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Title: Pumpkin RO
Post by: tomosuke on Nov 08, 2010, 07:00 PM
I can't help but hate the fact that I play on this server, but the server isn't reminiscent of any WoE server I or any of my other guild-mates have played on.

A WoE server, stated over too many times actually implies certain things to people who have competed at very high levels.
It would mean that getting geared for WoE and WoEing itself is easy because the people who are attracted to WoE servers are those who stay on RO to simply WoE. PvM now is a joke and poses nothing but a chore to us. Grinding is something most of the people in these guilds have done, on even lower rate servers. The WoE server simply tries to minimize the grind and maximize the WoE. I don't see this happening here.

QuoteBG always stagnates on any server. There's just certain tricks we can use to make it seem interesting for a week or two at a time.
BG doesn't stagnate on servers I've seen. It isn't a chore there, it's actually fun and we BG cause we enjoy it. Think about Team Deathmatch, I've enjoyed playing classes I never liked to play in BG. In their server, it's the original classic BG, and oh how we hate this so. Because it's a lolbreak fest where people build aspd characters to break the crystal. There's no impetus to GVG, there's just impetus to rambo. I've seen it before and honestly, normal BG modes are not nice.

But let's look at consumables and badges. Each grueling round of BG gives you... 5 badges... if you win. The problem there is that the GMs and some of the players, who I assume haven't actually WoEd on a good server (Just an inference mind you.), think that if you want anything change from whatever it is now, you are lazy. Yes, they're that bigoted. They always think they're right, and we can never get a voice in because the GMs are just as bigoted as the "productive" players. If you thought the exchange rate was bad, getting consumables here is a joke. 20 per badge. Now, this would mean you'd have to endure BG here for a long time to get all your gears. For 1 WoE, that will take a while. And, the server has WoE 5 times a week. Now the logic here is, if you play our server all the time, you should be able to get mats for all the woes of the week. Even if you attend a few, the amount of materials you consume more often than not isn't enough.

QuoteHaving buffs on the NPC isn't needed. If/while you're still ingame let me know where you're from so I can check your connection. You should be no means be lagging with our current server specs and connection speed.
The buffer here will only buff you until you're level 90. Now, the problem here is quite simple. Why? When you want to get back to the castle, will you have to have a dual cliented priest just to buff you? In fact, if you have a priest you can dual client, why not have buffs? It saves your computer resources for something that an acolyte can do. Is there a particular harm a buffer will give that an acolyte will not? I don't think so. Especially in WoE, we GvG, we can't simply ask them for buffs and they will simply alt tab to buff us. It's not that easy, and honestly I find no logic in that.This isn't iRO.

QuoteAs for WOE incentives, I've posted multiple times asking for what would motivate players to WOE, but I'm not adding Valk/SM/ifrit/ect. gear.
Getting people to WoE is simple, make it a lot more convenient for them to WoE. Getting even mid-tier WoE guilds to come is easy as well. Offer them an actual incentive to join your server. Since obviously the competition there is mediocre at best. Guilds like Element, Domination and possibly some cute guilds led by members of high-tier woe guilds are interested in servers right now, but your server isn't standing out. Make WoE Cards drop at a higher rate to encourage new blood to actually join WoE. You're probably making a killer off your headgears, why not get actual competition and make more of a killing?

GMs: They're horrible. I'm sorry, but I must say that they are quite horrible. One GM in fact thinks that as long as you have potions, you're an unstoppable tanking machine... Yeah, that bad I know. These are also the GMs who want to have the best overall experience. Honestly I find that's complete s***. I find the GMs quite s***, I'm surprised I even gave them a high score. These people assert themselves as knowing WoE better. Unless they can back that cridential, I feel them interfering most likely hinders the thought process and prevents even mere compromises from being reached.

Competition: s***. IntenseRO baddies came to this server thinking that they're all that. Honestly, they're all bad. The server competition is bad and there's no actual people who knows how to WoE. I count two guilds max, and only one that actually defended choke points. I feel it's safe to say no one's gonna WoE here for competition.

This maybe quite ranty, but I feel it's a valid review. I elaborated all my points and hopefully the GMs who read this understand where I'm coming from and actually change the server even a little. If I insulted people, know that I'm doing this out of genuine concern for my guildmates.

To end, I'll show you (Old Spice Style) what WoEs your server could have.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MbdA3Quco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jxo-7FWbQ

My rating was 57/100. It could go lower, be glad I'm a nice person.

Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Aurora™ on Nov 08, 2010, 07:30 PM
First of all, I'd like to point out that I am a newly appointed staff member, and am actually offended by this post which questions the staffs ability and knowledge. I know for a fact that I, myself, have agreed with certain ideas pertaining to WoE, and some of them are even being worked on at the very moment.

Quote from: tomosuke on Nov 08, 2010, 07:00 PM
I can't help but hate the fact that I play on this server, but the server isn't reminiscent of any WoE server I or any of my other guild-mates have played on.

A WoE server, stated over too many times actually implies certain things to people who have competed at very high levels.
It would mean that getting geared for WoE and WoEing itself is easy because the people who are attracted to WoE servers are those who stay on RO to simply WoE. PvM now is a joke and poses nothing but a chore to us. Grinding is something most of the people in these guilds have done, on even lower rate servers. The WoE server simply tries to minimize the grind and maximize the WoE. I don't see this happening here.

First of all, I'd just like to point this out, because apparently this belligerent argument is never going to end. Never, ever, have either of the administrators said or advertised that this server is purely built for WoE. If you look at their advertisements, they are actually written to make it very clear that WoE is not the main priority, while it is a priority, of the server. It's open for everyone; those who enjoy PvM, socializing, WoEing, PvPing and just collecting. Don't believe me? Check out the advertisement, as I'm sure you have. The slogan is "WoE-oriented server", but while that is true, the one administrator that has been active has been doing his all to accommodate while the other has been absent for a vacation.

While I can agree that the grind is supposed to be a bit easier, it's not meant to be given to you. Challenge is still supposed to be available.


QuoteBG always stagnates on any server. There's just certain tricks we can use to make it seem interesting for a week or two at a time.
BG doesn't stagnate on servers I've seen. It isn't a chore there, it's actually fun and we BG cause we enjoy it. Think about Team Deathmatch, I've enjoyed playing classes I never liked to play in BG. In their server, it's the original classic BG, and oh how we hate this so. Because it's a lolbreak fest where people build aspd characters to break the crystal. There's no impetus to GVG, there's just impetus to rambo. I've seen it before and honestly, normal BG modes are not nice.

But let's look at consumables and badges. Each grueling round of BG gives you... 5 badges... if you win. The problem there is that the GMs and some of the players, who I assume haven't actually WoEd on a good server (Just an inference mind you.), think that if you want anything change from whatever it is now, you are lazy. Yes, they're that bigoted. They always think they're right, and we can never get a voice in because the GMs are just as bigoted as the "productive" players. If you thought the exchange rate was bad, getting consumables here is a joke. 20 per badge. Now, this would mean you'd have to endure BG here for a long time to get all your gears. For 1 WoE, that will take a while. And, the server has WoE 5 times a week. Now the logic here is, if you play our server all the time, you should be able to get mats for all the woes of the week. Even if you attend a few, the amount of materials you consume more often than not isn't enough.

I honestly have nothing to say to this, because I, myself, as a "bigoted" GM, have agreed to the increase of either badges or consumables per badge. :\

QuoteHaving buffs on the NPC isn't needed. If/while you're still ingame let me know where you're from so I can check your connection. You should be no means be lagging with our current server specs and connection speed.
The buffer here will only buff you until you're level 90. Now, the problem here is quite simple. Why? When you want to get back to the castle, will you have to have a dual cliented priest just to buff you? In fact, if you have a priest you can dual client, why not have buffs? It saves your computer resources for something that an acolyte can do. Is there a particular harm a buffer will give that an acolyte will not? I don't think so. Especially in WoE, we GvG, we can't simply ask them for buffs and they will simply alt tab to buff us. It's not that easy, and honestly I find no logic in that.This isn't iRO.

I've already offered my argument on this topic via the pRO forums, and to be honest, I'm going to admit that I don't feel like fighting it again. While buffers aren't harmful outside of WoE, priests are there for a reason inside of WoE.

QuoteAs for WOE incentives, I've posted multiple times asking for what would motivate players to WOE, but I'm not adding Valk/SM/ifrit/ect. gear.
Getting people to WoE is simple, make it a lot more convenient for them to WoE. Getting even mid-tier WoE guilds to come is easy as well. Offer them an actual incentive to join your server. Since obviously the competition there is mediocre at best. Guilds like Element, Domination and possibly some cute guilds led by members of high-tier woe guilds are interested in servers right now, but your server isn't standing out. Make WoE Cards drop at a higher rate to encourage new blood to actually join WoE. You're probably making a killer off your headgears, why not get actual competition and make more of a killing?

To an extent, I agree with this. This, again, is being discussed, and why this is an issue at this moment in time, I'm not sure, CONSIDERING, as I just said, it's in the process of being discussed. Not everyone, including the players, since apparently you're out to get the entire staff that you clearly don't know every single opinion of, agrees wth increased drop rates. If those who have already received their gear could deal with it without complaining, why would it be higher for those are making a fuss over it because it's "too hard", "too frusterating", or a "grind fest"? Again, challenge is supposed to be there.

GMs: They're horrible. I'm sorry, but I must say that they are quite horrible. One GM in fact thinks that as long as you have potions, you're an unstoppable tanking machine... Yeah, that bad I know. These are also the GMs who want to have the best overall experience. Honestly I find that's complete s***. I find the GMs quite s***, I'm surprised I even gave them a high score. These people assert themselves as knowing WoE better. Unless they can back that cridential, I feel them interfering most likely hinders the thought process and prevents even mere compromises from being reached.

Really, this is what got my attention to this thread. Being a part of that staff, I find this statement to be quite resentful considering I, myself, take time to actually think about a suggestion before responding to it, or even allow others to talk it out, and get a feel for everyone's opinions. Some I agree with, some I disagree with, and as both a player and a staff member, I'm open to express that opinion. Welcome to the internet.

Competition: s***. IntenseRO baddies came to this server thinking that they're all that. Honestly, they're all bad. The server competition is bad and there's no actual people who knows how to WoE. I count two guilds max, and only one that actually defended choke points. I feel it's safe to say no one's gonna WoE here for competition.

This maybe quite ranty, but I feel it's a valid review. I elaborated all my points and hopefully the GMs who read this understand where I'm coming from and actually change the server even a little. If I insulted people, know that I'm doing this out of genuine concern for my guildmates.

To end, I'll show you (Old Spice Style) what WoEs your server could have.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MbdA3Quco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jxo-7FWbQ

My rating was 57/100. It could go lower, be glad I'm a nice person.



As you've said, I DO understand where you're coming from, as my brother has also shared similar opinions with this review. However, though it isn't open to the public, the one administrator who is currently dealing with all of this is trying his hardest. It's quite a large workload until Nipah comes back.

I'm not trying to be rude with this response to the review, so please don't take it as that, but I do find it highly offensive and arrogant as far as assuming that the entire staff are completely incompetent, and in ways, I do feel some of the accusations presented here are a bit unfair. :\
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: tomosuke on Nov 08, 2010, 07:45 PM
QuoteFirst of all, I'd just like to point this out, because apparently this belligerent argument is never going to end. Never, ever, have either of the administrators said or advertised that this server is purely built for WoE. If you look at their advertisements, they are actually written to make it very clear that WoE is not the main priority, while it is a priority, of the server. It's open for everyone; those who enjoy PvM, socializing, WoEing, PvPing and just collecting. Don't believe me? Check out the advertisement, as I'm sure you have. The slogan is "WoE-oriented server", but while that is true, the one administrator that has been active has been doing his all to accommodate while the other has been absent for a vacation.

While I can agree that the grind is supposed to be a bit easier, it's not meant to be given to you. Challenge is still supposed to be available.
I feel that looking on the forums then staring at the title says enough. It passes itself as something oriented to WoE. Which means primary  priority would be WoE. I feel a clearer stance here would be appreciated.

Quote
I honestly have nothing to say to this, because I, myself, as a "bigoted" GM, have agreed to the increase of either badges or consumables per badge. :\
I appreciate this at the very list. I'm sorry but other GMs probably aren't as understanding. Or sane... However, i believe that it's my opinion to say this, though I do know where you're coming from.

QuoteI've already offered my argument on this topic via the pRO forums, and to be honest, I'm going to admit that I don't feel like fighting it again. While buffers aren't harmful outside of WoE, priests are there for a reason inside of WoE.
I do agree that priests are needed in WoE. In fact, I main a priest in another guild. However I feel that a buffer outside of WoE. Not one in WoE where you can click it any time to get rebuffed. (This is what I'm getting) Since as much as we want to, we can't always stay with our guild and that dying, without buffs, makes it harder for us to get back. I'm simply asking for a harm presented.

QuoteTo an extent, I agree with this. This, again, is being discussed, and why this is an issue at this moment in time, I'm not sure, CONSIDERING, as I just said, it's in the process of being discussed. Not everyone, including the players, since apparently you're out to get the entire staff that you clearly don't know every single opinion of, agrees wth increased drop rates. If those who have already received their gear could deal with it without complaining, why would it be higher for those are making a fuss over it because it's "too hard", "too frusterating", or a "grind fest"? Again, challenge is supposed to be there.
I believe challenges should still be there. But I believe that challenges should be there for optimum WoE gear. We're not asking for a lot, probably Wool+Tidal+Basic Armor With Cards+Maybe Accessories. As much as it seems imbalanced, it's probably the most bare minimum of WoE guilds. Getting better equipment here I feel should be the challenge not getting equipment in general.

QuoteReally, this is what got my attention to this thread. Being a part of that staff, I find this statement to be quite resentful considering I, myself, take time to actually think about a suggestion before responding to it, or even allow others to talk it out, and get a feel for everyone's opinions. Some I agree with, some I disagree with, and as both a player and a staff member, I'm open to express that opinion. Welcome to the internet.
I feel this was mostly targeted at one "particular" GM. I'm sure you know him, who's arguments are quite far fetched and someone insane and quite unreasonable. If you felt hurt, I'm sorry, but I generalized and that's the general feeling I got. I mean no intentional harm, I'm just getting what I see.

I'm finding you more reasonable, however certain issues really need to be fleshed out. I feel that compromises can still be made. But I feel players should stop arguing it being a WoE Server and people being lazy as arguments. Know that I do change my mind over time and that my opinions are not set in stone. If Nipah is on vacation, I'll review the server again when he/she comes back and see how the server develops from there.

I believe you understand why some accusations are unfair, because mainly, I get a general feeling that you don't know where you're coming from. Please prove me wrong and elaborate further why it's like this and present harms and benefits and possibly show your side better. Though I feel more consideration on WoE must be given in order for us to have better WoEs.
Thank you for reading this. Hope you consider my opinions on the server.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Rei on Nov 08, 2010, 07:54 PM
Quote from: Aurora™ on Nov 08, 2010, 07:30 PM

First of all, I'd just like to point this out, because apparently this belligerent argument is never going to end. Never, ever, have either of the administrators said or advertised that this server is purely built for WoE. If you look at their advertisements, they are actually written to make it very clear that WoE is not the main priority, while it is a priority, of the server. It's open for everyone; those who enjoy PvM, socializing, WoEing, PvPing and just collecting. Don't believe me? Check out the advertisement, as I'm sure you have. The slogan is "WoE-oriented server", but while that is true, the one administrator that has been active has been doing his all to accommodate while the other has been absent for a vacation.

While I can agree that the grind is supposed to be a bit easier, it's not meant to be given to you. Challenge is still supposed to be available.

It's actually stated a bunch of times that the server is WoE oriented.  First, check out the RMS page:

(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo268/Psycho_Genosaurer/PumpkinRO.png)

It claims that it's WoE based and PvP  based.

Then you have this advertisement, I assume on the forums here, that states it's WoE oriented.

Also, the PumpkinRO website reads: "pumpkinRO is the place to be for hardcore WoE,PvP,MvP and Hat collecting. We have it all, included in a nice scary touch. We are currently reworking the website. Enjoy!"

It's probably in other spots too.  That's three places it states that it's WoE based.  While you're true that it also says it's not only a WoE server, you have to admit that the idea given off to potential players is that a high focus should be on WoE.  WoE might not be the whole idea of the server, but you can't deny that it is expected by the player base to be a huge part of it.  When you advertise it, players naturally expect it- why shouldn't they? 

The problem then arises that it's apparently not a WoE based server.  Ragnarok draws a lot of people who play for WoE, and there aren't many good WoE servers out there.  When a new one comes out that claims in multiple places that it's going to be geared towards intense fights in WoE, the community of WoEers have something in their mind that they expect from it.  PumpkinRO is not providing this to the extent that the seasoned WoE players anticipated, and it's going to stir up more of an uproar as time goes on.

