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HELLO EVERYONE!  Well it turns out it WAS dawn.  Turns out he hacked my MSN and RMS account and made it so I can't join.  How do I know it's dawn?  well Ver 1 of this thread is now gone.  And my two posts I made in the server review have been changed to something highly uncharacteristically from what I would say.  The way he got into my MSN(and RMS accoung) is that the password is the same password I used for my accounts on solace.  Naturally he has the password and is able to "hack" into my account.  NOw I can not access my MSN nor my original account.  Earlier today Dawn was on my MSN talking to my friend Haelstrom.  It wasn't me cause I was on Vent about..5 minutes earlier before that happened going "Hey, I can't get into my MSN!"  So I try to password recovery my MSN and failing cause I can't get onto my old old old e-mail due to lack of password or something so that's lost for now until microsoft stops sucking **** and gets good tech support.  Then I go see Avatar, come back and try to figure out what to do.  Then my friend and a few others on vent brainstorm who it could be.  Then it dawns(lolol) on me who it could be.  I immediately come to RMS try to sign in using my password(doesn't work) then go look for my hall of shame thread.  It's gone.  So I go to the solace RO review thread I posted in recently and see both my posts were drastically changed.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-reviews/a-review-on-solacero/0/

I believe the first review was "everything (1/10)" and posted the review on RMS that I WAS gonna write but then found out, "I'm a problem user" =/  Which incidentally can only be done by the server owner(Dawn).  Scratch that, you can actually view my real post in Final's quotes(I love you final).

OH YAY.  now I really love you Final for quoting me.  I found the original thread now.  Looks like Dawn can only edit my posts not delete the thread!  ANYWAYS as a few of you have found out thru my MSN that I was hacked...I was.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,13024.30.html

I just want my MSN back.  T_T  So many contacts....

Wow, I actually IM'd you yesterday, and you never replied. xD

Dawn should be added to the HoS. Seriously. He deserves it.

1.- He gave away e-mails of his users.
2.- He used his DB to hack a player's msn, along with his RMS account, changing everything what he said.
3.- The information posted on the first thread should've been more than enough.

Quote from: Mitsuo2 on Jan 17, 2010, 07:36 PM
HELLO EVERYONE!  Well it turns out it WAS dawn.  Turns out he hacked my MSN and RMS account and made it so I can't join.  How do I know it's dawn?  well Ver 1 of this thread is now gone.  And my two posts I made in the server review have been changed to something highly uncharacteristically from what I would say.  The way he got into my MSN(and RMS accoung) is that the password is the same password I used for my accounts on solace.  Naturally he has the password and is able to "hack" into my account.  NOw I can not access my MSN nor my original account.  Earlier today Dawn was on my MSN talking to my friend Haelstrom.  It wasn't me cause I was on Vent about..5 minutes earlier before that happened going "Hey, I can't get into my MSN!"  So I try to password recovery my MSN and failing cause I can't get onto my old old old e-mail due to lack of password or something so that's lost for now until microsoft stops sucking d*** and gets good tech support.  Then I go see Avatar, come back and try to figure out what to do.  Then my friend and a few others on vent brainstorm who it could be.  Then it dawns(lolol) on me who it could be.  I immediately come to RMS try to sign in using my password(doesn't work) then go look for my hall of shame thread.  It's gone.  So I go to the solace RO review thread I posted in recently and see both my posts were drastically changed.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-reviews/a-review-on-solacero/0/

I believe the first review was "everything (1/10)" and posted the review on RMS that I WAS gonna write but then found out, "I'm a problem user" =/  Which incidentally can only be done by the server owner(Dawn).  Scratch that, you can actually view my real post in Final's quotes(I love you final).

OH YAY.  now I really love you Final for quoting me.  I found the original thread now.  Looks like Dawn can only edit my posts not delete the thread!  ANYWAYS as a few of you have found out thru my MSN that I was hacked...I was.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,13024.30.html

I just want my MSN back.  T_T  So many contacts....

OHHH that's why you were happy I quoted you lol...

Anyways yea, in my quote that is originally what Mitsuo had said.  Quotes ftw lol

Okay. Wow. That is just going way to effing far.
At this point Mits, I would have the cops totally involved by now. Because not only is Dawn invading your RO association, he is now invading your personal life, which is an invasion of privacy (takes big breath) which is punishable by law.

I think Dawn needs a LOT more than his crap donkey server delisted......

To be honest I dont understand why he isnt in the HoS by now.

1. Hacked a players MSN and RMS account so he couldnt tell people about what was going on.

2. He sells banned accounts (Other people's hard work and time where put into those.)

3. He changed the posts of Mitsuo.

4. Posted the private Emails of players so people on his excuse of a server can spam them with stupid messages or other things.

HoS is for the win people. He should be in there by now considering all the evidence that has been shown from a number of players.


+1 HoS please.

Requesting IP check to see if anyone else logged onto Mitsuo, I don't believe this.

It was not Dawn who hacked his MSN, I know Dawn very well and it was not him

This is why you always use different passwords.


ESPECIALLY for RO servers...

Actually .. I found something interesting.

I deleted the previous posts and will move this back to HoS.  You an continue the discussion from here, the other thread was edited heavily the topic now has very broken information I won't bother reopening it.

