i dont know if this is well you know.
http://artificial-networks.net/main/
http://www.pumpkin-ro.com/
which is real? or it was a free web template?
take note that artificialnetworks = filthryRO
which had a a reputation of Site plagiarism
Based on a pm I got this might be a sharing template case. Moving to rant and rave so the other side of the story can be told.
Hello Xenorth? XenorthRO/CadilacRO/etcetc and more of your server dies.
Dude, before you posting this kind of report try to ask the owner of pumpkin first for information.
ur so pathetic,
do you nid some attention here and eathena?
if you have a problem with me let me know,
Edit: the owner of pumpkinRO is my friend i didnt steal the website he gave it to me... with permission that i can use it on my server.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 08, 2010, 04:59 AM
Hello Xenorth? XenorthRO/CadilacRO/etcetc and more of your server dies.
Dude, before you posting this kind of report try to ask the owner of pumpkin first for information.
ur so pathetic,
do you nid some attention here and eathena?
if you have a problem with me let me know,
Edit: the owner of pumpkinRO is my friend i didnt steal the website he gave it to me... with permission that i can use it on my server.
Jeez, Look who's a little pissed.
PumpkinRO had the website originally; the (c) at the bottom of both pages display the same designer and the same coder, so why not ask Eradicate himself if he re-coded the website for Artificial?
Or ask Nipah / Malice in Wonderland if the website was, indeed, shared.
Easy way to resolve it, especially if Artificial = Filthy = thief.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 08, 2010, 04:59 AMEdit: the owner of pumpkinRO is my friend i didnt steal the website he gave it to me... with permission that i can use it on my server.
I smell bs. This is not what the owner of PumpkinRO told me; he never handed it to you. Did you steal it, honey?
I hate it when people are too lazy/cheap to have their own website made, and just steal someone else's hard work. :<
Edit: I just looked at Artificial's source code, and it made me lmao. xD
I mean, just look at this (http://artificial-networks.net/main/?module=community&action=guild).
I did not re-code the website for Artificial. I didn't recode it for anyone. When I noticed the same website (Sept. 24), I first thought the person was stealing the website as well so I notified the person I talked to when creating PumpkinRO's site (I'm not sure if he is Nipah or not though). However, the person never messaged me back and I thought a topic similar to this would've popped up closer to the date when I messaged. Since neither happened, I just assumed the website was given and that the person knew about it. Got no idea what happened for certain though...
Thank you Eradicate for taking the time of posting here!
Just in case, I took screenshots of the source code and the link Kyomi posted.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2j62zb6.jpg)
http://i52.tinypic.com/2j62zb6.jpg (http://i52.tinypic.com/2j62zb6.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/ae003b.jpg)
http://i53.tinypic.com/ae003b.jpg (http://i53.tinypic.com/ae003b.jpg)
I hate thieves. =/
I probably should have taken screenshots, yeah. xD
Thanks for allowing me to be lazy, Tom! <3
Lol. We have a winnar
Talk to remco and take a screenshot that he don't really give me the website.
The reason why he gave it to me its because. hes purchasing a new one.
Quote from: Eradicate on Oct 08, 2010, 07:00 PM
I just assumed the website was given and that the person knew about it. Got no idea what happened for certain though...
@Eradicate:
as you can see, i had the latest code which is the fixed login button.
Posted on: Oct 09, 2010, 05:16 pm
End this the site was given yeah
NEW Pumpkin site
http://pumpkin-ro.com/new/?module=news&action=view
- Thanks
Still it'll be much better if its original. :'<
Showing that they're making a new site, doesn't prove that it was given to you. :<
Maybe a representative from PumpkinRO can prove against him? Even if they are getting a new website, that does not mean you can steal an old design. They bought the design/coding after all; they might use it again in the future or as back-up.
Just give us prove that shows PumpkinRO's Admin allowed you to use the same design. That way, we'll confirm for sure.
Idk why are you guys making everything seem like PumpkinRO is an all-new server?
Same team, from veeeRO.
I don't think that's the main point of this thread... to say whether PumpkinRO is an all-new server or not. It's about how some people take other servers' website designs without permission and such.
Still waiting for the proof XD, but I guess that will probably never come.
I have tryed contacting the administrator of Pumpkin-RO but he hasn't replied to any yet.
and in the end i got flamed just for asking?
@artificial
Im sorry if offended you in anyway , it's just because i know a staff from pumpkin-RO and we both wondered why your server have the same template. He didn't like to post a thread here since he know that he will be flamed at the end ( which happened to me ). We just want to know th truth behind this.
@community
i am now very well satisfied that eradicated have stated that he did not recode the site for any other servers , again im not saying that artificial stole it or whatever.
Sorry for the late reply, but I'll step in to clear our servers name. We did not in anyway authorize/hand out/resell/give rights to/ect. our page's design and coding. While I'd like to talk to the server owner of Artificial about this, unless he/she PM's me personally I won't go out of my way to do so. I have to say it's a bit... not pathetic, rather embarrassing for Artificial to steal a template like this. With how many users constantly check each server, they should have known it's only a matter of time before they were found out.