The problem is that this is yet another server that probably bit off way more than it could chew.  It received a high population the first few weeks of its release, and the staff doesn't seem to have followed through with all of their promises completely.  I'm not saying the intentions weren't there and that they weren't good intentions at that, but when you have such a high influx of players right off the bat and you advertise something the staff really cannot control (as WoE really depends on the players rather than the staff), you are going to be looking at a lot of upset.  Players expect what's advertised to be either there, or there within a decent amount of time.  If you don't appease them sooner than later, they're not going to have the patience to stick around on a server that isn't offering them what they want.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: xLeviathan on Nov 09, 2010, 01:51 AM
QuoteAs you've said, I DO understand where you're coming from, as my brother has also shared similar opinions with this review. However, though it isn't open to the public, the one administrator who is currently dealing with all of this is trying his hardest. It's quite a large workload until Nipah comes back.
I don't understand why they opened a server and then a week or so later, have an Admin go off on vacation. Both Admins should've known the hard work to come especially after opening. Since they probably knew that one of them would be gone, they then should not be using that as an excuse and should have been prepared for the work load.

Also, having seen several advertisements of PumpkinRO prior to it becoming open to the public, it did seem like WoE was one of their main priorities. Most servers have WoE, but having the server be "based" on it put an emphasis on that feature. Anyways, it is not the reviewer's or the player's fault for assuming so - it is more of how the advertiser created that notion.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: adhelle on Nov 09, 2010, 08:05 AM
Sorry to get into someone else's server issues, but although I agree with aurora, calling all the staff incompetent for administrative issues is not cool. The only problem here is pumpkin owners stating they are a hardcore pvp/bg/woe server everywhere and at the same time the server does not have any features to justify that for what I hear.

If they just admitted they are yet another server instead of trying to impress everyone with such comments and started working on getting WoE/PvP/BG better with features that will benefit and only then advertise what they think they have, none of this would be happening. Because that only gives 2 impressions about pumpkin: Either the admins are false people trying to impress players with fake comments, or they dont know what "WoE/PvP/BG" means. Either way, it does make the server sound bad and I can understand where this review is coming from.

Aurora, being a server like this "It's open for everyone; those who enjoy PvM, socializing, WoEing, PvPing and just collecting." means it's just a normal RO server. And no, the ads don't make it clear. When I read, as a person from outside that did not play pumpkin, it does look like it is a woe/bg/pvp server.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Nomi on Nov 10, 2010, 03:10 AM
Quote from: xLeviathan on Nov 09, 2010, 01:51 AM
QuoteAs you've said, I DO understand where you're coming from, as my brother has also shared similar opinions with this review. However, though it isn't open to the public, the one administrator who is currently dealing with all of this is trying his hardest. It's quite a large workload until Nipah comes back.
I don't understand why they opened a server and then a week or so later, have an Admin go off on vacation. Both Admins should've known the hard work to come especially after opening. Since they probably knew that one of them would be gone, they then should not be using that as an excuse and should have been prepared for the work load.

Just because something in real life calls for him/her at the time does not automatically make him/her a bad person. No matter what position you're in, real life always takes priority over a game. If this admin is coming back or is back, then I see no reason for people to get mad at a situation that will resolve itself down the road. o-o
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: xLeviathan on Nov 10, 2010, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Nomi on Nov 10, 2010, 03:10 AM
Quote from: xLeviathan on Nov 09, 2010, 01:51 AM
QuoteAs you've said, I DO understand where you're coming from, as my brother has also shared similar opinions with this review. However, though it isn't open to the public, the one administrator who is currently dealing with all of this is trying his hardest. It's quite a large workload until Nipah comes back.
I don't understand why they opened a server and then a week or so later, have an Admin go off on vacation. Both Admins should've known the hard work to come especially after opening. Since they probably knew that one of them would be gone, they then should not be using that as an excuse and should have been prepared for the work load.

Just because something in real life calls for him/her at the time does not automatically make him/her a bad person. No matter what position you're in, real life always takes priority over a game. If this admin is coming back or is back, then I see no reason for people to get mad at a situation that will resolve itself down the road. o-o
My comment is just an observation. I also never said that the he/she is a bad person o.o; I do not even know the the admin personally xD; However, my observation was merely just me voicing my opinion on how odd it is to open a server under those circumstance. Please note as well, that I am not mad at them either - I don't even play PumpkinRO lol. Anyways, the Admins seem capable enough so, as you noted, I'm sure the "situation" will be resolved down the road.

(On a side note: Pardon on my message in the quote above. Perhaps I should have been expanded more or stated clearly that it is just an observation. Maybe that would've resulted in a less defensive response from other users? lol)
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Malice In Wonderland on Nov 10, 2010, 01:36 PM
Nipah unfortunately couldn't delay the trip any longer as he was going with his parents to Spain. He will be back on Sunday and I've already sent him a list of items we need to take care of.

As our advertisement says "WOE" server, you will notice the steps I've taken to help accommodate those people.  We also have our GM staff, which was delayed quite a while due to frequent attacks, so Nipah and I can start focusing on working on the server as a whole again and not being shackled to the help desk. Our projects got pushed back by a full 7-10 days of constant harassment but now that the situation is solved, I can guarantee you the server will start to get what we promised within a week or so.

Admittingly, it looks like we did bite off more than we could chew from a non-staff perspective. We apologize for it but we also hope you can understand the importance of being with your family and heightening security.

Keep an eye open and stick with us a while longer, the server's about to get hit with a whirlwind of activity.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Nomi on Nov 14, 2010, 01:54 AM
Quote from: xLeviathan on Nov 10, 2010, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Nomi on Nov 10, 2010, 03:10 AM
Quote from: xLeviathan on Nov 09, 2010, 01:51 AM
QuoteAs you've said, I DO understand where you're coming from, as my brother has also shared similar opinions with this review. However, though it isn't open to the public, the one administrator who is currently dealing with all of this is trying his hardest. It's quite a large workload until Nipah comes back.
I don't understand why they opened a server and then a week or so later, have an Admin go off on vacation. Both Admins should've known the hard work to come especially after opening. Since they probably knew that one of them would be gone, they then should not be using that as an excuse and should have been prepared for the work load.

Just because something in real life calls for him/her at the time does not automatically make him/her a bad person. No matter what position you're in, real life always takes priority over a game. If this admin is coming back or is back, then I see no reason for people to get mad at a situation that will resolve itself down the road. o-o
My comment is just an observation. I also never said that the he/she is a bad person o.o; I do not even know the the admin personally xD; However, my observation was merely just me voicing my opinion on how odd it is to open a server under those circumstance. Please note as well, that I am not mad at them either - I don't even play PumpkinRO lol. Anyways, the Admins seem capable enough so, as you noted, I'm sure the "situation" will be resolved down the road.

(On a side note: Pardon on my message in the quote above. Perhaps I should have been expanded more or stated clearly that it is just an observation. Maybe that would've resulted in a less defensive response from other users? lol)

Lol, sorry if it seemed it looked like I was attacking you directly or something. I meant to mention this as a more broader response to those that look ill upon him/her. I mean no offense towards you. xD;
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Noble Staff on Dec 09, 2010, 03:27 PM
I like the name PumpkinRO.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: scenestar on Dec 14, 2010, 10:21 PM
PumpkinRO has cool site and theme. never played it. but i think it is an interesting server to play with. :) my first time to visit their site because of this thread. xD
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 19, 2010, 08:22 PM
Don't bother joining this server, it's corrupt. A SINGLE PERSON, Magix, on a server with .01% MVP card drop rates, has maya purple, orc hero, gtb, fbh, deviling, gr, sinx cards. He claims he camped sinx mvp and got like 29 ips (oh i'm sorry, he broke them all trying to overup them) and the card. Yet, having checked the bio mvps regularly, he's never been seen there and mvp is usually the hwiz which never gets killed.

Oh yeah, he also happens to be a donator. Oh yeah, the server's been here since October. The gms give special treatment to mr. donator. Castle drops changed when Magix's guild got them. Two gms left the team, citing disagreement with the lead gm team. Yet, that resignation topic on pumpkin forums is gone.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Kyozoku on Dec 19, 2010, 08:38 PM
There isn't even any SinX cards on the server and I'm pretty sure the only FBH card belongs to someone else. I'm not sure where you got this information or why you bothered checking because Magix is a god-awful player that makes no difference in whatever he does.

That thread was deleted because Aurora is a known attention whore and drama monger, don't blame the GMs at all for deleting it. Dunno about the other guy, no one really cared about him and he was a tool anyway (lol let's break an emp during WoE). Lysander I think it was.

The people that make reviews like the OP's seem to expect some sort of Vision-esque WoE server, but c'mon man, it says right in the description its a hat server. Don't blame the server, blame yourself.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 19, 2010, 11:12 PM
Quote from: Kyozoku on Dec 19, 2010, 08:38 PM
There isn't even any SinX cards on the server and I'm pretty sure the only FBH card belongs to someone else. I'm not sure where you got this information or why you bothered checking because Magix is a god-awful player that makes no difference in whatever he does.

That thread was deleted because Aurora is a known attention whore and drama monger, don't blame the GMs at all for deleting it. Dunno about the other guy, no one really cared about him and he was a tool anyway (lol let's break an emp during WoE). Lysander I think it was.

The people that make reviews like the OP's seem to expect some sort of Vision-esque WoE server, but c'mon man, it says right in the description its a hat server. Don't blame the server, blame yourself.

Umm there is, if you were at the pvp event you would've seen him on his WS cloaking in and out CTing people. Do you even play on pumpkin? Everybody knows Magix owns the FBH card. Yes, he's not that great and spouts a lot of BS, the point is the server is corrupt.

That thread was made by Lysander, not Aurora. Ok, I guess I have to blame myself for not putting a gun to the GM's head and forcing him not to be corrupt durrhurr. I guess it's unreasonable for players to expect deceny from any GMs.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 12:15 AM
The thread was actually removed due to players trolling the resigned GM team. Any other reason you suggest is untrue and therefor not worth repeating.

As for GM corruption, there has been no evidence or play that has suggested such behavior. Why do you think the GM team is corrupt? Because a player has something that you do not? When players began obtaining MvP cards a few weeks ago, the admins graciously provided the data you requested to verify that they were in fact obtained legit on maps by the MvP drops.

If you don't like a player, or a server, I believe that to be your right as a person. However, I find it rather distasteful that you would slander our good name simply because you can. The previous GM team never cited corruption as a resignation issue. They resigned due to the politics of GMing. This had more to do with responsibilities within the staff ranks than any one member being against the server or its agenda.

The player you mention being a donor is irrelevant. All of his gear was obtained in a legit fashion as far as the GM team can tell you. Are you even sure that he alone possesses the cards you suggest? I think you should have brought this issue up on the server forum before spouting the nonsense to players and people unaffiliated with the server and know nothing of its staff. If you would like to speak to me in game about this issue, please do so. Until then, please refrain from being so openly belligerent for no reason other than jealousy.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 20, 2010, 12:34 AM
He actually said so himself he has all of those previously mentioned. And For SinX mvp card, he indeed has it since I saw him cloak with his WS and moving freely around (no walls was near the area). But the point is, it's extremely highly unlikely (you could say impossible) that one person would find 7 0.01% mvp/mini boss cards in less than 3 month of the server's opening, especially when no one barely saw him killing them. And it's all cards that aids him, not a crappier card, like RSX for example. If he had 1 or maybe even 2 then maybe it could be possible, but now it just doesn't seem right.

I could go talk to a GM/admin about it, but I personally doubt anything will change, so I didn't bother to do so. Maybe I should.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 12:43 AM
What a player says they have, and what they actually do, are often two very different things. If you think theres a corruption issue, report it. If you think theres an exploit issue, report it. Simply walking away from the problem isn't going to help you, your friends, or the server. We are willing to investigate any claims that are of merit, but only if players can present rational explanations for their concerns.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 20, 2010, 01:01 AM
Quote from: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 12:15 AM
The thread was actually removed due to players trolling the resigned GM team. Any other reason you suggest is untrue and therefor not worth repeating.

Could've locked it.

As for GM corruption, there has been no evidence or play that has suggested such behavior. Why do you think the GM team is corrupt? Because a player has something that you do not? When players began obtaining MvP cards a few weeks ago, the admins graciously provided the data you requested to verify that they were in fact obtained legit on maps by the MvP drops.

Like you said, that was weeks ago, only 2 mvp cards were out then (posted in the script at least). Could care less if they had SinX card or not, if it was actually obtained legitimately. Having checked bio mvps regularly with other people, it's clear that said person who owns the card has not been camping Bio3 mvps.


If you don't like a player, or a server, I believe that to be your right as a person. However, I find it rather distasteful that you would slander our good name simply because you can. The previous GM team never cited corruption as a resignation issue. They resigned due to the politics of GMing. This had more to do with responsibilities within the staff ranks than any one member being against the server or its agenda.

It's not slander if there's some basis to all of this. No one sees him going for SinX mvp, yet somehow he has all these mvp cards. How else would he get them, hacking a gm account?

Yeah, that's what you say. The post said, that they didn't like certain decisions or whatnot that the other GMs were making. Of course that's not word for word and I can't bring that post back either.

The player you mention being a donor is irrelevant. All of his gear was obtained in a legit fashion as far as the GM team can tell you. Are you even sure that he alone possesses the cards you suggest? I think you should have brought this issue up on the server forum before spouting the nonsense to players and people unaffiliated with the server and know nothing of its staff. If you would like to speak to me in game about this issue, please do so. Until then, please refrain from being so openly belligerent for no reason other than jealousy.

Donor with 7 (.01% drop) mvp cards is irrelevant? Yeah... just cause the GM tells us that it's all legit doesn't mean it is. As Remia said, he said he had all those cards himself (pretty much everybody on the server knows of his OH and MP and FBH cards at least), and openly used the cloaking card. Bringing this up on server forum would just result in a lock/delete. I would have liked to speak to you about this, but you keep implying that I'm jealous of the cards, of which I wouldn't even really have use for on my characters. Not to mention, speaking to you doesn't solve anything, because your current stance is that it's all legit. I haven't spouted anything to your players, I'm merely giving other people information.

What a player says they have, and what they actually do, are often two very different things. If you think theres a corruption issue, report it. If you think theres an exploit issue, report it. Simply walking away from the problem isn't going to help you, your friends, or the server. We are willing to investigate any claims that are of merit, but only if players can present rational explanations for their concerns.


It doesn't seem like anybody needs to report when you're here. Yeah... I'll walk right up to Fidel Castro and tell him there's corruption in his country.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 01:21 AM
Could've locked it.

Could of. Not my call. Irrelevant.

Like you said, that was weeks ago, only 2 mvp cards were out then (posted in the script at least). Could care less if they had SinX card or not, if it was actually obtained legitimately. Having checked bio mvps regularly with other people, it's clear that said person who owns the card has not been camping Bio3 mvps.

Its clear, because you know, you check those MvPs 24/7 every single day and know EXACTLY who went there, when, and what dropped. You don't know anything, and nothing is "clear", other than you're complaints about someone having something you do not.

It's not slander if there's some basis to all of this. No one sees him going for SinX mvp, yet somehow he has all these mvp cards. How else would he get them, hacking a gm account?

No one saw him going to the MvP? Really? Who are these people you interviewed? When did they play? Do they have records of staking out one MVP the entire time? No. All you have is a bunch of people sitting in town, complaining that someone who MvPs regularly has MVP items. What basis do you have for corruption? Name one thing. All you have is a complaint that someone has MvP card(s). I think you need to find a server with all MvP cards disabled if you cant deal with them. As for "hacking" a GM account, only one member of the GM staff posses item commands, and there is no corruption issues with that player.

Yeah, that's what you say. The post said, that they didn't like certain decisions or whatnot that the other GMs were making. Of course that's not word for word and I can't bring that post back either.

Yes, the previous staff did not get along with the Admin's decisions to reallocate responsibilities and positions within the GM team. They didn't like the changes, they resigned. It doesn't concern you, stop acting like its the missing code to your theory of mass corruption.

Donor with 7 (.01% drop) mvp cards is irrelevant? Yeah... just cause the GM tells us that it's all legit doesn't mean it is. As Remia said, he said he had all those cards himself (pretty much everybody on the server knows of his OH and MP and FBH cards at least), and openly used the cloaking card. Bringing this up on server forum would just result in a lock/delete. I would have liked to speak to you about this, but you keep implying that I'm jealous of the cards, of which I wouldn't even really have use for on my characters. Not to mention, speaking to you doesn't solve anything, because your current stance is that it's all legit. I haven't spouted anything to your players, I'm merely giving other people information.

Im more than willing to talk to you about this. Go ahead and make the thread on the forums. If you think theres a serious problem then do something to fix it. Why do you think its going to be locked or deleted? What the player says he has and what he does are very different things. Please don't just get all angry because someone told you have every MVP card in the game. Until you see his EQ or witness the card usage first hand, ignore him.

As for MvPs, its also possible that he obtained a card at an invasion event. Just because something is a low drop doesn't mean it takes forever to drop, its all about odds. if you want the case reviewed, post a thread on the forums asking for clarification.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 20, 2010, 01:30 AM
I don't report it because of certain reasons. I also tend to just ignore it and try to have fun anyways.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 01:34 AM
I will speak with you in game about this issue.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 20, 2010, 02:18 AM
Its clear, because you know, you check those MvPs 24/7 every single day and know EXACTLY who went there, when, and what dropped. You don't know anything, and nothing is "clear", other than you're complaints about someone having something you do not.

