I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this but I think it should be reported as it happens with many servers. OriginalRO has stolen content from PureRO by copy-pasting text and images. I believe this should be reported so that OriginalRO starts making original posts instead of taking it from other servers. Proof is seen below.
Just looking at the two posts it is apparent that the information is copied. They look strangely similar. The first post is that done by Helios of PureRO and the second is done by Admin of OriginalRO. The original PureRO topic is located here: http://www.pure-ro.net/forums/index.php?/topic/982-episode-141-bifrost/ (http://www.pure-ro.net/forums/index.php?/topic/982-episode-141-bifrost/) OriginalRO's stolen topic is here: http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/138-episode-141-bifrost/ (http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/138-episode-141-bifrost/)
(http://i.imgur.com/c3I4Li3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/c6Ta2Gd.png)
To further prove that they copy-pasted I checked the source of originalRO's forums. They used the exact same images and didn't bother re-uploading or anything. All images are the same as used by PureRO and you can see PureRO's website in the code as well for the pictures they did not upload to imgur.
(http://i.imgur.com/ecH8vhz.png)
It seems that there is more. I found out that they're also using IntenseRO's images (http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/) after searching for some topics.
Evidence:
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Kj1PXb7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dpFt3ph.jpg)
The thing is - They had authorization for that? Using bandwidth of someone's server is already bad but in PureRO's case is the text too which looks terribad :s
Implying there's any original server nowadays. Every new server will always copy out older server that has proven to be lasting long, assuming them popular.
Also, I don't think any server owner would let other server owners to use their stuffs though, especially without permission (looking at how they don't even bother changing source site and just dump other servers' stuff on their own place). And hey I don't see "Original"RO asked for permission. Just going "oh let's dump all the good things from other popular servers we take the best and combine it so we'll become the bestest hurr".
What an ironic name for a server.
I'm already starting to imagine Elias' responses with his big red caps.
My god. OFFICIAL EPISODE INFO CONTENT HAS BEEN COPIED. THIS SERVER MUST BE s*** NOW, right?
Guys grow up. You are talking about gravitys property here and how some admins display it. Jesus christ. If he was stealing custom content id understand you guys. But you are making pointless drama over official content every one uses. The term "original" has nothing to do with it. Jesus Christ.
Im sure mr pure RO admin copied all of this from official forums/Websites aswell. Please get a clue.
dat 1 post and form of posting, stop hiding to newly created accounts /heh
The problem isn't if the server is s*** or not, nobody saying that, what is being point here is that they decided to get something well made into their forums and usually, around here, people ask others to remove or change it because it's a shame to having to resource to that. If they've authorization for that, no problem with it, everything is clarified.
In another topic, I did as you said and decided to search if PureRO really did copied their text/images from somewhere and found out that CycloneRO (http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/index.php?/topic/179-episode-141-bifrost/) also have this and I can't find out a place from where PureRO copied their text. The only thing "copied" is that the images used in the topic are edited versions of the stuff related that episode. If you've a source about what you're claiming, post it and the topic shall be closed since it's clarified that everybody used the same official source.
Related to the PureRO's text. It seems that Original and Cyclone actually made changes on the text because they changed PureRO to OriginalRO and CycloneRO to fit their servers.
QuoteAs in the previous episode, PureRO does not introduce any new equipment but rather equipment boxes which contain an assortment of equipment already available. Included in this is is ammunition such as Elven Arrows which are also not available. Players will still be able to obtain Mora Coins from quests as well as many ETC items from monsters.
QuoteAs in the previous episode, OriginalRO does not introduce any new equipment but rather equipment boxes which contain an assortment of equipment already available. Included in this is is ammunition such as Elven Arrows which are also not available. Players will still be able to obtain Mora Coins from quests as well as many ETC items from monsters.
QuoteAs in the previous episode, CycloneRO does not introduce any new equipment but rather equipment boxes which contain an assortment of equipment already available. Included in this is is ammunition such as Elven Arrows which are also not available. Players will still be able to obtain Mora Coins from quests as well as many ETC items from monsters.
Note - CycloneRO is known to be another server of OriginalRO's admin.
@Triper
Is it possible that the 2 admin knew each other or they have the same web/forum designer? /heh
Nobody from PureRO are posting in here. Is it a bad or good thing? /hmm
The PureRO community has been made aware of this post only a few hours ago. I only discovered it because the topic title was amusing. Needless to say I was rather surprised when I found out the post involved a server (PureRO) I had just joined. As far as I know our head admin is aware of the situation but has yet to comment on it.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 09, 2014, 09:24 PM
@Triper
Is it possible that the 2 admin knew each other or they have the same web/forum designer? /heh
That's a possibility that I also considered but there is no answer from both sides until now.
QuoteThe thing is - They had authorization for that?
QuoteIf they've authorization for that, no problem with it, everything is clarified.
^ This is what I asked in my previous comments but nobody answered about it yet.
PureRO Owner here.
This was brought to my attention not too long ago as someone has posted it to our forums as well. We did not give OriginalRO or CycloneRO any permission to use our text or images. Triper is correct, the main image used was done using the same Bifrost image that appears in nearly every mention of the episode. The other images use sprites and mini-map images. We did not draw these images but have edited them to our liking which is what most servers do, so I have no problem with that. This is obviously copied and is using the same exact edited images from our site.
There should be no question as to who's text that belongs to between PureRO, OriginalRO, and CycloneRO. "Equipment boxes which contain an assortment of equipment already available" is pretty unique to PureRO so I'm surprised that they didn't bother removing that text (unless they also made custom equipment box items like ours). Notice how the post dates from CycloneRO and OriginalRO are posted on dates after we've posted ours? Besides, from Triper's post it looks like they didn't just copy from us but from IntenseRO as well.
In short, I'm not the Admin of OriginalRO or CycloneRO and did not give either of them permission to use any of our images or text. I wouldn't be surprised if IntenseRO did not give them permission as well.
cant believe you guys are so uptight bout somrthing that isnt originally urs in the first place. sounds like a bunch of hyprocrites to me, sorry...
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 09, 2014, 10:22 PM
cant believe you guys are so uptight bout somrthing that isnt originally urs in the first place. sounds like a bunch of hyprocrites to me, sorry...
Can't believe people can't write text to their own server instead of being a buncha lazy asshats and copying simple text instead of taking 2 seconds to write up their own. Wonder what else is copied. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, what server isn't copying another it seems like.
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 09, 2014, 11:25 PM
Can't believe people can't write text to their own server instead of being a buncha lazy asshats and copying simple text instead of taking 2 seconds to write up their own. Wonder what else is copied. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, what server isn't copying another it seems like.
^ I don't understand it either. It really doesn't take that long to put the Episode in your own words. I don't understand copying the text, formatting, and images.
Besides, I'm not really making a big deal about it. I understand that there's a lot of similar content between servers, especially artwork/images and text from official servers. But copy-pasting from private servers without even bothering to upload your own images (The IntenseRO sprite images) or write a paragraph on your own is very very lazy.
Quote from: MrMystery on Jan 10, 2014, 12:42 AM
But copy-pasting from private servers without even bothering to upload your own images (The IntenseRO sprite images) or write a paragraph on your own is very very lazy.
^ Because the amount of effort and joy you put into your server tells how many actual f*** you give about it. It's really a shame because OriginalRO has actually a lot of potential, I would come back if I wasn't banned. But being this lazy is just so top-tier.
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 09, 2014, 10:22 PM
cant believe you guys are so uptight bout somrthing that isnt originally urs in the first place. sounds like a bunch of hyprocrites to me, sorry...