For my findings, email sent from their forum has this header (time/date/email removed):

Return-Path:           <[email protected]>
X-XXXXISG:       ksvi3XIWLDs.rxLpIuDOaIKUEvtZbkng5NqZhoWISsko1XM0C8ltsYNZz_2A94iJGUF.NQ.4SGY5UQ1EmLPNqN4dUuRX9.6cgeqplI5x7kvLuYxa60epdfBq.XN1Ca9qJPhe0cRbw4IxGk7Jyu9cNzVMGWgB3E_0p0lU.WQHd6NByQcD4PCgCSq7t.lcIcUbNLwVOm8GE0f_ilcEJYTKzE4HhWU0C4MuIOc.mUcgGBLnagohe6KI9Mlzl45jWhrPR2N80w4Lkc4ISUJGZZYnkKikcd41Xtd_nMLYeL4xwe4Fwa3h1sTjaFujWCRlOGl7Y1Prr.Igfwh.V2aMku99p03vYdm.TLc__ECyDOdBidh2kowbc6S8CNa7idiKwOqLt7BXEuSg7mNKSW1zknjLWzRybIvxl.FK
X-Originating-IP:       [208.113.175.8]
Authentication-Results:       mta1013.mail.XXXXXXXXXXXXX from=XXXXXXXXX; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=hotmail.com; dkim=neutral (no sig)
Received:       from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO smarty.dreamhost.com) (208.113.175.8) by mta1013.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; XXX, XX Jan 2010 XXXXXXXXXXX
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Now, one of the information there linked me right back to the information found on logs of Mitsuo's account.  I won't suspend the listing but I will lock and put down the listing until a satisfying answer is received.

can you also take my username off the trouble user list?  It's Gokufan101.

Quote from: Mitsuo2 on Jan 18, 2010, 12:02 AM
can you also take my username off the trouble user list?  It's Gokufan101.

No because you did broke the review guidelines and the owner did identified you.

what are you talking about I gave a honest review with truthfull information.  and if Dawn has been MIA since forever how did the "owner" say I was?

Stop going off-topic or it will get locked again.  I wouldn't know if it was Dawn or whoever registered for the listing.  Owner is referred to the listing owner, may or may not be server owner, it could be staff of the server.  Truthful information works but unreasonable score no.  Let say you have a problem with the gm but you gave everything 1 or 2 how is that reasonable that's covered by the review guidelines.



What?  Dawn MIA?  what about Dawn hacked you?  

Quote from: yC on Jan 18, 2010, 12:15 AM
What?  Dawn MIA?  what about Dawn hacked you?  

This is win. :DDD

I was saying how people supposedly say Dawn went MIA, yet you can tell he's still there.  For instance "dawn" hasn't been on the forums or anyways in a while yet all sorts of things are happening like me getting flagged as a troubled user on the review site, everyone getting banned that knows what Dawn is doing and doesn't like it.  Dawn IS the only one with access to the entire server's MSN list, let alone my password due to him probably not encrypting it.  This way he was able to get into my RMS and MSN due to them being the same password yet anything else has been untouched.  He also messaged my friends talking about Amistr.  Now originally I thought it may have been some one from amistr because I did not know that my RMS was hacked also, I only knew of my MSN at the time.  Then I remembered it might have been Dawn.  He has the access to take the passwords and considering I never gave my passwords out to anyone, that narrows it down to..well probably a few possiblilities.  But then I thought maybe it was Dawn and went to check my RMS thread on him to find it missing.  Then I find I can't log in, and my other posts in another thread similar were changed by some one other than me.  And only pertaining to Solace RO.  This was more of a "ah ha!" moment for me because that just nailed it.  It just has to be Dawn.  No one I know cares enough to frame me or Dawn like this so it can't be some of my friends.  Kythios himself is getting harassment not only by other players but Dawn also.  Everything just leads back to him...

hi there everyone...

uhm, i did some investigating of my own, with my friend charles, and it didn't really take that much time.

all i did was search 'proxy'...and before you know it, on the 2nd topic, here it is:
http://forum.solacero.net/index.php?topic=1613.0

the topic is really old...its march when they post it, but mitsuo makes her own reply..not sure if its the 1st or 2nd mitsuo tho..

i was particularly interested on the similar heading info, but then like baal, i dont think dawn has time to mess around either, so i did some digging with charles and found the link.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/w7lbnq.jpg)

i dont know if its a coincidence, or if this adds anything...but with the spy site inside the topic posted, i noticed u could go on ratemyserver forums with it...with that have anything to do with the dreamhost header possibly?

anyways, that's all i have to say..sorry if dawn is really guilty

this is malikie ingame for those who know me btw^^

odd, I won't deny that I posted there, I just can't really think of a reason....Though if I was to use a proxy(which I did to check out that thread on solace since I'm IP banned) I wouldn't use one from solace like that.  that's just stupid.  I quit that server about 9 months ago and havn't had anything to do with it till recently when Dawn gave my msn and everyone else's away.  He's harassed and bothered me before but I just ignored it.  I know my word won't really mean much since it's mine against what ever, but I 100% do not remember that site or thread.  It was probably in my posting sprees to be crowned one of the top posters.  Cause if you look at most of the posts at that time by me it was mainly just spam to increase post count. =/

That's even more interesting.  So much drama from this server.  I didn't expect he would have a http proxy script running openly on the webserver ...

I tested with my slave account on their glype script to check the IP logged by this forum, that's true it can produce the same result.  Now we are back to square one.

Still I have yet to heard from the server owner.  Actually my notification was bounced back with an error message from the mail server, if anyone want to get this resolved asap you can help notify the owner of this case.