As for the whole "It's just VRO" comment. Sorry but I would like to reiterate this is NOT VROv2. While I may share some bonds with VRO this does not make PRO a repeat server. There's a massive difference in the way it's run, the community, the end goal, and the team. All I do for VRO is troubleshoot, create a few odds and end quests and npc functions. PRO is my server and I'm not about to let it be called VRO. Take some time looking at both servers and you'll easily see the effort put into designing PRO. "Same server same staff" is a gross perversion of the time and effort I've put into cultivating Pumpkin, I'd ask you refrain from comparing the two servers if at all possible.
The owner of veeRO gave it to me, and yes he said he own the pRO too with his friend (i dont want to tell the main reasons)
Please ask remco for this matter. to get the answer...
Remco cannot reply here since his busy with his work.... so thats why.
- just wait and lets see to make this clear...
Lol... it's time's like these I swear you should need to take an IQ test before coming online. Do you think Rem and I don't talk? How long do you plan on keeping this farce up
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2rqk360.jpg)
Just stop and admit to it or let it die, you're just giving your server a bad name by constantly lying and acting innocent.
P.S. Thanks Snapshot for posting this, I honestly never noticed.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 19, 2010, 10:49 PM
Lol do you need an IQ Site he said.. thats an old one who cares =,=" ive work to remco and he gave that to me lol please contact him to post here
Posted on: Oct 19, 2010, 02:20 pm
This our conversation i don't want to put all because some of our conversation are private.
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/1.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/2.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/3.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/4.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/5.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/6.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/7.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/8.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/9.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/10.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/11.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/12.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/13.bmp)
If you guys really nid the whole story i can post here, but this is giving remco and me a bad name.
I apologize for quoting all the images, but I did incase this guy decides to delete them. I have also downloaded each of them and will be uploading them to my own photobucket account. Why?
1. You exposed that Veee stole JelloRO's website (see screenshot number 6), and on your second screenshot we see a link on the top. That link was an exploit to jRO's security. Veee also accessed Kiwi's email to "mess" with jRO, according to Kiwi when she clarified the "hacking" situation.
2. You encourage Veee to log on Kiwi's hotmail again. Why? I don't know.
Also, on your screenshots Veee clearly answers "my friend" when you ask him who owns PumpkinRO. He's not PumpkinRO's owner then? Good. I'm happy.
Yeah in case if i nid to post more picture here i will, but i still respect vee and his friend. i don't want to revealed the pro/vro secrets here and etc.... so i will be silent until we have the results.
someday that pro owner will beg for my forgiveness i promise u that,
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 20, 2010, 01:07 AM
Yeah in case if i nid to post more picture here i will, but i still respect vee and his friend. i don't want to revealed the pro/vro secrets here and etc.... so i will be silent until we have the results.
someday that pro owner will beg for my forgiveness i promise u that,
Others will be watching that statement of yours very closely. You're basically threatening another server owner because you're pissy that you've been found out as a petty thief? Yeah, okay... you're real bright. You already look pathetic enough at this point in time.
Just keep digging your own grave, whilst keeping everyone else amused.
Edit: i am not posting until they post and lets see.
http://www.pumpkin-ro.com/board/index.php?/topic/770-getting-tired-of-disconnect/page__gopid__13073#entry13073
WOW YOU GET MORE RESPECT +111111111 TO YOU
hows pumpkin ?
thats called a revenge. but a simple way. ur lucky i still respect remco
- nope i dont earn some respect for you gtfo.
It's fun really. +1 Longer e-peen for you. You ARE KINGZ OF INTARWEBZ.
So uhh, what's the prize?
Yeap. Imma go afk for a bit now till it is solved. Grow up crybaby. :) +1 to your server!!!
Yeah your server will get a lot more people now!
Since the thread was put down, let me fix up what happened.
Artificial is currently putting down the server(PumpkinRO) (most probably DDO attack?Dunno. Not a techie here.)
And he's bragging at the forum for what he is doing.
LOLOLOLOL.
Artificial Network Server be put to Hall of Shame please. :) Ty.
Hall of Shame ? anything wrong ? our server didn't do anything on your server unless one of our admin which is me... again goodluck
umadbro?
(http://i52.tinypic.com/bhcfp.png)
Recommend you blacklist this particular owner's server. These kinds of malicious activities and forefronts should not be encouraged none-the-less accepted.
Not to mention that he's trying to loophole rules by saying that because he's doing these activities, his server cannot be held responsibile. That's nonsense-talk. He as the owner is a direct representative of his server and his actions, especially that of regarding attacking other servers and being overall malicious about competition (direct or indirect), should be taken with all consideration.
It is clear that his lack of respect for other server's is not just in competitive form, but a burning hatred that pushes him to try and sabotage the competition for the sake of his own server. That said, his server itself should be punished by being removed from the RMS top listing and blacklisted.
It's 4AM in the morning so some of this might've not made much sense, sorry for that. But you should get what I mean just fine.
Did he really shut the server down? O,o Even if he did RMS can't do anything about it because it's not in the ToS. RMS isn't the RO police ;)
Not really shut down. Like, he shuts it down every 5 mins or so.