Sorry not sorry. BRO DO YOU EVEN INGLES.
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 09, 2014, 10:22 PM
cant believe you guys are so uptight bout somrthing that isnt originally urs in the first place. sounds like a bunch of hyprocrites to me, sorry...
Cry harder newfag. You don't even bring valid points why this matter should be dismissed.
I am 100% sure that the thread starter came from OriginalRO. /ho This person played Original RO then switch to that server and saw the same post.
To be honest, nobody from Original RO gives that much attention to that post.
@TopicQuote from: MrMystery on Jan 09, 2014, 10:10 PM
PureRO Owner here.
This was brought to my attention not too long ago as someone has posted it to our forums as well. We did not give OriginalRO or CycloneRO any permission to use our text or images. Triper is correct, the main image used was done using the same Bifrost image that appears in nearly every mention of the episode. The other images use sprites and mini-map images. We did not draw these images but have edited them to our liking which is what most servers do, so I have no problem with that. This is obviously copied and is using the same exact edited images from our site.
There should be no question as to who's text that belongs to between PureRO, OriginalRO, and CycloneRO. "Equipment boxes which contain an assortment of equipment already available" is pretty unique to PureRO so I'm surprised that they didn't bother removing that text (unless they also made custom equipment box items like ours). Notice how the post dates from CycloneRO and OriginalRO are posted on dates after we've posted ours? Besides, from Triper's post it looks like they didn't just copy from us but from IntenseRO as well.
In short, I'm not the Admin of OriginalRO or CycloneRO and did not give either of them permission to use any of our images or text. I wouldn't be surprised if IntenseRO did not give them permission as well.
Thank you for clarifying and posting on this thread. I hope you and our Admin can talk this over via PM. I'm sure he will tell you everything why it ended up like this. You can even ask him to delete that thread if thats what makes you happy. /no1
@TriperMay I ask if you have any suggestion that can possibly resolve this issue? /ok
Quote from: Innomite on Jan 10, 2014, 02:32 AM
It's really a shame because OriginalRO has actually a lot of potential, I would come back if I wasn't banned.
All the people who got banned in our server always say that. It really has a lot of potential. One of the best Renewal servers out there. That's the charm of our server. So you guys should check out Original RO /lv
Seems that they also jacked their server rules page, lulz.
http://www.originalro.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rules (http://www.originalro.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rules)
http://wiki.talonro.com/Server+Rules (http://wiki.talonro.com/Server+Rules)
http://www.originalro.com/?module=pages&action=content&path=rules (http://www.originalro.com/?module=pages&action=content&path=rules)
https://talonro.com/general-rules.html (https://talonro.com/general-rules.html)
Gotta say, I had a good laugh.
im ex-player from that server, that server is nice but gm is s*** that why my whole guild leaving, if u guys still remember,before this we already made bad review about this server, u can find that person comment over there (inzanity) maybe he friend of gm, if u play OriginalRO u will know gm have favoritism toward this guys (inzanity).
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/)
This gm doesn't know anything, he only know how to banned player, thats all, that why he just copied and pasted /heh
*sorry for bad english*
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
@Triper
May I ask if you have any suggestion that can possibly resolve this issue? /ok
The only way I can see this resolved is the admin clears/edit everything that he copied in his two servers [OriginalRO and CycloneRO] as it's usually done in this cases.
At this rate, I really wonder what is Original in the server ...
Oh look what the donation npc has to say in prontera...
http://puu.sh/6ggDG.jpg (http://puu.sh/6ggDG.jpg)
Stealing here and there and call it your own.. at least make sure to check what you have stolen and replace the name AT THE VERY LEAST
Original RO/Cyclone RO are pretty much the same server as far as i know.
Original RO edited the Rules (Wiki, website will be updated later) and 14.1 Episode post to supress any further drama that is being caused here.
The GM told me he will edit anything else the Admin has "copied".
Quote from: Kensei on Jan 10, 2014, 08:27 AM
Cry harder newfag. You don't even bring valid points why this matter should be dismissed.
Where am im crying f***? My point was pretty valid. Were (mostly) talking about official content that you find on every renewal server. Merely how the info is displayed was copied and technically were all copying from gravity. All admins make money with stolen pirated software. I tell you, hypocrites.
Quote from: shadowz0098 on Jan 10, 2014, 01:22 PM
im ex-player from that server, that server is nice but gm is s*** that why my whole guild leaving, if u guys still remember,before this we already made bad review about this server, u can find that person comment over there (inzanity) maybe he friend of gm, if u play OriginalRO u will know gm have favoritism toward this guys (inzanity).
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/)
This gm doesn't know anything, he only know how to banned player, thats all, that why he just copied and pasted /heh
*sorry for bad english*
Oh im being favoured by the GM now because i give positive feedback because i like the server? f*** logic, right? I have 0 favourism or any privis over other players. Unlike other people though, i dont try to sell my MVP cards for real life money, flame every person in main chat and actually now how to play this game. Thanks for your very informative post.
edit:
Quote from: ghrim on Jan 10, 2014, 02:53 PM
Oh look what the donation npc has to say in prontera...
http://puu.sh/6ggDG.jpg (http://puu.sh/6ggDG.jpg)
Stealing here and there and call it your own.. at least make sure to check what you have stolen and replace the name AT THE VERY LEAST
OH MY GOD DO YOU EVEN DO YOUR RESEARCH?
Read here then start talking ok? http://code.google.com/p/fluxcp/ (http://code.google.com/p/fluxcp/)
And maybe here: http://rathena.org/board/topic/90428-ringame-npc-exchange-donation-point-to-cash-point/?hl=donation (http://rathena.org/board/topic/90428-ringame-npc-exchange-donation-point-to-cash-point/?hl=donation)
Flux is a CP. Its a bought script PLENTY of servers use.
No I didn't do any research because I assumed there is a server named FluxRO and it was stolen from there. ( There was actually one called that way. http://www.rotop100.com/5722/ (http://www.rotop100.com/5722/) )
How else should one interpret when an npc says something like that?
Maybe I am mistaken, sorry.
They probably use the flux control panel on their site and npc for donations ... although I am not really sure what the control panel has to do with the npc description.
Why not just change the name in the npc box to OriginalRO at least?
It would make a lot more sense
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 10, 2014, 03:38 PM
Flux is a CP. Its a bought script PLENTY of servers use.
Bought? Flux is free, what are you talking about? Anyone can get it free and here (http://rathena.org/board/topic/60255-fluxcp-renewal-finally-native-rathena-support/) for rathena.
The npc into question is just not edited as anyone can see in here (https://github.com/calciumkid/fluxcp-renewal/blob/master/data/npc/DonationNPC.txt) or in the same folder in the link you gave for the eathena version. In case you can't see, check the following code boxs:
// Server Name
set .serverName$,"FluxRO";mes "I am here to allow for the redemption of rewards for donations to " + .serverName$ + ".";So yes, in this case it's not copied, it's just not edited to match the name of the server.
k sry bout the bought part. mistake on my side. i think most scripts are pay to get these days.
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 10, 2014, 03:38 PM
Oh im being favoured by the GM now because i give positive feedback because i like the server? f*** logic, right? I have 0 favourism or any privis over other players. Unlike other people though, i dont try to sell my MVP cards for real life money, flame every person in main chat and actually now how to play this game. Thanks for your very informative post.
slip of the tounge? why did you use I?
