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Title: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Mar 20, 2011, 01:24 PM
WARNING: THIS IS LONG.
Names and other info edited out for protection of the innocent people involved. I can supply the originals. Just PM me.


I don't know where to start or even if this topic should be here to be honest. It's a bit of a mix, really. Well, I'll expose my case and let the admins decide if it stays here, goes to the reviews or ends up in the trash bin.

I have been checking this server for a while now, to see how it would go.

So, let's start with how this server was, I suppose.

Mid rate server without 3rd Classes, fairly balanced (a few donations were/are a bit OP), no wings (good thing too. Wings are horrid!).
Fairly updated on what concerns kRO RE.
Economy was fair enough (there are always the usual overpricers...).
A mall with the basic equipments that can be found on vendors, plus a smith/alche vendor and an arrow dealer (nasty prices on some arrows though... which is good).
Donations available in game through the voting points system.
Decent community (with its dose of idiots, of course).

Right at the beginning of checking out the server, I noticed something interesting on the item mall... Dragon Vests and Dragon Manteaus for sale and I made a couple posts here about it.

Now, Dragon Vests are an in-game drop from Dracos (Nydhoggur's Dungeon) and the Dragon Manteau is obtainable from a 1 time quest (from what I've seen, the manteau usually is made a rarer drop from Dracos on eAthena).

Concerns about this were raised and to my surprise, one of the admins (xLy) comes "screaming" that both items are not from in-game (and being quite adamant about it) and that he checked on RMS.
Well... as much as I love RMS, I'm sorry to say that the RMS DB is out of date or wrong in a lot of things. So, the links that state the proper "place" of these items in-game, the links were posted on the thread, thus infuriating xLy.
Soon after that, BonVoyage stated that both items would be removed from the donation shop as soon as he implemented Niddhogur's Dungeon.

Oh, the thread was deleted by the way... like other threads... but more on that soon. However... hehe... here are the screen shots! (with comments) ;D

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO2.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO3.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO4.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO5.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO6.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/vRO7.jpg)

So, first negative point: "xLy, The Clueless".

How this person made it to admin without having any minimal knowledge of drops in game, is beyond me. Shows the quality of admins nowadays on both knowledge and attitude. xLy's attitude towards players is: "This is my playground, what you say doesn't count. Bow to me!" End of. (Yes, I know... very common... power trips and all...)
Also, he loves to make script reloads without warning anyone or just removing NPC's suddenly. This guy simply has no respect for the players.

Some time later, due to real life, BonVoyage announced that he would resign as Admin and xLy would take over. First thing that xLy does is announce that the server is going to undergo major changes. Between complaints about xLy and his lovely hunger of twisting the server into what he wants (regardless of player wishes... because you know... you don't need players...), Bon decided to stay as Admin due to all the complaints about xLy and things went on as usual.

Oh and in case you wonder... yup, this thread also disappeared. (Damn, a lot of threads/posts disappear on this server's forum...  ::))

Second Negative point of the server: Communication between GM/Admins and the players.

There is simply no communication. No warnings about script reloads (Except Bon. He did warn.) so you just suddenly freeze for half a minute and then either find yourself dead or, for example, the MVP you had almost killed is reset.
Also, the server is pulled down for maintenance without any warning. It just goes down, no explanation, no warning, nothing. One of the best examples was when xLy took over for a day or 2 (that Bon resignation I mentioned) and simply closed the server without saying anything.
Announcements? Warnings? Respect for Players? "What for? We don't need players, har har!"

Onwards...

Recently (and again, suddenly, no warning, no asking the players, nothing... just got shoved down the players' throats.), 3rd classes were introduced to the server. Now, I've seen my share of servers with 3rd classes but this is beyond horrid. I don't think I've ever seen such a horrid implementation. Looks like they just "copy/pasted" the 3CeAM into the server without making any adjustments.
So now, we have 3rd Classes while using old mechanics but these guys didn't bother to adjust anything, no equipments, NOTHING. Trans classes are completely butchered because of this, and the 3rd Classes are so OP that it would make the devil cry in horror.

And what does our "friend" xLy do in order to fix this? He dishes out custom cards instead of fixing the balance and the bugs that arised from this "genius" move. Very "Pro" as they say.  ::)

So, this brings us to the third negative point of this server: Shoddy implementations of new content by people with no clue about renewal.

Now, earlier, I mentioned something about deleted posts and threads. That's the 4th negative point of this server: Tyranny.