I am pretty sure glype have access logs.

The owner wont reply to you. Dawn used that proxy back then to allow people we banned to access the forums and spam it again as well as use it himself so we couldn't connect his IP to his Admin account. (I was one of the former Staff members, in fact my name and my work is still all over the forums and server.)
Anyone who tries to even ask about these topics on his forums is banned and their links changed (by filter) to a good review.
It's really troubling to hear that Mitsuo's MSN was compromised as he has my new msn that Dawn didn't have. -_-; I can assure you Mits doesn't speak like this person does as I've known him for quite a long time.
In addition, there is no other Staff for SolaceRO. Dawn is the only one with power both on forums and in game. (Check the members list of the forums to see)
Theres no other person that could, or would do this specifically to make his server seem better and victimized so it wont be removed.

OK new development.  Microsoft tech support came through and I was able to get my MSN back but for a bit.  When I signed on though I had 860+ new contacts.  Here is a screenshot of some of them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNlist2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNlist.jpg)

I'm willing to bet every sing one of them is from Solace.  Does anyone notice their msn on there?  Also my name was changed to Killua instead of Mitsuo.  I was gonna message all the people on line and point them to here, but I was playing TF2 sooo I didn't really have a chance to.  Then when I get done playing TF2 I find out I was disconnected and I can't reconnect because my password is wrong.  you know what that means?  Yup Dawn some how changed my password.  The new password was something completely different from what I originally had on not only my MSN but solace.  So he couldn't have that.

Did you change your "security question"?
Probably you didn't.

Quote from: Mitsuo2 on Jan 18, 2010, 06:29 PM
OK new development.  Microsoft tech support came through and I was able to get my MSN back but for a bit.  When I signed on though I had 860+ new contacts.  Here is a screenshot of some of them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNlist2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNlist.jpg)

I'm willing to bet every sing one of them is from Solace.  Does anyone notice their msn on there?  Also my name was changed to Killua instead of Mitsuo.  I was gonna message all the people on line and point them to here, but I was playing TF2 sooo I didn't really have a chance to.  Then when I get done playing TF2 I find out I was disconnected and I can't reconnect because my password is wrong.  you know what that means?  Yup Dawn some how changed my password.  The new password was something completely different from what I originally had on not only my MSN but solace.  So he couldn't have that.

i was unsure before mitsuo's latest post who to believe...but what u are saying now makes it seem unbelievable...

you say that dawn hacked your msn...and added "860+ new contacts."(quoted by you)

That would mean you only had...maybe...2 contacts before, if I did my math right...

You also said before though...

QuoteI just want my MSN back.  T_T  So many contacts....

how many contacts did you really have before..surely not 2..

You also said...

QuoteI'm willing to bet every sing one of them is from Solace.

I don't think solacero ever had 860 members with msn...esp. compared to the current servers population...30 merchants and maybe 20-30 players on at one time..

And you got hacked shortly after you retrieved your msn back too..just because i quote from you "I was playing TF2 sooo I didn't really have a chance to."...team fortress 2 is more important than your identity? however, you manage to take screenshots of your "new" contact list before it gets hacked again...

it just seems like it is really convenient for you to do this mitsuo...

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 18, 2010, 07:34 PM
i was unsure before mitsuo's latest post who to believe...but what u are saying now makes it seem unbelievable...

you say that dawn hacked your msn...and added "860+ new contacts."(quoted by you)

That would mean you only had...maybe...2 contacts before, if I did my math right...

You also said before though...

QuoteI just want my MSN back.  T_T  So many contacts....

how many contacts did you really have before..surely not 2..

You also said...

QuoteI'm willing to bet every sing one of them is from Solace.

I don't think solacero ever had 860 members with msn...esp. compared to the current servers population...30 merchants and maybe 20-30 players on at one time..

And you got hacked shortly after you retrieved your msn back too..just because i quote from you "I was playing TF2 sooo I didn't really have a chance to."...team fortress 2 is more important than your identity? however, you manage to take screenshots of your "new" contact list before it gets hacked again...

it just seems like it is really convenient for you to do this mitsuo...

The total number of contacts I had before is unknown  I do not simply sort all my contacts into "MSN"  I have about 4 different categories that I put friends in.  Buddies, forum buddies, family and recent.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNlist3.jpg)

This means that the "MSN" contact area would be 0 which it was.

Solace RO was a fairly big server at one time and a lot of people do use MSN at the time.  While I do admit not all are from Solace, I am willing to bet most are.  Current server population doesn't mean anything.

I WAS planning on foregoing TF2 to resolve everything with the MSN but my friends told me that my MSN will still be there and that they were playing TF2 at the time.  Considering I was the one going, "He guyz lets play tf2!" like 15 minutes earlier I felt bad about getting them on to ditch them.  Of course I, nor any of my friends would have though Dawn would have gotten my MSN yet again.  If I knew he was I would have said screw tf2 and just continued.  I took the 2 screenshoots as they were trying to get me back in.

It's funny how everyone is trying to make Mitsuo look bad.

Indeed, his display name got changed to "Killua" yesterday.

It's true Solace used to be a big server; Dawn could have easily harvested MSNs from the database and imported the contacts / imported his OWN contacts onto that list from his previous MSN.