Just hall of shame. :o
lololol i cn hackz i pr0
Way to prove our point. Bravo, Artificial, bravo. You're taking revenge for what? Because they did what's right and reported you? What a poor human being you are, sir.
+1 to Hall of Shame. Stealing and using a stolen website, "hacking" another server(s) (maybe he was involved on JelloRO's hacking too?), threats against another server...
The website template was handed to anRO due to the simple fact that we were getting a new website. (www.pumpkin-ro.com).
It was not paid for, stolen, replicated or whatever form of plagiarism.
He asked and i merely provided.
Lets all move on with our lives now.
<3 Brenth.
offtopic: wow, 2nd post on rms, yaay.
Quote from: Nipah on Oct 25, 2010, 06:48 AM
The website template was handed to anRO due to the simple fact that we were getting a new website. (www.pumpkin-ro.com).
It was not paid for, stolen, replicated or whatever form of plagiarism.
He asked and i merely provided.
Lets all move on with our lives now.
<3 Brenth.
offtopic: wow, 2nd post on rms, yaay.
If you just handed them the template, then what's with all the Self-defense?
Quote from: Nipah on Oct 25, 2010, 06:48 AM
The website template was handed to anRO due to the simple fact that we were getting a new website. (www.pumpkin-ro.com).
It was not paid for, stolen, replicated or whatever form of plagiarism.
He asked and i merely provided.
Now I'm truly confused. That's not what you told me when I asked you when this topic first popped up...
(http://i53.tinypic.com/11mg84w.jpg)
Isn't that kind of contradictory?
You either lied to me, or you're lying to RMS right now. Are you defending Artificial? Or yourself, for that matter? Everyone seems to be 100% that you're Veee. Including Artificial.
Is your name Brenth? I thought it was Paul... at least that's what you said here. (http://www.pumpkin-ro.com/board/index.php?/topic/3-introduction/)
Also, you handed out the website and Malice didn't know about that? Great communication between the team right there.
Kindly explain everything. From the start.
PS: Since the website is already up, I didn't feel the need of blacking out the spoiler lol.
Maybe the one who posted on this thread isn't really the admin O,o
That's just twisted LOL. Can anyone confirm if that's actually Nipah posting? If it's actually Nipah, what was the deal with the blackmailing as well? Do you have anything else to say to that? I mean, why would you give a template to your blackmailer or support him in your previous post? I'm guessing that's not really Nipah who posted here.
And yeah, not enough communication between GMs apparently. We would like more clarification D<!
This is confusing. As i see, there's a lot more than what i knew about it. Weird. lol
I notice a vast difference in the way this Nipah talks compared to the Nipah I've spoken to. Just to toss in a few coins.
How about let him post about the issue in the pumpkinRO forums so we know what's really happening.
Or, you can call him Roulette or w/e from veeeRO.
They claim that they're not the same staff, or w/e. Who cares, really.
Well, what goes around comes around, what happened to Jello, now to you.
Have fun mate.
Quote from: MeowyMeow on Oct 26, 2010, 08:12 AM
Or, you can call him Roulette or w/e from veeeRO.
They claim that they're not the same staff, or w/e. Who cares, really.
Well, what goes around comes around, what happened to Jello, now to you.
Have fun mate.
I fully admit I used to be Roulette, however VRO and PRO are two separate servers run two separate ways.
Getting back to what's at hand I'll explain this fully now that Nipah realizes this kid isn't going to stop anytime soon. Here's the situation:
Basically, after he got called out for being a lying, cheating little sneak, Artificial decided to DDOS after I went to sleep. I woke up and we spent all day fixing this BS (3 days ago). Then again two days ago, he logs in and DDOS' us.
As for nipah, he said that ONLY to prevent that pathetic excuse for a server owner from attacking us again, thinking it would give us a break, unfortunately, Artificial can't muster up enough respect of dignity to stop waving his e-peen around. So in terms to that, NO nipah didn't give away the layout, NO nipah didn't sell it, yes, he lied there to try and preserve our server's stability in exchange for looking like a fool. After putting this much time into it, we decided to stay quiet and let him have his moment for the greater good but he just had to keep pushing it.
So we've been dealing with 3-4 days of constant DDOS attacks trying to bring down our server. Luckily we have a community of wonderful and dedicated players who understand this punk has to take out his aggression of running a failure of a server on one that's already beat his population on the first day of opening.
At least if he was legitimately hacking us we could hold a little respect but all he's doing is going around to stress test sites and spamming us. NO talent, and it reflect in your server. Maybe if you spent half as much time as you did harassing, and learned how to run your server correctly, it wouldn't be such a failure.
Quote from: Tom~ on Oct 19, 2010, 11:48 PM
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 19, 2010, 10:49 PM
Lol do you need an IQ Site he said.. thats an old one who cares =,=" ive work to remco and he gave that to me lol please contact him to post here
Posted on: Oct 19, 2010, 02:20 pm
This our conversation i don't want to put all because some of our conversation are private.