Doesn't have to be only me going 24/7. It's called using logic. When you check for bio mvps regularly and see only hwiz up every time, or check mvps after a reboot and it's always the same damn mvp and then some guy comes in with a SinX mvp card who happens to have 7 other mvp cards, something is not adding up right. It's even clearer that you still don't understand what I'm against still. His having FBH, OH, MP, GR w/e other cards is irrelevant if it was obtained legitimately. But when all this s*** adds up and some parts don't add up there's something wrong. It's not as if I just learned about all the cards now. If I did have this card jealousy that you keep bringing up I would've posted a long time ago.


No one saw him going to the MvP? Really? Who are these people you interviewed? When did they play? Do they have records of staking out one MVP the entire time? No. All you have is a bunch of people sitting in town, complaining that someone who MvPs regularly has MVP items. What basis do you have for corruption? Name one thing. All you have is a complaint that someone has MvP card(s). I think you need to find a server with all MvP cards disabled if you cant deal with them. As for "hacking" a GM account, only one member of the GM staff posses item commands, and there is no corruption issues with that player.

Oh, I'm sorry we don't have fraps/screenie/logs/msn convos/skype recordings of every single time we went to check bio3s or any other mvp out. And I guess you were just joined at the hip with him every time he went mvping? Yeah, all we do is sit in town, which is why we go check out  mvps and noticed inconsistencies. Again, things do not add up. It's not impossible for him to have those cards yes, it's improbable.


Yes, the previous staff did not get along with the Admin's decisions to reallocate responsibilities and positions within the GM team. They didn't like the changes, they resigned. It doesn't concern you, stop acting like its the missing code to your theory of mass corruption.


Never made it the "missing code to my theory of mass corruption". It was only something I remembered


Im more than willing to talk to you about this. Go ahead and make the thread on the forums. If you think theres a serious problem then do something to fix it. Why do you think its going to be locked or deleted? What the player says he has and what he does are very different things. Please don't just get all angry because someone told you have every MVP card in the game. Until you see his EQ or witness the card usage first hand, ignore him.


And exactly what can I do to fix it, other than post on forums? Notify GMs about it? Question all the gms who could easily lie to me? Have them do a search in logs that could easily be manipulated? You've seemed to have found this topic easily.

Yeah, topic on gm corruption wouldn't get locked eventually huh? Already saw him using lvl 3 cloak in pvp event, doesn't stun in WOE, has MP card, FBh was confirmed a long time ago. Sorry, I didn't fraps all my encounters with him.

As for MvPs, its also possible that he obtained a card at an invasion event. Just because something is a low drop doesn't mean it takes forever to drop, its all about odds. if you want the case reviewed, post a thread on the forums asking for clarification.

Yeah, cause there has been like 4 invasion events. Odds my asss, you're telling me he got lucky 7 times at 1/10000 odds for 1 card. Again, Fidel Castro.

Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 02:28 AM
At the end of the day you have nothing that suggests or supports an accusation of corruption. Don't want GM help because they will "lie" to you. Don't want it investigated because it can all be "manipulated". If thats how you want to act, so be it. Just know that we did reach out to help you, and you with purpose slapped the hand away. Sorry you don't enjoy the server, but my original and most important point remains: don't slander the server when you have absolutely no evidence to support such accusations. "Doesn't add up" is not a convicting stance. Please stop believing it is.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 20, 2010, 02:52 AM
Quote from: Atreides on Dec 20, 2010, 02:28 AM
At the end of the day you have nothing that suggests or supports an accusation of corruption. Don't want GM help because they will "lie" to you. Don't want it investigated because it can all be "manipulated". If thats how you want to act, so be it. Just know that we did reach out to help you, and you with purpose slapped the hand away. Sorry you don't enjoy the server, but my original and most important point remains: don't slander the server when you have absolutely no evidence to support such accusations. "Doesn't add up" is not a convicting stance. Please stop believing it is.

Your words are as easily dismissible as mine are. You don't have the means either to say that your GM team is not corrupted. It's not like this stuff is easily photographed, seeing as how I have no means to access any of your server's databases. If I had been so jealous or suspected about the multiple cards beforehand, I would've brought this topic up long before and documented everything.  It's not like I'm stopping you from doing an investigation. You are allowed to investigate all you want, I have no power over whether or not you decide to investigate. I have no power over you bringing this matter to your superiors either for them to investigate. You're aware of the topic already, it's your choice what to do with it.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 20, 2010, 08:32 AM
This server was a colossal waste of my time tbh
hailed during opening as WOE ORIENTATED RAGNAROK ONLINE
GM team caters to donators [Where is Malice]
examples are the garbage quests item req's for Sunglasses or that Valk Soul
or you could easily donate $7 for them "most are going to donate" and line their pockets for this poor service
They DO NOT KNOW what they are doing to improve a "WOE ORIENTATED RAGNAROK ONLINE" server often ignoring the player base doing the opposite of what a WOE SERVER needs in order to survive

Even if im uberbashing them I still made points
This server could have been great
I kept giving them chances to fix things
Best just to let the population drop and for them to learn the hard way of how to manage a server properly
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: LaughingAussie on Dec 20, 2010, 04:48 PM
Is Zenais jorb?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 20, 2010, 05:59 PM
Quote from: LaughingAussie on Dec 20, 2010, 04:48 PM
Is Zenais jorb?

No. If I want to talk smack about this server I won't hide behind a fake name.

Still, if someone comes out of nowhere within 2 months getting 3 MvP cards that are completely beneficial to his class before anyone else even gets ONE that just looks like corrupt s***... Doesn't matter if he's legit or not he's just going to make the server look bad.

Also, about what Zenais said I check Bio 3 once in a while too and it's the same MvP (High Wizard) Nobody even bothers to kill it anymore, and then he just pops out with an Assassin Cross Card when I've never seen him or his guild even camp those mvps, and your invasion event never had a SinX I believe... That just looks illegitimate :/

If you want to know about what the players think and feel pretty much everyone who's been playing here has the assumption that magix is getting spoonfed gears and that this server is corrupt. The fact that he strolls around with like 6-8 miniboss/mvp cards when theres like only 1 outside of his guild only reinforces that idea. How are we supposed to complain or go to you guys when it's assumed that he's donating for them and that the staff are selling cards? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard Atreides, and what... we go to you who has almost 0 power and can do what exactly? You don't even have access to the database, you can't do s*** so stop talking like you can actually do something here. It doesn't help that you guys have built up an image that "Whoever goes against what we say gets banned" on the forums too. All that's left is to fight against an overpowered guild with tons of mvp/miniboss cards or just quit and find a new server. Just saying.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 12:03 AM
First impression and first time playing on this server, i was amazed by its theme and lots of players in opening, and i think this is really a WOE oriented server, Even A GM Resigned because of this FALSE info

but after months playing i only saw donators getting rich or sum ubber donator cough* *magix* has MvP Cards in 0.1 chance in less then 3 months?1 MvP Card in less than 3 months maybe a luck BUT SEVERAL
MVP CARDS ISNT!!

Another Lameness, Sunnglases[1] was not even implemented around less than 1 month of the server,
GUESS WHAT!! one player has it cough* again...


And How do we complain WHEN THEY ALWAYS DELETE OUR REPORT THREADS... so how can we?? i mean
how do other players know whats happening under the table?? They Didn't even Care if your Scammed , Hacked, They Dont care unless you donate,

now the population from 350+ to less than 150 how cool is that? now they are trying hard to bait us in their stupid headgear and some updates but that doesn't cure their negligence , it sums up that its Just another server that WOE/PVP/BG oriented PumpkinRO is a Fake.

Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 12:06 AM
Wow, this s*** finally comes to RMS. GG Pumpkin.

But hey, on the brightside.

"It's being investigated"

Orc Hero in 15 days.
FBH in 30.
And Now SinX.

Did anyone mention +9 Diligent Ice Pick?

They claimed the Orc Hero and FBH was legit. Everyone knew the truth. And now he has a SinX card. How the fck can you sit there and say its being investigated unless the GM team is corrupt. You dont get a SinX card at .01 rates. LET ALONE WHEN BIO 3 ISNT BEING DONE.
WTF has to be investigated!?!
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 21, 2010, 12:30 AM
Well +9'ing gears on any server that has ENRICHED up for donations is pretty simple
just takes a few items
But IDK everything else
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Sarin on Dec 21, 2010, 12:41 AM
just a note...+4>+9 with enriched metals for lvl4 weap is almost 3% chance...and there is 10% chance for slotting Ice Pick. Even considering the rare drop of slotted IP, he was either insanely lucky, or got about 100 Ice Picks. What's the drop on PRO?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 12:51 AM
Didnt realize there were so many Ice Pick[1] floating around considering ive sold 3 Ice picks for 300-350m ea. Yet he has a +9 slotted? Dont be naive. He go that the same way he is getting his MVP Cards. Also, Atreides might not have @item or @produce but he sounds alot like he is covering for someone else with his responses. Which would make him just as corrupt.

Hey guys, i just killed Orc Hero / FBH / SinX Eremes for the first time and got card, im the luckiest SOB on this server.
That is Magix. AKA FCKING BEST.

Drop Rates are .01 for MVP/MiniBoss.

Save the wall o text's for the retards that you hangout with.


Posted on: Dec 20, 2010, 04:47 pm
Quote from: Sarin on Dec 21, 2010, 12:41 AM
just a note...+4>+9 with enriched metals for lvl4 weap is almost 3% chance...and there is 10% chance for slotting Ice Pick. Even considering the rare drop of slotted IP, he was either insanely lucky, or got about 100 Ice Picks. What's the drop on PRO?

3% LOD
1.5% RSX
.3% RSX (Slotted)
100% Eremes

I got all 3 of mine from LOD over a span of time. And they all sold for over 300m ea.
Not to mention i know quite a few people who farmed it longer than me and didnt get 1.
Giant Axe is also 3% and i have only got 1 from Orc Hero after 76 kills. So yea.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 21, 2010, 12:56 AM
I heard about the +9 ice pick, but didn't know it was slotted. Supposedly he had 20+ ice picks.

Watch out, you guys might also be accused of having item/card jealousy.

They keep wanting an investigation, but what good is an investigation if the investigator is potentially corrupt. I bet Kim Jong Il does plenty of investigations too.

If you look at this topic, it's pretty much all his own guildmates defending him:
http://www.pumpkin-ro.com/board/index.php?/topic/1741-raging-review/

I find it funny that he assumes all the people who reviewed are the same person or from the same guild. He should join the Scooby Doo gang in solving mysteries.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 21, 2010, 01:05 AM
Immediately you'll know it's not normal if he has all those, and don't say he's lucky cause we all know that's not true. There's only 2 possible ways that I can see how it happened.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 21, 2010, 02:16 AM
IDK maybe abracadabra spamming with a prof
You can donate for BG badges = free ygems
and donate for bubble gum which = 0.02% mvp card and 6% icepicks

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Refinement_System#Upgrades_beyond_.2B10

90% - 60% - 60% - 30% - 30% - 10%
+4>+5 // +5>+6 // +6>+7 // +8>+9 // +9>+10

upgrading with enriched oridecon for level 4 weapons

Hell if I know that abracadabra summons bio MvP's on top of I think Bloody Branches used to be donatable for early on in the server


Do some research and compound things to be plausable to a point
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 02:44 AM
Bloody Branches were never on the donate list and still arent.

BubbleGum was just recently added not long ago.

And have fun Abracadabraing SinX...

And like its been mentioned before, BIO3 is not being done by anyone and hasnt been for awhile.

So no, its not plausible to a point. The answer is clear.

+9 Diligent Icepick maybe plausible, if you are extremely lucky. All except most of the competition for LOD/RSX that i have ran across when farming has not been the person in question.

I guess we know the reason why MVP cards werent removed when the community suggested it before server launch. They wanted to sell them?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 02:51 AM
I'm not covering for anyone.

As for investigating, the staff is looking into the matter. Staff is damned if they take time to thoroughly look into something, but it seems a summary ban would be tolerated? Im sure that would produce just as much grief from the community. Its being looked into.

As for summoning MvPs, Bloody Branches were selling for around 3 vote points each, people who had hundreds of vote points could of taken advantage of this. Since then, the BBs have been drastically increased with regard to the price.

Just as a side not, if his SinX card is legit, then him having a lot of Ice Picks would just make sense. Check the drop rates with 30x on Eremes. It would be one thing if you guys all had solid evidence to suggest the player in question was cheating, and staff ignored it. However, the only reasonable complaint you've lodged is how unlikely it is. The staff fully agrees the luck is insane to get all of the items he has, but that doesn't prove anything. Thats why we are investigating the matter.

Edit***
Correction, upon review I notice that it is slotted.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 03:09 AM
Insanely Lucky is the new paid for in cash?

Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 03:17 AM
No?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 03:51 AM
Why they keep on deleting Report threads?? So other players wont know whats happening??

and why they dont Cater Scam reports, Hack reports, they even put suggestion topic thread but dont implement suggestions

dont even get started at the quest headgears, like the valksoul, the ingredients is FAR MUCH MORE EXPENSIE THAN THE HEADGEAR ITSELF cough* Baphohorns for this cheap headgear??? DUH !!!
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 03:54 AM
Who keeps deleting report threads? The only threads that get deleted are troll threads. Suggestions are implemented, it just takes time to do so. Please be patient when requesting something.

As for the quests, most servers don't offer in game quests for donate items. The quest isn't so much more expensive than the item anymore, since the credit market has been getting more expensive lately. Valk Soul are vending for 60-70m now.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 04:04 AM
As the sum of this, If the investigation was finish Shall the PUMPKIN RO GM's Admit that there have been some Corruption issue cause its obviously have. ???

If they will say its Legal how come a 1 person that donates so much has all of these gears??
I mean LESS than 3 months you can have several MvP cards, and Uber High end gears??
not just gears its an ICEPICK[1] 10% to slot and +9?? WTF how lame is that??

and invasion event happened 7x THEN YOU GOT A MVP CARD??? COOL STORY BRO!!!

how can you still cover it up...?
well have fun losing all players due to your neglegence...

oh BTW keep on deleting our post, have fun spending donators money
Posted on: Dec 20, 2010, 07:59 pm
Quote from: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 03:54 AM
Who keeps deleting report threads? The only threads that get deleted are troll threads. Suggestions are implemented, it just takes time to do so. Please be patient when requesting something.

As for the quests, most servers don't offer in game quests for donate items. The quest isn't so much more expensive than the item anymore, since the credit market has been getting more expensive lately. Valk Soul are vending for 60-70m now.

Oh is report for ''hacked pls jail the hacker and i dont care even i dont get my items back thread'' is a Troll?? u stupid or what?

and the ValkSoul, which is much more expensive Large Baphomet Horns or the stupid ValkSoul???
Even if.The Quest For Valksoul is [baphomethorns, ValkHelm, Valk Set] If you Sum up all of the gears
its obviously ridiculus!!!!
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 04:23 AM
Oh, you mean the thread that got deleted even after the poster had been dealt with in game for over an hour, and he refused to accept the answer the staff gave him, so he began spamming in the main city? That posters thread? Clearly he wasn't a troll.

As for the DONATION quest, frankly I don't know why you're complaining. Don't like the quest? Donate. Don't like the quest? Buy the donation from a player with zeny or items that you two can agree on. The quest is a counterweight to inflation. Stop acting like its meant to be the primary means to obtain a donation item.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 05:21 AM
Quote from: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 04:23 AM
Oh, you mean the thread that got deleted even after the poster had been dealt with in game for over an hour, and he refused to accept the answer the staff gave him, so he began spamming in the main city? That posters thread? Clearly he wasn't a troll.

As for the DONATION quest, frankly I don't know why you're complaining. Don't like the quest? Donate. Don't like the quest? Buy the donation from a player with zeny or items that you two can agree on. The quest is a counterweight to inflation. Stop acting like its meant to be the primary means to obtain a donation item.

LOL u certainly not on the PumpkinRO from the start because u were saying that.and about ur invented story i never SPAM the main town just im hacked, im not like you cover up boy. for your information, I and our guildmates Quited w/o Ranting IN GAME and we do all complaining on the forums. well you know what a faggot spammer was like so maybe it you?? now eat your own words as your invented story proven false


If i dont like the Quest i will donate?? Hell no!! im not like magix who donate for ingame craps, I JUST THOUGHT THIS SERVER WAS LABELED WOE/PVP/BG they EVEN TOLD THAT Donate items were attainable through quest for the players to enjoi and have fun questing. you dont know that arent you??

tell me one thing... has there even 1 player tried to make a quest ValkSoul????
Answer

Yes
No    <==


because that quest is so Ridiculus no one's gonna make it, even if you i bet you wont do it.....

its like killing valkyrie randgris and great demon baphomet + 10m ?????  for a ***** gear

Atreides dont act that you know and you can cover everything because you couldnt save the downfall of Pumpkin RO

k bai!

EDIT* Due to atreides slow brain ive decided to pinpoint what im saying about the quest gear
GM's Said that Donates arent overpowered and attainable trough quest.

its just like this

Baphohorns is 150m
and valkset is over 100m
+10m quest fee

for a valksoul 70-80m?????? how *****





Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Chuck on Dec 21, 2010, 08:01 AM
What happened to Malice?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 21, 2010, 09:14 AM
Okay guys, you can't just kill bio sinx mvp just anytime you want. The bio mvp that spawns can be 6 different types. The chances are of him killing that many bio sinx is just unlikely. And you cannot abracadabra any bio mvp, There would be a million legit Combat Knives and Ice Picks if that was the case.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Tom~ on Dec 21, 2010, 10:01 AM
You can't summon Bio MvPs, at all. Bloody Branches don't summon them (except for Egnigem Cenia, as seen here (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=random_db&op=3)). Abracadabra uses BBs list to summon monster, so you can't summon Bio MvPs either.