Quote from: urboyfriend on Jan 10, 2014, 07:25 PM
slip of the tounge? why did you use I?
Please refer to shadowz post.
Quote from: shadowz0098 on Jan 10, 2014, 01:22 PM
im ex-player from that server, that server is nice but gm is s*** that why my whole guild leaving, if u guys still remember,before this we already made bad review about this server, u can find that person comment over there (inzanity) maybe he friend of gm, if u play OriginalRO u will know gm have favoritism toward this guys (inzanity).
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-review/)
This gm doesn't know anything, he only know how to banned player, thats all, that why he just copied and pasted /heh
*sorry for bad english*
Stop posting some lies shadowz. Some of your members are still playing Original RO and joined other guild. I ask why they didnt join you on your new server, you know what they said? "NEVAHHHHH" "No way, i inveseted too much on this server" /heh
You should also stop telling people that they don't know anything, it's not nice :).
you also said the "We made bad review about this server" and you still played oRO? You guys are weird.
and pleaseee stop the favoritism issue, admin is always nice to all the players. Unless if you've broke some rules. /hmm
Quote from: Triper on Jan 10, 2014, 02:21 PM
The only way I can see this resolved is the admin clears/edit everything that he copied in his two servers [OriginalRO and CycloneRO] as it's usually done in this cases.
At this rate, I really wonder what is Original in the server ...
Whaaaaaaaat? this can be resolved by doing that? that's easy! Ok i will ask our admin to do that. /no1
and you should try Original RO if you have time :D those people who left our server says that Original RO is one of the best renewal server out there. Even those who got banned say that. Pretty odd right? why would they even say that if they already left that server. /lv
I want this thread to be locked soon. We have gained some new players now because of this thread, i hope those who advertise their server here got a few /heh
230+ online today and uhmm 40+ are vendors. You can count them on vending area if you want. /gg
Quote
Stop posting some lies shadowz. Some of your members are still playing Original RO and joined other guild. I ask why they didnt join you on your new server, you know what they said? "NEVAHHHHH" "No way, i inveseted too much on this server" /heh
You should also stop telling people that they don't know anything, it's not nice :).
you also said the "We made bad review about this server" and you still played oRO? You guys are weird.
and pleaseee stop the favoritism issue, admin is always nice to all the players. Unless if you've broke some rules. /hmm
Whaaaaaaaat? this can be resolved by doing that? that's easy! Ok i will ask our admin to do that. /no1
lie? /heh the remaining member is just a new comer, and im not playing that server anymore /wah
Wait, you guys are actually making a big deal out of this?
#1. RO private servers are property that has been STOLEN from Gravity.
#2. Everyone that hosts a private server is using stolen material and makes money out of it by "donations".
#3. Everyone that plays on that server are using stolen material.
#4. RMS is funded by ads and the people that visit this site are manly people that are playing on private servers. Which still is stolen property.
#5. If you had any kind of brains at all, you would've understood that this is basically accusing someone for stealing when you were the first one to steal.
This is what it sounds like to me:
"Hehehe, I'm going to host a private server. I'm going to make money.
I'll need to steal the game from somewhere. Oh, s***! Someone stole MY game from me! BURN HIM ON THE BONFIRE! HE IS A THEIF!!!!1111oneone"
I hate all of these rant and raves.Here's so triper doesn't remove this. What's the big deal, they've already stolen those from Gravity in the first place. They're advertising the same maps and the same game. Just my two cents, hate me all you want Why can't people make/administer RO for the fun of it like in the days of yore? So I propose we make SwitzerlandRO(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQB8lTSNKRq4mJtcoB60M6dq7tO74-0E2kpuiqEy2hyE2B9oRLnsA)
Based in snowy mount Mjolnir, it features 100% original sprites, maps, and NPCs, custome weapons and gears, storyboard and dialogue.
Tired of farming zenny? Well now other servers can invest their zenny into SwitzerlandRO and make huge profits in their secure and un-taxed bank accounts! Bards are renamed Yodelers(Jodler), and alchemists as Cheesemakers(Käser). Knights become the Swiss Guard and Supernovices are now Swiss army knives.It will remain completely neutral towards other servers, as it wants peace and playfulness like in the olden days.(Chemi-Crush and some coders, make pls /no1 /ene)
hahaha novus that sounds awesome! id play that for sure. But only if cheese is as strong as Ygg berry on switzerland RO!
omfg that Roger Federer meme lmfao
It's not so much "omg u fagit u stole mi website content!!11one" but rather a funny and ironic thing to see when your server name is "OriginalRO" and you are too lazy to even come up with "original" texts, which is by far the easiest part of running a server. If you can't even bring yourself to write your own texts, that means 99% of your scripts will be jacked from the rAthena forums, you aren't capable of doing important source mods or complicated, original scripts, et cetera. It's mostly just very bad advertisement for your own server.
Should have changed your server name to UnoriginalRO or CopyRO or whatever. That way we won't discuss your server like this.
Even other servers that found out copying contents at least use their domain. This? Lol.
Quote from: Gankare on Jan 10, 2014, 10:19 PM
Wait, you guys are actually making a big deal out of this?
#1. RO private servers are property that has been STOLEN from Gravity.
#2. Everyone that hosts a private server is using stolen material and makes money out of it by "donations".
#3. Everyone that plays on that server are using stolen material.
#4. RMS is funded by ads and the people that visit this site are manly people that are playing on private servers. Which still is stolen property.
#5. If you had any kind of brains at all, you would've understood that this is basically accusing someone for stealing when you were the first one to steal.
This is what it sounds like to me:
"Hehehe, I'm going to host a private server. I'm going to make money.
I'll need to steal the game from somewhere. Oh, s***! Someone stole MY game from me! BURN HIM ON THE BONFIRE! HE IS A THEIF!!!!1111oneone"
QUOTED FOR TRUTH!
Quote from: DeePee on Jan 11, 2014, 05:37 AM
It's not so much "omg u fagit u stole mi website content!!11one" but rather a funny and ironic thing to see when your server name is "OriginalRO" and you are too lazy to even come up with "original" texts, which is by far the easiest part of running a server. If you can't even bring yourself to write your own texts, that means 99% of your scripts will be jacked from the rAthena forums, you aren't capable of doing important source mods or complicated, original scripts, et cetera. It's mostly just very bad advertisement for your own server.
Upon checking, the 2 threads that was mentioned here was already modified. /ok
I dont know anything about the source mods, original scripts, etc~ I'm just wondering why those words were mentioned on this thread. /sob
Quote from: Kensei on Jan 11, 2014, 06:50 AM
Should have changed your server name to UnoriginalRO or CopyRO or whatever. That way we won't discuss your server like this.
Even other servers that found out copying contents at least use their domain. This? Lol.
I would also like to take this opportunity to say thank you to this guy^
Whoever you are, thank you for always bumping this thread. This thread is still on the main page of RMS. New players are still coming. /kis
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 11, 2014, 09:36 AM
Upon checking, the 2 threads that was mentioned here was already modified. /ok
Indeed, I already noticed that the first one talked about was already changed with euRO's info but a lot more need to be edited like the rules from Talon and the images stolen from Intense. Still, it's a good start!
Btw, this is only on OriginalRO's server, not in Cyclone - http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/index.php?/topic/179-episode-141-bifrost/ (http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/index.php?/topic/179-episode-141-bifrost/)
I have the feeling that the GM/Mod care more about the server then the admin.
@Novus: Damn, that pic is indeed very funny along with the text as a combo. Unless yC doesn't like it, I will let it stay.