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/1.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/2.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/3.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/4.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/5.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/6.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/7.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/8.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/9.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/10.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/11.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/12.bmp)
(http://hades-ro.net/pump/13.bmp)
If you guys really nid the whole story i can post here, but this is giving remco and me a bad name.
I apologize for quoting all the images, but I did incase this guy decides to delete them. I have also downloaded each of them and will be uploading them to my own photobucket account. Why?
1. You exposed that Veee stole JelloRO's website (see screenshot number 6), and on your second screenshot we see a link on the top. That link was an exploit to jRO's security. Veee also accessed Kiwi's email to "mess" with jRO, according to Kiwi when she clarified the "hacking" situation.
2. You encourage Veee to log on Kiwi's hotmail again. Why? I don't know.
Also, on your screenshots Veee clearly answers "my friend" when you ask him who owns PumpkinRO. He's not PumpkinRO's owner then? Good. I'm happy.
Happeh ? post more and i will post all of our conversation i still respect nipah but not you .. bish.
I don't need the respect of an arrogant childish punk like you. Post all you want but I wasn't involved in JRO's closing, and I HIGHLY doubt he was either. Go back to the gutter you crawled out from.
ASKING TO REMOVE ARTIFICIALRO FROM RMS LISTING AND PLACE IN HALL OF SHAME
That sounds interesting.
I will send more proofs and conversation with nipah and me if some staff ask for it not going to post here.
HALL OF SHAME pretty nice,
(http://i56.tinypic.com/30iupu9.png)
Oh look at my proof too. I know this is borderline trolling but I needed to prove a point.
You're ADMITTING to abusing competitive servers.
Posted on: Oct 27, 2010, 08:08 pm
(http://i56.tinypic.com/30iupu9.png)
Oh look at my proof too. I know this is borderline trolling but I needed to prove a point.
You're ADMITTING to abusing competitive servers.
that was nice.
keithxbye come on dude, mine is real.
@topic: just bring ur server up x)
oh ima ignore this rms thing bye.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 28, 2010, 04:13 AM
that was nice.
keithxbye come on dude, mine is real.
@topic: just bring ur server up x)
oh ima ignore this rms thing bye.
Lol you fail.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 28, 2010, 04:13 AM
that was nice.
keithxbye come on dude, mine is real.
@topic: just bring ur server up x)
oh ima ignore this rms thing bye.
Douche Sad to see people already at fault and yet do more harm. What kind of personality is that.
Don't be bitter dude, even if you DDoS pumpkinRO we will never transfer to your aeRO.
I have to say, the best part isn't Artificial being a faggot, it's RMS being tralalalala we aren't gonna do s*** because we'd rather have some drama to help keep otherwise boring and dead boards alive than retain any dignity and put a foot down in regards to the situation.
Your forums are about RO servers. Rant and Rave s*** doesn't happen often so when it does, you have to hold onto it pretty tightly I guess.
This is RMS. If it's enough to make outside parties amused by what's going on, then it's enough for RMS to turn the other cheek and show it's true colors. I guess what I've been hearing about RMS is pretty true, then. Sharp decline and been going on for a while.
You're not 4chan, bro. Get over it and start being what you advertise to be. A Ragnarok Online community with rules, and as far as I know stealing someones website is enough to put them in the Hall of Shame and blacklist them.
I think I speak for the 200 players of Pumpkin-RO when I say that the douchebag who's bringing down the server should be punished in anyway, even if it's something small that can be done by RMS. Hopefully RMS will actually give him some form of punishment, cause alot of players when looking for a server come here first... and will most likely not join his server if he's listed in hall of shame / removed from listing. Openly bragging about it here too, you shouldn't give any support to a person like this on your website. Just my 2 cents though.
Quote from: Abversen on Oct 28, 2010, 08:38 AM
I have to say, the best part isn't Artificial being a faggot, it's RMS being tralalalala we aren't gonna do s*** because we'd rather have some drama to help keep otherwise boring and dead boards alive than retain any dignity and put a foot down in regards to the situation.
Your forums are about RO servers. Rant and Rave s*** doesn't happen often so when it does, you have to hold onto it pretty tightly I guess.
This is RMS. If it's enough to make outside parties amused by what's going on, then it's enough for RMS to turn the other cheek and show it's true colors. I guess what I've been hearing about RMS is pretty true, then. Sharp decline and been going on for a while.
You're not 4chan, bro. Get over it and start being what you advertise to be. A Ragnarok Online community with rules, and as far as I know stealing someones website is enough to put them in the Hall of Shame and blacklist them.
You obviously haven't been here too long.
Quote from: Artificial on Oct 28, 2010, 04:13 AM
that was nice.
keithxbye come on dude, mine is real.
@topic: just bring ur server up x)
oh ima ignore this rms thing bye.
Like I said before, If your not guilty, then WHAT is with the Dramas!? If you didn't do anything, then your fine. HOWEVER, you really have made it worse for yourself
Cool story bro
Well, actually, I just checked on eAthena, and mmotop100 (who I thought to be Vee's eAthena forum account name with VeeeRO's banner before; and VeeeRO has mmotop100 in its domain after all) has PumpkinRO for his banner (and both people's ages are of 22... though that's still a speculation). But meh, I don't really care if he's Vee or whoever. Maybe they're friends? I'm sorry if I made a false accusation--just my thoughts and observations.
