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Offline Nairanduo

JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« on: Sep 04, 2020, 01:12 pm »
There's a new low rate coming in seven days, called JourneyRO. They claim that you have never experienced Ragnarok Online like it was intended to until you play their server. This is a blatant lie. As you can read from their laughable excuse of an advertisement, all they care about is creating Ragnarok Online enjoyable their way rather than wanting it to be a community experience. In short, it's advertised to be non-corrupted due to donation-free aspect of the game but falls into being yet another private server with tons of words but with no actions to them.

The Admins, particulary Lord J and Savvyon, are two very rude people with their own biases of how the game should be played. You're only allowed to create Wizards and builds that factors Soul Linkers while everything else in the world of RO is - to quote- "bad". Everything related to STR-based classes are bad. Any kind of "inefficient gameplay" and "slightest misstep" is unwelcome. You're a bad player if you die once or are too slow for their liking. You are especially terrible if you spend money on consumables - even Blue Potions from ranked brewers. It's hilarious to me how they're against multiclient but abuses it for their own benefit and rages to a point where they themselves feel like servers should change them once they've achieved their goals through said feature. They heavily believe their ways are the only way and nobody else can ever be wrong because they know "math". They truly believe their servers will "change" the core of private servers when in reality it's going to ruin the immersion and freedom Pre-Renewal has to offer. Savvyon loves to contradict himself saying solo is the true way to go with Kaahi until he gets stuck using his own method of leveling and needs a party mate with him to carry his very inefficient grinding.


So tl;dr, JourneyRO already fails when the two admins writes a novel in DMs on Discord, enough to make people leave because of their text walled biases and kicks people for not going their way. As someone said, if you value inefficient grinding(by their standards) by all means try it out and get blasted by nonsensical commentary and advices sprung on you. Or how you do everything wrong and only they know how to TrULy gRInD RaGnAROk OnLINe. You shall know how imperfect you are is but god forbid you challenge them a little bit.

Giving a warning of bad practitioner among admins since this is a common thing among privates at this point. It's not their first time making a server, either.
« Last Edit: Sep 04, 2020, 01:35 pm by Nairanduo »

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Offline Imperial Regalia

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #1 on: Sep 04, 2020, 04:31 pm »
There is only one admin. Myself. It is my server and I am the only staff member. The extent of Savyon's relationship with this project is that he plays an advisory role and helps with testing, along with other people. I have no interest in your guild drama or the personal relationship between you two. I've never been in any guild with him, I've never even played wizard or soul linker, I've never interacted with you before, and I've never started a server prior to this one.

Everyone is welcome at the journey. For those who are interested in learning more you may do so here.
« Last Edit: Sep 04, 2020, 05:54 pm by Imperial Regalia »
Official rates | Episode 8 | Authentic mechanics (no emulation bugs) | No multi-clienting | No donation gear | English speaking

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Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #2 on: Sep 05, 2020, 01:53 am »
First of all, that advertisement was made by me, and I have nothing to do with the staff of JourneyRO. I just made it because I'm a fan and excited for the server and what it has to offer.
Where in my advertisement post does it imply that Lord J doesn't want it to be a community experience?
Where have you ever heard that anywhere?
"oVeR bEfOrE iT eVeN bEgInS" cool assumption, bro. Is that why the discord has been growing and growing non-stop lately with many, many kind people who are enthusiastic to play?
Sounds like YOU'RE the one who wants it catered to you, and done your way, and since it wasn't you've come here to throw a fit.
You sound like a big baby.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline dahman

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #3 on: Sep 05, 2020, 03:45 pm »
. It's hilarious to me how they're against multiclient but abuses it for their own benefit .

how can u tell this when the server (with no multiclient allowed) is not open yet?

just curious while reading this...

Offline Nova

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #4 on: Sep 07, 2020, 06:25 am »
This admin is opening a 1x1x1x server as oldschool as possible without a cash shop while only relying on advertisements and charity donations like it was in the past to keep the server running and you're hating on that? What's wrong with you?
I am not associated with NovaRO.