Meh. Not getting into it lol

yes, my one friend told me he could have linked his MSN with mine which could also be how he got the MSN back other than security question and alternate e-mail.

but you also got your friend Tom~ to propose a solution 3 minutes after you made your post...

you said dawn 'somehow' hacked ur msn, and then Tom~ posted clarification quik for you...

what a nice friend, but still...fishy..

Lol? You're funny, duane. I talked with him once, but I still have his email on my msn.

Also, don't make baseless assumptions like "you got your friend Tom~ to propose a solution".

Just because I know him (because I don't think talking with someone once is enough to make a friend), you shouldn't say I have been told to support his HoS report.

@duane14- Nothings fishy at all. I can tell you straight up from being part of the same Staff that Dawn is a kid who's gone wrong. (I'm the one who wrote all those hat quests, with help from friends on some.) You're still on the server so you can even attest to the activity that goes on the forums. ANYONE who post's anything asking about what happened or posting answers to what happened is immediately banned. <-- This much you can see for yourself.
Mits was stupid enough to have his msn info the same as his forum and ingame info from Solace. With this much Dawn could EASILY access and attempt to take control of Mits' MSN. Can you think of a reason for him to purposely fake all this a year after he deleted and quit Solace?
And yes, Solace had quite a bunch of players before things started to go bad (see further down) so 860 isn't an impossible number to reach.

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 18, 2010, 02:04 AM
anyways, that's all i have to say..sorry if dawn is really guilty

He is. No doubt, undeniable, witnessed by several several people (do you think 15+ people who QUIT his server a year ago would suddenly come back to start s*** together NOW?)

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 18, 2010, 02:04 AM
uhm, i did some investigating of my own, with my friend charles, and it didn't really take that much time.

If you insist on looking at old posts to try to prove or disprove anything, do some more investigating. Search Tokirocket's posts, she has some nice incriminating evidence of Dawn's corruption in the last 3 before he banned HER. Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)
Need moar?
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8633.0.html

Come on now. All that above would be enough to toss him on the GM Hall of Shame, which is what I believe the whole point of this is for. It's just recently he decided to go a step further and harass people who have absolutely nothing to do with his server anymore, and we brought it to everyone else's attention to WARN them of both him, and inputting any info (emails, passwords, etc) on any server connected to him.

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn1-1.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn2.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/dawn3.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/imnamingthisfiledawntoo.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

Note: Reuploaded screenshots since dawn hacked my photobucket and tried to discredit me >:

Thank you, Billy.

Dawn made a post on another topic of this forum yesterday. I'd like to see him posting here :)

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

What I don't get is why every screen shot is taken from the character "Dawn"  And also, the last one..you really messed up on...with the blackened slab you put their..it is basically..useless for argumentative purpose...

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 08:28 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

What I don't get is why every screen shot is taken from the character "Dawn"  And also, the last one..you really messed up on...with the blackened slab you put their..it is basically..useless for argumentative purpose...

what blackened slab? I screenshotted the forum and didn't edit anything o_o; and none is taken from dawn what? I just named them that so I would know which files were which.
you totally lost me on whatever you were saying XD

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 10:57 PM

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 08:28 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

What I don't get is why every screen shot is taken from the character "Dawn"  And also, the last one..you really messed up on...with the blackened slab you put their..it is basically..useless for argumentative purpose...

what blackened slab? I screenshotted the forum and didn't edit anything o_o; and none is taken from dawn what? I just named them that so I would know which files were which.
you totally lost me on whatever you were saying XD

Uh..In every screen shot your character name is Dawn.  Ok theres that.  Next is, in your very last screen shot you claimed to not be able to see the text and then put what appears to be a black line over to text which I assume was to make it show up better but all it did was make it look fake..oh so fake..lol

Your characters name up top is on Dawn in them all. In the second, you're typing what looks to be Revengeorog, for their roll. Which has Dawn calling them just a little above.

Also, even if your transparency didn't work, it shouldn't have those wonky corners in the last screen shot. Every corner on it is a different degree of wonkiness. oO

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

1) Your name is Dawn in those screenshots
2) If that was a real broadcast, it'd show up in the message box on your screen at the bottom
3) The fact the background is black makes #2 look even more suspicious
4) The black is wonky lol it's obvious it was a black box and you just typed over it in yellow; refer to #2 as well
5) Look how it's typed:

- First Screenshot, it shows: "Dawn : [Message]" with a space between "Dawn" and ":"
- Second Screenshot, it shows "Dawn: [Message]" with no space between "Dawn" and ":"
- Third Screenshot, it shows "Dawn:[Message]" with no spaces between "Dawn", ":", and "[Message]".

You fail.

Okay Hold on a second for some reason you all are seeing screenshots IM -NOT- and my photobucket account was just hacked. I'll reupload to another but im still like wtf cuz i cant see what you see haha

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:23 PM
Okay Hold on a second for some reason you all are seeing screenshots IM -NOT- and my photobucket account was just hacked. I'll reupload to another but im still like wtf cuz i cant see what you see haha

Actually, I'm a forum addict, and I saw those pictures the moment you posted 'em. 'Just didn't say anything 'til now. "Hacked" my butt.

No one's going to believe any pics you put up now lol You screwed your one chance at deceiving us.

Quote from: Yusifer on Jan 19, 2010, 11:26 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:23 PM
Okay Hold on a second for some reason you all are seeing screenshots IM -NOT- and my photobucket account was just hacked. I'll reupload to another but im still like wtf cuz i cant see what you see haha

Actually, I'm a forum addict, and I saw those pictures the moment you posted 'em. 'Just didn't say anything 'til now. "Hacked" my butt.