I remember seeing a thread similar to this and posting here and saying it shouldn't really be a big deal, but now that it's my server we're talking about... I still don't see it as a big deal. Why is that one guy acting like PureRO is flaming about this though? All we've really done is confirm it did come from us.
Quote from: Triper on Jan 11, 2014, 09:59 AM
Indeed, I already noticed that the first one talked about was already changed with euRO's info but a lot more need to be edited like the rules from Talon and the images stolen from Intense. Still, it's a good start!
Btw, this is only on OriginalRO's server, not in Cyclone - http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/index.php?/topic/179-episode-141-bifrost/ (http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/index.php?/topic/179-episode-141-bifrost/)
I will try to PM any forum mod or GMs there to change the above mentioned rules and images. Thanks for visiting our forums btw. /lv
About cyclone RO, uhmmm. I'm not a player on that server, so maybe some of the GMs on that server should post here or you may contact them on their forums.
Quote from: Kagamine Rinto on Jan 11, 2014, 02:11 PM
I remember seeing a thread similar to this and posting here and saying it shouldn't really be a big deal, but now that it's my server we're talking about... I still don't see it as a big deal. Why is that one guy acting like PureRO is flaming about this though? All we've really done is confirm it did come from us.
Dont mind them hahaha! They are advertising their server here for free. /heh
It's nice to know that people from PureRO is not making a big deal out of it. Thank you! /lv I as a player of oRO wants to apologize for whatever inconvenience we may have caused you guys. /kis2
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 11, 2014, 09:36 AM
I would also like to take this opportunity to say thank you to this guy^
Whoever you are, thank you for always bumping this thread. This thread is still on the main page of RMS. New players are still coming. /kis
A psychological defense mechanism. lol, but your right this is a good part for your server to be heard.
Quote from: Triper on Jan 11, 2014, 09:59 AM
I have the feeling that the GM/Mod care more about the server then the admin.
I think the admin is the most important person of the team. By the looks of it, if Triper is right, then OriginalRO's problems will just be starting.
To most players this is really not a big deal. So what if they have copied this and that. Players will just want to find a good server to play with. But this thread just showed that the admin is not giving much effort for his server. Which means I think he really care less about the server. IMO i think the passion and love for the admin can be showed on the hardwork he is doing for the server. Ive been to servers where the admin cares less for his server and what happens next are not good.
All this thread is a joke.
You are very lost haters.
Thanks for the free advertising. My server numbers are increasing each day.
All the haters, as usually, cry me a big big river.
Apolgizes to the sentimental people, we've edited our rules and such, we just copied 'em when we started this project, nothing to put the effort into if we can take them from a wonderful awesome and incredible server like TalonRO.
@TalonRO's dog: Who ever you are, this is the second time you post on a topic related to my server and I haven't answered you, if you don't know anything about it, do not coment. You are a heavy piece of s***, the arrogance and all the crap you write just make me want to nauseate / throw up/ vomite / puke... Die man.
Tripper... You knew this thread wasn't worth a peny but you decided to spend your time looking at my website for stuff not worth a s***.
I think you might want to spend your time on real life rather than giving any importance to this. It's just mental sickness.
Thanks for the free advertising f-ckers.
Cheers.
I hope you know that the "TalonRO's dog", in case you're referring to DeePee, is one of the Admins of it. He's the person behind the "wonderful" place where you copied the rules.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Tripper... You knew this thread wasn't worth a peny but you decided to spend your time looking at my website for stuff not worth a s***.
I think you might want to spend your time on real life rather than giving any importance to this. It's just mental sickness.
Give me a reason to close a topic with truth when every topic like this is always handled this way.
And about my life don't worry, I can say that I manage it fine. I lost a really close aunt 2 days before New Year but I'm fine, thanks for caring about it!
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
All this thread is a joke.
You are very lost haters.
Thanks for the free advertising. My server numbers are increasing each day.
All the haters, as usually, cry me a big big river.
Apolgizes to the sentimental people, we've edited our rules and such, we just copied 'em when we started this project, nothing to put the effort into if we can take them from a wonderful awesome and incredible server like TalonRO.
@TalonRO's dog: Who ever you are, this is the second time you post on a topic related to my server and I haven't answered you, if you don't know anything about it, do not coment. You are a heavy piece of s***, the arrogance and all the crap you write just make me want to nauseate / throw up/ vomite / puke... Die man.
Tripper... You knew this thread wasn't worth a peny but you decided to spend your time looking at my website for stuff not worth a s***.
I think you might want to spend your time on real life rather than giving any importance to this. It's just mental sickness.
Thanks for the free advertising f-ckers.
Cheers.
You honestly think you're the s*** don't you? Attitude like this will be the death of your server.
Have you not see so many server collapse with this kind of behavior. You're not just kid but a kid with no manners.
First of all learn to be humble and stop talking from your donkey. You talk about arrogance and have the nerve to trash talk people when you're the one stealing their s***. What a little prick you are. kthxbye!
OH LOOK HAHAHA. He didn't use red caps now.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
I think you might want to spend your time on real life rather than giving any importance to this. It's just mental sickness.
Thanks for the free advertising f-ckers.
Cheers.
We are not in OriginalRO's forums, you should respect Triper as he's the moderator here.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 14, 2014, 03:11 PM--removed post--
Cheeeeeers
This is one of the most ironic s*** I've ever read this month. Damn it, Elias, you're so ridiculous.
You're the one that comes here like a big boy trying to feed your ego with all that stuff you write trying to feel better because you used to get gangbanged by your three pedo uncles every saturday when you were 7. What cracks me up is that this is probably the second negative thread against (Un)OriginalRO and Elias is making a big deal out of this. C'mon, you're not Cookie or Boreas, you're
WAY below their level.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
You are very lost haters.
Sí, I is very lost hater. Stealing material and editing it is pretty normal in any private RO server. Now, stealing stolen material without having the decency of at least editing its source but only making a copypaste out of it is pretty lame imo.
Sí, your server is pretty good, it holds a lot of potential. I also agree that the community is nice back in the time I was there. Your server holds a great potential for renewal players. But you, as a person, are not as brilliant as you are as an Admin. Acting like a king of the morons won't take you any further, you will soon realize when your numbers drop down.
Cleaned the non-necessary bad talk. Let's not act as 5 years old kids, ok?
So uh. No offense, but calling someone a "heavy piece of s***" and to go "die man" is necessary bad talk?
One thing is to vent feelings, another is to bring something into discussion that nobody really likes to read about.
PS - If you're trying to pull it to your side, I remember you that he also talked bad about me in the same post and I already gave my opinion about it.
Yep, was talking about his attitude towards a moderator, too.
But good to know that those things are okay here.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
All this thread is a joke.
Actually, you are.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
You are very lost haters.
Touché.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Thanks for the free advertising. My server numbers are increasing each day.
Girl please, we all know RMS forums do not bring in real traffic. Quit tryin' it. I've had hundreds play my server when I there was so much s*** about me on this forum and the traffic surely didn't originate from it (thanks to Google Analytics).
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
All the haters, as usually, cry me a big big river.
I feel like you're writing us a haiku at this point. Or, a terribly composed song. Maybe both.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Apolgizes to the sentimental people, we've edited our rules and such, we just copied 'em when we started this project, nothing to put the effort into if we can take them from a wonderful awesome and incredible server like TalonRO.
Apologize for what exactly? Getting caught, copying the rules, having terrible English, some of the above, or all of the above?