I just despite seeing people taking other people's website designs and whatnot. I hope this issue is already resolved/will be resolved soon. That DDoS attack is such a low blow tsk. It just makes the person looks worse.
Quote from: Yukino on Oct 29, 2010, 01:20 AM
Well, actually, I just checked on eAthena, and mmotop100 (who I thought to be Vee's eAthena forum account name with VeeeRO's banner before; and VeeeRO has mmotop100 in its domain after all) has PumpkinRO for his banner (and both people's ages are of 22... though that's still a speculation). But meh, I don't really care if he's Vee or whoever. Maybe they're friends? I'm sorry if I made a false accusation--just my thoughts and observations.
You're pretty funny.
Your post made my day; they're both the same people obviously, they can be schizophrenic all they want, but in the end we still know that its a side server, that's still trash, both same teams, who cares? Different alias, they can be incognito too. It's karma. Did that to Jello, it's just happening to you again, and again. Terrible.
Look at the reviews for example : http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=11229&itv=6&url_sname=PumpkinRO&page_num=1
There's a few.
Take a look @ Page 2.
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The features of this server are okay for a PVM type of server. They claim to be a WoE oriented server but the features of this server say otherwise. Basically false info for people looking for WoE servers. The staff get easily offended and right away ban you with no warning, it even effects your in game status if you "troll" on the forums. Stating facts about the server in their forums is called trolling so it seems. The server is basically based on Kawaii headgears and PVM. Bad WoE - server.
Owner's reply:
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We're starting WoE next week so I'd ask you to hold your tongue, but it appears you're already banned. This leads me to believe you're the one who made the topic FIX THIS S*** SERVER and posted nothing but flame and troll material. While we're not easily offended, we don't play childish games with those looking for attention. I'm sorry you weren't happy here but seeing as you took the immature route here, I wish you would have at least been truthful on the review. This is just a troll review.
And another thing is that, I think you're pretty confused about your own server features, just like how 'sexually confused' you are about your own identity. A WoE server does not mean implementing WoE next week; or whatsoever. Trying to add WoE 3.0 into your own server won't make things look like a WoE server, veeeRO was already kawaii enough, there you are trying to add "WoE" into your other server, just to make it seem WoE oriented? luuulzzz.
If you can't make good what your server features says, remove it.
You can't deny the fact that you guys banned people randomly. I was the first few who registered on the forums under 'meow', along with Mike, and Big Daddy aka Saint. You guys banned us off; without a reason. That was when Jello was up. Maybe you saw us there, and felt butthurt that we went there? Who knows. Ban people off without a reason; hating trolls, not learning how to deal with them instead of just "LOLBANHAMMER" them, shows really
HOW MATURE you guys are actually.
No one is trolling reviews; or the server. You guys are the biggest trolls, but wait. Not even good trolls to begin with. Trolling your own server, deleting posts that point out your mistakes? Very mature.
Seems like most servers these days can't face the 'truth', just Essence all over again.
Have fun with your lives, carebears.
How am I pretty funny o-o? I was actually finding proof about the relation between the two... which was what I thought you people wanted. None of you bothered to find anything to support your claims ;D XD lol. I find your post funny D<. Nobody bothered to find physical proof until my post.
It's not like I really care if they're the same person--just wanted to see what people say about what I found out. I don't really bother with either server lol.
As for your other points, I don't have much to say XD. I was unsure of that banning statement as well lol. Maybe the Admin can reply here about them (which would be good to see). Need some things to be cleared up just for the sake of knowing.
Meow pretty much stated it all about PumpkinRO. It's a false advertisement really to anyone who sees "WoE-oriented" because it clearly isn't if you look at their features and how everything is set up.
Trolling is part of the internet, just saying. But to mix up stating facts about the server/people and consider it trolling, that's just ridiculous. To try and hide those facts by deleting posts and banning the one's who posted it just shows you how easily offended PumpkinRO gets. They're pretty much scared of being wrong and can't handle criticism.
QuoteAnd another thing is that, I think you're pretty confused about your own server features, just like how 'sexually confused' you are about your own identity. A WoE server does not mean implementing WoE next week; or whatsoever. Trying to add WoE 3.0 into your own server won't make things look like a WoE server, veeeRO was already kawaii enough, there you are trying to add "WoE" into your other server, just to make it seem WoE oriented? luuulzzz.
If you can't make good what your server features says, remove it.
Quote from meow, spoke the truth.
So, Who should go in the HoS? ArtificialRO or PumpkinRO
Lol, this got complicated xD. Well, they're both in the wrong I guess. I don't know who to put though--one did the hacking while the other mix things up (manipulating info) to create greater confusion. Either way, I hope things will turn out well in the end.
Quote from: MeowyMeow on Oct 29, 2010, 07:43 AM
You're pretty funny.
Your post made my day; they're both the same people obviously, they can be schizophrenic all they want, but in the end we still know that its a side server, that's still trash, both same teams, who cares? Different alias, they can be incognito too. It's karma. Did that to Jello, it's just happening to you again, and again. Terrible.