No one's going to believe any pics you put up now lol You screwed your one chance at deceiving us.

Yusifers right, Those pics never changed.  Been like that since you posted here.

Look at the first screenshot. His name isn't Dawn, but "ilyupgrades". On the screenshot, he/she/it is PMing Dawn. It clearly says "To Dawn".

And, just to clarify, Billy is not the one who appears in those screenies. He posted something another user posted on SolaceRO forums. :)

Quote from: Yusifer on Jan 19, 2010, 11:26 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:23 PM
Okay Hold on a second for some reason you all are seeing screenshots IM -NOT- and my photobucket account was just hacked. I'll reupload to another but im still like wtf cuz i cant see what you see haha

Actually, I'm a forum addict, and I saw those pictures the moment you posted 'em. 'Just didn't say anything 'til now. "Hacked" my butt.

No one's going to believe any pics you put up now lol You screwed your one chance at deceiving us.

You obviously didnt see s*** because I posted them earlier and TOM saw them and they wern't what you saw. I'd appreciate it if you thought a little outside the box here. That photobucket account had the same pw as my old solace pw, heres the original screenshots, and no they arent IN GAME screenshots, they're screenshots of HIS forum from SOMEONE else's post.
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn1-1.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn2.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/dawn3.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/imnamingthisfiledawntoo.jpg

I wouldn't go out of the way to delete my entire photobucket just to fake s***. Honestly, if you're that much of a forum addict, you would have seen these originally.

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:29 PM

Quote from: Yusifer on Jan 19, 2010, 11:26 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:23 PM
Okay Hold on a second for some reason you all are seeing screenshots IM -NOT- and my photobucket account was just hacked. I'll reupload to another but im still like wtf cuz i cant see what you see haha

Actually, I'm a forum addict, and I saw those pictures the moment you posted 'em. 'Just didn't say anything 'til now. "Hacked" my butt.

No one's going to believe any pics you put up now lol You screwed your one chance at deceiving us.

You obviously didnt see s*** because I posted them earlier and TOM saw them and they wern't what you saw. I'd appreciate it if you thought a little outside the box here. That photobucket account had the same pw as my old solace pw, heres the original screenshots, and no they arent IN GAME screenshots, they're screenshots of HIS forum from SOMEONE else's post.
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn1-1.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn2.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/dawn3.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/imnamingthisfiledawntoo.jpg

I wouldn't go out of the way to delete my entire photobucket just to fake s***. Honestly, if you're that much of a forum addict, you would have seen these originally.

Ah, okay. Those one's make more sense lol The other ones were terrible; they pretty much shouted "I'm a nub who used paint to try to fool everyone"

Change your PB pass if you haven't already, in this case.

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 11:29 PM
Look at the first screenshot. His name isn't Dawn, but "ilyupgrades". On the screenshot, he/she/it is PMing Dawn. It clearly says "To Dawn".

And, just to clarify, Billy is not the one who appears in those screenies. He posted something another user posted on SolaceRO forums. :)

Dawn hacked my photobucket and faked some screenshots, changed the links to that so people would see it, then removed it. =( luckily you saw em and these forum "addicts" didn't. Please verify that my previous post are indeed the screenshots (with an additional one i JUST took on his forum) I first posted. <3 ty

@Yusifer, I did try but all the info is changed and its deleted. Sad, I'm gonna have to redo backgrounds for some sites since they linked there, but whatevs.

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:34 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 11:29 PM
Look at the first screenshot. His name isn't Dawn, but "ilyupgrades". On the screenshot, he/she/it is PMing Dawn. It clearly says "To Dawn".

And, just to clarify, Billy is not the one who appears in those screenies. He posted something another user posted on SolaceRO forums. :)

Dawn hacked my photobucket and faked some screenshots, changed the links to that so people would see it, then removed it. =( luckily you saw em and these forum "addicts" didn't. Please verify that my previous post are indeed the screenshots (with an additional one i JUST took on his forum) I first posted. <3 ty

@Yusifer, I did try but all the info is changed and its deleted. Sad, I'm gonna have to redo backgrounds for some sites since they linked there, but whatevs.

Sucks ): I remember that happening to me; I had 6000 images! ><

Ah, well.

Dawn wasn't very nice when I played his server anyway :P Don't mind him getting slapped around a bit, as long as it's just.

Quote from: Yusifer on Jan 19, 2010, 11:35 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 11:34 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 11:29 PM
Look at the first screenshot. His name isn't Dawn, but "ilyupgrades". On the screenshot, he/she/it is PMing Dawn. It clearly says "To Dawn".

And, just to clarify, Billy is not the one who appears in those screenies. He posted something another user posted on SolaceRO forums. :)

Dawn hacked my photobucket and faked some screenshots, changed the links to that so people would see it, then removed it. =( luckily you saw em and these forum "addicts" didn't. Please verify that my previous post are indeed the screenshots (with an additional one i JUST took on his forum) I first posted. <3 ty

@Yusifer, I did try but all the info is changed and its deleted. Sad, I'm gonna have to redo backgrounds for some sites since they linked there, but whatevs.

Sucks ): I remember that happening to me; I had 6000 images! ><

Ah, well.

Dawn wasn't very nice when I played his server anyway :P Don't mind him getting slapped around a bit, as long as it's just.