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
@TalonRO's dog: Who ever you are, this is the second time you post on a topic related to my server and I haven't answered you, if you don't know anything about it, do not coment. You are a heavy piece of s***, the arrogance and all the crap you write just make me want to nauseate / throw up/ vomite / puke... Die man.
Not really appropriate. I didn't know DeePee and Boreas had a dog. That's kawaii.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Tripper... You knew this thread wasn't worth a peny but you decided to spend your time looking at my website for stuff not worth a s***.
Enough said. Last I recall his name was Triper. But, yes, you're tripping.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
I think you might want to spend your time on real life rather than giving any importance to this. It's just mental sickness.
Now you understand how I feel after reading your post.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Thanks for the free advertising f-ckers.
You're creative. You deserve an award. For someone that benefited off of higher player counts, you're quite defensive.
Quote from: EliasB on Jan 12, 2014, 07:40 PM
Cheers.
Bye Felicia. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bye%20felicia)
Xoxo,
Cookie
Why would you remove his post? It's fun to see Rayeth and Elias fighting.
If you know what I'm talking about :^)
Quote from: DeePee on Jan 15, 2014, 10:13 AM
Yep, was talking about his attitude towards a moderator, too.
But good to know that those things are okay here.
They're not ok but I'm not dumb enough to make it go the other side so if he wants to play the "I'm a kid crying" and let everybody reading about that fact, I won't be the one hiding that.
I already gave him my opinion about how he acts through PMs more then once in the other topic so there is no need for more. If he wants to keep playing the same game like his last post, I will start to think about muting him and "block" his chance to defend about what happens in his server and just let people talk here. I'm sure that some kind player from his servers will be able to deliver the message soon or later.
I'm not like some that just block and screw the rest or the "Easy deal, yo" guy.
Quote from: Kensei on Jan 15, 2014, 06:58 PM
Why would you remove his post? It's fun to see Rayeth and Elias fighting.
If you know what I'm talking about :^)
Talking about rape isn't something that people enjoy.
Quote from: Triper on Jan 15, 2014, 08:13 AM
Cleaned the non-necessary bad talk. Let's not act as 5 years old kids, ok?
Please. What do you expect from Elias? He has yet to grow a strand of pube.
Even if we assume stealing text and imagines is okay and stuff, isn't the real problem that the server owner isn't really able to actually offer everything on the website? I mean players can't rely on the text at all if it's just copied from another server.
So I think it's correct to be against it.
I wonder how these guys (Elias and friends) can win a discussion outside oRO's domain. C'mon guys, you have so much power inside the Original RO forums but here--you should stop acting like a kid and stop showing how small your brain is.
A person who can't even write his own shizniz, can you seriously edit scripts and use your left and right brain properly SIR? ha! funny guy.
One more thing, I've seen how much you've overused the word "drama" and can't even use it in a proper way. Not everything is drama in this world, you should get some real air.
The "stolen" text already got changed by one of our GMs.
Obviously im gonna defend the server i enjoy playing since day 1. Who needs to grow up here?
I dont wanna see anymore flame here between our admin and you guys. I dont care who started it. Im telling the server is great even tho admin was lazy and copied some stuff from a server thats probably dead (didnt check, just assumign). Its just rules. Rules and some official Episode 14.1 post. Both got changed so im pretty sure we can close this topic.
any more than this is biased flame.
1. Your admin started flaming people, we merely pointed out that he stole content.
2. None of those servers are dead, why would you assume that? And even then it's still not okay to copy content from their websites.
3. This is not about whether oRO is enjoyable or not, but that they admin called his server "original" while copying text from other servers.
Quote from: inzanity on Jan 17, 2014, 02:10 PM
The "stolen" text already got changed by one of our GMs.
Obviously im gonna defend the server i enjoy playing since day 1. Who needs to grow up here?
I dont wanna see anymore flame here between our admin and you guys. I dont care who started it. Im telling the server is great even tho admin was lazy and copied some stuff from a server thats probably dead (didnt check, just assumign). Its just rules. Rules and some official Episode 14.1 post. Both got changed so im pretty sure we can close this topic.
any more than this is biased flame.
I still see http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/ (http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/) with IntenseRO's links and nobody is questioning if the server is good or not, it's just how "original" it's because, with that name, it's kinda bad to know this. You can call it RO pserver's net-etiquette or just respect if you want.
Quote from: Triper on Jan 17, 2014, 04:05 PM
I still see http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/ (http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/) with IntenseRO's links and nobody is questioning if the server is good or not, it's just how "original" it's because, with that name, it's kinda bad to know this. You can call it RO pserver's net-etiquette or just respect if you want.
Intense ROs Images came from this website http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/File:RO_AlpacaMt.gif (http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/File:RO_AlpacaMt.gif.)
What im saying is, the images doesn't belong to them. It doesnt matter if the IntenseRO's links is still there. As long as the request to remove the images is not coming from http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/, (http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/,) those images should still remain in our forums.
To sum this up, i would love to give you guys the breakdown of the issue:
Concern regarding PureRO's Bifrost thread -
Already resolved. Content was removedIntenseRO's links with GIF images -
no need to remove since images came from http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/File:RO_AlpacaMt.gif, (http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/File:RO_AlpacaMt.gif,)
stealing content from stolen images is legit[?]/ I think lol.Then,
the "rules and regulations" from talon RO.What if i told you that there are some private ragnarok server who uses those "rules and regulations". What if the said rules was copied from those servers? If its from TalonRO, why are we not seeing complaints from TalonRO about those server who steal the said rule? Why putting all the blame to Original RO? (i apologize if there are threads for those servers, too lazy to dig em up)
List of the said servers with same rules:
http://passion-ro.com/cp/index.php?act=shownews&post_id=14 (http://passion-ro.com/cp/index.php?act=shownews&post_id=14)
http://www.faithreborn.com/home/ (http://www.faithreborn.com/home/)
http://community.rebellion-ro.com/recent/ (http://community.rebellion-ro.com/recent/)
Again for the nth time, there is no ORIGINAL RAGNAROK PRIVATE SERVER, let me quote this for y'all...
Quote from: Gankare on Jan 10, 2014, 10:19 PM
#1. RO private servers are property that has been STOLEN from Gravity.
#2. Everyone that hosts a private server is using stolen material and makes money out of it by "donations".
#3. Everyone that plays on that server are using stolen material.
#4. RMS is funded by ads and the people that visit this site are mainly people that are playing on private servers. Which still is stolen property.
#5. If you had any kind of brains at all, you would've understood that this is basically accusing someone for stealing when you were the first one to steal.
The problem isn't the images, it's that they're being linked from their wiki ... If they're so easy to get, why not host their own version?
And it's a shame that there are more servers using TalonRO's server rules.
Quote from: Triper on Jan 17, 2014, 09:03 PM
The problem isn't the images, it's that they're being linked from their wiki ... If they're so easy to get, why not host their own version?
Just found those link today, maybe i will ask them to remove and change the link. When that happens, can i request for this thread to be closed? I am seeing too many flame bait here. I hope you understand why our admin is acting like that. Lots of people are posting on this thread, they're not even related on the servers that was mentioned here.
Flaming isn't allowed here but flame bait is.. sorry its just weird /sob
About the rules issue, it is beyond our scope now. Lots of em are using that.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 17, 2014, 09:26 PM
I am seeing too many flame bait here. I hope you understand why our admin is acting like that. Lots of people are posting on this thread, they're not even related on the servers that was mentioned here.
Flaming isn't allowed here but flame bait is.. sorry its just weird /sob.