The only way would be through camping sinX in a period of 2 months, although this player has never been seen camping that monster... lol.

It is obvious that something is wrong in PumpkinRO. I mean, MvP card drop rates are 0.01% (1/10000 chances of finding a card rofl), and the server as been up for 2 months and like 5 days?

It'd be easier to believe that nothing is wrong if different persons, from different guilds too, had the cards. But no, they all belong to 1 person lmfao.

I was in PumpkinRO since before it started, but left quickly after I noticed that something was wrong (refer to the report made about ArtificialRO stealing Pumpkin's website). Since then, many people have left too, and after chatting with them separately, they all quit because of the same reason: "Corruption is evident". And I have to agree.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Sarin on Dec 21, 2010, 10:14 AM
Quote from: KitKatBar on Dec 21, 2010, 02:16 AM
90% - 60% - 60% - 30% - 30% - 10%
+4>+5 // +5>+6 // +6>+7 // +8>+9 // +9>+10
Do some research and compound things to be plausable to a point

Do the math, you'll see that for every icepick, there is 2.916% chance to get it to +9 from +0(+4).
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 21, 2010, 12:16 PM
That's for slotted?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 01:37 PM
 Posted Today, 01:21 PM

    * Investigation process: Complete
    * Outcome: Conflict of Rules
    * Other Notes: Buyer has been given a final warning. Seller has been banned.


The investigation has come to a close. Magix has/will be dealt with. The Assassin Cross card in question was bought from a player using real world money and it has/is/will be removed. The player was not a GM, and their name has been withheld to prevent complications of this issue with regard to false reports and general missteps with any pending investigations. The anonymous player in question will no longer be welcomed on pRO. It has been dealt with. Other cards and equipment in Magix possession have long been determined to be legit, these remain unaffected. No, he does not have seven MvP cards or godly gear. Magix is in possession of an FBH, Orc Hero, and Moonlight card. The Moonlight was bought in game from another player who was selling it. The other two were obtained via drops in their respective dungeons and or fields and are legit. The slotted ice pick will remain for the simple fact that making one isn't an impossibility, its just hard, and there is no evidence to suggest any other course of action.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. Enjoy your time on PumpkinRO!


This is the conclusion. I lol'd. They obviously think the community is retarded. SinX came from another player. It came from a GM, just f*** admit it.

B>Non Corrupt server.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xiazo on Dec 21, 2010, 01:43 PM
you people expected anything less from Veee?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Relics on Dec 21, 2010, 02:17 PM
Quote from: Remia on Dec 21, 2010, 12:16 PM
That's for slotted?
No.

0.9*0.6*0.6*0.3*0.3 = 0.02916 effectively making each attempt to +9 an icepick from +4 a 2.9% chance
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 21, 2010, 02:33 PM
Quote from: Xplicit on Dec 21, 2010, 01:37 PM
Posted Today, 01:21 PM

   * Investigation process: Complete
   * Outcome: Conflict of Rules
   * Other Notes: Buyer has been given a final warning. Seller has been banned.


The investigation has come to a close. Magix has/will be dealt with. The Assassin Cross card in question was bought from a player using real world money and it has/is/will be removed. The player was not a GM, and their name has been withheld to prevent complications of this issue with regard to false reports and general missteps with any pending investigations. The anonymous player in question will no longer be welcomed on pRO. It has been dealt with. Other cards and equipment in Magix possession have long been determined to be legit, these remain unaffected. No, he does not have seven MvP cards or godly gear. Magix is in possession of an FBH, Orc Hero, and Moonlight card. The Moonlight was bought in game from another player who was selling it. The other two were obtained via drops in their respective dungeons and or fields and are legit. The slotted ice pick will remain for the simple fact that making one isn't an impossibility, its just hard, and there is no evidence to suggest any other course of action.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. Enjoy your time on PumpkinRO!

Wonder who that "player" is. So, we have Magix who claimed to have hunted for this SinX bio mvp card, which resulted in a +9 icepick from 20-30 ips gained from sinx bio mvp, but according to Atreides' investigation it was really another "player" who sold him that card. Yet, everybody knows that nobody even goes to hunt the bio mvps and it can't be summonable out of town. There have been maybe 3-4 (or even less) summoning events that even had bio mvps (only 1 by my count). I guess, maybe it was a personal summoning event he's talking about? Just because it was obtained in that dungeon means nothing, GMs can summon all the crap they want in a dungeon and then just @item a card.

Anyway, it's god damn obvious it's a GM doing s***, as we've all been saying. So, stop trying to cover up s***, even your cover is horrible. They just can't admit it, because then more players will quit the server.

How funny, usually both parties would be banned in those types of exchanges, yet Magix only got a FINAL warning. What are you saying? There were more warnings before that?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 21, 2010, 04:14 PM
QuoteMagix is in possession of an FBH, Orc Hero, and Moonlight card. The Moonlight was bought in game from another player who was selling it. The other two were obtained via drops in their respective dungeons and or fields and are legit.

That's funny, I could've swore his whitesmith had a ghostring on it (AD did no damage in BG) and he had a maya purple too because I've never seen him use box of sunlight yet he always sees cloaked people. Maybe he's just using WPE then? Which one do you want players to think he's using? Also in WoE my friend played with s*** Happens Every Time and they couldn't dispell a creator that Magix had bragged about lending his gtb, ghostring and deviling to that never dies.

That's really 3 man.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 21, 2010, 04:22 PM
They need to clean that server up
once the effects of Hatred/Forced Entry quitting pRO start circulating [We are pretty much the only guild that woes]
It will be truly dead
Have my doubts about the population as well

I only know of one person who has a GR - some BR champ who is total trash mode
and that creator in some guild has a GTB [likes to brag about it but is trashmode as well]
I remember someone saying they had a deviling around november or early december

Alot of butthurt about QQMVPCARDSARESOVERPOWERED
I just wanted a decent WOE ORIENTATED SERVER but that is like finding a needle in a haystack while blindefolded
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 21, 2010, 04:30 PM
I dont mind if they're obtained legitimately.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Ganondorf on Dec 21, 2010, 04:55 PM
I was one of the numerous players who joined the PumpkinRO forums excited for the launch of the supposed "best WoE oriented server ever".

How wrong I and many others were...

Honestly, this thread is moot, and Atreides, your argument is absolute s***.  Just admit that PumpkinRO is corrupt like 95% of today's atrocious servers.  It's not that big of a deal really.

Quote from: Remia on Dec 21, 2010, 09:14 AM
Okay guys, you can't just kill bio sinx mvp just anytime you want. The bio mvp that spawns can be 6 different types. The chances are of him killing that many bio sinx is just unlikely. And you cannot abracadabra any bio mvp, There would be a million legit Combat Knives and Ice Picks if that was the case.

This sums pretty much everything up, there were people who have been hunting these MvPs literally all day and night and didn't see a trace of Magix or his guild mates on any of the maps that these MvPs were dropped at.  The people who I've talked to that still dwell on PumpkinRO can back up the fact that Bio MvPing has been dead for weeks now.

So...

- The Bio MvP hasn't been touched in weeks.
- You cannot summon the Bio MvPs from Bloody Branches.
- You cannot summon the Bio MvPs from Abracadabra as it uses the same list of MvPs as Bloody Branches do.
- There have already been people camping the Lord of Death and RSX 0806 MvPs.  None of these individuals seen Magix or any of his guild members killing the said MvPs.

Face it, you're caught and you know it.  Between this crap, the random bannings, and the fact that you guys delete threads on the forums regularly that you either don't agree with or are posted from people who know the truth about issues behind the scenes, you've made a pretty good example of how servers are today.  You guys also don't care about what the community thinks either, as you can go into the suggestions part of the forum and see that everything important or that doesn't get deleted is left there either not answered or has a reply stating.  "We're investigating it, derp, herp, dur."

Funny how Malice just stares at this thread but never says anything.  Probably trying to find a way to cover everything up like they did about the ArtificialRO dilemma.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: adhelle on Dec 21, 2010, 05:22 PM
Not that I want to add more fire to the discussion about other servers.
But like tom~ said this is obviously fishy.
Making a comparison:
Lumina has MvP rates at 0.1%, and we have been up for 1 year and 5 months.
It was a mistake opening it with those rates, and of course there are already more MvP cards than the desired at this point.
But there are 0, absolutely zero, sinx cards.
Like you said, it doesnt come from BB, neither abracadabra, and it's one of the 6 bio labs MvPs.
It's pretty rare to even have the chance to kill a sinx, and you say people haven't even tried that much?
It's highly unlikely that someone already got it in a 2 months old server with one tenth of rates of mine.
There isn't even any need to comment the rest of those items... Or the staff reply. "Anonymous player"? Right...
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 21, 2010, 07:26 PM
It could happen if someone was actually camping and killing bio 3 MvPs, which I haven't seen since Fatty Brigade quit and mine stopped killing it.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: l2ue on Dec 21, 2010, 08:28 PM
Summary of what happen at PumpkinRO
1. Be extremely helpful on the forums and gain attention of the admin.
2. After one month of preparation, post an application to join the staff as a high level GM.
3. While doing all of this make sure you're the opposite sex of the admin and sport a very suggestive photo.
4. Then @item three thousand MvP Cards each and hand them over to the 20 individual guild masters from different parts of the Midgard Kingdom.
5. Create the fellowship of the cards and have them go on a adventure to cast these cards into the thor volcano.
6. But the player falls to the card's powers and uses it, prompting an investigation.
7. RMS citizens and trolls all stand along the border of drama to reap the soul from an incoming thread.

?????
?????
?????

PumpkinRO goes back to its everyday life while the admin of LuminaRO brag about her server, despite its past history here at RMS.

?????
?????
?????
?????

PROFIT.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 10:37 PM


about the incident, PumpkinRO GM's wants us to believe that another player sold SinX card to magix?
lol to think that their players and people are DUMB to believe in that, and how come he has Maya P,you cannot deny it , he let us view of his Ulles Cap that has Maya P,He Even told us he camped the MvP cards not bought from other plater, NOW WHOSE LYING TO US NOW MAGIX OR THE GMs???? YOURE BOTH GAYS

So now Atreides show us your wacky face and cover your Head GM's Lame Report, even a stupid person wont believe it.

But if you change your RO motto from WOE/PvP/BG oriented server to Corrupt/Donate/Retarded oriented server , we will be happy
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: yC on Dec 21, 2010, 10:56 PM
Let's not derail the topic to bash other servers.

I am late to the party and only read the last few posts.  By chance, there are people that win the lottery regardless of how hard it is.  So the possibility is always there and cannot be denied.  I don't think anyone will find the answer to this problem here regarding the card, only those that are involved would know.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Aurora™ on Dec 21, 2010, 11:09 PM
Quote from: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 04:04 AM
As the sum of this, If the investigation was finish Shall the PUMPKIN RO GM's Admit that there have been some Corruption issue cause its obviously have. ???

If they will say its Legal how come a 1 person that donates so much has all of these gears??
I mean LESS than 3 months you can have several MvP cards, and Uber High end gears??
not just gears its an ICEPICK[1] 10% to slot and +9?? WTF how lame is that??

and invasion event happened 7x THEN YOU GOT A MVP CARD??? COOL STORY BRO!!!

how can you still cover it up...?
well have fun losing all players due to your neglegence...

oh BTW keep on deleting our post, have fun spending donators money
Posted on: Dec 20, 2010, 07:59 pm
Quote from: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 03:54 AM
Who keeps deleting report threads? The only threads that get deleted are troll threads. Suggestions are implemented, it just takes time to do so. Please be patient when requesting something.

As for the quests, most servers don't offer in game quests for donate items. The quest isn't so much more expensive than the item anymore, since the credit market has been getting more expensive lately. Valk Soul are vending for 60-70m now.

Oh is report for ''hacked pls jail the hacker and i dont care even i dont get my items back thread'' is a Troll?? u stupid or what?

and the ValkSoul, which is much more expensive Large Baphomet Horns or the stupid ValkSoul???
Even if.The Quest For Valksoul is [baphomethorns, ValkHelm, Valk Set] If you Sum up all of the gears
its obviously ridiculus!!!!

I just want to point out, considering I'm the one who created the new layout of the forums, that any and all player reports are hidden to all regular members of the forums. It is set so that the players may post a report, the team may see it, and take action without any biased trolls or moot/pointless posts were made. I guess some people didn't catch that. Though, I have to admit, many, many topics are deleted on a daily basis, which I never agreed with.

As far as it goes, I'd like to know why someone apparently thinks I'm an attention whore? Hm. I'm not sure I've done anything to get be deemed under that title other than work fairly hard for that server, which, by the way, ended up with me getting nothing in return.

I'm not going to deny any claims of players saying that the staff may or may not be corrupt, as I firmly believe there is some sort of corruption going on. Granted that, however, was not my initial basis of leaving, as someone has already pointed out. Also, I wouldn't throw in the entire GM team as everyone has already in this post. Muse has done nothing wrong in any and all cases, and is/was as much as a hard working staff member as I was. As far as the new staff, I'm not sure. I pretty much left after a few more posts after my resignation. So, the only two in question, for me, would be Malice and Nipah. Which even then, I'm fairly sure Nipah isn't corrupt, though I've had many good points brought to my attention as to why he could be. Not letting it down as a possibility.

That's just my two cents. Please don't bring my, or Lysander's, name into the argument, or misunderstand the reason of our resignations, as it was purely because of the mechanics of the way the team was run, which I will not go in to.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Lysander on Dec 21, 2010, 11:17 PM
Firstly, it's not a WoE server. Nipah registered it incorrectly, and we had worked ever since to clarify our intentions with the server. Anyways, Aurora and I resigned because our superiors were incapable of handling things in a professional manner in addition to how they handled the server as a whole. Nipah asked if he may delete my resignation thread due to trolling, and I said yes.

As for the claims of GM corruption: all I will say definitively is that IF there was corruption, it was no lower than Admin level. I looked over the logs myself, which showed nothing illegit, however admittedly they CAN be altered by only Admins, and I do think there was NO possible way for Magix to have legitly gotten the cards that he did. Aurora and I tried repeatedly to get the Admins to look further into it, and no action was taken (until recently, apparently). Whether it was by player or Admin that sold him the cards, I do not know. Both are just as possible. Anyways, Aurora and I have moved to run other servers, and from this point onward it is up to pumpkinRO's players to decide where it is headed. We wish the best of luck to all of you.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 21, 2010, 11:28 PM
Quote from: 360flip on Dec 21, 2010, 10:37 PM
about the incident, PumpkinRO GM's wants us to believe that another player sold SinX card to magix?
lol to think that their players and people are DUMB to believe in that, and how come he has Maya P,you cannot deny it , he let us view of his Ulles Cap that has Maya P,He Even told us he camped the MvP cards not bought from other plater, NOW WHOSE LYING TO US NOW MAGIX OR THE GMs???? YOURE BOTH GAYS

So now Atreides show us your wacky face and cover your Head GM's Lame Report, even a stupid person wont believe it.

But if you change your RO motto from WOE/PvP/BG oriented server to Corrupt/Donate/Retarded oriented server , we will be happy
Thank you for playing pRO! We wish you luck wherever you go. Its obvious that nothing will please you, so please stop calling me out like I don't have anything better to do than wipe away your tears. Us GAYS with wacky faces are busy people afterall. If you knew the Head GM you would know she isn't a corrupt person and would never stand behind such a server if your allegations were true. If you don't like the decision that was reached, sorry. Can't offer you any evidence because you'll just say it was forged. Thanks for you continued interest.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 22, 2010, 12:47 AM
I'm wondering where Malice is anyhow
Prolly took off for vacation with all the donator bucks from PumpkinRO aka Veero 2.0
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Lysander on Dec 22, 2010, 12:56 AM
He was given his share of the profits from pRO by Nipah, and immediately went MIA (per players and Nipah himself). Kinda ironic, given that he demoted me for not being as active the week my computer was broken and thereby promoting his girlfriend instead. Guess it's okay when you don't care about the players, but not when there's a legitimate reason for being semi-inactive, it's not.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 22, 2010, 01:01 AM
Quote from: KitKatBar on Dec 22, 2010, 12:47 AM
I'm wondering where Malice is anyhow
Prolly took off for vacation with all the donator bucks from PumpkinRO aka Veero 2.0


Oh, don't worry, he has been checking into this topic as well as pumpkin's forums.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Malice In Wonderland on Dec 22, 2010, 01:17 AM
I learned a long time ago how pointless it was to discuss anything over RMS. Simple as that Matthew.
Edit line
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I've been focusing on a number of other things currently, just because I'm working in the background does not mean I've vanished from PRO. Sorry for the confusion. You can still get a hold of me on MSN and Forums
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: LaughingAussie on Dec 22, 2010, 01:30 AM
Quote from: adhelle on Dec 21, 2010, 05:22 PM
Not that I want to add more fire to the discussion about other servers.
But like tom~ said this is obviously fishy.
Making a comparison:
Lumina has MvP rates at 0.1%, and we have been up for 1 year and 5 months.
It was a mistake opening it with those rates, and of course there are already more MvP cards than the desired at this point.
But there are 0, absolutely zero, sinx cards.
Like you said, it doesnt come from BB, neither abracadabra, and it's one of the 6 bio labs MvPs.
It's pretty rare to even have the chance to kill a sinx, and you say people haven't even tried that much?
It's highly unlikely that someone already got it in a 2 months old server with one tenth of rates of mine.
There isn't even any need to comment the rest of those items... Or the staff reply. "Anonymous player"? Right...