Any post that isn't about singing praises to the server, suddenly disappears. Any post that may be about problems in the server suddenly disappears. I'll place my suspicions on xLy because his behavior pretty much screams it.

Here's an example of the reaction to a post, which pretty much confirms it. Unfortunately, these are the only screen shots I have because the thread that was made disappeared really fast (When I tried to return to it to screen shot, it was gone) :

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/deletingposts.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/proofofdeletion2.jpg)

To finish this off, I love the "Zero Tolerance Rules - but you get second chances" policy, plus all the bias going about (comments on the images):

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/zerotolerance.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/zerotolerance1.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/zerotolerance2.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/ZeroTolerance3.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/ZeroTolerance4.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/bias.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/doingnothing.jpg)

Second chances for botters, hackers, etc. I really love what's going on in this server. I would provide screen shots of marvelous moments of GM's "helping players" but alas, I have that problem with distorted screen shots due to the high resolution I play on. They wouldn't show much and would show even less if I logged out and back in with a different resolution. (trying to fix this because lower resolutions make my eyes bleed from all the pixels...)

Fifth negative point: Rules are for show.

To sum this up:

- A server with great potential being killed by the inept admins (news?)
- GM's that "Help players" (I wish I had screenies) and are biased
- Admins don't care about the players (news?)
- Completely unbalanced after the effed up attempt to implement 3rd classes.
- Customized cards. (Can't even comment on this...)

This server could have been great... now, all I see is a deep grave for it...
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: boltoy on Mar 20, 2011, 04:28 PM
Yeah. I tried playing that server myself, and it was lame. 1 thing made me quit right away. players using the "Warp portal* skill to go inside dungeons. I tried it myself, and they didn't make it enable to do so. only way they could have done it is by a GM.

@ilphithra PM me if you want to know something really funny about the server. I don't want to say it here. as i want them to find out them selfs. if they are reading this, they might start checking everything now. :P
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Mar 25, 2011, 01:01 AM
Latest fun moments of Voyage-RO:
False Reviews (one of them I already reported)
People are posting their complaints on RMS since, you know, on vRO, they get deleted. So... since the Admins/GM's can't delete the bad reviews on RMS, they resort to telling people to remove them:  ::)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/thelols.jpg)

Is this where I mention that the hair coloring has been broken forever and a day and no one gives a rat's donkey about it? I think I forgot to mention all the bugs on the server... my bad...
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/lols.jpg)

I think I mentioned the corruption on my OP? Yes, I think I did...
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/lololol.jpg)
It's going to affect the server badly! WAAA!!! Please remove since we can't just delete it like we do on our forums!!Q_Q x1000  ::)

<insert mocking serious voice>
QuoteGM team don't agree with the comment please remove it thank you, it's going to affect the server really bad
I loled... I loled so hard that I choked on my cig smoke... and then I just HAD to /facepalm. GM team don't agree = remove. Do I need say more on why the forum is censored to hell?

Admins/GM's of Voyage RO:

None of the reviews posted on these screen shots are false in terms of information at least:
- GM's that are popping like mushrooms, it's almost impossible to keep track of how many there are.
- There are admins popping out of nowhere.
- Complaints are removed and ignored.
- Bugs aren't fixed.
- Effed up implementations of content no one wanted.
- No communication about what happening or is going to happen.
- Corruption

Just to mention a few that are true. So, I call BS on you, Admins/GM's.

Please stop being sad, sad creatures. These complaints have reasons, reasons that you are aware of and ignore on purpose.
Stop being children and accept bad reviews because they will keep coming be it with or without reason (the usual banned people making a fuss).
If people can't complain on your forums, they will go and make them where it hurts the most... be aware of that.


Posted on: 22-03-2011, 00:15:02
EDIT!! Seems the s*** is hitting the fan at vRO. Screen shots available and nicely saved in case the admins decide to make the thread disappear.  ;D

http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=491.0
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Kensei on Mar 25, 2011, 04:13 AM
boltoy mind sharing? I need moar dramas and no need to worry, it's not like everyone who play RO Private Server bothers coming here, maybe only 0.01% people are here.

so why keeping it secret <3

P.S : was thinking of playing there some times ago, but thanks for the review.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Mar 25, 2011, 03:11 PM
Quote from: Kensei on Mar 25, 2011, 04:13 AM
boltoy mind sharing? I need moar dramas and no need to worry, it's not like everyone who play RO Private Server bothers coming here, maybe only 0.01% people are here.

so why keeping it secret <3

P.S : was thinking of playing there some times ago, but thanks for the review.