I find your post quite ironic compared to the previous one. I highly doubt we can understand why your admin is being this childish and acting like a big shot.
Quote from: Boreas on Jan 17, 2014, 02:17 PM
1. Your admin started flaming people, we merely pointed out that he stole content.
^This.
@Hummingbird: There is still the other links of the other servers that copy TalonRO's rules but I guess a new topic can be made for that so, probably, if nothing new is found by that time, yes.
That post deletion. I guess I should just thank you for strongly agreeing with me
Anyway, anyone who plays on whatever this kid Elias starts running is clearly a dumbass.
@Omen: Get off the thread. Youre making yourself look retarded.
u know what...., im happy, finally outside world know (un)OriginalRO got Admin with this kind of attitude /heh
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 17, 2014, 09:26 PM
I am seeing too many flame bait here.
[--removed as requested--]
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 17, 2014, 09:26 PM
I hope you understand why our admin is acting like that.
look how he replies to those early bad reviews. really...please /heh
Quote from: Triper on Jan 17, 2014, 10:09 PM
@Hummingbird: There is still the other links of the other servers that copy TalonRO's rules but I guess a new topic can be made for that so, probably, if nothing new is found by that time, yes.
Thanks! That is all i want to know. /no1
We will keep you posted once the said content has been modified or removed.
It's pretty funny to see a random player be a better representative to his server than the person who should be the face of the server, the admin. In this case we should of course pronounce "funny" the same way we pronounce "sad".
Can't wait to see what un-originalRO needs to steal next :D
But it's much funnier to see random forumer posting on this thread and makes our server famous.
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
But it's much funnier to see random forumer posting on this thread and makes our server famous.
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
I can sign what Cookie said before. There are many threads about TalonRO on RMS, yet the traffic generated from the RMS forum is not worth mentioning. Copy pasting texts from other websites is not "good publicity", neither are the responses of your admin. This thread will neither bring more players to your server, nor will it have a negative impact on your player influx. What it does tho is show us how bad of an admin oRO has. He is worse than Cookie or me PR wise, never thought that would be possible.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
But it's much funnier to see random forumer posting on this thread and makes our server famous.
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
Wow I can't believe how obsessed and biased you are about the server.
Are you really a random player or part of the staff?
Do you get paid for writing all that?
You say any publicity is good publicity.. hah very funny.
Maybe you are right and OriginalRO often appears on the mainpage of RMS, but those people who actually bother to read through these topics will notice how flawed the server is and avoid it.
There are so many negative reviews on the server it's not even funny anymore, I can't imagine a person looking for a server to play on disregard all of them.
OriginalRO has potential, which is sadly wasted in the hands of an incompetent leader.
It has been proven several times and not only in this topic.
You will see the numbers drop soon enough.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 10, 2014, 08:02 PM
Please refer to shadowz post.
I want this thread to be locked soon. We have gained some new players now because of this thread, i hope those who advertise their server here got a few[/color] /heh
if this thread will give you more players, why close soon? unless you guys are really getting butt hurt because of idiocracy
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
But it's much funnier to see random forumer posting on this thread and makes our server famous.
You're the Funniest
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
"All publicity is good if it is intelligent." [--removed as requested--] /no1
Quote from: ghrim on Jan 18, 2014, 02:25 PM
Wow I can't believe how obsessed and biased you are about the server.
Are you really a random player or part of the staff?
Do you get paid for writing all that?
You say any publicity is good publicity.. hah very funny.
Maybe you are right and OriginalRO often appears on the mainpage of RMS, but those people who actually bother to read through these topics will notice how flawed the server is and avoid it.
There are so many negative reviews on the server it's not even funny anymore, I can't imagine a person looking for a server to play on disregard all of them.
OriginalRO has potential, which is sadly wasted in the hands of an incompetent leader.
It has been proven several times and not only in this topic.
You will see the numbers drop soon enough.
Not biased, obsessed nor getting paid. I'm just a normal player.
About the negative comment at RMS. Nah, everyone who got banned on our server says that it was a great server. Some of them still plays there, some of the friends of those who got banned still visits the server. I really find it odd, seriously. They are even using their merchants to sell their items and checking our forums. You see a good server will be a good server no matter what your admins personality is.
When you're looking for a game to play, you are checking the servers pc requirements, gameplay and features. I havent seen any online game catering uber kind and perfect GMs.
Quote from: Boreas on Jan 18, 2014, 02:14 PM
I can sign what Cookie said before. There are many threads about TalonRO on RMS, yet the traffic generated from the RMS forum is not worth mentioning. Copy pasting texts from other websites is not "good publicity", neither are the responses of your admin. This thread will neither bring more players to your server, nor will it have a negative impact on your player influx. What it does tho is show us how bad of an admin oRO has. He is worse than Cookie or me PR wise, never thought that would be possible.
I see, i will keep that in mind. However, the issue here is not about whos bad or nice. TalonROs issue regarding the rules will be resolved the soonest possible time.
and thanks for not flaming me i guess? It's nice to know that there are people here whos not related to originalRO that can say their opinion without saying mean things. /lv
As a random passerby, I can say that I have considered joining OriginalRO but surely won't after reading this thread, especially the Original GM's hate-filled reply. And surely I'll give that as feedback to any friends of mine who ask. But that's just me.
As for OP, it indeed is hilarious.
It is also hilarious that OriginalRO defenders press on their actions being somehow "justified"(?) or "not worth the attention".
RO servers stealing others' content is no news, the humor lies in ironic name of your server.
Also, the idea of "stealing" (and getting money from it) from people who already "stole something else" being justified is, in my overly honest opinion, retarded.
Wrongful actions don't justify more wrongful actions. Even if we all are the community who "stole something else", there's a matter of respect for others' effort. If a person steals a bucket of paint and paints a beautiful picture, is it fair to steal it from him? No. Sue him for the bucket of paint.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
But it's much funnier to see random forumer posting on this thread and makes our server famous.
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
Not random at all dear, I'm a GM on talonRO. One of the servers your admin feels they need to copy. Immitation is after all the sincerest form of flattery!
And can I say, I've seen many servers grow quickly like your own. And a server as lacking in original content as yours appears to be is bound to go only one direction I fear.
Quote from: Cressy on Jan 18, 2014, 08:14 PM
Not random at all dear, I'm a GM on talonRO. One of the servers your admin feels they need to copy. Immitation is after all the sincerest form of flattery!
And can I say, I've seen many servers grow quickly like your own. And a server as lacking in original content as yours appears to be is bound to go only one direction I fear.
I know right! /heh sincerest form of flattery indeed.
So, as a GM of TalonRO, would you like us to remove the said content or you want us to keep that? If yes, please make another thread and indicate those servers that copied your rules and regulations.
I dont see why oRO takes the blame when the said rules are being used by lots of private RO servers. /ok
~
About defending the server, yes. I am defending the server i am playing. Im just returning the favor to admin. You see, the guy made a server that i like/love. I enjoyed playing on this server and its natural to defend the one you love/like right? You can call me an idiot all you want but you can't take that away from me.~ /ho
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 09:46 PM
So, as a GM of TalonRO, would you like us to remove the said content or you want us to keep that? If yes, please make another thread and indicate those servers that copied your rules and regulations.
Other servers that copied TalonRO's rules are not your/originalRO's business. He doesn't need to do anything like that.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 09:46 PM
I dont see why oRO takes the blame when the said rules are being used by lots of private RO servers.
