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BrokenIris

Where oh where should I begin? I used to be a GM on this server. I have seen a lot of things players don't see. Players don't even have any clue on what is happening. First off, lets talk about the dishonesty on this server. You get on and think there's a big population? You are so very wrong. Only reason it shows a big population is because the Admins have @away bots spread throughout the server. We were only allowed to HnS outside and not in the buildings, afraid the players would see their hidden bots inside the buildings. One player found a bot and reported it to me. I reported it to the Admin and he got mad and logged it off. Dishonesty? Why yes, I do think so. Second, the Admins are corrupted. They say they don't like corruption when they are corrupted themselves. I don't know how many times the Admin has given me full blown gear on my characters. Cards, gear, ect ect. Admins only give gear and such to their friends. Corrupted? I think so. Friendly GMs? No. The GMs are not friendly at all. Admin trashtalks her GM team. Fired me for a petty reason. The expolsion message was, and I quote "F*UCK YOU YOU F*UCKING WHORE" and she called me a lying whore. Nice GM Team? Had a report from a player saying a GM named PvP Keeper had muted her and jailed her forever. He unjailed her after I talked to him but threatened that player if she were to get a report from someone else about ANYTHING then he was going to jail her for ONE WEEK. Not fair punishment imo. I reported it to the Admin and she did nothing. There was a GM meeting soon after we had reported this GM and all that happened was GMs getting there donkey chewed out and nothing happened to this GM but a dismissal from one of the Admins.The player had been killed by someone and logged onto her main to killed him and he reported her saying she KoS'ed his mob. Someone I trust dearly has my WOE ACCOUNTS and when this GM meeting was happening, WoE was going on. Admin said I couldn't PvP during the meeting but I had let my friend use my woe account. The Admin warped off after the other Admin asked if I was WoEing. Soon after she return and started chewing my donkey out for WoEing. I told them to check the IP address before they want to chew me out for it. The GM Team is completely ignored. We have posted numorous ideas and all have gone unnoticed. The PvP is not balanced. You might have the best gear around but gets killed as soon as you come in but hax damage. You have the highest resist you could possibly get and good def and still get hax damage upon you. PvP is surely not balanced. Another GM was wrongly accused of such actions that he didn't not do. Admins had no proof he had did it but wrongly accused him anyway. There could be 5 GMs on and a player @request and have no response. I have tested this out myself. Being on GM and legit at the same time @requested what I "needed" help on and got no reply until I had spammed what I was needing help with. GMs punish players wrongly and over punish them. The community is 90% full of people who don't help anyway when they are asked. So the community is not what it seems either. Just an overall bad server. Don't see why it has number 1 position. I used to love this server but after being chewed out so much and being fired over stupid reason, I have lived to hate it. I started being on legit more to keep from being chewed out over pity reasons. I got chewed out once because I had asked my friend on my GM if he had an extra headgear I could use on my legit until I get one. I never seen the harm in it since I asked for it for my legit but yea, got my donkey chewed out on that one also. I wrote this just to let people know not to go to this corrupted god forsaken server.

MissCross

#1
On the @away bots... wow. I had no idea, but that's pretty lame. If you don't have the population, you don't have the population - don't try to fake it. The HnS thing is pretty stupid, too. If you're going to do that, then why not just keep all the @away bots in one unwarpable map? Problem solved, right? Instead of getting mad, be honest. I guess people get mad when they get caught doing something naughty.
I think just about anyone on that server who has been there for a while knows that the Admins give items to players (players they like, that is) and I've heard they gear their own legits. I've heard lots of rumors about Mario PvPing on a secret legit that has items that aren't available to other players. I saw a post once on the forums about a weird item and a GM got fired for mentioning it. I don't know the whole story about it, but that's a little fishy. She called you a wh*re? That's immature. If she's going to fire someone, fire them. Not like that person is going to see the expel history to be insulted by it anyway. Waste of time and a brilliant (sarcasm) display of immaturity.
I saw the thread on the forums where the player reported about the GM doing that to her. I think that's stupid and I'm wondering why that GM wasn't taken care of. If other GMs report that GM for doing something and have proof, what else is there but to take action against that GM? Get mad at the other GMs? Irrational.
The GMs and Admins on tsbRO are pretty lazy and when they do respond, they're short with you and often rude about it. The only ones who haven't been ugly to me are Co-Admin Lolzies, GM Jack, GM Meta, GM Requiem, and GM Twitch. Everyone else just ignores me.
On issues with the server... well... there's too many. Unbalanced PvP, too many customs (with broken descriptions), broken NPCs that haven't been fixed (in weeks to months). Yuck. Overall bad, disorganized, corrupted server.