What he mentions is within one of the posts on the thread that I updated the post with last night. And since the cat is out of the bag, no point in hiding anyway. Player accounts had a set level of 20 with access to #commands. The reasons? See for yourself on that thread  ;D
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Yukiiko on Mar 26, 2011, 09:23 AM
Lol
Restricting dungeon access and selling the drops in an itemmall?
Wat.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Kensei on Mar 26, 2011, 01:25 PM
Bet the truth has been deleted. I wish I could revive or see dead topic  :-\
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: boltoy on Mar 26, 2011, 02:57 PM
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x292/rador_dude/LolxD.png)

It's a good thing i took a screenshot of this. now that the level 20 account thing has been mentioned here, they would try to erase the proof asap.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Mar 27, 2011, 05:58 PM
Quote from: Kensei on Mar 26, 2011, 01:25 PM
Bet the truth has been deleted. I wish I could revive or see dead topic  :-\

Yes, it would be nice. I tried to get google cache but unfortunately, I had no luck  :(

In the meantime, you can follow this thread: http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=491.0
You'll notice that a lot of what I posted here is being discussed there. Plus, as a bonus, grab the popcorn and enjoy the drama.  ;D
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Ganondorf on Mar 27, 2011, 08:12 PM
Nice compilation you've got here.  Sorry to see another server go through something like this.

I will however, grab my popcorn.  =)
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Lucian on Mar 28, 2011, 05:05 PM
Quote from: Ganondorf on Mar 27, 2011, 08:12 PM
Nice compilation you've got here.  Sorry to see another server go through something like this.

I will however, grab my popcorn.  =)
Thank you for your popcorn posts.  :D

The topic has been locked by a staff member, and we are working on a fix right now.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Mar 29, 2011, 12:40 AM
http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=496.0

Well, good... now let's see what comes out of this on the next chapter <insert cliffhanger>  :D

*grabs some more popcorn*
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Lucian on Mar 29, 2011, 02:18 PM
http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=497.msg2817#new (http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=497.msg2817#new)

You might need some more.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Ganondorf on Mar 29, 2011, 07:47 PM
Hmm, I didn't have enough butter on mine last time.  Anyone got any to spare?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: boltoy on Mar 30, 2011, 01:42 AM
More popcorn for everyone! :3 well, let's see how it goes after the wipe. :3
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 07, 2011, 07:08 PM
I'm finding it funny that the server has been down for days to be wiped and this pops up in the reviews:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/messy.jpg)
Check out the date...
Honestly, if you ask me, they'll never learn...  ::)

Best of wishes and all that... though... let's be real... how many servers made a successful come back?  :-X

I think I'll just do what I was asked so many times already... set up a small local server for the peeps to play in (no, not another server for the RMS. It will be private and all of us have good jobs and families, we're past our late 20's and we don't need to suck up donations and put up with obnoxious players). We're all kind of fed up with looking at 10000 servers and all of them end up the same way.


At any rate, as far as I'm concerned, this thread can be locked.
Posted on: 02-04-2011, 05:25:21
BIG FAT EDIT:

Latest news on vRO: Emperium drop is disabled and you must donate to get it! YAY!!!

http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=507.msg3015#msg3015
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/alexisdorian/morevro40copy.jpg)

Lovely feedback... people are "Lovin'it"!
http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=507.0

Everything is immortalized in screen shots... just in case the threads disappear mysteriously. I wouldn't be surprised if I get banned from the forum or something. But then... it would only give me even more reason...
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Chirpe on Apr 07, 2011, 08:42 PM
Edited, because I couldn't even keep a straight face when writing my first comments.

:l I guess that popcorn has gone stale by now, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Chemical Crush on Apr 07, 2011, 09:24 PM
LOL

You have to donate for an emp, what a buncha retards on the server.   Just nerf the drop rate if anything, I mean its JUST an emp.  Its not some super god item that one shots everyone in the game. 

I love idiot admins <3
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: kchn1811 on Apr 07, 2011, 09:45 PM
Getting 1 piece of emp from the donation . That's just wtf.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 08, 2011, 12:34 AM
Quote from: Chirpe on Apr 07, 2011, 08:42 PM
Edited, because I couldn't even keep a straight face when writing my first comments.

:l I guess that popcorn has gone stale by now, hasn't it?