Because it is to blame. Other private RO servers that copied Talon's do not concern this case. Are you saying thieves shouldn't take the blame because there are a lot of other thieves? Ridiculous.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 09:46 PM
~
About defending the server, yes. I am defending the server i am playing. Im just returning the favor to admin. You see, the guy made a server that i like/love. I enjoyed playing on this server and its natural to defend the one you love/like right? You can call me an idiot all you want but you can't take that away from me.~
Since there are no other posts about defense except mine between your two posts, I'll take this as a reply to my post.
So I'll reply back, you either did not read my post or
completely misunderstood its content.
On related note, defending the server you like is okay by showing its good sides and explaining why is it nice or worth playing. Defending it by taunting, ridiculing, or attacking the ones pointing out bad things about it is disgusting and beats the very point of defending it in the first place.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 04:37 PM
Not biased, obsessed nor getting paid. I'm just a normal player.
About the negative comment at RMS. Nah, everyone who got banned on our server says that it was a great server. Some of them still plays there, some of the friends of those who got banned still visits the server. I really find it odd, seriously. They are even using their merchants to sell their items and checking our forums. You see a good server will be a good server no matter what your admins personality is.
When you're looking for a game to play, you are checking the servers pc requirements, gameplay and features. I havent seen any online game catering uber kind and perfect GMs.
I see, i will keep that in mind. However, the issue here is not about whos bad or nice. TalonROs issue regarding the rules will be resolved the soonest possible time.
and thanks for not flaming me i guess? It's nice to know that there are people here whos not related to originalRO that can say their opinion without saying mean things. /lv
There are actually a fair amount of players who wouldn't play on a server solely because of who the GM is. I would never play on a server ran by Cookie for example. I'm not saying I wouldn't play OriginalRO just because of this incident, but if it becomes a trend for it to should up on rants and rave on RMS I probably would make sure to stay clear of servers ran by him/her.
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
You know what they say, "Any Publicity is good publicity". Tee hee~ /lv
Right, because 90% of RO players are idiots who don't bother reading stuffs.
Anything is on the front page? Must be good. Who cares about server drama, originality, etc when the server is playable. Amirite gais?
Quote from: Kagamine Rinto on Jan 19, 2014, 02:51 AM
There are actually a fair amount of players who wouldn't play on a server solely because of who the GM is. I would never play on a server ran by Cookie for example. I'm not saying I wouldn't play OriginalRO just because of this incident, but if it becomes a trend for it to should up on rants and rave on RMS I probably would make sure to stay clear of servers ran by him/her.
Who is Cookie? he was mentioned twice on this thread. /sob Our admin is not that mean, why would i defend him if he's that kind of a person. I maybe an idiot but i know if its worth to defend a person. :)
Quote from: Kensei on Jan 19, 2014, 09:31 AM
Right, because 90% of RO players are idiots who don't bother reading stuffs.
Anything is on the front page? Must be good. Who cares about server drama, originality, etc when the server is playable. Amirite gais?
Awwwww, i may be on that 90% population. I played TalonRO before and saw their name on the front page. >.<
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 19, 2014, 12:07 PM
Who is Cookie? he was mentioned twice on this thread. /sob Our admin is not that mean, why would i defend him if he's that kind of a person. I maybe an idiot but i know if its worth to defend a person. :)
Cookie=Cawliflower. Elias is an idiot, you just said it. I would play on a server ran by Cookie (lelDiv4.0), but a server ran by Elias no ty.
And if you think that the consta-bad reviews given by players here is publicity that will bring more players to your server, then you have a problem.
I cannot believe this crap has turned into 6 pages of absolute BS.
This should sum up the point of this thread.
1. Don't name your server OriginalRO if you're going to copy anything from another private server, kinda defeats the purpose of calling it 'original'
2. You probably shouldn't act like a 2 year old when people talk crap about your server, acting professional can get you places where other people are concerned.
3. Negative RMS Bullcrap does not gain you players, where have you guys picked up this myth?
4. Cookie is Cawliflower, how can people not know that by now?
5. Some players really will not play a server if the GM is a total doucheface.
Idk if I forgot anything but really this is all the thread states. Unless there is anymore groundbreaking copying going on I don't think there is anything else useful to add to this thread, at all. Just my 2 cents.
so I guess you cannot delete my comment, and thread again mr Admin of oRO ^_^ and I believe you really miss us /gg
I just want to inform you that I still have those print screen with your lame excuses.
to all moderators here I hope I can post off topic on this thread. /ok
now you can blame the aRathena team here /gg
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 19, 2014, 06:12 PM
1. Don't name your server OriginalRO if you're going to copy anything from another private server, kinda defeats the purpose of calling it 'original'
People think sarcastic/ironic names r k00l and so tr0le xDxD.
Wait, what?
2. You probably shouldn't act like a 2 year old when people talk crap about your server, acting professional can get you places where other people are concerned.
Welcome to the 21st century, where maturity dies so fast while cancer spreads like no tomorrow
3. Negative RMS Bullcrap does not gain you players, where have you guys picked up this myth?
Because some people just suck at reading. Why read tons of paragraphs when you can see 2-3 numbers.
4. Cookie is Cawliflower, how can people not know that by now?
Newfags, newfags everywhere
5. Some players really will not play a server if the GM is a total doucheface.
Unless you're the kind of player that doesn't care about GMs and their drama. "Any server is playable as long as it's up" - 90% of RO players nowadays
There you go
Quote from: balangayfrix on Jan 19, 2014, 09:41 PM
so I guess you cannot delete my comment, and thread again mr Admi of oRO ^_^ and I believe you really miss us /gg just to inform you that I still have those print screen with your lame excuses. to all moderators here I hope I can post off topic on this thread /ok
now you can blame the aRathena team here /gg
Since there is already one topic made about what you're talking about, I guess you can post all the evidence in here (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/originalro-server-truth-about-admin/).
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 10, 2014, 08:02 PM
Please refer to shadowz post.
Stop posting some lies shadowz. Some of your members are still playing Original RO and joined other guild. I ask why they didnt join you on your new server, you know what they said? "NEVAHHHHH" "No way, i inveseted too much on this server" /heh
You should also stop telling people that they don't know anything, it's not nice :).
you also said the "We made bad review about this server" and you still played oRO? You guys are weird.
and pleaseee stop the favoritism issue, admin is always nice to all the players. Unless if you've broke some rules. /hmm
Whaaaaaaaat? this can be resolved by doing that? that's easy! Ok i will ask our admin to do that. /no1
and you should try Original RO if you have time :D those people who left our server says that Original RO is one of the best renewal server out there. Even those who got banned say that. Pretty odd right? why would they even say that if they already left that server. /lv
I want this thread to be locked soon. We have gained some new players now because of this thread, i hope those who advertise their server here got a few /heh
230+ online today and uhmm 40+ are vendors. You can count them on vending area if you want. /gg
230 online??yesterday just 130 online,include 40 vendors,and 30 buff slaves...2 months ago original ro can reach 300..but that is the stupidity of admin so his server is going to die soon
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 19, 2014, 06:12 PM
I cannot believe this crap has turned into 6 pages of absolute BS.
This should sum up the point of this thread.
1. Don't name your server OriginalRO if you're going to copy anything from another private server, kinda defeats the purpose of calling it 'original'
2. You probably shouldn't act like a 2 year old when people talk crap about your server, acting professional can get you places where other people are concerned.