>mfw you call a successful server a trash server.
Implying that a server with over 200 has somehow magically failed itself.
Game has ALWAYS been about numbers. Who remembers EuphRO? The original one. Yeah, a lot of people. And people who played it seriously know how f*** awful it was, yet simultaneously, how awesome it was because the WoE's were epic and the community was massive. That makes the game. If you have a large community, it's not "trash". It's a successful and good server, automatically. Sorry if you missed the memo, bro. That's just how it works, and it's how it's been working.
I don't like EssenceRO anymore either. At first it was pretty good, but now it's as bad as everyone says it is. Yet it's over 1000 online (or did it finally drop below that? Regardless...) so it must have something going for it.
Case-in-point, a large server is not a trash server and nowadays it's safe to proclaim anything above 200 avg as large, given the dying community of the game and how stretched out across so many servers it is.
ITT: butt-hurt retards trying to defend an upset kid and failing.
Just because you pulled the wrong strings and have some kind of vendetta against a server and/or it's owners doesn't magically justify what's going on here. But this is pretty much what I've been talking about. RMS is all about the 4chan-wannabe drama s*** now, which is why people will f*** love my post for the 4chan references I've made in it.
Eat it up. Uguu~
I feel as though this topic will be locked soon. It's not really going any further...
I doubt either server would be listed in HoS as well. I guess the thread should be locked (Artificial isn't replying anymore).
Abversen, you've got it all wrong. There are plenty of servers out there that have a good population but are still trash servers, EssenceRO is a perfect example like you pointed out, it's just for some reason people want to play there for their own reason or because people don't know the real deal with the server, like PumpkinRO. You can't deny that because EssenceRO still has a good population.
PumpkinRO is trash because it's stating false facts about the features.
PumpkinRO is trash because the staff is immature and easily gets offended when proven wrong.
PumpkinRO is trash because they hide stuff from it's server, like the fact the staff banned a bunch of people for no reason.
PumpkinRO is trash because it has the same owner as veeRO and that server was trash.
Quote from: EmJay on Oct 30, 2010, 01:27 AM
Abversen, you've got it all wrong. There are plenty of servers out there that have a good population but are still trash servers, EssenceRO is a perfect example like you pointed out, it's just for some reason people want to play there for their own reason or because people don't know the real deal with the server, like PumpkinRO. You can't deny that because EssenceRO still has a good population.
PumpkinRO is trash because it's stating false facts about the features.
PumpkinRO is trash because the staff is immature and easily gets offended when proven wrong.
PumpkinRO is trash because they hide stuff from it's server, like the fact the staff banned a bunch of people for no reason.
PumpkinRO is trash because it has the same owner as veeRO and that server was trash.
To remind some of y'all, This is about Artificial stealing a website. So, If I'm correct, This thread has turned from ArtificialRO stealing a website to PumpkinRO being a complete scam fronted by Vee. From what It looks like, we've discovered
two servers that have some sort of fault/wrong-doing within them... someone needs to 'compare and contrast' these servers on a Venn diagram or something to see if this whole event is more than coincidence
Quote from: Scribbles on Oct 30, 2010, 07:57 AM
Quote from: EmJay on Oct 30, 2010, 01:27 AM
Abversen, you've got it all wrong. There are plenty of servers out there that have a good population but are still trash servers, EssenceRO is a perfect example like you pointed out, it's just for some reason people want to play there for their own reason or because people don't know the real deal with the server, like PumpkinRO. You can't deny that because EssenceRO still has a good population.
PumpkinRO is trash because it's stating false facts about the features.
PumpkinRO is trash because the staff is immature and easily gets offended when proven wrong.
PumpkinRO is trash because they hide stuff from it's server, like the fact the staff banned a bunch of people for no reason.
PumpkinRO is trash because it has the same owner as veeRO and that server was trash.
To remind some of y'all, This is about Artificial stealing a website. So, If I'm correct, This thread has turned from ArtificialRO stealing a website to PumpkinRO being a complete scam fronted by Vee. From what It looks like, we've discovered two servers that have some sort of fault/wrong-doing within them... someone needs to 'compare and contrast' these servers on a Venn diagram or something to see if this whole event is more than coincidence
Better thing, both should enter HoS.
I've got a feeling that there's more than just Website theft going on here. If I paid for a website, and someone else stole it, not only would I get pissed, I would also get the person who made the website involved. The Attitude put towards the post was very nonchalant. Perhaps it was 'given' to Artificial and then Pumpkin denied it. I dunno. Is what I'm saying founded?
Lol...I really hate to say this but Aritifical had the right idea. This is pointless. I'm following his lead this time and bowing out. Ciao
As a side note and my last edit:
I'm bowing out because its turned from the topic at hand to pointless trolling. We stopped getting DDOS'd so as far as I'm concerned -1 HOS them anymore because I'm not effected. I don't trust them, but then again I don't have to if they aren't screwing with me.
Yeah... +1 to HoS for both. There's obviously something going on here. Due to the lack of participation from any side, we must have hit the nail on the head.