*cough* Atrocity *cough*
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: datme on Dec 22, 2010, 07:39 AM
I'd rather have RO overrun by BR's. Atleast their servers have decent WoE's...
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: MeowyMeow on Dec 22, 2010, 09:51 AM
Quote from: datme on Dec 22, 2010, 07:39 AM
I'd rather have RO overrun by BR's. Atleast their servers have decent WoE's...

qft david !!


well the thing that annoys me, more like stop using names like 'nipah' or 'malice in wonderland' w/e s***, you're all the same staff/admins from veeeRO, side server to earn money, whatever. get out, your servers fail, your playerbase is awful, your features are awful.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 22, 2010, 10:11 AM
People have played RO for many years, and have not been able to get a single MvP card, every server they join, if they see a guy have more than x2 mvp cards they are gona cry of jealousy and say " server has corrupt GM's " or " your a GM pretending to be legit " or " IM SO FCKING EMO AND JEALOUS I WANT U GUYS TO DISABLE GTB+FBH cause pple have em and i dont Q.Q "...Everytime i come to forums and read, people wine and cry about it all the time.

1st : Im NOT lysander ( yes i dont know why many have asked this )
2nd : i dont have 7+ mvp cards ( wana count moonlight that i bought for 500m ? hydro for 10m ? sala for 100m + ? ) q.q some more
3rd : fbh over powered to most ladys that complain around here ? People pretend to be pro and say " oh yes im pinoy and i kno what a good woe is i r so pro and fbh OP disable it ".. DD high wiz, gamba wiz.. Have 2 separate jobs aye ? DD high wiz if it has sala = MS spam.. IF I WAS TALKING ABOUT A PRO FCKING GUILD and i mean A GOOD one, not the s*** ones on this server, not to mention SHET LOOL.. No high wizard AMP'S in woe.. FBH 50% matk+10%=60%, AMP skill = 50% matk...if u wana disable FBH, also i wana suggest, disable asura on champ, disable edp on sinX, disable LP on proff, disable AMP on HW, disable devotion on pally, disable arrow shower on sniper, disable CT on WS, you people, seem like 10 year olds.. CARD NUT LEGIT Q.Q ~CRY CRY CRY ~ DISABLE IT PLZ GMS PLZZ... ( whispers to a GM, please gm disable fbh+gtb ill suck ur carrot ! ) - which NF pple Q.Q-ed most..

Every MvP card was made for a purpose. Why are mvp cards rare ? People that say it aint legit, tell ur mommy on me..So she can spank me like no tomorrow ...

Everyone that complains about a MvP card, is cause they dont have it BUT WHAT IFF they had it ? u'd be surprised at what people would say ( altough theres also those wana be smartass people that say " even if i had it i wouldnt use it cause im to pro, and also im pro at sucking carrots " )

You people that BRAG so much, run your mouth 24/7.. CLAIM to be PRO, TALK about PRO WoE's ( that u never been to ) and tell a guy with mvp cards " ye u suck at playing HW or champ or etc etc i play better then u " or " im more skilled then u "... Dont just run ur mouth, PROVE IT, show US ur PRO mouth skills happen, a REAL pro dont care who has MvP cards or who dosent, a real pro grabs his **** and says " ONLY 10 MVP CARDS ? WEAK IMA FCK U UP BUDDY " A real PRO looks and seeks a fight NO MATTER WHAT THEY GOT OR WHO IT IS, win or lose, they dont give a fck, a real pros mind is all about " ILL FCK U UP BUDDY ULL SEE "...A REAL pro dosent Q.Q in forum DEPENDING on GMS disabling MvP cards ( which wont make woe any diff, if a server has a s*** woe, the server has a s*** woe, period. )...

Not to mention.. A REAL PRO WOULD RELAIZE RO IS DIEING IN GENERAL, 500+ SERVERS OUT THERE, 200 POP MAX PER, 95% CORRUPTED...a real PRO would be like FCK RO IM SO PRO IMA PWN ON SC2.. OR maybe get A JOB.. Altough pple here will say " yea.. I got a life buddy, i make $5,000 per day, im done talking to u cause ima get on my private jet and head to vegas and spend another $10m dollars cya "

Why do i play ro ? BECUASE I GOT TIME TO THROW AWAY.. And i grab my balls and say " geez this are huge " ops i mean " LETS MAKE PPLE RAGEQUIT ? ! "

Not to mention im waiting for D3 to come out so i can OWN u ladys there again ... ( i hope it aint region locked so i can own u Q.Qerz even more, for the ones that r gona get it )..


Anywho to ALL haters, if ur gona HATE, get a life, why hate so much ? umadbro ? Chill... Get a gf or something..

Trollz will always troll, haters will always hate, I HATE U ALL ( hey stewie griffin is famous and he says it all the time )..

Find something else to do.. U Q.Qerz bore pple.. Srsly..

( pasted it off pumkin-ro, was lazy to re-write )

high end shi .. LDamn i only wanted to be known in pRO, not in RMS, im so famous 8D.. Guys if you want my signature..Its $10 usd per..And for u girls out there, if u want my pic..u know the drill :)
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 22, 2010, 12:17 PM
Magix I agree with them being uberbutthurt over MVP cards
These are the same garbage players that came from IntenseRO most likely loaded with MVP cards as well
who don't have the strangest clue to kill someone who is loaded with mvp cards so they QQ on the forums and rage on RMS

RO has been dying since 2004 [when World of Warcraft got released] ;__;
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 22, 2010, 01:38 PM
Quote from: Real_Magix on Dec 22, 2010, 10:11 AM
People have played RO for many years, and have not been able to get a single MvP card, every server they join, if they see a guy have more than x2 mvp cards they are gona cry of jealousy and say " server has corrupt GM's " or " your a GM pretending to be legit " or " IM SO FCKING EMO AND JEALOUS I WANT U GUYS TO DISABLE GTB+FBH cause pple have em and i dont Q.Q "...Everytime i come to forums and read, people wine and cry about it all the time.

1st : Im NOT lysander ( yes i dont know why many have asked this )
2nd : i dont have 7+ mvp cards ( wana count moonlight that i bought for 500m ? hydro for 10m ? sala for 100m + ? ) q.q some more
3rd : fbh over powered to most ladys that complain around here ? People pretend to be pro and say " oh yes im pinoy and i kno what a good woe is i r so pro and fbh OP disable it ".. DD high wiz, gamba wiz.. Have 2 separate jobs aye ? DD high wiz if it has sala = MS spam.. IF I WAS TALKING ABOUT A PRO FCKING GUILD and i mean A GOOD one, not the s*** ones on this server, not to mention SHET LOOL.. No high wizard AMP'S in woe.. FBH 50% matk+10%=60%, AMP skill = 50% matk...if u wana disable FBH, also i wana suggest, disable asura on champ, disable edp on sinX, disable LP on proff, disable AMP on HW, disable devotion on pally, disable arrow shower on sniper, disable CT on WS, you people, seem like 10 year olds.. CARD NUT LEGIT Q.Q ~CRY CRY CRY ~ DISABLE IT PLZ GMS PLZZ... ( whispers to a GM, please gm disable fbh+gtb ill suck ur carrot ! ) - which NF pple Q.Q-ed most..

Every MvP card was made for a purpose. Why are mvp cards rare ? People that say it aint legit, tell ur mommy on me..So she can spank me like no tomorrow ...

Everyone that complains about a MvP card, is cause they dont have it BUT WHAT IFF they had it ? u'd be surprised at what people would say ( altough theres also those wana be smartass people that say " even if i had it i wouldnt use it cause im to pro, and also im pro at sucking carrots " )

You people that BRAG so much, run your mouth 24/7.. CLAIM to be PRO, TALK about PRO WoE's ( that u never been to ) and tell a guy with mvp cards " ye u suck at playing HW or champ or etc etc i play better then u " or " im more skilled then u "... Dont just run ur mouth, PROVE IT, show US ur PRO mouth skills happen, a REAL pro dont care who has MvP cards or who dosent, a real pro grabs his d*** and says " ONLY 10 MVP CARDS ? WEAK IMA FCK U UP BUDDY " A real PRO looks and seeks a fight NO MATTER WHAT THEY GOT OR WHO IT IS, win or lose, they dont give a fck, a real pros mind is all about " ILL FCK U UP BUDDY ULL SEE "...A REAL pro dosent Q.Q in forum DEPENDING on GMS disabling MvP cards ( which wont make woe any diff, if a server has a s*** woe, the server has a s*** woe, period. )...

Not to mention.. A REAL PRO WOULD RELAIZE RO IS DIEING IN GENERAL, 500+ SERVERS OUT THERE, 200 POP MAX PER, 95% CORRUPTED...a real PRO would be like FCK RO IM SO PRO IMA PWN ON SC2.. OR maybe get A JOB.. Altough pple here will say " yea.. I got a life buddy, i make $5,000 per day, im done talking to u cause ima get on my private jet and head to vegas and spend another $10m dollars cya "

Why do i play ro ? BECUASE I GOT TIME TO THROW AWAY.. And i grab my balls and say " geez this are huge " ops i mean " LETS MAKE PPLE RAGEQUIT ? ! "

Not to mention im waiting for D3 to come out so i can OWN u ladys there again ... ( i hope it aint region locked so i can own u Q.Qerz even more, for the ones that r gona get it )..


Anywho to ALL haters, if ur gona HATE, get a life, why hate so much ? umadbro ? Chill... Get a gf or something..

Trollz will always troll, haters will always hate, I HATE U ALL ( hey stewie griffin is famous and he says it all the time )..

Find something else to do.. U Q.Qerz bore pple.. Srsly..

( pasted it off pumkin-ro, was lazy to re-write )

high end shi .. LDamn i only wanted to be known in pRO, not in RMS, im so famous 8D.. Guys if you want my signature..Its $10 usd per..And for u girls out there, if u want my pic..u know the drill :)

TL;DR

Don't care if he got them legitimately, but it has been pretty been proven that Magix already bought the card illegally, under suspicious means. Then, you count that he has all those other cards and the upper-level GMs didn't bother investigating until NOW for some reason, even though one would think that when other GMs are prompting for investigations, it would have much more worth than a thread on RMS.

As for your pictures, here you go:
(http://i52.tinypic.com/123kx9s.png)
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 22, 2010, 03:34 PM
lol, funny post Magix. From the gist of what I got (Until I had to stop reading because my head started to hurt from trying to comprehend your retarded, bastardized version of the english language...

You're saying that

1.) You don't have 7+ mvp cards? I guess FBH, Orc Hero, Maya Purple, Ghostring, Deviling, SinX Card, Golden Thief Bug, Moonlight don't count in those categories of .01% card drops that you amazingly have after 2-3 months. I wonder what else you got that you haven't shown us. :)

2.) FBH can be overpowered yes, but not really on you. That was never the issue because you're a piece of s*** high wizard who only knows how to use like three skills tops... that's about it. I've never seen you use any other skill in the entire time I've pvp'd / bg'd / woe'd against you. You see, you were the joke of the server and even your own guild admitted it. You might have been a threat if you weren't a garbage HW who would walk 10 cells ahead of his guild to get dispelled and drop in a second. The only reason TITs probably kept you was because you had MvP cards, which is amazing because they really must have patience putting up with a retarded arrogant douchebag who can't even see how fail he is, every class I've seen you play you've played completely reliant upon MvP cards rather than skill, don't talk like you got it bro.... That's the real reason why outlaws kicked you, you're a bad player who thinks he's the s*** and nobody likes you. Your guildmates are probably just sucking up to you cause you got items.

3.) You talk about mvp cards being rare and having purposes blah blah, yeah they're really rare when one guy has like 8 mvp/miniboss cards while the rest of the server has like.. 2 (I actually saw one guy camp GTB for the past 3 months, and never saw you.. how'd you get yours? Magixal power?). Wonder what you're doing right bro, maybe you can teach us to be amazing like you.

4.) You're talking big like you guys are amazing when the only guild you've defeated is SHET. Cool, we overpowered them with 10 people, that really speaks loud for your guild's skillz bro.

It'd be nice if they actually showed the person who sold the SINX card to Magix, instead of making him anonymous which just sounds incredibly suspicious. It takes at least 2-4 people to do bio 3 mvps so, you don't want there to be other people who can confirm whether or not a card ACTUALLY dropped? Keep confirming that he's not getting his items legit. What's even more amazing is, has he ever even posted a screen shot of him finding any of these cards?

@ Zenais, you've unlocked the mystery of Magix. He can't help but act the way he does because he's a Gino/Guido. :)
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 22, 2010, 07:50 PM
There we go, theres always the first princess to talk whack, Jorb, i never even counted you as a player, you were so horrible, im a bad high wizard ? There we go, as stated on my FIRST post, " your bad im so pro, im better then u "... Your just proving your retarded. Come prove it to me, actually, wana brag about skill, lets do this, visionRO, me and u, 1 vs 1, hw vs hw, visionRO, no mvp cards, pure skill, prove me wrong.. ( im gona bet 50 usd on this duel this will be official, versus 50 usd of urs ) Lets play big or go home, if u wana make it 100, fine by me.


I dont have develing, and i dont got GTB, to bad you dont know anything about tits, i clearly told em before joining them, I HAVENT WoE'd for over 2-3 years ? Ive ALWAYS been a PvP person, so yea i told them my woe skill wasnt gona be as sharp, walking 10 cells in front of LP and dieing, thats before i got my new comp that dosent lag in WoE ? Outlaws kicked me cause u said im bad ? I talked to devil to tell me the real reason and he said because he tought i was in another guild.. Ive talked to devil since LRO.. Seems you dont even know anything, you are talking pure trash here, when have i said im a pro player ? Im just a player, high wiz is not even my main, just a WoE char..

You come here, and try to " guess " the cards i got, PM any gm you want, i dont got gtb, develing etc etc etc most of those cards u put up there, u have no knowledge what so ever.. You are complete trash, in FACT, ask devil, i was in the group of LRO when we were debating the names of the guild.. Ended up being OutLaws.. Now tell me do u even know the true history of Nightfall ?  AKA S e e d ? Do you even know the total guild names its had ? Your such a trash player, and your black. And your so horrible on ro. All you do is talk trash, in forums, in game, all ive seen you do is talk trash, in fact im gona upload some screenies here in a bit, just so people can see how trash you are Lol.. You are a sad player. Its ok buddy , mommy still loves u. I feel so bad for your mom...

Tonight i will pray for your mom.. Honestly...she has a FAIL kid that all he does is talk about RO.. Q.Q about ro...Live of ro.. When i clearly said, you wana be really pro and brag about SKILL, play a real game, play SC2...WoW.. a high tier game.. Not a game that only has 200 + pple IF SO, not counting merchants. What a big step of your life you got there.

I focus on life to you know.. And yet i can PROVE im way more successful than you. ON REAL LIFE, and ro.. Look at you, your getting so serious of a ro server, getting on ur pally, and dieing to my WS and saying OMG i QUIT... Your nothing but a quitter, a q.qer..a useless emo guy that pretends to be " pro "... When did i say i bought sinX card off a player ? I never said that... Ever... All your doing now is making up shi...

If im so bad at high wizard, i wana see you try and kill it.. We can make it an official duel, without mvp cards, gms can also monitor it. Pick any class Jorb, sinX ? champ ? Whitesmith ? Pick it, since ur so in love of ro, i wana make your life be successful ( cough )... If you were actually a GOOD ro player u would be known, but sadly ur not, but if it was that way, when ur 25 years old with 2 kids working at burger king ur gona think to urself " s*** man, i shoulve listened to magix and focused on getting a better life, ragnarok ruined my life, im so mad, i took it to serious dammit ~ " ~ Jorb clean up on aisle 5..... Also about my pictures, i posted them for a reason correct  ? Im not shy or scared of posting my pics, i actually got the guts to do so.

Jorb talk about something else than ro bro. Talk about school " DUDE I PASSED MY MATH EXAM WITH A 100% " or " YEEE I JUST GOT LAID " Something interesting, people here, reading this shi, looking at you and LOLOLOLOLing on how serious ur taking this, cause u cant beat me and i spanked ur mom last night all night..Tell her i wont be so rough with her next time will ya ?.. Ops im being mean, now hes gona report me, IM SCARED..

Do me a favor Jorb, accomplish something on life, be successful, then come talk s***..
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 22, 2010, 08:08 PM
Quote from: Real_Magix on Dec 22, 2010, 07:50 PM

I focus on life to you know.. And yet i can PROVE im way more successful than you. ON REAL LIFE, and ro.. Look at you, your getting so serious of a ro server, getting on ur pally, and dieing to my WS and saying OMG i QUIT... Your nothing but a quitter, a q.qer..a useless emo guy that pretends to be " pro "... When did i say i bought sinX card off a player ? I never said that... Ever... All your doing now is making up shi...