Offline Sakaretsu

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #5 on: Sep 08, 2020, 12:14 am »
is this just a 1x vanilla server or has any development effort been added to make the game actually interesting?

And please don't bother trying to argue that killing 10,000 of a level 20 monster to make a 4 carded weapon is some kind of enlightening hardcore skill driven experience

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #6 on: Sep 08, 2020, 12:51 am »
is this just a 1x vanilla server or has any development effort been added to make the game actually interesting?

And please don't bother trying to argue that killing 10,000 of a level 20 monster to make a 4 carded weapon is some kind of enlightening hardcore skill driven experience

Ragnarok Online is an old, Korean MMORPG, and the name of the game is grinding and socializing. That's the game. You put in time, and you get rewarded for it. You then get bragging rights for your time investment, you get to show off to your peers and feel proud of your achievements either through experience, or loot.
How would higher rates make it more interesting? Everyone would get to max level faster, and get all their gear faster, and then what? Everyone is the same and not impressed by anyone else?
Old MMORPGs like these were never about skills, but about planning ahead, your time investment, and socializing.

What is going to make this server more interesting than most others is how much players will actually socialize for once, because they will NEED to socialize for once.
This is how RO was meant to be played.
We were not meant to multi-client and solo all the way to max level by ourselves, and marry our own characters, and abuse everything. It's supposed to be a social game.
This server is going to be interesting for social people, and players who liked the game as it was in its pure, intended, oldschool form.

You can read the advertisement post I made here if you want to learn more about what makes it special:
https://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/journey-ro!-u-s-based-pre-re-1x1x1-server-no-multi-clienting-no-cash-rewards/
Keep in mind that the name is being changed from JourneyRO to Ragnarok Travels.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Sakaretsu

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #7 on: Sep 08, 2020, 11:45 am »
okay so its just a filedump server with vanilla rates

best of luck to you

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #8 on: Sep 08, 2020, 01:55 pm »
okay so its just a filedump server with vanilla rates

best of luck to you

Okay so you were never interested in this server to begin with, and just wanted to passive-aggressively attack it for no reason while completely disregarding what makes it special.
Best of luck to you with your pay to win servers, and with players who solo play, multi-clienting the entire time.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Nairanduo

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #9 on: Sep 08, 2020, 09:47 pm »
how can u tell this when the server (with no multiclient allowed) is not open yet?

just curious while reading this...

They heavily abuse multi-clienting as with everyone else who has at least played RO once in their lifetime, while saying down with multi-clienting on other servers, demands other server owners to take down multi-client, as they're using multi client, while they are against multi-client. So now they're opening their own server that features no multi-client. Because nobody else catered to them. Kiiiinda sends a mixed message!

Okay so you were never interested in this server to begin with, and just wanted to passive-aggressively attack it for no reason while completely disregarding what makes it special.
Best of luck to you with your pay to win servers, and with players who solo play, multi-clienting the entire time.

LOL is that how you respond to people, mr. "I'm gonna snatch half of Nova/Talon/Origins/Ragna0's playerbase because we have the BEST idea in the world that hasn't been done a thousand times before!"?

You guys aren't even consistent with each other. Get real. You've done this whole solo but multi clienting a million times. What's there to disregard if it's true? You guys aren't special for having no duals. It's another generic server trying to act like it's peak gaming for being vanilla. It's a bunch of talk no action.

Best of luck 'cause y'all gonna drive away anyone who tries to join. You already did that on your Discord. Your continuous attitude towards a "hardcore ragnarok" only drives a dying game into dying faster.

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #10 on: Sep 08, 2020, 10:45 pm »
I don't even know what to say at this point lol. Are you drunk every post you make or what?
Are you sure you're talking about the right server here, buddy?
It's hilarious to me how they're against multiclient but abuses it for their own benefit and rages to a point where they themselves feel like servers should change them once they've achieved their goals through said feature.
They heavily abuse multi-clienting as with everyone else who has at least played RO once in their lifetime, while saying down with multi-clienting on other servers, demands other server owners to take down multi-client, as they're using multi client, while they are against multi-client. So now they're opening their own server that features no multi-client. Because nobody else catered to them. Kiiiinda sends a mixed message!
It's not even released yet, and you're talking as if it has already opened and as if the "admins have been abusing multi-clienting". This is just flat out false and makes you look like an idiot, bruh.
There's only one admin.