Quote from: Scribbles on Oct 30, 2010, 03:21 PM
Yeah... +1 to HoS for both. There's obviously something going on here. Due to the lack of participation from any side, we must have hit the nail on the head.
says it all.
Quote from: Malice In Wonderland on Oct 30, 2010, 02:51 PM
Lol...I really hate to say this but Aritifical had the right idea. This is pointless. I'm following his lead this time and bowing out. Ciao
As a side note and my last edit:
I'm bowing out because its turned from the topic at hand to pointless trolling. We stopped getting DDOS'd so as far as I'm concerned -1 HOS them anymore because I'm not effected. I don't trust them, but then again I don't have to if they aren't screwing with me.
Nice joke after losing. Very good.
+1 to HoS-ing them.
[sarcasm]
Very nice try on getting attention to yourselves!
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Quote from: adhelle on Oct 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
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Very nice try on getting attention to yourselves!
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Attention? More like proving how stupid the team is, as well how terrible they are at trolling their own server features.
Quote from: MeowyMeow on Oct 31, 2010, 11:46 AM
Quote from: adhelle on Oct 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
[sarcasm]
Very nice try on getting attention to yourselves!
[/sarcasm]
Attention? More like proving how stupid the team is, as well how terrible they are at trolling their own server features.
Self Troll is successful
Quote from: Scribbles on Oct 31, 2010, 12:54 PM
Quote from: MeowyMeow on Oct 31, 2010, 11:46 AM
Quote from: adhelle on Oct 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
[sarcasm]
Very nice try on getting attention to yourselves!
[/sarcasm]
Attention? More like proving how stupid the team is, as well how terrible they are at trolling their own server features.
Self Troll is successful
So, are we gonna HoS both of them?
/rice
I'm back
@Meow: Thats a good idea.
Keep bleeding.
Posted on: Nov 02, 2010, 02:36 pm
http://www.pumpkin-ro.com/board/index.php?/topic/999-return-of-host-issues/
Quote> Hello,
>
> You just came under a large attack of over 2gbit/s and 60,000 packets per second.
>
> The IP attacked was ************** and this attack exceeds your protection.
>
> We have temporarily null routed this traffic and will check again periodically.
>
> Regards,
Null route means they shut the server down for an undetermined amount of time. Please bear with us as we go cuss at them for not doing their jobs.
We're extremely sorry about this and we're working to return to server to online status. The sad fact of the matter is DDOS'ing is extremely simple for gravity's lack luster system, we have to bare with it and attempt to keep upgrading out defenses.
And believe me....however upset you are, just imagine how Nipah and myself feel.
WILL BE UPDATED
This drama will never end :D
-- Restart my modem already [ Change ip success ]
This topic still hasn't been closed yet? I thought that the web layout owner already stated his facts?
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This drama will never end :D
-- Restart my modem already [ Change ip success ]
It will never end because there are malicious people out there that won't let it end, and continue to DDoS us. Seriously, we don't care about someone stealing our layout as much as we care about our players; just let us play our server in peace.
^
Too bad.
(http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp101/leokimah/haha.gif)
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I think I read somebody in RMS forums saying that as well, or I might be wrong and it actually said adding both servers to RMS's HoS (Hall of Shame)
Why not? This was from pRO forums. You guys deserve what you guys have done to Jello, nothing wrong imo? Lol.
If you people think that it's retarded to be in HoS, why be afraid if you guys claim that you guys have done 'nothing' wrong? ???
This is the screwy dumbass RMS logic I've been talking about.
Yeah, that DDoSing is justified because people feel that PumpkinRO is this, this, and this. Let me break it down for you;
QuotePumpkinRO is trash because it's stating false facts about the features.
Implying that they can't grow into the features they've listed. Many servers pull the stunt of listing features they don't even have yet. A trash server is one that never even gets around to adding those features. You're pulling this card on a server that's
less than one month old.
Let's take a game like Minecraft as a good example here. Their single player is up-to-date and doing well, however their online multiplayer is so behind on updates it's ridiculous. How is this relevant? In order to go online you have to pay for the game. No where does it say that multiplayer is behind, so people are lead to believe that what's in the single player is also in the multiplayer, which is very, very wrong (at the time of this posting). Does that mean Minecraft is a trash game? I'd like to point you to the 500,000+ people who bought the game before you start babbling off about s*** you know absolutely nothing about
again.
The developer of this game promises the multiplayer will be up-to-date with the single player soon enough. Players are, for the most part, content. However, this magically doesn't work for Ragnarok Online Private Server's or any other game. Cool story, bro.
QuotePumpkinRO is trash because the staff is immature and easily gets offended when proven wrong.
Are you being serious here? You're one of the main people acting immature on this topic, so I'm supposed to take your word for it that they're immature and don't like to be proven wrong, given the source? Really? Really? Hate to be proven wrong? They lied and said the kid legitimately got the website layout, which was about 3-4 pages worth of embarassment. He continued, so they dropped the charade. Yeah, they sure hate to be proven wrong!
QuotePumpkinRO is trash because they hide stuff from it's server, like the fact the staff banned a bunch of people for no reason.
