unfortunately, although I had the patience to wait for the exp be fixed, this thread came up and that was a strike against me.

Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Dec 24, 2008, 08:58 PM
In that case it would be that the experience rates are screwed up though if the server has @showexp or something similar you should use that to see what the experience they give off actually is.

Now as to that program it's actually just a script that sets to where say you gain 2000000 exp for a kill it at level 1, which is, of course, impossible unless it's a custom monster but for the sake of the example, instead of shooting up to the level where you would have that much experience (level 4x I believe) you would only go up the limited number of levels. For instance in LegendRO you can only get 1 level up at a time even if you killed something and it said you got 600% experience.

Quote from: RODreamer on Dec 24, 2008, 04:04 AMTyping @rates could tell you that a server can have 1/1/1 or 1m/1m rates. But the experience I got is a definite mismatch. I'm no professional when it comes to RO scripting, but I believe even that is just easy scripting.
I know about the "Max 1 level per exp attained." program. And I requested a @showexp command as well but it wasn't included in the commands. I have requested certain basic commands for convenience but were either ignored or simply not implemented. The admin must be too focused on giving specific items/commands for donates. Thank you for making me see that possibility.

In truth, I should no longer be replying to this thread as I have proven my point. Yet the author who started this thread won't give a reply of his accusations. I no longer find the need to defend myself therefore, I will as best try not to monitor this thread anymore.

Thank you for all your help in providing justice to RMS. I do hope that the right actions be taken on this thread, server, or the RMS member who started all this. My patience have grown thin especially the recent occurences in my life. Thank you once again and I hope you all have a good day!

Descent

Back and forth, back and forth, another tl;dr thread.

RODreamer

Quote from: Descent on Dec 25, 2008, 01:23 AM
Back and forth, back and forth, another tl;dr thread.

You want it to the point?

He's wrong. I'm right.

That simple enough?