May I ask who you mean by "they" exactly? What mixed message is being sent by the admin by releasing a server that functions the way he and many others want it to function?
To me and many others I know, it sends a message of excitement and relief because yeah we're finally getting a server that functions how we want it to. What's mixed about that? Do you have a problem with players being happy about a server catered to their wants?
Don't worry, bruh. This servers won't steal too many players from your server because there's a 99% chance the server you like has multi-clienting, and multi-client-loving players won't care for Ragnarok Travels where they'd have to socialize.

is that how you respond to people, mr. "I'm gonna snatch half of Nova/Talon/Origins/Ragna0's playerbase because we have the BEST idea in the world that hasn't been done a thousand times before!"?
Yeah actually. I like responding to passive-aggressive people passive-aggressively. I don't care if that particular person is turned off from playing on this server, because they weren't going to anyways, and I'd rather someone like them didn't play on the same server as me.

By the way, the only other server I know of that has banned multi-clienting is SolaceRO, which I respect a lot for them doing so, but myself and many others do not want to play there because of the donation rewards, making it inherently unfair.
More importantly, SolaceRO is not hosted in North America, making the ping bad for North American players like me and many others who would be happier playing on Ragnarok Travels.

Well anyway you go ahead and keep bumping this thread with your idiotic posts if you like. It helps advertise the server if nothing else. /heh
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Phanneh

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #11 on: Sep 09, 2020, 10:16 am »
Keep in mind that the name is being changed from JourneyRO to Ragnarok Travels.

Why's that?

I don't remotely care for the idea of the server at all so I'm not invested, but I did find "Journey RO" to be a pretty communicative name.

Offline Imperial Regalia

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #12 on: Sep 09, 2020, 02:54 pm »
Why's that?

I don't remotely care for the idea of the server at all so I'm not invested, but I did find "Journey RO" to be a pretty communicative name.
To avoid conflict with Gravity's mobile game that uses "Journey". When I learned that it had closed down I was originally going to go ahead with the name (I do like the word), but it has come to my attention that the registration landing page is still up for some odd reason. This decision was made weeks ago.

Official rates | Episode 8 | Authentic mechanics (no emulation bugs) | No multi-clienting | No donation gear | English speaking

Visit Ragnarok Travels and learn more.

Offline Sakaretsu

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #13 on: Sep 10, 2020, 01:42 am »
Okay so you were never interested in this server to begin with, and just wanted to passive-aggressively attack it for no reason while completely disregarding what makes it special.
Best of luck to you with your pay to win servers, and with players who solo play, multi-clienting the entire time.

nah the advertisement got me interested because it sounded like a new experience, not a rehashed filedump of a server with absolutely no features

literally anyone can create a 1x server. its the f*** default configuration. banning multiclienting doesn't do anything except make anyone who has played a video game in the last 10 years realize how flawed the original design of RO's pvm infrastructure is.

There's a very good reason private servers are more popular than officials and I promise you it's not just because of the cash shops.

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #14 on: Sep 10, 2020, 02:36 am »
Of course no RO server is going to be a completely "new experience". It's an old donkey MMO from the early 2000s. What are you on about?
This server never even advertised itself as being a "new experience". It says "most people have never experienced what makes Ragnarok Online truly great." which is true because most people have only played on servers that allow multi-clienting, which takes the social aspects out of the game.

You're simply dismissing this server's unique qualities, and you're super hung up on the 1x rates for some reason.
What's the matter with you, eh?
Is this server coming out going to hurt your pay-to-win server's income?
Can you not level without buffs from your own multi-cliented priest and/or bard?
Too scared to talk to strangers? heh... pathetic. Typical multi-clienter.