Yush. I did so much work for his server and he tried to pin s*** on me afterwards. I apologize for his fail attempts at discrediting me, but I have all the evidence I need to prove his corruption and ridiculous antics saved on my harddrive. (I simply never got around to deleting it after all the drama.)

How many of you SolaceRO players are morons?  Like seriously..Everything on the web has a password changing option and..of course...Why do you all constantly use the same password for everything?  Rofl..oh well..honestly..it happens..but..idk lol

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 11:45 PM
How many of you SolaceRO players are morons?  Like seriously..Everything on the web has a password changing option and..of course...Why do you all constantly use the same password for everything?  Rofl..oh well..honestly..it happens..but..idk lol

See, I have 3 different photobucket accounts and I use different passwords for nearly everything. He just got lucky and that one hasn't changed since forever ago (honestly i didnt even know the pw seeing as I have it set to autologin) but, at the very least you can see his desperate attempt to harrass us. ;\

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 11:45 PM
How many of you SolaceRO players are morons?  Like seriously..Everything on the web has a password changing option and..of course...Why do you all constantly use the same password for everything?  Rofl..oh well..honestly..it happens..but..idk lol

It's because we have so many passwords for every little thing on the internet that it would become impossible to remember everything.  Simplify it down to 2-3 passwords for everything and you should be good.  The one password I have I mainly used for everything with another one or two on other sites requiring more detailed passwords.  I never would have thought my password would be stolen by a private server that doesn't encrypt the passwords.

Im sorry but its just really hard to believe that so many ppl from one server do the exact same thing.

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 11:54 PM
Im sorry but its just really hard to believe that so many ppl from one server do the exact same thing.

You really need to look around more XD; A lot of people use ONE password for everything, period. I rarely use the password he had as I've changed most everything a long time ago so my ex gf couldn't access crap. I just...didn't know what pw that photobucket acc had since it autologins. :[

However, we're really derailing because of this all.

I still propose Dawn is added to the GM Hall of Shame. All evidence for it can be found in this thread and they really just seem like good reasons. Both old corruption (unaware of it now since I havn't been on the server for a while), and his new harassment should be enough neh?

Quote from: Final on Jan 19, 2010, 11:54 PM
Im sorry but its just really hard to believe that so many ppl from one server do the exact same thing.

It's a lot more common than you would think.  Not many people put as much effort into multiple passwords than you.

Well turns out microsoft took a lil longer this time in proccessing my request than normal but they came through.  I was able to get my account back and some interesting information. 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNdebacle.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Gokufan101/MSNdebacle2.jpg)

I'm going to add this in case theres still any doubt that my photobucket was hacked.
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/photobucketproof.jpg

I got the account back but everything remains deleted. =(

Final, you coming in here and just bashing on Billy and Mits is uncalled for. I'm sure you're not the "prefect being" you think you are. Take it down a notch. You're no god. Anyway, besides getting those add spams on MSN, nothing else has happened to me so far. I've changed so many of my passwords, even if they weren't the same as the ones I used on Solace. The evidence Billy and Mitsuo put forth in both threads should be more than enough to put Dawn in the Hall of Shame and get Solace blacklisted. The sooner that's done, the less victims there will be...I can see that there are still people joining the server right now...

I'm surprised this is still going on. I've moved on by leaps and bounds, getting a new career in life as a mechanic, and wasting my free time grinding on an entirely different MMORPG. To find after work today that Mitsuo was spamming me urgently (my name particularly) only to find out that it was about this, I pretty much read over both the old and new topic.

At this point, I can't say as I give a damn anymore, but I can say he should just be dropped on the HoS; and I don't want to hear anything further about it as I'm not involved with Solace anymore, and haven't been for a good while. I've got better things to do than e-drama it up with Dawn and Solace. It's very clear that he's up to no good, and it's also clear he's malicious as an administrator. I can verify that the screenshots posted by Mitsuo are correct since I was there for that topic, and was also there by Dawn's order to lock it up, if not delete it. Which I think I ended up doing after I locked it. Or he did. I forget. I'd give you the MSN log of it if it weren't on my dead computer; but once I get an enclosure for the thing, maybe I'll be able to pull it up, if I can remember or give enough of a damn.

If Dawn's transgressions, without a doubt, aren't enough...Wasn't him sending out the falsified e-mail, and even that letter to my house justification enough?

Also: Change your passwords, people. I already said this on MSN to most everyone that came to me about the MSN adds thing. Either that, or get a whole new MSN.

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

this is the worst acting i've ever seen billy...you create this screenshots that don't even look legit, yet when you receive a little bit of criticism from ur friends and now you act dumb.. don't try to remove those screenshots you obviously changed around..i got a copy of them so yea...

u know...if ur friends got hacked by the admin as u say..wouldnt that make u think twice about changin ur pass??

im not even sure if what tom is saying is the truth...it seems like he's always there to back u guys up with whatever u want ppl to see when u need it..really fast response time too

oh...i refresh my page and you already remove ><

does anyone have the original screenies, the ones originally put up that look like sh*t, jus so we can post them here for possible viewing?

QuoteIt's because we have so many passwords for every little thing on the internet that it would become impossible to remember everything.