SyntaxError

the above mentioned @away bot has been spotted recently in prontera. just saying. anyways.

started playing there like a year ago or more.. idk.
it used to be "alright" back then. saying that with a huuuuuuuuuge wink.
lately.. its just crap that cant be flushed through the toilet. seen 3 decent GM's online and thats about it. the way mario and candace treated people was just unreasonable,
i opened my mouth to state my opinion and there was my 30 minute mute without warning
with a ban upcoming if i didnt stfu. gotta <3 candace... *cough cough* community changed from decent people to straight off assh0les troll's and jerks. the pvp made me giggle alot due to the failure of people spamming an AoE skill and thats it. WTB> real skill. instead of spamming F4 like a monkey and then swearing because they get killed by someone else that does the same. must say that it gives a few laughs though. but if a server has to run on that? no TY.

tl;dr

if you look at the server how it is w/o admins gm's and community i'd say playable. add the staff and you'd /ragequit if they'd ever talk to you. leaving the community outside since they are bots most likely.


-Syn

Kyomi

#3
I recall one time, in their MSN group, I happened to be in it when there was a couple GM's talking about making stuff for their legits. A friend and I said something about it, and they kept arguing that it was okay, they saw nothing wrong in it, etc etc etc. Unfortunately this was ages ago, and the group's chat logs only go back a week or so. :|

I really wish I screenied stuff when I had the chance. I also wish I remembered the GM's that were involved. :<

Btw, this really belongs in Rant and Rave. Q_Q Thanks, Xarale. <333333


Xarale

Moving this to Rant & Rave, as this doesn't really class as a Server Review.

BrokenIris

I cause it as a server review. I am warning people that this server sucks so bad! It is also a report to RMS. It used to be a good server but it's full of trolls and donkey'. This server should NOT be the number 1 server....
Posted on: Dec 28, 2010, 08:57 am
Yeaaaaa not be double posting but I got online for a moment because I was looking for someone because he is like a best friend to me and I @requested that I needed help, no responds. I took it upon myself to PM every GM to see if someone was online but ignoring me. To no surprise, no GMs were on. This was also confirmed  by a friend of mine. Active GMs by butt =/
Posted on: Dec 28, 2010, 11:59 am
Some friends and I decided to go through RMS to find the other report about TSB and found this


Quote from: Gamble on Sep 09, 2010, 10:55 AM
Alright, I've seen "TsbRO Threads" long enough.
I'll tell you how my experience in TsbRO was.

First thing you need to know, I played the server for 4-5 months? Before i quit because i moved to another country and i got really busy.
I built my reputation there as "Gamble" the old players might still remember me for i became a GM after some time.

I thought the server had potential, I wasn't wrong. It had good things you can ask for a High Rate server.
Being the lazy person as i am, my first 3 weeks, i just sit in Prontera to get to know people, post some comments in forum to build that social ladder before i start playing.

Ended up, doing some signature request until it escalated to making forum banners, videos, and etc.. for the server. Mario was a really nice GM. So every time he would ask me to make banners, he would reward me with GM Cards. This made my life easier for i didn't had to  hunt that much anymore.

Before i became a GM, I noticed some people stand out inside the PvP room. They have pretty good resist and damage at the same time. Being a social climber of the server, did my own investigation and later found out that they were using cards that weren't released yet. As the old saying goes, If you can't beat them, join them.

I worked my way to becoming a GM and hocus pocus, found out that GMs had perks. We get to use edited GM cards that the other players didn't know. Like Itachi Card, Nortom Card, Mario was even nice enough to make me a card that benefited my main which was High Priest. I was owning PvP room like non other.

I didn't post this to bash on Tsbro. I loved Tsbro. I enjoyed my stay there. Lovely people, and Mario was cool. I think hes weakness though was hes too nice. People ask him items and if hes in a good mood he'll give you one.

But yea, to confirm most of the things discussed here, Yes, there was a time (not sure if it still goes on in the server) where Gms or Marios friends will use illegitimate cards.

Yes, Its better than before. I'm not sure if they fixed the gangster talk npcs DAT TOLKS LAYKE DIS! I still think Tsbro has potential.

I didn't quit because i hated the server, i stopped playing because i was too busy partying with my friends and studying.

Cheers,
Gamble/EX(GM)Mischief


My point right there that this is a corrupted server.

Soundbox

None of this is new tbh. When i was there a looooong time ago this was all going on, except the bot thing. My point is that the gm team and admins have never worked well together, and they have always allowed gms item stuff for their "legits" as long as you asked first unless you were a friend then they didnt really care if you asked or not.