I'd like you to name ONE other server that has even just these three qualities:
-Hosted in North America
-Bans multi-clienting
-Has no cash shop, or rewards of any kind for players giving money to the server

Go ahead. I'll wait.

There are of course other qualities that make this server unique but you'd have to actually use half a brain cell and *GASP* read the website. Got a problem with reading too, mate?
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Sakaretsu

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #15 on: Sep 10, 2020, 11:12 am »
KokoRO pretty much covers all of that except a dual clienting ban but it doesnt matter because banning dual clients is only viable when you have more than 2000 active players, and it's not possible to pull those kinds of numbers on a vanilla rates server that has basically no information on the website.

You can try all you want to FORCE a social experience, but the entire reason the ever coveted "true vanilla ragnarok experience" is unattainable is because that era of the game existed in a time before social media and commonly used chat programs like Discord (there were a few IRC-like chat hubs but absolutely nothing as prevalent as Discord is now).

Nobody in 2020 wants to waste their time with that. Nice strawmanning though, great job proving OP right if that is the kind of snide community your so called amazing server is housing :)
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 11:17 am by Sakaretsu »

Offline Savyon

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #16 on: Sep 10, 2020, 01:07 pm »
KokoRO pretty much covers all of that except a dual clienting ban

Travels is episodic, which makes a huge difference in how players will progress. Content updates change up a otherwise stagnant meta.

Offline dahman

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #17 on: Sep 10, 2020, 01:19 pm »
i whould love to see a 1/1/1  pretrans server again tho.

travelro will provide that feature - but only untill rebirth hits :(

cant it stay pretrans forever :P?

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #18 on: Sep 10, 2020, 02:14 pm »
Hah! What a joke you are, man.

KokoRO pretty much covers all of that except a dual clienting ban
You proceed unable to name one server, as I thought, proving my point that Ragnarok Travels is indeed unique, and not "another filedump server" as you claim it to be.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #1)

but it doesnt matter because banning dual clients is only viable when you have more than 2000 active players, and it's not possible to pull those kinds of numbers on a vanilla rates server
[sarcasm]Ah yes, but of course. Brilliant scientific deduction, good siiiiiir[/sarcasm]
Who's to say it couldn't one day have 2000 active players? You can predict the future or something? I didn't know you were a psychic!
I admit it's unlikely any private server could get 2000 active players. Regardless, yes banning multi-clienting is of course what a lot of players want, and it can make a "viable" game, mr. gaming scientist.
[sarcasm]Yes the server will implode or something if there's less than 2000 active players[/sarcasm] You're mistaken.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #2)

a vanilla rates server that has basically no information on the website.
There's info on the website, you just can't read apparently.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #3)

the entire reason the ever coveted "true vanilla ragnarok experience" is unattainable is because that era of the game existed in a time before social media and commonly used chat programs like Discord (there were a few IRC-like chat hubs but absolutely nothing as prevalent as Discord is now).
Probably the dumbest thing I've heard you say so far.
You realize that there's a chat system in the game players can use to communicate with each other, right? You don't need outside communication programs or social media websites like Discord or twitter to communicate and share game information. What in gods name makes you think outside communications and outside social media sites makes having a "vanilla experience" impossible?
Even if that was the case, do you not remember the many database websites and forums that were around back then like ROempire, and the one we're on right now? Do you not remember programs like ventrillo, Raidcall, MSN? I'm guessing you weren't even alive back then, kid.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #4)

Nobody in 2020 wants to waste their time with that
Then what's with all the people on the Ragnarok Travels discord already BEFORE it's even released?
I think you meant to say "I personally can't handle 1x rates". Yes we've established that.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #5)

great job proving OP right if that is the kind of snide community your so called amazing server is housing
Oh sorry if I'm too "snide" with people like you, kiddo. If you can't handle someone being "snide" to you after you start off as passive-aggressive, then I don't know what to say. Grow a pair?
I'm one person by the way, not the entire community. The community I've seen on discord so far more polite than I am, and I myself am a nice person. Just not to people like you for good reason.
(Pulling assumptions out of your butt #6)
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 02:31 pm by distilled1 »
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Nova

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #19 on: Sep 10, 2020, 02:34 pm »
KokoRO pretty much covers all of that except a dual clienting ban but it doesnt matter because banning dual clients is only viable when you have more than 2000 active players, and it's not possible to pull those kinds of numbers on a vanilla rates server that has basically no information on the website.