I love s*** like this. What happened? One of your friends got banned or something? Where is your proof? There's always s*** slander like this on every server. Welcome to Ragnarok Online, even if this was true, it seems like it's going on in every decent server nowadays anyway. Sorry you missed the memo.
QuotePumpkinRO is trash because it has the same owner as veeRO and that server was trash.
Hahahahahahaha. Do I even need to say anything here?
OH MAN I HATED VEERO. ARRRRRRGH. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE PLAYED IT IT WAS SUCH A s*** SERVER FFFFFFF, I'M GOING TO TRY AND VOICE MY OPINION AS IF IT'S FACT.
Become a politician.
So, after I've shot down all of your ridiculous "points", this justifies getting DDoS'd? Given the situation, it doesn't. If this person was "banned unjustly" like you tried to play, then sure I could see it I guess. But we all know why he's DDoS'ing, because we embarassed him.
However, instead of doing the right thing, RMS chooses to.... well,
Quote from: Abversen on Oct 28, 2010, 08:38 AM
I have to say, the best part isn't Artificial being a faggot, it's RMS being tralalalala we aren't gonna do s*** because we'd rather have some drama to help keep otherwise boring and dead boards alive than retain any dignity and put a foot down in regards to the situation.
Your forums are about RO servers. Rant and Rave s*** doesn't happen often so when it does, you have to hold onto it pretty tightly I guess.
This is RMS. If it's enough to make outside parties amused by what's going on, then it's enough for RMS to turn the other cheek and show it's true colors. I guess what I've been hearing about RMS is pretty true, then. Sharp decline and been going on for a while.
You're not 4chan, bro. Get over it and start being what you advertise to be. A Ragnarok Online community with rules, and as far as I know stealing someones website is enough to put them in the Hall of Shame and blacklist them.
I believe I already covered that, didn't I?
VEEEEE
(http://hades-ro.net/veee.bmp)
same owner yeah, same person too ?
2 server 1 host ?
Clever boy, Artificial. Because that relation hasn't been shown in this thread a hundred times already.
Also,
mfw people see fake logs about JelloRO and immediately treat it as absolute truth and don't even question it when:
1.) Faking logs is easy to do. "Oh but it'd take too long, be realistic" = This kid is persisting with DDoSing for a week or more because he was embarassed by PumpkinRO on the RMS forums. I think he's lonely enough to dedicate that amount of time.
2.) Consider the source.
ITT: People who don't think for themselves.
Ok.
Quote from: MeowyMeow on Nov 03, 2010, 01:46 AM
Why not? This was from pRO forums. You guys deserve what you guys have done to Jello, nothing wrong imo? Lol.
If you people think that it's retarded to be in HoS, why be afraid if you guys claim that you guys have done 'nothing' wrong? ???
We didn't do s*** to JelloRO. You're making Artificial, whos PUBLICLY announced he's DDOSing other servers, a hero!? I wouldn't have wished that on Kristin and before I joined with the PRO project I was going to help her run that server. I ended up turning to PRO because Veee gave me my break as a GM and he told me I'd have the "%" cut from PRO. I'm also the server owner, just because he hosts the forums doesn't make it his server. 90% of the ideas, creations, and thoughts behind that were things I needed. You know why I wanted to run PRO, because I needed a creative outlet.
You want to know why I stepped out of this forum argument, because it's filled with NOTHING but trolls who pin and toss the blame oh whoever didn't suck up to them. Like you Kitty, you're just trolling because we BANNED you.
EmJay? A guy with 3 posts and he's taken as a credible source?!
I may have few posts but I'm the SERVER OWNER. RMS can easily check that and confirm it.
In the end this is a failure of a topic because TROLLS support TROLLS. You step behind a DDOS'r who's attacking other server's like he's the F***ing Messiah and are so damn quick to shove your words down PRO's throat that you're tripping over each other to snap at us. You're cheering a guy on who's DDOSing, antagonizing, and further abusing EVERYTHING he can. And your response?
LOL ITS JUST VRO.
ITS NOT VRO! EVEN, for the sake of argument, if it was, it doesn't change a DAMN thing. So what if it's a second server?! TONS of server owners run multiple servers. Get your facts straight and STOP saying this is Vee's server. This is MY server and I'll defend it till the end. We have a FANTASTIC community, and my only regret right now isn't you worthless trolls who are chipping in hoping for more drama to satisfy your pathetic lives, MY ONLY REGRET IS I CAN' PROTECT MY PLAYERS.
Oh and ya, let's believe FILTHYRO, who were already called out for MULTIPLE things. Way to use that brain RMS, just....just bravo.
No you can protect your players by telling the truth /ho
Quote from: Artificial on Nov 03, 2010, 02:30 AM
No you can protect your players by telling the truth /ho
Enlighten me then, if you think you know so much.
I just want to talk Nipah and thats all.
Its easy to end it..
- bye.
So yC.
HoS this. Nothing said more.
Close or delete topic. Solved Privately
Close or delete topic. Solved Privately
Close, tyvm.
Never mind, things are cleared up for now it seems. If this shenanigans continues however, I'm posting my 2 cents.