Your MSN account is not a little thing..i would always make sure my email and chat im r protected first thing..

also, how can u determine whether or not passwords are encrypted?

final is definitely right as well...u guys look smart when posting, but when it comes to a simple thing as maintaining your password...how convenient it is for u to just get "hacked."

even when u get "hacked", it helps u out cuz u blame it on the admin and it helps..

also, ur new screenshots dont really show too much either...it looks like you pulled it out of your *** to quickly replace ur old, horible ones

there is no direct evidence that dawn is the one who hacked mitsuo...for all we know, kyithios could have given mitsuo the ip and they could have looked him up and matched a close zip code or state..assumin dawn is from california, usa..

billy..can i see the header info on the email to verify if it's really from photobucket..and also, do u have any distinctions that would show dawn was the one that hacked ur photobucket..

QuoteFinal, you coming in here and just bashing on Billy and Mits is uncalled for.

do not bash final just because there is opposition. he was and may still be supportin u guys..and just because he may show some sort of disagreement...that does not mean anything..he is only trying to get the facts straight like i am..its like when i said some opposition and tom said:

QuoteIt's funny how everyone is trying to make Mitsuo look bad.

..and when yusifer responded opposition once, u typed:

QuoteYou obviously didnt see s*** because I posted them earlier and TOM saw them and they wern't what you saw. I'd appreciate it if you thought a little outside the box here.

there is no real proof that the admin of solace did any of the things u guys intended..can we please get one snippet of REAL proof? otherwise, this all sounds like a big setup..doesnt matter how many ppl u have...u may all just be a big group of friends..i just want real proof..

Well, I know a lot of people use only one password for everything, so it's quite likely. I actually use 4-5 different passwords for various things, but most people only use one, not realizing the risk there is for that. I'm sure these people assume that nothing bad can come of it, that their password is "so secure that no one could possibly guess it", but it's not just about guessing. When someone has access to a log file, like on a private RO server, you don't know who has that information and when it'll leak / if it truly is confidential. Unfortunately, people just assume that nothing'll happen and depend on someone else - something even I've learned never to do, except under very, very precise circumstances.

The old screenies were obviously fakes, but the new ones are more convincing. I'm on the fence.

Duane... i'm really active on this forum. Well, on my spare time. I refresh the page every 5 minutes to see if a new post has been made. That's why. Please, stop making stupid assumptions. As I said, I talked with Mitsuo once in my life. Just because I think Dawn deserves to be in the HoS i'm supposed to be "helping him"? Why don't you read the previous thread? There are some interesting posts there.

Also, yC got some info that related SolaceRO with Mitsuo's hacking. I think. That's what I understood from her post o_o;

I have never talked with Billy either. Don't try to make me look bad dear, i'm just voicing my opinion.

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 20, 2010, 07:09 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Quote from: Billy on Jan 19, 2010, 12:23 AM
Do I need to mention he tried to screw the server then blame it on me? Luckily I got the logs before it happened and quit after informing the public. (Let me know if these posts mysteriously dissappear before you check, I screenshotted them ;3)

Can you please post said screenshots? It seems like all the proofs that have been posted are not enough to add him to the HoS. >_>

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/Dawn2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Cryptic69/dawn3.jpg

They're quite old, far before duane14 came upon Solace. I just figured since he used old posts to try to prove/disprove his ideas, I could too. :x

this is the worst acting i've ever seen billy...you create this screenshots that don't even look legit, yet when you receive a little bit of criticism from ur friends and now you act dumb.. don't try to remove those screenshots you obviously changed around..i got a copy of them so yea...

u know...if ur friends got hacked by the admin as u say..wouldnt that make u think twice about changin ur pass??

im not even sure if what tom is saying is the truth...it seems like he's always there to back u guys up with whatever u want ppl to see when u need it..really fast response time too

oh...i refresh my page and you already remove ><

does anyone have the original screenies, the ones originally put up that look like sh*t, jus so we can post them here for possible viewing?

QuoteIt's because we have so many passwords for every little thing on the internet that it would become impossible to remember everything.

Your MSN account is not a little thing..i would always make sure my email and chat im r protected first thing..

also, how can u determine whether or not passwords are encrypted?

final is definitely right as well...u guys look smart when posting, but when it comes to a simple thing as maintaining your password...how convenient it is for u to just get "hacked."

even when u get "hacked", it helps u out cuz u blame it on the admin and it helps..

also, ur new screenshots dont really show too much either...it looks like you pulled it out of your *** to quickly replace ur old, horible ones

there is no direct evidence that dawn is the one who hacked mitsuo...for all we know, kyithios could have given mitsuo the ip and they could have looked him up and matched a close zip code or state..assumin dawn is from california, usa..

billy..can i see the header info on the email to verify if it's really from photobucket..and also, do u have any distinctions that would show dawn was the one that hacked ur photobucket..

QuoteFinal, you coming in here and just bashing on Billy and Mits is uncalled for.

do not bash final just because there is opposition. he was and may still be supportin u guys..and just because he may show some sort of disagreement...that does not mean anything..he is only trying to get the facts straight like i am..its like when i said some opposition and tom said:

QuoteIt's funny how everyone is trying to make Mitsuo look bad.

..and when yusifer responded opposition once, u typed:

QuoteYou obviously didnt see s*** because I posted them earlier and TOM saw them and they wern't what you saw. I'd appreciate it if you thought a little outside the box here.

there is no real proof that the admin of solace did any of the things u guys intended..can we please get one snippet of REAL proof? otherwise, this all sounds like a big setup..doesnt matter how many ppl u have...u may all just be a big group of friends..i just want real proof..