You can try all you want to FORCE a social experience, but the entire reason the ever coveted "true vanilla ragnarok experience" is unattainable is because that era of the game existed in a time before social media and commonly used chat programs like Discord (there were a few IRC-like chat hubs but absolutely nothing as prevalent as Discord is now).

Nobody in 2020 wants to waste their time with that. Nice strawmanning though, great job proving OP right if that is the kind of snide community your so called amazing server is housing :)

KokoRO doesn't need to be mentioned. No ill will towards those people, but it seems more like an art project and it's a hassle even getting the client to work and like you said you can multiclient there. There is no server out there at the moment that can offer the genuine classic experience. I agree with your second point. We'll never have the same experience again for pretty much any game that will ever come out from now on, because we have too many things. We are too modern.

This server will be really good and a godsend to a decent chunk of old and new players, especially those that come from the official servers. But only if the admin can deliver. If the server opens and we see that it's a buggy mess or he doesn't have the knowledge/expertise to give us a smooth experience then we go back in the waiting room for another long time. So let's hope and let's see.
I am not associated with NovaRO.

Offline Nairanduo

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #20 on: Sep 10, 2020, 06:38 pm »
Why should there be a multi-ban when it was never illegal in the first place? People would've multi client in 2002 too if they paid for more than two subscriptions which some people did! You want a genuine social interaction? Then stop throwing a tantrum when someone is a) gives a negative feedback, 2) stop contradicting yourself on what's viable or not. And 3) have a better attitude.

You are sniding and aggressive. All 3 of you, actually. It's not attractive by the least. So that's it. Now you know anytime Lord J, Savvyon and Distilled tries to make a server it's not going to work because they don't have social skills outside RO. They don't actually understand what it takes to run a Ragnarok Online server(or any game server for that matter) and is fundamentally missing the point of technology evolution. Things are not the same as 2002 era. Nobody wants a hardcore version. They want something new. Something that isn't a grf grab & go with ridiculous customs or customs fitting to one Job Class. Most people don't like chitchatting. Trying to force that along with your bland visualization again only makes a dying game die faster.

Like c'mon guys this isn't so hard.
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 06:55 pm by Nairanduo »

Offline Nova

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #21 on: Sep 10, 2020, 07:28 pm »
Why should there be a multi-ban when it was never illegal in the first place? People would've multi client in 2002 too if they paid for more than two subscriptions which some people did! You want a genuine social interaction? Then stop throwing a tantrum when someone is a) gives a negative feedback, 2) stop contradicting yourself on what's viable or not. And 3) have a better attitude.

You are sniding and aggressive. All 3 of you, actually. It's not attractive by the least. So that's it. Now you know anytime Lord J, Savvyon and Distilled tries to make a server it's not going to work because they don't have social skills outside RO. They don't actually understand what it takes to run a Ragnarok Online server(or any game server for that matter) and is fundamentally missing the point of technology evolution. Things are not the same as 2002 era. Nobody wants a hardcore version. They want something new. Something that isn't a grf grab & go with ridiculous customs or customs fitting to one Job Class. Most people don't like chitchatting. Trying to force that along with your bland visualization again only makes a dying game die faster.

Like c'mon guys this isn't so hard.

Can you stop arguing for a second and give some true info on wether these people are working together or if they have worked together on past servers before? And if they f*** up? As far as I can tell Lord J is the only admin/dev and Savyon is a helper. Do you have any negative info on them apart from the fact that you don't like them? Because, if that's the only negative point about them in your opinion and if the server does well then you will have slapped your own face in this thread.
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 07:34 pm by Nova »
I am not associated with NovaRO.