Don't worry, it's quite hard to keep a straight face when you see something as retarded as this "emp by donation" thing.
As for the popcorn... they're slowly turning into napalm  ;D

Quote from: Chemical Crush on Apr 07, 2011, 09:24 PM
LOL

You have to donate for an emp, what a buncha retards on the server.   Just nerf the drop rate if anything, I mean its JUST an emp.  Its not some super god item that one shots everyone in the game.  

I love idiot admins <3

Not just that. Try making golden bells now, or an other headgear that needs an emp... oh wait... emps by donation only... whoops... suddenly in-game equips are "donation only"....

Ah... greed... so lovely.... ::)
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: AquarRO on Apr 08, 2011, 02:31 AM
donation for emp lol i think that server is only made for cash
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Kensei on Apr 08, 2011, 06:24 AM
Why not donate for a castle? So rich noobs can get their e-peen bigger with $$
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Shadowfax on Apr 08, 2011, 08:16 AM
Did the admin "BonVoyage" delete all the posts from last night? I thought people were exaggerating, but this guy does appear to live in his own little world. How does he intend to run a server when he refuses to communicate?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 08:56 AM
He deleted everything that voices public opinions, including the polling area. c_C;
But surely, a "1st 99 transcendent player"-event for +7 low drop equipment shall fix everything...

Edit:
Emperiums now drop from "Custom mobs (wild homuns) (http://i55.tinypic.com/1xx8xz.jpg)".
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 08, 2011, 09:02 AM
Who wants the screen shots of the threads that I conveniently saved?  ;D

Also, google cache is fun! CLICK ME (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.voyage-ro.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D507.0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
If the page doesn't open and in case some of you don't know how to get google's cache, just do this:
cache:http://www.voyage-ro.com/forum/index.php?topic=507.0

You can run, but you can't hide, BonVoyage.

As for the drops... why didn't he put the drops where they belong instead of making them drop on wild homuns?

This guy deleted everything, made it so that no one can post on the forum, even deleted the chatbox. The forum is completely blocked to anyone posting there. That shows how much he wants feedback or cares about what people think.

I think this guy is a clear example of idiotic admin who doesn't communicate with anyone and just goes about doing his thing without a single care for the players.

So, let's see... the admin is:

- Retarded
- Greedy
- Has no clue about how to run a server
- Gags the players so they don't speak anything bad of the server
- Deletes threads to hide evidence of the crap going on
- Continues to use in-game items as donations even though he was told repeatedly not to.
- Changes drops so that people are forced to donate for things easily obtainable by killing normal monsters.

Is this enough to dump BonVoyage in the Hall of Shame?
Personally, I think it is, is anything, by the "Ghadaffi" style of taking care of things that this guy has.


Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 09:38 AM
QuoteThis guy deleted everything, made it so that no one can post on the forum, even deleted the chatbox. The forum is completely blocked to anyone posting there. That shows how much he wants feedback or cares about what people think.
That's not entirely accurate... We can still post in the rules, downloads and events sections, but I'm sure posts will be removed.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: CrispyKitten on Apr 08, 2011, 09:50 AM
Quote from: ilphithra on Apr 08, 2011, 09:02 AM
This guy deleted everything, made it so that no one can post on the forum, even deleted the chatbox. The forum is completely blocked to anyone posting there. That shows how much he wants feedback or cares about what people think.
I was stunned to find this when I logged on this morning.  Being a new player there, and not knowing fully about the past infractions the admins on that server had committed, I just thought "Oh, they messed up a bit like all the other servers these days do and re-opened."  And from the people on the forums who were talking, people like Snow and Chirpe and Days and Lucian, it really seemed like the place had learned from its mistakes and was turning a new leaf.

However, I didn't know that none of them had the ear of the server admin, which I find thoroughly absurd for anyone in charge of a server to allow.  We had posted tons of suggestions from beta testing, which made me think there were great improvements being made...but then this one guy (who turns out the be the Admin of the server) comes and posts what he thinks the server should be.  Of course, many players raged at his "features", but he was never on, and nobody could get ahold of him.  To make matters worse, when he did come on, he removed all comments against his features, including the shout box?  Can you talk about insecurity? 

I had thought I found a nice MR to play around on until summer came when I could get more serious, but after this fiasco, I don't think VoyageRO has used its second chance properly at all and is not worth the time of anyone who respects themself, sadly.