@syntax: Mario and candace have never taken suggestions/criticism very well.

MissCross

Soundbox: That's not totally true either because GM Stalker got fired for taking cards and items for her legit, so I guess it's a double standard. Also, the @away bots are in GM hide in prt_in. You see them (they're all job level 1, btw) on the server control panel on the "Who is Online" tab, but when you look they aren't there. Before she got axed GM Luna Rain jumped to all of them and they're all just there in GM hide. That's some lame levels of dishonesty there.

Soundbox

#8
I was a gm on the server for some time so yes its all true lol. Everything i said was based on my time there and my personal experience with mario and candace along with the ever changing staff team.

BrokenIris

#9
So far we have found 6 bots in GM hide and on our way of finding more. Make that 7 now. Shame that it has went down to this level. I really did love this server until the Admins wanted to chew me out for stupid reasons instead of polietly pointing out my mistakes and asking me not to do them again. And Soundbox, this may be old news but I am once again bringing it up as this server doesn't deserve rank 1. They ask people to make account after account on RMS just to keep giving them "good" reviews. Is that how they ended up rank 1? I do believe so.
Posted on: Dec 28, 2010, 01:57 pm
Shows how rude GMs are to their so called "beloved" players.....


I forgot to mention how, during a FFA PVP Event, meaning free for all, there are rules like, no standing on the sides of the arena or you will be recalled out of the event. You can't heal during this event either. They actually removed heal for this event. It's FFA but you aren't allowed to do what you want or you get kicked out of the event.

Narcissist

#10
Quote from: BrokenIris on Dec 28, 2010, 03:09 PM
Where oh where should I begin? I used to be a GM on this server. I have seen a lot of things players don't see. Players don't even have any clue on what is happening. First off, lets talk about the dishonesty on this server. You get on and think there's a big population? You are so very wrong. Only reason it shows a big population is because the Admins have @away bots spread throughout the server. We were only allowed to HnS outside and not in the buildings, afraid the players would see their hidden bots inside the buildings. One player found a bot and reported it to me. I reported it to the Admin and he got mad and logged it off. Dishonesty? Why yes, I do think so. Second, the Admins are corrupted. They say they don't like corruption when they are corrupted themselves. I don't know how many times the Admin has given me full blown gear on my characters. Cards, gear, ect ect. Admins only give gear and such to their friends. Corrupted? I think so. Friendly GMs? No. The GMs are not friendly at all. Admin trashtalks her GM team. Fired me for a petty reason. The expolsion message was, and I quote "F*UCK YOU YOU F*UCKING WHORE" and she called me a lying whore. Nice GM Team? Had a report from a player saying a GM named PvP Keeper had muted her and jailed her forever. He unjailed her after I talked to him but threatened that player if she were to get a report from someone else about ANYTHING then he was going to jail her for ONE WEEK. Not fair punishment imo. I reported it to the Admin and she did nothing. There was a GM meeting soon after we had reported this GM and all that happened was GMs getting there donkey chewed out and nothing happened to this GM but a dismissal from one of the Admins.The player had been killed by someone and logged onto her main to killed him and he reported her saying she KoS'ed his mob. Someone I trust dearly has my WOE ACCOUNTS and when this GM meeting was happening, WoE was going on. Admin said I couldn't PvP during the meeting but I had let my friend use my woe account. The Admin warped off after the other Admin asked if I was WoEing. Soon after she return and started chewing my donkey out for WoEing. I told them to check the IP address before they want to chew me out for it. The GM Team is completely ignored. We have posted numorous ideas and all have gone unnoticed. The PvP is not balanced. You might have the best gear around but gets killed as soon as you come in but hax damage. You have the highest resist you could possibly get and good def and still get hax damage upon you. PvP is surely not balanced. Another GM was wrongly accused of such actions that he didn't not do. Admins had no proof he had did it but wrongly accused him anyway. There could be 5 GMs on and a player @request and have no response. I have tested this out myself. Being on GM and legit at the same time @requested what I "needed" help on and got no reply until I had spammed what I was needing help with. GMs punish players wrongly and over punish them. The community is 90% full of people who don't help anyway when they are asked. So the community is not what it seems either. Just an overall bad server. Don't see why it has number 1 position. I used to love this server but after being chewed out so much and being fired over stupid reason, I have lived to hate it. I started being on legit more to keep from being chewed out over pity reasons. I got chewed out once because I had asked my friend on my GM if he had an extra headgear I could use on my legit until I get one. I never seen the harm in it since I asked for it for my legit but yea, got my donkey chewed out on that one also. I wrote this just to let people know not to go to this corrupted god forsaken server.