Offline Imperial Regalia

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #22 on: Sep 10, 2020, 07:53 pm »
Why should there be a multi-ban when it was never illegal in the first place? People would've multi client in 2002 too if they paid for more than two subscriptions which some people did!

You could actually only have one game account per credit card. This restriction is evidence that multi-clienting was never intended by the developers.
Official rates | Episode 8 | Authentic mechanics (no emulation bugs) | No multi-clienting | No donation gear | English speaking

Visit Ragnarok Travels and learn more.

Offline Sakaretsu

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #23 on: Sep 10, 2020, 08:02 pm »
man the denial is strong in this thread

Offline Necrophiliac

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #24 on: Sep 10, 2020, 08:20 pm »
Why should there be a multi-ban when it was never illegal in the first place? People would've multi client in 2002 too if they paid for more than two subscriptions which some people did! You want a genuine social interaction? Then stop throwing a tantrum when someone is a) gives a negative feedback, 2) stop contradicting yourself on what's viable or not. And 3) have a better attitude.

You are sniding and aggressive. All 3 of you, actually. It's not attractive by the least. So that's it. Now you know anytime Lord J, Savvyon and Distilled tries to make a server it's not going to work because they don't have social skills outside RO. They don't actually understand what it takes to run a Ragnarok Online server(or any game server for that matter) and is fundamentally missing the point of technology evolution. Things are not the same as 2002 era. Nobody wants a hardcore version. They want something new. Something that isn't a grf grab & go with ridiculous customs or customs fitting to one Job Class. Most people don't like chitchatting. Trying to force that along with your bland visualization again only makes a dying game die faster.

Like c'mon guys this isn't so hard.

Why do you care so much about whether you can multi-client or not on this server?  There are people who want to play "the hardcore version", it's why they have people in their discord waiting for it to open.  You're making it sound like they have some obligation to make the most successful server they can, when it sounds like this guy is just doing this as a hobby to make a server he'd want to play on that he's funding himself.

Offline Nairanduo

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #25 on: Sep 10, 2020, 08:30 pm »
Can you stop arguing for a second and give some true info on wether these people are working together or if they have worked together on past servers before? And if they f*** up? As far as I can tell Lord J is the only admin/dev and Savyon is a helper. Do you have any negative info on them apart from the fact that you don't like them? Because, if that's the only negative point about them in your opinion and if the server does well then you will have slapped your own face in this thread.

Can you stop being a white knight for a second and tell me why you're so adamant on defending three people who are very clearly working together to create a server they think is revolutionary when it's not? They have the same ideals, two of them are on this page every single day throwing a huge load on anyone that disagrees with them. I don't dislike them as individualists but I do hate their narcissistic personality disorder mindset. They're not offering anything new yet time and time again pretending like they're the messiah of Ragnarok Online.


Why do you care so much about whether you can multi-client or not on this server?  There are people who want to play "the hardcore version", it's why they have people in their discord waiting for it to open.  You're making it sound like they have some obligation to make the most successful server they can, when it sounds like this guy is just doing this as a hobby to make a server he'd want to play on that he's funding himself.

Ask the hosts of JourneyRO why they're against it so much, other than SoCiAl InTeRacTionS and GaMeChangeR. And why they're so persistent on trying to change something that's obviously not going to change, ever. It's a dead server! I also intended this to die out but they keep responding with the most meme answer to date so naturally I should say something.

man the denial is strong in this thread

Sure is.

You could actually only have one game account per credit card. This restriction is evidence that multi-clienting was never intended by the developers.

That was never a thing. A business never limits a payout to one credit card. Nowhere in the world does this. If you had the money you could have several accounts. To say that it's limited to one and being intended as such is a biased view you wish were true. That's not how business work. How do you think bots ran rampart? By limiting each RMTer to one credit card? Wow.


Offline Necrophiliac

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #26 on: Sep 10, 2020, 08:40 pm »
Ask the hosts of JourneyRO why they're against it so much, other than SoCiAl InTeRacTionS and GaMeChangeR. And why they're so persistent on trying to change something that's obviously not going to change, ever. It's a dead server! I also intended this to die out but they keep responding with the most meme answer to date so naturally I should say something.