3. Negative RMS Bullcrap does not gain you players, where have you guys picked up this myth?
4. Cookie is Cawliflower, how can people not know that by now?
5. Some players really will not play a server if the GM is a total doucheface.
Idk if I forgot anything but really this is all the thread states. Unless there is anymore groundbreaking copying going on I don't think there is anything else useful to add to this thread, at all. Just my 2 cents.
I have used the search engine and typed Cawliflower/GM Cookie, saw this one: http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/latest-news-about-gm-cookie-divinityro-everlasting-odyssey-and-sanctity/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/latest-news-about-gm-cookie-divinityro-everlasting-odyssey-and-sanctity/)
Thanks for the heads up!
1. TalonRO=Why is it talon?, PureRO=a nice name but why pure? IntenseRO = intense.. uhmm yeah intense. You know, names are just names. You cant judge a server by its name. I played talonRO before because i saw the servers name on front page and it fits on my online name. I didnt even bother to ask why the server name is Talon.
2. I think you were referring on our Admins post right? You know, even if it were posted in a nice way with kind words, rainbows and butterflies, the thought will be the same.
3. Some newbies told me that.. when i was boosting them. Ok, next time i'll tell them to stop lying. About the bad reviews, maybe it only works on new servers? If you happen to open one, you may try it.
This thread was supposedly a report about PureRO's Bifrost thread copied by OriginalRO. It was already resolved. Now it became "lets find all the bad things on oRO". I would like to apologize to those people who got pissed on my posts, it's just.. i love my server thats all. I dont want my beloved server to end like this.
@Peter101That was my post 10 days ago S t r i ke. It is true that the servers population is decreasing now. I'm so disppointed in you strike. :(
I know why you're acting like this, it's because you were banned right? You shouldnt endorse avid RO on main chat. /sob
You are one of the nicest person on oRO. I dont know why you did that. /sob
QuoteTalonRO=Why is it talon? PureRO=a nice name but why pure? IntenseRO = intense
None of these names are as
contradictory. They're just your everyday names with random or no meaning.
You can make a similar claim that Intense is not intense anymore, that Pure RO is not pure (I don't even), and that Talon RO is not... uh... a talon.
However none of these would be as hilarious (and I guess not as humiliating... I would be at least a bit ashamed of myself in oRO's place) as this Original RO case. Yet again, you're just pointing fingers at others, instead of defending your own server trying to make others' look bad. It doesn't work that way.
Quote3. Some newbies told me that.. when i was boosting them. Ok, next time i'll tell them to stop lying. About the bad reviews, maybe it only works on new servers? If you happen to open one, you may try it.
So the "they" from
Quote"Any publicity is good publicity, as they say"
referred to
some random newbies you helped leveling? You're quite the gullible one, then.
If you're getting SO MANY new players why would your server end?
It wouldn't.
Not a lot of normal players read the crap on RMS anyways. And I pointed out the name cause it was very contridicting. Its not original, so why is it named so, its just amusing that your server copys and calls it originalRO. -Shrugs-
Defending your server is good and all. I understand it, but making excuses is another. No one said there had to be butterflies and rainbows and cookies about an admins post. But if you want people to like you and have a nice impression of your server the admin should probably play the part, or GMS, either or. Thats just basic customer service.
JS.
Ive played on your server, im not saying its crap. But its not all that wonderful either. -Shrugs- Thats great that you like it, to each their own. And its nice to see you're defending the server, really, the only one defending it.
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 21, 2014, 12:54 AM
If you're getting SO MANY new players why would your server end?
It wouldn't.
Not a lot of normal players read the crap on RMS anyways. And I pointed out the name cause it was very contridicting. Its not original, so why is it named so, its just amusing that your server copys and calls it originalRO. -Shrugs-
Lots of players are reading stuff on RMS. Some of them doesnt want to post due to unknown reason. Servers population is decreasing too. :(
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 21, 2014, 12:54 AM
Defending your server is good and all. I understand it, but making excuses is another. No one said there had to be butterflies and rainbows and cookies about an admins post. But if you want people to like you and have a nice impression of your server the admin should probably play the part, or GMS, either or. Thats just basic customer service.
You got a point, maybe we should wait for our admin to post here. I know that im not a staff on oRO, i just love that server and i think i should play a part too as a player.
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 21, 2014, 12:54 AM
Ive played on your server, im not saying its crap. But its not all that wonderful either. -Shrugs- Thats great that you like it, to each their own. And its nice to see you're defending the server, really, the only one defending it.
Cool, what was your IGN there? did you reached transcend? When did you play? Did you made some friends on oRO?
It's weird, those who got banned really enjoyed the server. (gahd im repeating myself lol)
Lots of players love oRO =))), best low rate renewal server. Well, im not expecting something from you, i think you're the kind of player who sits in a town chatting all day long. I totally understand why you're not enjoying it. /no1
and yeah, idc if im the only one defending our server. If it bothers you my dear, see that X button located on the upper right of your browser? click it. It is available 24/7. /x
Quote from: Hummingbird on Jan 21, 2014, 04:12 AM
Lots of players are reading stuff on RMS. Some of them doesnt want to post due to unknown reason. Servers population is decreasing too. :(
This is enough for me. I'm satisfied.
I'm just glad that more people are being enlightened on how awesome Admin is. There are still some blind cult followers of him out there but I don't judge. Some people won't really bother posting here since not everyone is a drama queen. As for me, I'm going to finish watching this show and the spinoff on the other thread with my cheese flavored popcorns.
A great man once said, "GET OVER IT!".
kthxbyelol
Don't worry bro, your not the only one defending the server. Just to be clear, OriginalRO is named Original because it tries to stay true to the original server without many customisations (also it's low rate).
More people are joining, however due to some DDoS attacks in the past, merchants were logged off, so you get a false impression of how many are on the server. Most of the players on the sever are individuals and not alts or merchants. The population is increasing ^___^...
Admin is a guy who made some mistakes in dealing with a few of these very fragile subjects, but he doesn't deserve this 6 pages, two topics of hate. This is ridiculous. It's a free game, if you don't want to be apart of the server, leave your 2 cents about your experience and join another. It just feels like an endless grudge to be handled here.
All I got to say~
^This pretty much.
Quote from: Innomite on Jan 21, 2014, 04:42 AM
This is enough for me. I'm satisfied.
Same here, I'm satisfied from what i read now. Glad to know that you're reason for posting here is because of your unwavering hate to EliasB. You really want to see the downfall of originalRO dont you? Not gonna happen. Move on please. /gg
I was observing this thread every pages. Checking every forumers post from whos critizing to trolling.
I can see that everybody is focusing on EliasB's rage post regarding on this issue and talking about professionalism.
You see, this is INTERNET. You can make yourself look professional, nice, kind, mean, stupid, a-hole etc.. in front of everyone. No need to say more about that. EliasB or our Admin is a very straight forward person, what you see is what you get. /heh
@TriperHeyyyya~ IntenseROs link was already modified http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/ (http://www.originalro.com/board/index.php?/topic/139-reins-of-mount-class-mounts/) 2 down right? Anything else that needs to be modified? If none, im requesting for an immediate closing of this thread. Thanks. /no1
@Hummingbird: It seems that they forgot the rules on the website to be changed after changing the ones at the wiki [totally forgot that too until I rechecked everything to see if it was fine to close or not].
http://www.originalro.com/?module=pages&action=content&path=rules (http://www.originalro.com/?module=pages&action=content&path=rules)
After that is done, I will proceed as I told before.
Website got edited today.
Ok, done as I said before.
tl;dr of the topic - OriginalRO edited everything that had copied previously. Everything is now fine about what this topic concerns about their server.