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Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 22, 2010, 08:42 PM
It looks like you're the one, Magix, taking RO and other games too seriously. You even dared Jorb to go play Vision and bet real life money on a duel.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 22, 2010, 09:05 PM
Then who let marl borrow that GTB+GR for last weeks woe [he did mention having it for woe]
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 22, 2010, 09:24 PM
How cute, he was so butt hurt by my post he made a giant wall of raging text to flame me. Even when you try to make yourself look good and say you're better than me, you just look worse bro, like a little kid throwing a tantrum cause he's wrong.

Quotehere we go, theres always the first princess to talk whack, Jorb, i never even counted you as a player, you were so horrible, im a bad high wizard ? There we go, as stated on my FIRST post, " your bad im so pro, im better then u "... Your just proving your retarded. Come prove it to me, actually, wana brag about skill, lets do this, visionRO, me and u, 1 vs 1, hw vs hw, visionRO, no mvp cards, pure skill, prove me wrong.. ( im gona bet 50 usd on this duel this will be official, versus 50 usd of urs ) Lets play big or go home, if u wana make it 100, fine by me.

Firstly I don't play visionro, nor will I ever play that trash. I play RO to play with my friends, you wouldn't know what it's like because you have no friends. Secondly, how about we just bring this to pumpkinRO.. although I can bet 100$ that you'll use gears to win this. Hell, I bet you've even donated for an extra edge on VisionRO too, who knows what you've bought there.

QuoteI dont have develing, and i dont got GTB, to bad you dont know anything about tits, i clearly told em before joining them, I HAVENT WoE'd for over 2-3 years ? Ive ALWAYS been a PvP person, so yea i told them my woe skill wasnt gona be as sharp, walking 10 cells in front of LP and dieing, thats before i got my new comp that dosent lag in WoE ? Outlaws kicked me cause u said im bad ? I talked to devil to tell me the real reason and he said because he tought i was in another guild.. Ive talked to devil since LRO.. Seems you dont even know anything, you are talking pure trash here, when have i said im a pro player ? Im just a player, high wiz is not even my main, just a WoE char..

Sure bro,  you're blaming that s*** on lag and old pc? That's funny seeing as how you were a major donator, maybe you should put the money to better use instead of making up excuses. I know what it's like to play SE with 150+ people on screen with an 8 year old PC, you would actually lag too much to actually move if your excuse was real. Lastly, Outlaws kicked you because all of the main members said you're a really bad player and you're an annoying faggot. Deal with it.

QuoteYou come here, and try to " guess " the cards i got, PM any gm you want, i dont got gtb, develing etc etc etc most of those cards u put up there, u have no knowledge what so ever.. You are complete trash, in FACT, ask devil, i was in the group of LRO when we were debating the names of the guild.. Ended up being OutLaws.. Now tell me do u even know the true history of Nightfall ?  AKA S e e d ? Do you even know the total guild names its had ? Your such a trash player, and your black. And your so horrible on ro. All you do is talk trash, in forums, in game, all ive seen you do is talk trash, in fact im gona upload some screenies here in a bit, just so people can see how trash you are Lol.. You are a sad player. Its ok buddy , mommy still loves u. I feel so bad for your mom...

So on top of being an offensive arrogant douchebag I can throw a racist on that list too, seems the more I get to know you the more white trash comes to mind. I take back that guido remark, you're now trailer park trash. Do I need to know their history? If you knew anything about anyone you'd know that Devil joined around the same time as I did, it's good to know though, that you have more history with my guild than I do and they would rather have me in it than you. Go ahead and upload pictures, it's just proving my point that you're a hypocrite and take this game waaaaaaaaaay much more seriously than I do. Take your own advice and get a life.

QuoteTonight i will pray for your mom.. Honestly...she has a FAIL kid that all he does is talk about RO.. Q.Q about ro...Live of ro.. When i clearly said, you wana be really pro and brag about SKILL, play a real game, play SC2...WoW.. a high tier game.. Not a game that only has 200 + pple IF SO, not counting merchants. What a big step of your life you got there.

Coming from the loser kid who couldn't be satisfied with playing RO for fun and instead made it about farming multiple MvP cards so he could have an edge in PvP/WoE, because obviously his skill isn't making up for it. How many hours did you put into MvPing if you even "farmed" them? Which probably means you've put in 100x more hours than I have into this game, and you're talking about having a life.... I think it's the other way around LOL. Oh, and btw. If you were actually going to try and sound cool like you play another game that requires skill you would've said SC1, not 2 cause now you just sound like some kid who's hopping on the omg new game so cool bandwagon. If you want to play with some pros and show skill try here www.iccup.com. That's how you talk big.

QuoteI focus on life to you know.. And yet i can PROVE im way more successful than you. ON REAL LIFE, and ro.. Look at you, your getting so serious of a ro server, getting on ur pally, and dieing to my WS and saying OMG i QUIT... Your nothing but a quitter, a q.qer..a useless emo guy that pretends to be " pro "... When did i say i bought sinX card off a player ? I never said that... Ever... All your doing now is making up shi...

You sure bro? From what I've seen on pumpkinRO you got no life to brag about. All I can see is someone who just talks big without any backing and relies on his mvp cards to make his penis size feel safe. I could learn to play your class within an hour and outplay you at it. I'm new to almost every class I've played here and I can outplay most players, I don't think it's pretend.

QuoteIf im so bad at high wizard, i wana see you try and kill it.. We can make it an official duel, without mvp cards, gms can also monitor it. Pick any class Jorb, sinX ? champ ? Whitesmith ? Pick it, since ur so in love of ro, i wana make your life be successful ( cough )... If you were actually a GOOD ro player u would be known, but sadly ur not, but if it was that way, when ur 25 years old with 2 kids working at burger king ur gona think to urself " s*** man, i shoulve listened to magix and focused on getting a better life, ragnarok ruined my life, im so mad, i took it to serious dammit ~ " ~ Jorb clean up on aisle 5..... Also about my pictures, i posted them for a reason correct  ? Im not shy or scared of posting my pics, i actually got the guts to do so.

Jorb talk about something else than ro bro. Talk about school " DUDE I PASSED MY MATH EXAM WITH A 100% " or " YEEE I JUST GOT LAID " Something interesting, people here, reading this shi, looking at you and LOLOLOLOLing on how serious ur taking this, cause u cant beat me and i spanked ur mom last night all night..Tell her i wont be so rough with her next time will ya ?.. Ops im being mean, now hes gona report me, IM SCARED..

Do me a favor Jorb, accomplish something on life, be successful, then come talk s***..

Funny kid, you lose to me in game with skill and you lose here with intelligence. Shows, since all you can throw at me are some cheap hypocritical no lifer jokes and your mom jokes which are down there at the lowest form of wit. Gave me a good laugh reading it though, cause you sound like a dumb teenage girl trying to diss me out because she can't come up with anything good to say.  Here's some advice: if what you're going to say doesn't show any resemblance of you having at least an inkling of intelligence to throw out at me just keep it inside your tiny brain.. at least then you can try and keep up the image that you're not an idiot. Though, you seem to fit the village idiot personification very well. Keep it up.

Lastly, don't even try to talk s*** about me being too involved into this game. All you seem to be doing is investing your money on Ragnarok Online Private servers... Before too on Limitless you donated for a lot of zeny in game too... How much money have you even invested into this game? Thousands? YOU'RE talking about ME being a loser and living for this game? That's hilarious man, I've never put a cent into this game? Why? Because I'm not a retard who spends all his cash so he can flex his e-peen by being rich on some old game everyone's quitting, I don't even need it... basic gears are fine enough for me to do well enough, unlike you who has how much gear on your High Wizard? Or that +9 slotted ice pick.. that's really not living the game bro.. If you want to talk about futures how about you start putting that money into something useful like a house, new car, or furthering your education.... I'd focus on the latter because it seems like you REALLY NEED ONE.

Oh, I think I know why he's so mad... because of my whole fuss here his SinX card got deleted by the GM staff. It's good to know that because of my minutes of effort you lost real money.

@ KitKatBar. Yeah, he was bragging about it in chat and you say that. I think he just doesn't want his other cards being deleted by the GM Team, because he most likely got them through the same underhanded means.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Atreides on Dec 22, 2010, 09:46 PM
Nothing much to add to this thread. Its quickly turned to a flame thread between players and theres nothing the staff wishes to further address or add. Although, for a level 30 GM I think I might be reaching records for being called a liar and or corrupt, from people who aren't even familiar with the specifics of this issue. I myself and no other member of the GM team has done anything to warrant such accusations. Please understand this before claiming something to the contrary.

All I can tell you is that the staff is not corrupt, and the issue should have been dealt with to my knowledge. I no longer see the card in question, but I have had players send me sarcasm laced PMs about it. If you guys can't trust the staff, don't play the server. We can't force you to believe what we say. Sorry if you feel that way, and we wish you the best of luck if its impossible for you to stay. We have dealt with this issue, and I personally have done all that is within my power. We have not lied or covered anything up. I trust this issue will resolve itself in time, given the nature of the complaint and those who have lodged it. This will be my last post in this thread as I consider my end and part of this issue complete and therefor resolved. If players of pRO have an issues, comments, questions, or other feedback they may contact me on the pRO forums or in-game.

Have a Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Xplicit on Dec 22, 2010, 10:52 PM
Considering you werent around for the original investigation, i dont think you are aware of the specifics of this issue. I find it funny, 2 GM's resigned shortly after the original investigation. A log showing that it was dropped on X map lololol. really?

The SinX card was removed because of this investigation. Someone on the GM team was obviously smart enough to say the others are still legit, otherwise it would have meant the original investigation was s***. (Yes, it was) I was going to laugh if that wasnt thought of though.

PS. You may not be corrupt but you are really naive.

99% of people supporting Magix are guildmates. 99% of people against MVP card removal are guildmates. (There are a couple people that want them to stay. For each their own)

You argue there are counters to MVP cards, so what, there are counters, everyone knows this. That argument only comes from guilds that rely on their advantage to win though, so let me see. If you were truly any good, you wouldnt fcking care because without MVP cards, WoE would be balanced. You claim that you are unbeatable in GvG, but yet when offered a level playing field, you decline. How convenient.

Stop coming up with excuses.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 22, 2010, 11:24 PM
@Atreides: You have no idea whether the GMs are corrupt or not, you've barely joined since the beginning of December. Unless you're telling me you happen to be Malice's girlfriend.

GMs are still refusing to reveal WHO sold the SinX card and HOW they obtained it, when NO ONE CAMPS IT.

I guess Atreides isn't privy to such information, well that or he/she is refusing to disclose it.

The staff apparently only consists of Atreides, since none of the main GMs have said anything (well Malice did reply to this topic, but his post was pointless and just shows his refusal to address the situation). Nipah has been MIA this entire time, you would think the server owner would look more into this matter, but it's only been Atreides. Or, I guess this matter is beneath them as the owners?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 23, 2010, 12:22 AM
its so much fishy that they cant tell who got/obtained the SinX card IF ITS REALLY SOLD TO MAGIX BY OTHER PLAYERS??

why they cant tell?

@Atreides - Trying to protect your precious GM's?another thing, you werent really at the start of PumpkinRO so don't act you know whats happening, if the staff is not corrupt who is?? the website? the control panel? tell me where does the SinX card came from and if it is not corrupt how in the world does they get it??

Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: GOD on Dec 23, 2010, 01:04 AM
What is this my name is being mentioned?
I might as well state things clearly why I kicked you. You started to annoy people. You never play with us.
then you come to town and brag to us how close to you are with the GM's and how geared you are?
You told me you weren't lvling reason for this? You tied your Girlfriend to a chair so she can farm stuff for you? You clearly said to me that you will wait for the GM to be online so he can max you out. And you know why I wanted you be part of us in the beginning? I was hoping that when we all start over you wouldn't be an arrogant prick. Yet you started to annoy people from minute one. After you got kicked nothing happened.
No one would careless if you were part of us or not.

Things you bragged about on limitless
- Your guild was uber pro and would dominate everyone in WoE, BUTTTT thats only as soon as you're geared.
- When Limitless was dying and we were discussing about moving to pumpkin. Someone said that pumpkin staff might be the same as Veero. Do you even remember how you responded to that? You said they're good YOU OFFERED 500 dollars to the Veero staff for a Fallenbishop card.
- Telling us how you get "special treatment" for being a "donator".

I wouldn't careless at the start about all this donation crap why? because yes I realize if people like you wouldnt donate the server would have issues.  But I told you before that doesnt mean you can go around think you're superior compared to others or think trashtalking is legit.

And Jorb wise ? I said I told you I was checking the server out for others. Don't act as if we were buddy buddy from then. I was neutral towards alot of people even you. Yet you kept trashtalking about my friends which ultimately made people gave up on you.

You even continued to do so after joining TITS. Leaving them then saying how trash they are and that they only could do stuff with you ? Man learn to appreciate who you play with if you join these small servers if you want to go all no emotion , trash talk and be an arrogant d*** do what you recommend to other people go join vision RO. You tell everyone on pumpkin to go vision RO yet you still linger on pumpkin yourself. Talk about being an hypocrite.

Even on limitless you posted screens of you being uberly geared on other servers did you also see how others comment?
"you might want to remove the screenshot where your stats are illegit".

Im not saying all your cards are illegit Magix not at all. But claiming that all of them are legit is bullshi-.
Claiming that you have skills? I BG'ed so much do you have any idea how you play your wiz? go fraps yourself. The moment you see someone on your screen no safety wall no quagmire nothing. All you do is panick button stormgust yourself. And what is this crap about you and your friends know how to mvp? You know how much we laughed when you tried to kill SM with a zillion AD Bombs? And You're probably going to say " I CHALLENGE YOU "  waoooo you killed me 3 times in BG afterwards I got used to how to deal with a s*** HW with mvp cards Killed you twice and then what ? you stopped coming ? joining BG at the last sec for free badges so much for your skill.

And to Atreides who are you to talk  ? I've been around this server since the first second. And I was probably more active interacting with Players than you were.  You tell us if we have a problem we should report ?  WE DID. We reported players over and over what was the Pumpkin-staff reaction to it ? "We will investigate it" by other means ignore it. The funny part is we even provide you with video's and all you do is respond "we'll give him a warning".  are you serious? any other good server would ban cheaters. All I see on pumpkin ro is how cheating gets supported.

The only GM's on that server that do their best are Nipah and Muse and they get to work with shi- like you that makes me sad.



Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: LaughingAussie on Dec 23, 2010, 03:08 AM
Quote from: datme on Dec 22, 2010, 07:39 AM
I'd rather have RO overrun by BR's. Atleast their servers have decent WoE's...

Pretty sure Lumina proved that stereotype false. Server run by a BR ... but s*** woe
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 23, 2010, 04:36 AM
QuoteYou even continued to do so after joining TITS. Leaving them then saying how trash they are and that they only could do stuff with you ? Man learn to appreciate who you play with if you join these small servers if you want to go all no emotion , trash talk and be an arrogant d*** do what you recommend to other people go join vision RO. You tell everyone on pumpkin to go vision RO yet you still linger on pumpkin yourself. Talk about being an hypocrite.

You have to actually be good to get into a good guild on VisionRO, I don't think they'd let him in when his BM only has like 5 hot keys.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 08:08 AM
Jorb then again posting " im better than you  " ah but you added " im new on any class and yet im better than everyone ".. You keep ur mouth running automatic, Xplicit, yea, you're right, people trolling here are guildies.

Jorb you said, to invest my money on something else ? New car ? House ? You dont even know how i live, or if im rich or not, you dont know anything about me. If you think your theory is correct, donated thousands on RO, 2k per server, lets see.. Thats 12k spent on ro.

@Devil

I killed your sinX in BG countless times, u said only 3 times, thats s***, i didnt BG to prove something, i BGed for badges not for skill.. Not to mention in woe lmao... Ur sinX was one of the easiest to kill even without magic

I never said tits was trash, all i said is that mvp loot share wasnt " fair " which is why tits basically broke, in the end when most people left it, but sadly you dont know the real story bout tits either. When we talked on BG, you clearly said you dont BG serious, or to kill, ur goal was to get a couple hits on crystal.. VisionRO has good BG, go there if u want core bg. When you kicked me out of guild, you clearly said " because you're in another guild " Cause i didnt log my mage account for days when i was farming with other chars, now all your doing is changing ur story cause u want jorb to butt smex you.


You guys here talk bout skill ? Look at how NF played, they depended on numbers, at first on GvG tits wiped em so hard, NF even recalled and still wiped again, NF depended on cades and 5+ sinX to break emp, as u prob saw, tits never focused on putting up cades, all tits wanted is GvG all day, but u guys always went for emp then set up cades, tits wiped u guys at every defending point so u had to keep going back. Not to mention how bad hyvent used to tell me NF was on euphRO and eternityRO.

Then again your taking this to serious, well all nightfall members better said.. You keep saying get a life its funny, now i gotta brag about my job ? If u had any idea what i do in rl, you would prob understand, study ? School ? Excuse me little kid, i dont go to school anymore, i also know how to wipe my own donkey unlike you,a mama's boy, a school boy, a boy that takes ro serious, all u talk about is ro skill " oh i got super ro skill , it means ima be a millionare when i grow up "..