Sigh.  B> Newish Decent LR-MR lol :<
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 08, 2011, 01:37 PM
Quote from: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 09:38 AM
QuoteThis guy deleted everything, made it so that no one can post on the forum, even deleted the chatbox. The forum is completely blocked to anyone posting there. That shows how much he wants feedback or cares about what people think.
That's not entirely accurate... We can still post in the rules, downloads and events sections, but I'm sure posts will be removed.

Just noticed that, my bad. Usually in other forums, that section is blocked to posts from "Normal users", hence why I didn't even think of checking it.
But yeah... as soon as a post is made there, I'm 100% sure it will "disappear". Because you know... "dissidents" can't be allowed to speak. It screws up the dictator's image...  ::)
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 03:40 PM
The new annoucment (http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9358/annoucment.jpg), now deleting the posts make sense! /sarcasm
List of current forum sections (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9912/sections.jpg), next time we will simply post in the... well... hmm. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 08, 2011, 07:33 PM
Quote from: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 03:40 PM
The new annoucment (http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9358/annoucment.jpg), now deleting the posts make sense! /sarcasm
Look at the date xD It's from March 5. It has been there for a while already

Quote from: Chirpe on Apr 08, 2011, 03:40 PM
List of current forum sections (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9912/sections.jpg), next time we will simply post in the... well... hmm. Any suggestions?
Hmm... can post... hmm... here, on RMS... where it doesn't get deleted because "the Gm team doesn't approve" rofl.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Yukino on Apr 08, 2011, 09:02 PM
Wow, that's going overboard with the emperium and forums... Tsk at the main Administrator. Seriously, the server was going okay at the beginning, and now he ruined his server's chances of making it bigger.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Shadowfax on Apr 09, 2011, 03:26 PM
I noticed their main website says that today is the "reopening" of the server, but their forums don't seem to have anything posted to acknowledge that.

Anyone know the latest regarding this server?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Apr 09, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Shadowfax on Apr 09, 2011, 03:26 PM
I noticed their main website says that today is the "reopening" of the server, but their forums don't seem to have anything posted to acknowledge that.

Anyone know the latest regarding this server?

How about this whole thread? How about you actually read it?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Shadowfax on Apr 09, 2011, 04:54 PM
Quote from: ilphithra on Apr 09, 2011, 03:57 PM
How about this whole thread? How about actually you read it?

Next time, take a deep breath and think before you misinterpret a post. Thanks.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Tonarichan on Apr 09, 2011, 10:52 PM
@Shadowfax: Well, your question is rather pointless as what is being posted here IS the latest news about the server.

The funny thing about this server is, that before they decided to just ignore the player it actually looked as if they were caring about it. The hang to trying to make money with regular ingame items had was there from the beginning though.

Bon probably just got fed up with having to actually be the admin of the server (after he tried to dump the responsibility before) and decided to just be a dictator. Who needs an opinion anyway? I wonder if the next step will be ip-bans (if there are any ppl left) for the people that start a sentence with "I think" or that have anything that opposes his view in the sentence.

Does he really think people will play the server like this? The reopening sounds more like plan to make people believe he considered what they said.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Kensei on Apr 10, 2011, 12:40 PM
Good luck on regaining players' trusts.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ej3ct on May 14, 2011, 07:55 PM
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=voyage-ro.com
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: xwinter on May 17, 2011, 07:08 PM
Bumping this Topic.

[Not sure if I'm suppose to make another one.]

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/242346_114503401969194_100002286047975_130967_2854593_o.jpg)
(If you can't see it then: CLICK HERE (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/242346_114503401969194_100002286047975_130967_2854593_o.jpg).)
The image above shows a player's (IGN: Robin) PayPal Transaction.  
Mark Luke Tan a.k.a BonVoyage tried to make a "donation" using a user's personal account information.  The PayPal account was accessed from an IP address in the Philippines, the password and email information from VoyageRO's database matched the same as the Paypal information allowing BonVoyage to gain access and attempt to send $250 from Robin's account to himself.  
*Luckily the transaction was cancelled in time.

I just wanted to let everyone know who donated that you may be at risk of having money "Donated" or STOLEN from your account. Please take precaution and change your PayPal passwords.

In addition to that, I am asking if there are any RMS Moderators that can do anything about the VoyageRO Admin because now he has taken a whole new level from being a Corrupt Admin to just a real life thief and scammer.  He now stealing money, this is an extremely serious offense.