First of all, I will say that i am the Co admin of this server. When i saw this post, I'm sorry but i laughed.

OK Luna, Miss drama queen, I really don't care people giving opinion that hurts, but at least they are honest. All i see in your post is a angered person trying to get back for being fired. Why were you fired? Its because you were never on your GM and always on your legit. You acted foolishly on a GM, like begging for items when on GM. But to be fair, ill comment about your post point by point.

You saying Admins putting @hide characters sounds a bit false, why? Well because you were a low level GM and were not be able to spot a lvl 100 GM with whogm, @whomap etc. So tell me how were you able to spot them? The reason we said to not do HnS inside, is because it makes it too hard.
Edit: Also Admins lvl dont show up on Control panel <3

You say admins are corrupted? That is also a lie, as i mentioned before, you, who was a gm, were BEGGING for items. If there was corruption the admins would have given you items.

Not a nice GM team you say? Haha, Funny, maybe it was because you over drama everything and tried to manipulate people each day. You say you answer @request, that you always go on GM and not legit, all those thing not true. You say that you were too busy to go on RO, yet we find you like 6 hours online strait, playing it. Also i tried to find that quote you mention earlier, but seemed not to find it anywhere (edit: If you were referring the the comment about expel history, about a corrupted GM who back stabbed everyone, then your quote is wrong and out of context). Again a lie, what a surprise. Yes Candace DID call you a lying whore before firing you, because the corruption you mentioned earlier WAS YOU, kinda hypocrite no?

Also for The Pvp keeper case, and you getting disciplined is a bit over dramatic. I read the convo in the sql, it did not go as he said, but he was a bit rude, and yes he was talked to and disciplined. GMs are Human so they do lose patience in rare occurence. The reason why you got disciplined? Its because you couldn't take orders from a higher Ranked GM, and that you were always giving troubles to any higher ranked GM.

The gm ideas are not ignored, its just that mostly of them are good as an idea, but not so good put into action. Also the pvp is balanced, its only you who doesn't seem to know how to make a PvP character. For the damage you say is "hax" i can make it MISS me by resistance alone. In addition, there is no such thing as perfect balance PvP, but we are getting pretty close to it.

This is a PvP server, so it naturally has a competitive community. We are always trying to make it better.

All in all, i accept any other opinions, but really, a Fired GM just trying to get back at the server is just sad. Especially the one causing the problems and "corruptions" was the GM herself.

OK i said my bit, now to get all the flames at me and all that, by Fired GMs or banned players. *heads for cover*

Edit: i saw your picture about GM Louis, its out of context (he was talking to friend), making a joke. Stop trying so hard to bash on TSBRO and just give a opinion. Unless you have proof, in context, and actually say something truthful, I might re consider your opinion.

BrokenIris

#11
I truly laugh at all this. I wasn't "begging" for items on my GM. I had asked one of my friends if I would borrow an extra Mario Helm for my legit. And yes, I asked on my GM. And I had told him not to give it to my GM so techincally I wasn't being corrupted. You ask why I didn't get the Mario helm from the Admin? Well, for one, he is never on and if he is, he never response. For two, I thought I would try to get something on my own. Which I did. I found nothing wrong with asking for an item on my GM when in plain view, I said it was for my legit and to not give it to my GM, but my legit instead. I'm not trying to get back at the server for being fired, I am stating facts. I know that there are @hide bots laying because I just know, k? How would I manipulate people when I was never on my GM LOL? And I never said I was always on GM and I always answered to @requests when I was barely ever on my GM in the first place. Maybe you should get some glasses and re-read my post and possibly read the ones after mine. I never said I was to busy to play Tsb rofl so wherever you got that from is a flat out lie lmao. Why would I report corruption if I was corrupted myself? I'm not corrupted in anyway because I think corruption is fracking gay as hell. And me being punished over PvP Keeper, if I'm not mistaken, 3 GMs including PvP Keeper was recalled to Candace, PvP Keeper was the first one to be dismissed while the rest of us got heat and false accusations. Btw, I don't how I lied about anything. The quote you couldn't find, someone else told me about it so that doesn't make me a liar. Just makes it seem I had false information. And like I said, the "troubles" and "corruption" was not caused by me.

Oh I forgot to add something, the only reason, or maybe the main reason, you are trying so hard, but failing so bad to flame is because Candace has favortism to you. That's all it is, nothing but favortism in the GM Team. If you aren't "close" with Candace, then you aren't heard.