You can say all you want about ro skill, keep making it seem obious of how retarded you are.. I dont even feel like even answering ur rms bs, all you do is cry 100% about ro, fully read it lol.. I dont take ro serious, but yet someone said its me thats taking it serious, no theres a difference between taking something SERIOUS, and i mean the real meaning of SERIOUS and replying to some random black dude wana be AKA Jorb.. To show him how retarded he is.

So yeah i will throw ro s*** on each reply. Because i want u guys to see how jorb only talks about ro, jorb u should try porn-ro.net man... You been trying to gather muse's attention cause its a girl, cause u get no attention in rl, gotta admit, girls, well most girls dont like black dudes, cause they got huge mouths and smell bad ( jorb )..


Nowdays a girl is gona like you depending on your $$$$... Gold diggas :)...
If NF woulve been a good woe guild i would be honest and say " Yes NF was a good woe guild " But sadly it wasnt, HyVenT, Virtous, Synergy, Nabz, French Kiss... Those are good woe guilds, and if they talked trash bout me RO wise, ill be like, yes... Ur right people, but na, i got this wana be low lifes, Jorb, Devil, and other s*** people who were in a s*** guild, ops ~are~ in a s*** guild and talk s***, ofc ima argue back..

Your saying vRO guilds are hard to get into ? What guild do u want me to get in to so u see i can do it ? Just so u " see "..If you say i suck in ro, well its because, i have a REAL job, and no, i dont mean a minimun wage job which most people have, i mean REAL job.. So no, im not gona focus 100% on ro, taking time to be pro at it, i mean if ro had like 10k + people per server i would at least put more effort.

Buddy ro takes no skill to play.. RO is something u can basically master in 1-2 months if ur dedicated.. Now in ro, i basically dont do anything in pRO but wait for woe or i unno, u guys can see me now afk on amatsu most of the time.... Ask guildies.. Now ur talking trash bout my BM having 5 keys, funny remarks.. I dont quag in woe cause its not my job, all ima do is cast :).. In bg im not gona focus on being " good ". Cause im there for badges, nothing else..Oh i forgot, i can just donate and buy my badges, oh geez, i been wasting time..damn... WHy didnt u tell me ? .OMFG, sec brb 10 mins..

Ok back, got 5k badges. It dont matter what gms use their donation money for, RO servers, yea people expect profit out of it, its like a job, if u know what that even means..What happened to limitless ? :).. GM made some $$$, 7k usd, then said " oh i got no time " then he closed server.. Aint it obious lol..

Devil, as for illegit stats, which illegit stats ? Your talking bout epic when i uploaded the screenie? Had no illegit stats.. But yea you can also flame about that cause it seems u guys r trying hard to put some ro point here.. Funny thing is, what im typing people will read all of it, wont relaize they r wasting their time lol..

As for people that know me here, what job i got, they will understand my point.. Why talk trash bout pRO ? Just quit it, like a real pro, a real pro dont talk trash bout some server, a real pro is like fck it im gone, and he ghosts.. To bad im not a ro PRO, cause its not my goal :D..
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Kyozoku on Dec 23, 2010, 11:27 AM
Quote
Your saying vRO guilds are hard to get into ? What guild do u want me to get in to so u see i can do it ? Just so u " see "..If you say i suck in ro, well its because, i have a REAL job, and no, i dont mean a minimun wage job which most people have, i mean REAL job.. So no, im not gona focus 100% on ro, taking time to be pro at it, i mean if ro had like 10k + people per server i would at least put more effort.

I could personally guarantee that WPE wouldn't even bat an eye at you, All-Stars and NATG would just troll you and then laugh.
Just face it Magix, you're s*** carried by MvP cards. Anyone whose seen you play knows that for a fact.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 23, 2010, 11:46 AM
Nice racism Magix, no wonder no one likes you. And Nightfall wasn't even trying to be the best, we're just a friend guild, so don't start saying s***. It's true though, I don't really see you using real skills.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 23, 2010, 01:48 PM
From what I heard WPE is pretty trash on VisionV2
Heard they wiped at least 20times in 1 woe vs AWSM or GVGMODE
but enough talk about servers with badly thought up features

What are you still QQMAJORBUTTHURT over magix
The Assassin Cross Card in question was deleted

More or less the server quality is what needs to be improved
less appeal to DONATORS and more to WOE ORIENTATED RAGARNOK ONLINE
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 23, 2010, 02:54 PM
@Magix

You're getting pretty mad. Also, I would've never guessed that you didn't go to school anymore. Considering this is a Ragnarok Online forum, one would talk about RO... especially in a topic about a RO server...

I really don't understand how anyone can read all this (I try to look for more intelligible sentences, but needle in the haystack), everyone who tried should be given an award for tolerance and not having a self-induced aneurysm.

@KitKatBar

I'm pretty sure I can say that none of us gives a s*** about Magix, he just happens to be here, because he's related to the GM corruption case (by profiting off of said corruption, his name could be easily replaced).

Sure, the card was deleted, all the other illegit cards weren't, Magix wasn't even banned for doing real money trading, when both parties are usually banned for that. GMs won't tell us HOW or WHO obtained said SINX card, which is highly suspicious and shows there's way more to it than just that crappy investigation. Apparently, GMs didn't even give Magix a final warning, when they said they would (even when it should be BAN). Server quality will never go up if GMs are corrupt and incompetent. The GMs already showed that they still cater to donators by giving Magix a very lenient warning (that apparently he doesn't know about!).
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 03:35 PM
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3548/remianigah.png) (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/remianigah.png/)

Says ANOTHER black dude from Nightfall... How sad, everyone can see they only ones trolling are blacks.. Stupid wana be's AND in nightfall.. Fail..
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 23, 2010, 03:39 PM
I'm not just black, and even if I was white or black it wouldn't make a difference, just proves you're being racist again. And for you to go all the way to find my picture is pretty sad too. Once again, no wonder no one likes you.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Sway on Dec 23, 2010, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Xiazo on Dec 21, 2010, 01:43 PM
you people expected anything less from Veee?
^ topic
http://servut.us/akq/veero-corruption (http://servut.us/akq/veero-corruption)

Just wait till he opens squishyRO, it'll all work out fine and he'll stop being corrupt, I promise ~^_^~
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 04:54 PM
I never played RO to be liked or loved  ::).. Your color says it all bro  :o.. Not to mention the s*** guild u were in .. ima say one thing  /bawi KKK  /bawi Beat it.. " Im not just black " .. Skin color says it all . Dont matter what race ur mixed in with, ur black, AND a NF member. Enough said  ::).. More phew phew less Q.Q.. Go get a gf, i kno its hard for you black mofos.. But i wish you luck. Stop playing ro, it makes u rage, focus on life..  /bawi
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 Racism is not allowed on this board.
5 day warn
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 23, 2010, 05:14 PM
QuoteJorb then again posting " im better than you  " ah but you added " im new on any class and yet im better than everyone ".. You keep ur mouth running automatic, Xplicit, yea, you're right, people trolling here are guildies.

Jorb you said, to invest my money on something else ? New car ? House ? You dont even know how i live, or if im rich or not, you dont know anything about me. If you think your theory is correct, donated thousands on RO, 2k per server, lets see.. Thats 12k spent on ro.
Better than trash talking about how you're better than everyone without actually proving it. Oh hey, let me panick use SG over myself in PvP. No quag, no safety wall, nothing. It's funny how a sinx with no buffs can kill you when you're standing still.

QuoteI killed your sinX in BG countless times, u said only 3 times, thats s***, i didnt BG to prove something, i BGed for badges not for skill.. Not to mention in woe lmao... Ur sinX was one of the easiest to kill even without magic
Not hard to kill someone when you JT them for 6k, something you even do in WoE which is just dumb. I've also seen you chase halfway across a screen without a paladin following you, you're real pro man. I should fraps more often to show how good you are.

QuoteI never said tits was trash, all i said is that mvp loot share wasnt " fair " which is why tits basically broke, in the end when most people left it, but sadly you dont know the real story bout tits either. When we talked on BG, you clearly said you dont BG serious, or to kill, ur goal was to get a couple hits on crystal.. VisionRO has good BG, go there if u want core bg. When you kicked me out of guild, you clearly said " because you're in another guild " Cause i didnt log my mage account for days when i was farming with other chars, now all your doing is changing ur story cause u want jorb to butt smex you.
Bro, if you look outside your guild that's sucking your d*** for hookups you'll actually find that nobody on the server likes you. A fail womanizing douchebag prick like you is only going to be friends with people who want to use him.

QuoteYou guys here talk bout skill ? Look at how NF played, they depended on numbers, at first on GvG tits wiped em so hard, NF even recalled and still wiped again, NF depended on cades and 5+ sinX to break emp, as u prob saw, tits never focused on putting up cades, all tits wanted is GvG all day, but u guys always went for emp then set up cades, tits wiped u guys at every defending point so u had to keep going back. Not to mention how bad hyvent used to tell me NF was on euphRO and eternityRO.
You sure about that? Your guild had even if not more members. Also we are a casual guild with no planned roster, funny thing is though... That one WoE we actually prepared for with a balanced roster you guys pussied out and quit the server. I guess you guys wanted to keep your whole "Oh, we're superior at GvG" image.

QuoteThen again your taking this to serious, well all nightfall members better said.. You keep saying get a life its funny, now i gotta brag about my job ? If u had any idea what i do in rl, you would prob understand, study ? School ? Excuse me little kid, i dont go to school anymore, i also know how to wipe my own donkey unlike you,a mama's boy, a school boy, a boy that takes ro serious, all u talk about is ro skill " oh i got super ro skill , it means ima be a millionare when i grow up "..
Go ahead, going to brag about the welfare you get? I'm guessing from the way you portray yourself you didn't get much of an education and don't work at a job that requires some level of maturity. RO isn't about skill, it's about who gets the most gears, and the most people. Skill just helps, shows a lot in PvP and BG where you do so poorly without the backing of your entire guild. I bet you don't even have a sight/hide accessory hotkeyed, or safety wall for that matter since all you do is precast like you're in FE and and just flop and die when you get dispelled / lose devo.

QuoteYou can say all you want about ro skill, keep making it seem obious of how retarded you are.. I dont even feel like even answering ur rms bs, all you do is cry 100% about ro, fully read it lol.. I dont take ro serious, but yet someone said its me thats taking it serious, no theres a difference between taking something SERIOUS, and i mean the real meaning of SERIOUS and replying to some random black dude wana be AKA Jorb.. To show him how retarded he is.
Sure, you don't take it serious bro, that's why you're on here talking smack when you got those amazing cars, houses, women and money all over the place. Or why you're always on hunting MvP cards (If you even actually farmed for them.) So you're saying you bought the cards from the staff? Or are you a no lifer who actually hunted the mvp cards, which is it?

QuoteSo yeah i will throw ro s*** on each reply. Because i want u guys to see how jorb only talks about ro, jorb u should try porn-ro.net man... You been trying to gather muse's attention cause its a girl, cause u get no attention in rl, gotta admit, girls, well most girls dont like black dudes, cause they got huge mouths and smell bad ( jorb )..

Nowdays a girl is gona like you depending on your $$$$... Gold diggas Smiley...
If NF woulve been a good woe guild i would be honest and say " Yes NF was a good woe guild " But sadly it wasnt, HyVenT, Virtous, Synergy, Nabz, French Kiss... Those are good woe guilds, and if they talked trash bout me RO wise, ill be like, yes... Ur right people, but na, i got this wana be low lifes, Jorb, Devil, and other s*** people who were in a s*** guild, ops ~are~ in a s*** guild and talk s***, ofc ima argue back..
Don't lump me in with your own personal experiences, girls are probably only going to like you for your money because you obviously don't have any other redeeming qualities as a man. Just hope you got enough money to make her ignore what an annoying prick you are, and maybe a little left over so you can buy some friends. Did we ever say we were a pro woe guild like those guys? No, day one we've been a casual guild of friends. You guys are the leftovers of guilds like that who automatically assume because you were in those guilds you're good yourselves, when it's actually leadership and core members that make a difference, not you extras who got in cause they need to fill some slots. Only thing we bragged about is how we fought you guys evenly when you were a hardcore WoE oriented guild and we were a casual guild (Btw, you guys had more numbers... don't even try to lie about it.)

You're calling us low lives? You've made it to every WoE, you're always on farming badges, you "apparently" farmed several miniboss and mvp cards for months, you're usually ALWAYS ON. Stop pretending like you're such a great person on these forums when you're probably a no lifer like you've been calling us living and breathing RO. I think that's why you're taking this so seriously, when we're making you look bad. Did somebody get bullied as a kid? Or maybe mommy and daddy didn't love you? Might explain why you need to have this flawless image of being so great and why you're trying so hard to defend it. Meanwhile I'm just having fun watching you make yourself out to be a jackass while your buddies try to help.

QuoteYour saying vRO guilds are hard to get into ? What guild do u want me to get in to so u see i can do it ? Just so u " see "..If you say i suck in ro, well its because, i have a REAL job, and no, i dont mean a minimun wage job which most people have, i mean REAL job.. So no, im not gona focus 100% on ro, taking time to be pro at it, i mean if ro had like 10k + people per server i would at least put more effort.
Really, let's see what guild you're on in vro2 bro. Since you've been saying about how awesome you are in that you're in the best guild. Go apply for AWSM or GVG and show me when you get accepted. Hey, Maybe I'll try applying too we'll make it a competition.

QuoteBuddy ro takes no skill to play.. RO is something u can basically master in 1-2 months if ur dedicated.. Now in ro, i basically dont do anything in pRO but wait for woe or i unno, u guys can see me now afk on amatsu most of the time.... Ask guildies.. Now ur talking trash bout my BM having 5 keys, funny remarks.. I dont quag in woe cause its not my job, all ima do is cast Smiley.. In bg im not gona focus on being " good ". Cause im there for badges, nothing else..Oh i forgot, i can just donate and buy my badges, oh geez, i been wasting time..damn... WHy didnt u tell me ? .OMFG, sec brb 10 mins..
RO requires no skill to play? I guess that's a truth when you're playing. You say all this s*** about playing with pros and how you're on visionro 2 and we should come so we can get owned by you and your super amazing guild. If you had some truth to what you were saying and weren't a bull s*** liar trying to make himself look so pro you wouldn't even say that. Unlike you, I've actually played with and against pro guilds and acknowledge that a lot of their players are much more skilled than me and it does make a difference. If you actually played a game that requires skill like Starcraft 2 like you were gloating about earlier, you'd know to be a pro you have to be able to micro and macro which involves awareness of surroundings while building and controlling multiple units at once, concentration and being able to effectively and quickly use hotkeys correctly at the right time; a skill / talent that goes into RO too, but since you hit like 4 buttons and precast SG you wouldn't know bro . Your previous statement about a good woe guild trash talking you and you not saying s***, yeah right. I bet even if the best WoE guild out there owned your guild you'd still be talking this same s***, or use your "OH I GOT A REAL LIFE MAN IM SO COOL WITH MY AWESOME JOB" card.

QuoteAs for people that know me here, what job i got, they will understand my point.. Why talk trash bout pRO ? Just quit it, like a real pro, a real pro dont talk trash bout some server, a real pro is like fck it im gone, and he ghosts.. To bad im not a ro PRO, cause its not my goal Cheesy..

You know what you sound like? When I was 12 this kid and I would talk about how much s*** we had to see who had the bigger metaphorical d*** and was better. That's what you sound like, all you're saying is "I Got job I am Gr8 with my real life" Yeah right bro, and you're telling me to quit it now like a pro? I thought I was some wannabe loser failure who was bad at ro and real life? Sorry man, can't do it. Maybe you should quit it, not because you're a pro but because you're letting everyone on this forum know what kind of trash you really are.

QuoteI never played RO to be liked or loved  Roll Eyes.. Your color says it all bro  Shocked.. Not to mention the s*** guild u were in .. ima say one thing  Rock Emote KKK  Rock Emote Beat it.. " Im not just black " .. Skin color says it all . Dont matter what race ur mixed in with, ur black, AND a NF member. Enough said  Roll Eyes.. More phew phew less Q.Q.. Go get a gf, i kno its hard for you black mofos.. But i wish you luck. Stop playing ro, it makes u rage, focus on life..  Rock Emote

Just reinforcing my point, keep letting the world know what kind of racist, arrogant douchebag you really are.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Wyvern on Dec 23, 2010, 05:23 PM
Does it look like I'm raging? I'm perfectly normal and calm. Focus on life? I think you should be doing that. And don't talk like you know our lives.

I won't be talking on the RMS forums anymore since I don't want to disrespect any forum rules if I have done so already and I also plan to actually enjoy my christmas with my family and not waste my time posting against players who thinks are the best.

So, Merry Christmas everyone, hopefully all issues in PumpkinRO will get resolved soon.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 05:33 PM
Quote from: Remia on Dec 23, 2010, 05:23 PM
Does it look like I'm raging? I'm perfectly normal and calm. Focus on life? I think you should be doing that. And don't talk like you know my life.