You complain about them not accepting negative feedback, but when you post "SoCiAl InTeRacTionS and GaMeChangeR" it really makes it seem like you aren't trying to give constructive feedback.  It seems obvious they're against multi-clienting because it's their server and how they would want to play.  I still don't know why you are against it.  From an outsider perspective that doesn't know the history you had with them before this server outside of the fact that they were elitist you being so against them not having multi-clienting looks the same to me as if you complained that they weren't making a high rate server because they played a high rate before and benefited from leveling faster. 
I mean is the problem you want to play this server and multi-client on it?
If someone you didn't have past issues with made a server without multi-clienting would you be so against it?  It's hard to tell if you're against the server idea (1x episodic starting at episode 5 banning multi-clienting) or if you just have a problem with the server owner from past interactions and how he decided to advertise his server.
« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 08:55 pm by Necrophiliac »

Offline Savyon

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #27 on: Sep 10, 2020, 09:44 pm »
If you don't like our server, don't play it. The end.

Offline Imperial Regalia

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #28 on: Sep 11, 2020, 12:16 am »
That was never a thing. A business never limits a payout to one credit card. Nowhere in the world does this. To say that it's limited to one and being intended as such is a biased view you wish were true. That's not how business work. How do you think bots ran rampart? By limiting each RMTer to one credit card? Wow.

1 Credit Card can't be used for multiple accounts - iRO GM team.
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Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #29 on: Sep 11, 2020, 01:36 am »
Nairanduo, and Sakaretsu, if anyone here is "working together" it's probably you two since you're both just throwing negativity at this RO project for seemingly no reason.
It's as if you're both extremely threatened by this server merely existing. Quite sad really.

I don't even know Savyon. I've spoken to him in the Ragnarok Travels discord a few times since I'd joined it. That's it.
I know Lord J even less, and again, he is the ONLY one in charge of Ragnarok Travels. So you two can stop with your conspiracy theories and paranoid delusions.
I myself am just a fan of the server, and I like defending it from unwarranted negativity, and false accusations from people like you two.
I also like proving how stupid, and insane you both sound, pulling assumptions right out of your butt... AGAIN. lol
You're both insane. I swear to god. Get some professional help.

Also, Lord J, that screenshot is awesome. I didn't even realize it required more than 1 credit card to multi-client back in the good ol' iRO days.
Suck on it, multi-client-defending scum.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline Ara

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #30 on: Sep 11, 2020, 03:21 am »
ngl im not really any part of the playerbase that this server's aimed and im really just here to read memes but

at least bring up some kind of okay points, like how they've already pushed back their release date twice, and their only "teaser" screencaps is a website that's either just made in some kind of image editing software or sloppily thrown together in like half an hour, and a screencap of an anime girl made in ASCII(?) Like man, those margins/padding/whatever look gross. Throw a semi-transparent box behind the text in the top banner so it's actually readable or change something, idk. You're missing a . in the ellipses. Add some more space under the "Continue Reading."

like weren't they supposed to have launched by now and that's the only teaser they've put out?

again, i dont have any desire to play on that kind of server but even I'm disappointed that it's been pushed back that long because it delays the possibility of being able to watch it crash and burn, though the lack of substantial updates does build the hype for people doing the same thing I'm doing rn i guess lol

not to mention how abrasive/kind of cringe their advertisement page was...

Also the "Impossible to bot" claim lol

Offline distilled1

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #31 on: Sep 11, 2020, 04:16 am »
Personally, I wouldn't judge a Ragnarok server's quality based on the appearance or aesthetic of its corresponding website. I think that's a dumb and shallow thing to do.
The teaser screenshots for the Ragnarok Travels website looked really nice, but I'd play a server even if its website looked like beginner html like KokoRO.
The server is what should be important, not how much time the owner wasted in photoshop or on their website's layout.
To each their own though I guess. Some people like staring at websites I guess. Kinda cringey like people who take their forum persona seriously with their character in their signature.