Narcissist

Quote from: BrokenIris on Dec 29, 2010, 12:27 AM
I truly laugh at all this. I wasn't "begging" for items on my GM. I had asked one of my friends if I would borrow an extra Mario Helm for my legit. And yes, I asked on my GM. And I had told him not to give it to my GM so techincally I wasn't being corrupted. You ask why I didn't get the Mario helm from the Admin? Well, for one, he is never on and if he is, he never response. For two, I thought I would try to get something on my own. Which I did. I found nothing wrong with asking for an item on my GM when in plain view, I said it was for my legit and to not give it to my GM, but my legit instead. I'm not trying to get back at the server for being fired, I am stating facts. I know that there are @hide bots laying because I just know, k? How would I manipulate people when I was never on my GM LOL? And I never said I was always on GM and I always answered to @requests when I was barely ever on my GM in the first place. Maybe you should get some glasses and re-read my post and possibly read the ones after mine. I never said I was to busy to play Tsb rofl so wherever you got that from is a flat out lie lmao. Why would I report corruption if I was corrupted myself? I'm not corrupted in anyway because I think corruption is fracking gay as hell. And me being punished over PvP Keeper, if I'm not mistaken, 3 GMs including PvP Keeper was recalled to Candace, PvP Keeper was the first one to be dismissed while the rest of us got heat and false accusations. Btw, I don't how I lied about anything. The quote you couldn't find, someone else told me about it so that doesn't make me a liar. Just makes it seem I had false information. And like I said, the "troubles" and "corruption" was not caused by me.

Oh I forgot to add something, the only reason, or maybe the main reason, you are trying so hard, but failing so bad to flame is because Candace has favortism to you. That's all it is, nothing but favortism in the GM Team. If you aren't "close" with Candace, then you aren't heard.

Haha, im not a flaming type of person, i'm just trying to set out the facts strait. I seriously do not care of what people think. Again point by point.

Just knowing is not proof

You can Manipulate people and not be on GM (on legit, on msn)

What i said about you not having not enough times wasn't in your post, i was just explaining why you were fired. Also you asking for item was not your corruption.

Why would you be corrupt player talk about corruption? To make other people look the other way maybe? Just because you are accusing people of corruption doesn't mean you are not corrupted. Politician love to play that game. you can also take the witch hunting as an example, when corrupt people yell out witch to make people look the other way.

And PvP keeper was recalled after you 3 were punished to be talked alone since his disciplinary reason was different from you.

If you dont "lie" then i would say you take true information and put them in false context. aka lying

BrokenIris

#13
Explain to me how I "lied" and how I was "corrupted" because I would love to know /rice I have never tried to Manipulate anyone tbh and if people turned in favor then great. I have friends that think all this is s***. I never tried to manipulate anyone by any means. I still laugh at all this btw because it's not true what you say. Kinda funny how you are the only one posting. You posting in other people's favor or are they just not wanting to reply? Funny how you are the only one to point me out of a crowd David. Was it because you never liked me? Never don't answer that because I could honestly care less. Lol.


Yea ok that's what I thought~ <----- Edited btw.

ZeeBra

#14
this is childish we all can see that this certain gm got mad cause she was fired for the 3rd or 4th time i know for a fact she use to beg players for items she was hardly on her gm who is gm luna lol i know when others and i would pvp she was say *i'm gm luna don't kill me you fag* then would say that is teaming then it will say GM Luna has logged on boom we get muted haha are you going to really sit here and say that you hate tsbro but after 4 times being fired you fine your way back with the lies and other unbelievable things you said this time to come back your a manipulative person you use to beg
me for a build when i use to pvp you used to ask for items and such you don't even read you server rules why are you the only gm woeing and why you give your legit account out to a so called player you trust haha pls don't post here trying to act like your a saint and they fired you for no reason and so on you got fired for being a rude,nonjudgmental,one sided,favored, can on on for ever also you flirt with man players to get items on your legit from what i was told your preggo and have a man that is eff as a person and a mother i'm not flaming i'm stating facts and truth on this i also believe that i was the one reported to you about the vendors i found below go 14 and you told me admin mario kicked it and after he did a hide and seek your acting like tsbro is so bad but as of right this time 95 and YOU YOURSELF ARE ON THE SEVER admin candace your dissension  was right in firing her as you see why was planning on doing this from the get go. how is the admins are able to look for all the vendors player put up huh thats hard as for that this is countless this is just a post some one get upset took a game to HEART and trying to make others hard work look like poo i'm sorry i had to be to some hush,flaming think what you want but truth hurts kiddos.