The effect of Tree of Savior into the servers you're playing right now.

Xyne · Mar 29, 2016, 07:18 PM

So Tree of Savior has released today. And with its release, we've felt a huge difference regarding the player base.
Do you think that Tree of Savior will cause the Ragnarok private server scene more death than ever?

Yozakura · Mar 29, 2016, 08:03 PM

Temporarily, perhaps. Plenty of RO players who tested ToS during its beta phase were extremely disappointed because it was hyped as the "real RO2," which it really isn't. That tag is ToS' curse, and I wouldn't be surprised if that kills it in the end. It's a decent game on its own, but it's nothing like RO. The players who want to play RO will just jump back eventually.

Playtester · Mar 30, 2016, 02:08 AM

The effect I noticed is that I have to read about how crap ToS is all the time now, which starts getting annoying.

Unfortunately ToS isn't ready to be a good RO replacement, even though the design is good, it's not stable enough, doesn't have enough freedom, etc.
Maybe in a few years but I doubt it'll survive that long.

People will come back to RO like they always do, you just need a change sometimes.

Nekoruchii · Mar 30, 2016, 05:15 AM

People just come and go. I'm pretty sure everyone's hyped up right now and after a while of playing, they're going to look for another game or return to RO.

Zinuru · Mar 30, 2016, 05:56 PM

Ragnarok Online has always been a classic. An old-school MMORPG that people still seem to find their way back to its given nostalgic feelings, mechanics wise, the two games cannot be compared.

I had a taste of ToS' closed beta, and I have to say I wasn't very impressed with the game's overall concept, although I did enjoy listening to BGMs and getting a feel of the design aspect.

With the above being said, I highly doubt Tree of Savior will ever end up replacing Ragnarok Online. If RO has truly died or is going to, like a lot of people are claiming, you wouldn't see servers still flourishing with thousands of players.

Here is to many more years of RO memories!

Zero. · Mar 31, 2016, 01:26 AM

If only they decided to make a legit 3D version of the classic RO and slowly progress with the usual episodes and avoiding all the mistakes and imbalances some of the content brought about. But I don't think gravity would ever bother even after they failed twice at remaking RO in 3D. That's the only way I see RO dying or being replaced to be perfectly honest.

Playtester · Mar 31, 2016, 04:58 AM

Yeah, there are still some things only RO has. Most notably for me the random spawn location aspect that forces you to explore the whole map rather than just camping spawn points and the completely unlinear quest progression where you really have to around town, talk to all NPCs always slowly learn a glimpse of the bigger story that's completely only happening in the background and then you are pretty much completely free to decide who to help. Also the fact that there are hundreds of maps you can potentially visit on the same level.

Tree of Savior doesn't really seem to offer this from what I've heard. It's simply a linear quest progression where you spend more time talking to NPCs than exploring the world yourself. And you just go from map to map rather than having a large world to explore. This and the steam requirements keeps my interest in the game low.

Minabe · Apr 02, 2016, 07:10 AM

Doing Tripper's job.

Yuzo · Apr 02, 2016, 07:47 AM

I'll put my money on most of the ro people playing ToS being people who have not played ro for a few years.

Playtester · Apr 02, 2016, 08:41 AM

Quote from: Yuzo on Apr 02, 2016, 07:47 AMI'll put my money on most of the ro people playing ToS being people who have not played ro for a few years.

Not quite, you can actually notice a 30% decrease of population over all the active RO servers. And it's still paid beta!

The question is only how long will they stick with ToS and how many will return to RO after a few weeks.

Cawliflower · Apr 03, 2016, 04:20 AM

It truly is time to sunset this game though.

Yuzo · Apr 03, 2016, 05:25 AM

Quote from: Cawliflower on Apr 03, 2016, 04:20 AM
It truly is time to sunset this game though.

But will the lessening of players reduce the amount of servers being created?

Minabe · Apr 03, 2016, 07:34 PM

Doing Tripper's job.

Kris · Apr 04, 2016, 08:17 AM

Best believe the 2k16 return ain't never stopping

Yumeka · Apr 04, 2016, 09:41 PM

ToS is a cute game but I couldn't really get into it, and fell back to playing RO lol

The mechanics are different but honestly I think that having it labelled by 'from the creator of RO' wasn't a good thing. When I played a lot of people kept comparing it to RO, which is understandable but they're different games. I think ToS would have done well if it was maybe 5-10 years ago and continued development but I think it's a little late for this style of game unless they really get good game mechanics. So far its interesting but pales in comparison to other games I think.