You're right about those two knuckleheads though, Ara. They sure picked some stupid points to attack Ragnarok Travels on.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline FlorentinePogen

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #32 on: Sep 11, 2020, 06:08 am »
Hi haters,

thank you for the advertisment, i was looking for a server like this.
I'll try it, don't care of angry kid's opinion.

Offline Nova

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #33 on: Sep 11, 2020, 06:48 am »
Can you stop being a white knight for a second and tell me why you're so adamant on defending three people who are very clearly working together to create a server they think is revolutionary when it's not? They have the same ideals, two of them are on this page every single day throwing a huge load on anyone that disagrees with them. I don't dislike them as individualists but I do hate their narcissistic personality disorder mindset. They're not offering anything new yet time and time again pretending like they're the messiah of Ragnarok Online.

Alright so you don't have any bad info on them.

ngl im not really any part of the playerbase that this server's aimed and im really just here to read memes but

at least bring up some kind of okay points, like how they've already pushed back their release date twice, and their only "teaser" screencaps is a website that's either just made in some kind of image editing software or sloppily thrown together in like half an hour, and a screencap of an anime girl made in ASCII(?) Like man, those margins/padding/whatever look gross. Throw a semi-transparent box behind the text in the top banner so it's actually readable or change something, idk. You're missing a . in the ellipses. Add some more space under the "Continue Reading."

like weren't they supposed to have launched by now and that's the only teaser they've put out?

again, i dont have any desire to play on that kind of server but even I'm disappointed that it's been pushed back that long because it delays the possibility of being able to watch it crash and burn, though the lack of substantial updates does build the hype for people doing the same thing I'm doing rn i guess lol

not to mention how abrasive/kind of cringe their advertisement page was...

Also the "Impossible to bot" claim lol
I kinda agree with this. If you talk a big game you better deliver. We'll see.
I am not associated with NovaRO.

Offline Xan Sietry

Re: JourneyRO is over before it even begins.
« Reply #34 on: Sep 11, 2020, 09:49 am »
I myself is working on a project and I feel like this kind of thread is not really good for the private server community.

Most of us work on servers because we are passionate about Ragnarok Online. I'm not taking any side here, as a still active developer I just feel like we should all support the new upcoming servers no matter what. If you don't agree with the views they put forward then you should simply pass your way and move on to something that will be a little more of your own tastes.

I do have a constructive criticism for this project tho. I don't know if this is how their website will look on the actual release, but people want to dig out the info and when you own a "business" the impression you make is very important. I am aware this server won't be maintaining a "business model" since it won't offer any type of donations, but you still need to maintain a marketing mindset similar to if you were building a small business

People are indeed attracted by professional websites because it says a lot. When I personally come across a website that everyone can download for free on rAthena or hercules for example, I know it will most likely not be really a good sign. I'm not saying you can't provide a good experience to your players that way, but it's not what will attract the most players.

I would personally suggest the owner of this project to check out the many professional looking Wordpress themes out there. It doesn't require much php or css knowledge and with wordpress you have access to many plugins that will really make your website standout.

When you want to buy something online and you come across a very cheap looking website you won't trust it as much as you would for the opposite. Looks can also be deceiving, I've seen many good looking website offer a very debatable experience on the server itself, but it's still the base of marketing, so if you can offer both you will grow much more efficiently.

All I wish for the future is that people will still work on private server projects because no matter what people say RO will always live on, it's a timeless game that thrives on nostalgia. Maybe the community in general is not as active as it used to be, but I've been playing some of the biggest MMORPGs like FF14 for example and I'm having a lot of fun, but it's a totally different experience. On RO you can really feel like you can be apart of a community that recognize you, it's not on the same scale of population, so, you can experience a totally different feeling playing RO.

To resume, lets support each other guys. I wish the best of luck to this server and I wish the other people on this thread to simply find a server they enjoy and also that they surround themselves with less negativity. Lets just enjoy this old game for what it is, no matter what your views are of how it should be represented in 2020.

Have a good one guys,

Xan

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