I won't be talking on the RMS forums anymore since I don't want to disrespect any forum rules if I have done so already and I also plan to actually enjoy my christmas with my family and not waste my time posting against players who thinks are the best.

So, Merry Christmas everyone, hopefully all issues in PumpkinRO will get resolved soon.

Merry xmas to :).. Sorry for all the insults n shi, just so u kno i neva tried to be pro.. Ima stop the trash talking, sd for Jorb, jesus crist, lol im not gona read that lol.. Im so lazed up, talk all the crap u want, no one cares lol.. You hate pRO so much, bye bye..

So everyone have a good xmas, now get drunk and drive ;).. Ima stop the flaming
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 23, 2010, 05:41 PM
Quote from: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 05:33 PM
Merry xmas to :).. Sorry for all the insults n shi, just so u kno i neva tried to be pro.. Ima stop the trash talking, sd for Jorb, jesus crist, lol im not gona read that lol.. Im so lazed up, talk all the crap u want, no one cares lol.. You hate pRO so much, bye bye..

So everyone have a good xmas, now get drunk and drive ;).. Ima stop the flaming

That was the most insincere apology ever.

Anyway you never answered how you got the cards if you didn't trade real money for them.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 23, 2010, 05:44 PM
QuoteMerry xmas to Smiley.. Sorry for all the insults n shi, just so u kno i neva tried to be pro.. Ima stop the trash talking, sd for Jorb, jesus crist, lol im not gona read that lol.. Im so lazed up, talk all the crap u want, no one cares lol.. You hate pRO so much, bye bye..

So everyone have a good xmas, now get drunk and drive Wink.. Ima stop the flaming
It's cool, I understand you can't keep up intellectually against me in an argument. Points for trying to make yourself look better by "taking the highroad", even though you're a racist prick. If you try to read the s*** you say towards women and people of different skin color you might actually realize why you got kicked from Outlaws and why most people detest you. Since we're friends and community over winning WoE anyday.

Now I'm gonna go fix my computer, using a web browser and msn from my motherboard's built in splash top is getting old.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 05:54 PM
Quote from: Jorb on Dec 23, 2010, 05:44 PM
QuoteMerry xmas to Smiley.. Sorry for all the insults n shi, just so u kno i neva tried to be pro.. Ima stop the trash talking, sd for Jorb, jesus crist, lol im not gona read that lol.. Im so lazed up, talk all the crap u want, no one cares lol.. You hate pRO so much, bye bye..

So everyone have a good xmas, now get drunk and drive Wink.. Ima stop the flaming
It's cool, I understand you can't keep up intellectually against me in an argument. Points for trying to make yourself look better by "taking the highroad", even though you're a racist prick. If you try to read the s*** you say towards women and people of different skin color you might actually realize why you got kicked from Outlaws and why most people detest you. Since we're friends and community over winning WoE anyday.

Now I'm gonna go fix my computer, using a web browser and msn from my motherboard's built in splash top is getting old.

Alright, good luck.. Sorry for all the shi, anywho, im not gona say how i got em .. Lol... I rather keep it the way it is, people making rumors its aight.. Anywhoo take care peps
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 23, 2010, 06:28 PM
Quote from: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 05:54 PM
Alright, good luck.. Sorry for all the shi, anywho, im not gona say how i got em .. Lol... I rather keep it the way it is, people making rumors its aight.. Anywhoo take care peps

Alright, conclusion is corrupt GMs either way.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Kyozoku on Dec 23, 2010, 06:36 PM
A guido trying to talk s*** about black people? Now I've seen it all.
Can we just ban Magix already?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 23, 2010, 06:50 PM
Oh wow at VeeRO screenshots

I doubt they'll ban him let alone admit @iteming MVP/miniboss cards

Doubt they even deleted the sinx card at that

no proof from these clowns at that
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 23, 2010, 11:31 PM

ohai btw they don't tell where/who the SINX card came from and if they weren't corrupt why delete it??
im still curious where did he get it?? and the other MvP card is bought with real money too ryt???

and in their rules any real money trading is perma ban w/o warning,but i don't see him being banned?
are their rules fail or just their server fail?
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Real_Magix on Dec 24, 2010, 05:32 AM
Quote from: Kyozoku on Dec 23, 2010, 06:36 PM
A guido trying to talk s*** about black people? Now I've seen it all.
Can we just ban Magix already?

Q.Q some more  :D.. I wont get banned,  not all servers work the same way.. SinX card was deleted, people that want proof Lol.. They just want yet another reason to troll, proof to you 12-15 year olds wont do much, u think server is corrupt, keep it to your self, or you can keep crying bout it all day like u been doing. Keep raging bout 2 mvp and 1 mini boss.. Lol.. Pple think i got gr, gtb + develing, i dont have them.. Gms have already checked my accounts..

And im sure if i wouldve had em, they wouldve gotten removed to.. You rage at me, but yet u dont rage at the guy who has gtb which is considered the " best " or one of the best cards on server, its the counter of fbh.. Lol.. Pple just look for even more reasons to q.q.. How funny.. MvP cards dont matter, what matters is how good WoE competition is, if u guys think banning 1 guy with x2 mvp and x1 mini boss would make woe better and server grow ur totally wrong lol..But i wana see more pple rage bout this, i find it funny lol.. But hey, give me 300 usd and ill ask for a perman ban myself  ;)
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: 360flip on Dec 24, 2010, 07:22 AM
oww man you still dont answer where does SiNX card came from...?? and if its legit why it is deleted?
and if you buy real card for real money...it is againts the rules isnt it??
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Ganondorf on Dec 24, 2010, 07:54 AM
Quote from: 360flip on Dec 24, 2010, 07:22 AM
oww man you still dont answer where does SiNX card came from...?? and if its legit why it is deleted?
and if you buy real card for real money...it is againts the rules isnt it??

The Assassin Cross Card most likely came from either Malice or Nipah.  Which one it was doesn't really matter anymore.  The way that they're covering up the situation by throwing that incompetent GM into the mix only to poorly defend their server only makes it 100% obvious that the server is corrupt.

Anyways, Merry Christmas and simply avoid the server in my opinion.  There really isn't much else to be said.  As Malice already refused to answer.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Sway on Dec 24, 2010, 08:09 AM
Quote from: Ganondorf on Dec 24, 2010, 07:54 AM
The Assassin Cross Card most likely came from either Malice or Nipah.  Which one it was doesn't really matter anymore.  The way that they're covering up the situation by throwing that incompetent GM into the mix only to poorly defend their server only makes it 100% obvious that the server is corrupt.

Already thought I saw that before...


Quote from: Fragrance on Jun 07, 2010, 03:35 AM
gm vee sell me some strong mvp cards diablos set and +50 all stat i think i spent $2000 to his server,after few weeks he ban my ip address and delete my game account and forums account.

Quote from: veeeee on Jun 07, 2010, 04:04 AM
Reason u got banned is because there were corrupt GM issues and i don't want any drama for removing you, lol. This was totally my fault.
Though it has now been rectified by removing your accounts and your money being returned.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Kaleano on Dec 24, 2010, 10:31 AM
Oh noes!  A corrupt GM staff, thats new and unusual!

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I can't believe this discussion has gone on to 8 pages.  Like we haven't seen corrupt GMs before. O-o
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Relics on Dec 24, 2010, 10:49 AM
I guess because there was a long break of 'no drama' on rms
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Cinnehmon on Dec 24, 2010, 03:46 PM
ya, too bad no one on the server knows about the case here =/ i made a quit topic saying i'm leaving cause of gm corruption and linking to this thread, atreides even replied, but as soon as malice got on my topic was deleted ^____^

so, i was pretty excited this server at first, gms seemed nice and everything. i even won a guild map for my guild, which malice hosted on halloween, but i didn't get the damn map until 1 month later... i did want old payon (which i sent to like 3 different gms, and each gm kept telling me they didn't have it, until they finally did it), but i told them i'd take their pre-made ones since it was taking forever

sorry for that mini rant. oh, as GOD said, our guild reported no-delay arrow shower MULTIPLE TIMES (WITH PROOF IN FRAPS MIND YOU) about one character in Magix's guild cTown, but he never got banned. they always said "we warned him" or "we will investigate" -___- not to mention, atreides was in one of those woes, watching the stupid no-delay arrow shower and doing nothing because they're incompetent.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 24, 2010, 05:04 PM
If your talking about Ctown lmaodelaying with AS your full of crap and don't know your RO
He was zerk pitched and knows how to build a sniper properly for good spam
He did actually get banned by some retarded GM and later unbanned during the same woe after marl called him on his garbage


I like how the admin replied to the 20-40 rating reviews just the idiot trying to debunk claims of giving out @items when VeeRO screeshots already show proof of the same idiot handing junk out, also tries to claim the population is growing when its just more merchents @go 31 vending

IDK they'll learn once more people start quitting and learning the truth about this trash GM team they'll have a right of mind to stop playing there
more or less they'll prolly just open up another garbage server and pull the same old crap


Corrupt GMs giving out free items to players NOWAI
not like this is the first time this happened

@Kaleano people are just butthurt they wasted so much time on the on the server with this slow incompetent GM team
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Kaleano on Dec 24, 2010, 10:54 PM
Yeah I know what you mean, putting so much effort into something so meaningless in the end.
But I mean honestly, its a game.  And I get you're wasting your time and blah blah but I mean what do you expect from PRIVATE servers? 

:|

I never expect much to be honest with you, i'd love to see a great PRIVATE server with no gm corruption or favoritism.  But guess what, that will never exist haha.  ><

-Shrugs-  Pretty interesting drama on this page though.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: MeowyMeow on Dec 25, 2010, 08:17 AM
Quote from: Zenais on Dec 23, 2010, 06:28 PM
Quote from: Real_Magix on Dec 23, 2010, 05:54 PM
Alright, good luck.. Sorry for all the shi, anywho, im not gona say how i got em .. Lol... I rather keep it the way it is, people making rumors its aight.. Anywhoo take care peps

Alright, conclusion is corrupt GMs either way.


enough, hos them
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Cinnehmon on Dec 25, 2010, 06:35 PM
Quote from: KitKatBar on Dec 24, 2010, 05:04 PM
If your talking about Ctown lmaodelaying with AS your full of crap and don't know your RO
He was zerk pitched and knows how to build a sniper properly for good spam
He did actually get banned by some retarded GM and later unbanned during the same woe after marl called him on his garbage


I like how the admin replied to the 20-40 rating reviews just the idiot trying to debunk claims of giving out @items when VeeRO screeshots already show proof of the same idiot handing junk out, also tries to claim the population is growing when its just more merchents @go 31 vending

IDK they'll learn once more people start quitting and learning the truth about this trash GM team they'll have a right of mind to stop playing there
more or less they'll prolly just open up another garbage server and pull the same old crap


Corrupt GMs giving out free items to players NOWAI
not like this is the first time this happened

@Kaleano people are just butthurt they wasted so much time on the on the server with this slow incompetent GM team

wtf seriously? arrow shower is animation delay that is set, zerk pitch only affects aspd not taking out frames of sprites. go on test server and see for yourself
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: datme on Dec 26, 2010, 04:24 PM
^Unfortunately after the aftercast delay ASPD does come in matter to reduce delay.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Jorb on Dec 26, 2010, 11:23 PM
Quote^Unfortunately after the aftercast delay ASPD does come in matter to reduce delay.

QuoteInsert Quote
If your talking about Ctown lmaodelaying with AS your full of crap and don't know your RO
He was zerk pitched and knows how to build a sniper properly for good spam
He did actually get banned by some retarded GM and later unbanned during the same woe after marl called him on his garbage

If you're trying to talking s*** defending someone's cheating when you don't know anything about the class and skill mechanics keep your mouth shut instead, because when someone who does know what they're talking about comes along you'll look like an idiot.

Arrow shower is almost completely fixed, after cast delay reductions and aspd for animation delay don't affect it that much if at all. It will go through the entire animation of the sniper pulling back his bow and firing arrows, unlike double strafing it won't be reduced big time because you upped your aspd.

Here's some proof, I made a short video of my sniper with 141 ASPD and 195 ASPD using arrow shower.... Using berserk potion pitcher really does make a difference!!!111!11 :O :O :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUHFx_t0HI

The only way to effectively fire arrow shower faster is if you cheat by deleting the animation frames of him firing off the bow, in which case this happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqGa3PJNKfc

No wonder ctown was using arrow shower so fast his sprite wouldn't even fully go through the entire animation, Must've been one hell of a berserk potion. :P


Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 27, 2010, 02:48 PM
Jorb you are trash at sniper and really butthurt (http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5926/failly.jpg)
ProPlayer
Your sniper ingame is almost nonexistant because you drop so fast


Go pm ctown for a sniper build, im sure he is welcome to help baddies like you get better at RO so we can at least have some form of woe competition
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: MeowyMeow on Dec 28, 2010, 04:13 AM
woe comp is literally inexistant on pumpkinro or w/e server those 2 admins run, it's awful.

not advertising or anything but apparently mRO right now which started much later than this bunch of s*** admins has mroe guilds/more comp than pumpkin.

bunch of trash team, and people who do not know how 2 RO
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: piperz on Dec 28, 2010, 03:49 PM
(http://photobucket.com/albums/kk187/patrocks6303/screenpumpkinRO011.jpg)

here's a screenshot taken by a friend of mine. The server was 5 days old that time when he got this screenie of "someone" who has all these gears.. notice the +7 Nimble Orleans Glove. This has already been posted on forum 5 days after the server opened but it got deleted after idk? 5 hours? GMs claimed that the +7 on the Orleans Glove was a display bug, not even sure if it was true.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 28, 2010, 04:07 PM
We already got screenshots of the GM admin handing out stuff on another server under pretty much the same administration
mfw lmaodisplaybug

its obvious that they aren't going to come out and say they've been @iteming -@refineing things for donators we already got screenshots that say otherwise
And the way they dance around the subject or close-delete threads adds to the fire
Best bet is to tell people to not play here
Little obvious that they are handing out cards since 1 person has 7miniboss/mvp cards on a 0.01% drop rate on a server thats been opened for 3months
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Faint on Dec 30, 2010, 10:39 PM
I read through 9 pages and all I got was

- Nipah/Malice was never to be seen
- Magix still bragging and talking shi- when he relies on pixel-bought cards.
- Atreides covering up the wreck
- Magix has no education ( refer to his posts and his tl;dr csb essays ) making his arguments a comedy scene
- Jorb/Remia > Magix
- Fagix



So basically here, I quoted Magix saying he didn't buy the Assassin Cross card

Quote from: Real_MagixI focus on life to you know.. And yet i can PROVE im way more successful than you. ON REAL LIFE, and ro.. Look at you, your getting so serious of a ro server, getting on ur pally, and dieing to my WS and saying OMG i QUIT... Your nothing but a quitter, a q.qer..a useless emo guy that pretends to be " pro "... When did i say i bought sinX card off a player ? I never said that... Ever... All your doing now is making up shi...





Here it's quoted from GM Atreides ( Pretty sure Malice or Nipah made him/her post this ) *right click/view image for larger picture.



Get Exposed
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Zenais on Dec 31, 2010, 03:31 PM
Unfortunately I don't know how to get this thing HoSed.

I quoted Magix earlier before, Atreides' reply was that he/she thought that the GMs already took care of it or will take care of it. Magix himself then said he would not say if he bought it or not to keep the mystery/rumors up. Good going for both parties.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Viewer on Dec 31, 2010, 07:22 PM
Just stop posting in this damned topic for god's sake.

It has already proven that the server is corrupt.

1)The people who camped the bio MVP's never got the card.
2)The Sinx card was bought with real money from a player who never got the card.
3)Magix and the GM's won;t admit from where the card came.
4)Why the Sinx card was deleted if it was obtained legitimately ?

6) Bla bla bla. Close the thread.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Dec 31, 2010, 10:01 PM
Quote from: Viewer on Dec 31, 2010, 07:22 PM
Keep bashing them for god's sake.

It has already proven that the server is corrupt around 5 pages ago.

1)The people who camped the bio MVP's never got the card.
2)The Sinx card was bought with real money from an admin who @item'd the card.
3)Magix and the GM's are chickenpuss to post any evidence that anything was done about from where the card came.
4)The Sinx card was not deleted.

6) Bla bla bla. Close the thread.
There we go
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: DeadOwnz on Jan 01, 2011, 02:14 AM
Dam, i was thinking of join this server too. But reading this i think it would be a good idea to close this.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: KitKatBar on Jan 02, 2011, 02:29 PM
Quote from: DeadOwnz on Jan 01, 2011, 02:14 AM
Dam, i was thinking of join this server too. But reading this i think it would be a good idea to close this.
Yeah YC needs to close this thread
We already got all the information and proof that we need to EXPOSE this team of idiots for being corrupt
And the fact that they close/delete threads asking for proof as well as dancing around the subject with long paragraphs from that puppet GM adds to it
Best bet is to refer anyone interested in joining PumpkinRO to this thread as well as post it for others to see so they quit or don't play at all.
Forums are being run by Nazi's basically deleting anything that shames them or puts truth out into the open.
I feel bad for anyone wasting time on this server let alone any money donated to them.
Title: Re: Pumpkin RO
Post by: Relics on Jan 03, 2011, 09:18 AM
Make a thread suitable for report in the HoS, or server discussion if you feel you have enough proof.

Closing this for now