Lastly, I have knowledge that he plans on opening another server called Amityone from several people. Just a head's up.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Tom~ on May 19, 2011, 05:08 PM
@xwinter: RMS is not the RO police. Besides, what he did is a CRIME-- he attempted to steal money using Paypal. Robin should ask Paypal's support for help and take legal action against "Mark Luke Tan" before he actually succeeds in stealing someone's money.

Though, I think he's a perfect candidate for RateMyServer's Hall of Shame.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Dschill on May 20, 2011, 02:35 AM
Quote from: xwinter on May 17, 2011, 07:08 PM
...

I just wanted to let everyone know who donated that you may be at risk of having money "Donated" or STOLEN from your account. Please take precaution and change your PayPal passwords.

In addition to that, I am asking if there are any RMS Moderators that can do anything about the VoyageRO Admin because now he has taken a whole new level from being a Corrupt Admin to just a real life thief and scammer.  He now stealing money, this is an extremely serious offense.

Lastly, I have knowledge that he plans on opening another server called Amityone from several people. Just a head's up.

Oh hell this is sick o_O
I'm happy right now I never played there .___.
And please... Take help from PayPal. They
know what they do~
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Kyomi on May 20, 2011, 07:48 AM
Quote from: Tom~ on May 19, 2011, 05:08 PM
Though, I think he's a perfect candidate for RateMyServer's Hall of Shame.

I definitely second this, that's just low.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Xarale on May 20, 2011, 08:29 AM
Wow, this is the lowest of the low.  I really hope that Robin takes legal action against this lowlife, and that the players there find a better server, preferably one where the admin isn't a money thieving criminal.  BonVoyage has truly earned his spot in the GM Hall of Shame.

Moving this thread to HoS.

Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Remilia on May 20, 2011, 01:18 PM
Hello everyone.

Robin here.
Some people might know me as Lingerie the Gypsy.
Anyhow, I'm already in the process of trying to get legal action about this.
I think its really messed up that someone has to use there own database to try and commit Fraud.
Anyhows Bank was notified and Paypal already blocked the transactions.

I'll let you know if anything comes to light.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Xarale on May 20, 2011, 05:26 PM
Quote from: Remilia on May 20, 2011, 01:18 PM
Hello everyone.

Robin here.
Some people might know me as Lingerie the Gypsy.
Anyhow, I'm already in the process of trying to get legal action about this.
I think its really messed up that someone has to use there own database to try and commit Fraud.
Anyhows Bank was notified and Paypal already blocked the transactions.

I'll let you know if anything comes to light.
I agree, it really is sickening to see an RO admin stoop to this level.  I hope other players of that server are aware of this incident too.

Anyway great to hear, keep us updated if anything happens.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Lucian on May 22, 2011, 03:53 PM
Quote from: Remilia on May 20, 2011, 01:18 PM
Hello everyone.

Robin here.
Some people might know me as Lingerie the Gypsy.
Anyhow, I'm already in the process of trying to get legal action about this.
I think its really messed up that someone has to use there own database to try and commit Fraud.
Anyhows Bank was notified and Paypal already blocked the transactions.

I'll let you know if anything comes to light.
Good luck Robin.

Ahh, what a shame.. Hall of Shame candidate for sure, +3.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: LeaLea on May 23, 2011, 11:45 AM
That's just plain disgusting. And how did he expect not to get caught?
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: adhelle on May 23, 2011, 12:29 PM
Never, NEVER use the same password on a RO server that you use anywhere else. I just had a case of ragnaturn admin logging in and deleting chars from players that moved from that server to LRO and used the same pass. Honestly, it doesn't scare me that people would try to steal money using players passwords info as well. A valuable lesson everyone should learn in the easy or hard way:

1. Some servers do not encrypt passwords. They either don't know how to change a "no" to "yes" in the login server and CP conf, or are not worried that someone hacks in and is able to select player info and GM accounts or are officially trying to use your information. AVOID.
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: ilphithra on Jul 03, 2011, 09:09 PM
Wow... I'm gone 2 months due to real life issues and come back to see this... I never thought things would get so low...
When trying to go to the CP, Firefox blocks it and screams "hacker page" at me. I wonder what happens to peeps using IE or other browsers that don't block this...  :-X

Sorry for the necro  btw... :-\
Title: Re: Voyage RO - How to sink a promising server.
Post by: Ace on Jul 19, 2011, 03:55 AM
I know something fishy is going on in this guy =))