I knew you were gonna say something so I took the time to watch your account quite a bit and it hadn't logged on from your last post till now, so please, dont say you saw anything. In fact, if you have the SECOND (and completely obvious faked) screenshots that were posted after my photobucket account was tampered with (seriously, you dont believe the email from photobucket lmao. Inquire if the ticket number shown in the ss was indeed a real issue with that account, I dare you.) I'm more inclined than before to believe you're Dawn coming back here after failing to set me up with the blame. (again lol) I dont know Tom, but I'm incredibly grateful that he saw the first screenshots before it was tampered with.

But really uhm, those screenshots, were straight from your own forum. If you'd taken the time to go check yourself, if you're not Dawn, you would have seen the same things I screenshotted. Funny, however, that you didnt go check before arguing that my screenshots are fake. I question whether you really want to know the truth since the posts in the screenshots i posted are STILL there.
I challenge anyone to go check for yourselves. yC even. (Better go quick before Dawn realizes they're still there and deletes them.)

http://forum.solacero.net/index.php?action=profile;u=1621;sa=showPosts
Register, login, so you can see the same thing I've posted.

QuoteI knew you were gonna say something so I took the time to watch your account quite a bit and it hadn't logged on from your last post till now, so please, dont say you saw anything.

lol..my firefox clears my data every time i close it, including cookies, so just because im not on duane doesnt mean im not watching stuff over rms..i have been carefully tracking the posts..its good to know u are constantly tracking my progress tho..im ur only opposition after all, here it seems

QuoteInquire if the ticket number shown in the ss was indeed a real issue with that account, I dare you.

all i was asking for was the header info of the email sent from photobucket...dont feel threatened...and maybe some proof that dawn, or the admin of solace, hacked it..

QuoteI'm more inclined than before to believe you're Dawn coming back here after failing to set me up with the blame.

you are one very paranoid man...im a player of solacero, but if u are inclined to believe so, thats fine...all my posts still stand..regardless of who u think i am

im not calling the screenshots u recently posted fake...but the ones you or your "hacker" posted before, those were obviously edited.im just sayin those screenshots u posted now arent really effective at proving anything...like in my previous reply if you actually read it, screenshots that you "pulled it out of your *** to quickly replace ur old, horible ones"

QuoteI question whether you really want to know the truth

i want to know the truth...but if u cant accept a bit of criticism, this thread is simply pointless..

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 20, 2010, 10:23 PM

QuoteI knew you were gonna say something so I took the time to watch your account quite a bit and it hadn't logged on from your last post till now, so please, dont say you saw anything.

lol..my firefox clears my data every time i close it, including cookies, so just because im not on duane doesnt mean im not watching stuff over rms..i have been carefully tracking the posts..its good to know u are constantly tracking my progress tho..im ur only opposition after all, here it seems

QuoteInquire if the ticket number shown in the ss was indeed a real issue with that account, I dare you.

all i was asking for was the header info of the email sent from photobucket...dont feel threatened...and maybe some proof that dawn, or the admin of solace, hacked it..

QuoteI'm more inclined than before to believe you're Dawn coming back here after failing to set me up with the blame.

you are one very paranoid man...im a player of solacero, but if u are inclined to believe so, thats fine...all my posts still stand..regardless of who u think i am

im not calling the screenshots u recently posted fake...but the ones you or your "hacker" posted before, those were obviously edited.im just sayin those screenshots u posted now arent really effective at proving anything...like in my previous reply if you actually read it, screenshots that you "pulled it out of your *** to quickly replace ur old, horible ones"

QuoteI question whether you really want to know the truth

i want to know the truth...but if u cant accept a bit of criticism, this thread is simply pointless..

I'm much more talented than using paint to make screenshots a 4 year old could tell are faked, but none the less, think for a bit. Would I honestly post those screenshots thinking people will believe them? Read this for a second - The first screenshots I posted, were the forum screenshots. It doesn't make sense for me to have the screenshots of the forums, and then change them to the obviously faked ones, and then back to the first ones, now does it?

I'd gladly give you whatever header info you want, but all the info from the email is right in the screenshot I posted. Not sure what else you want. Does photobucket have a header they send that I dont know about? Heres an idea, send them an email and see if they respond with one that looks exactly the same as mine.

I don't have direct proof of Dawn being the actual one who hacked it, but seeing as the info there was the same as my info on Solace and I had uploaded screenshots showing his corruptness, I used a bit of common sense to guess who would want to remove those pictures. Do you have a better guess? What's funny is this post isn't about him hacking my photobucket, that was simply my explanation for why the photos changed from the first posted ones to the horribly faked ones.

All your posts have been refuted, time and time again, as you continue to ignore the validity of everyone else's.

The fact is:

• Dawn is a corrupt Admin <-- Proof of this is all that is asked for to place him in the GM Hall of Shame, which we provided.
• He harasses players <-- Many many people came here (some I dont even know) to say the same thing. We were all old players of Solace from a year ago and all got Email-spammed by someone who had access to all the emails registered with Solace (Who else has access to them?)

We've proved all of the above and that right there makes this thread have a point- To place Dawn in the GM Hall of Shame.
If you have any actual argument about whether hes corrupt or not, please, post, because that's what this post is about. Even if we cant 100% prove he harassed us, the corruptness is ENOUGH to be put in the Hall of Shame. The harassment is just icing on the cake. Get it?[/list]

Quote from: Typhoon on Jan 20, 2010, 04:39 PM
Final, you coming in here and just bashing on Billy and Mits is uncalled for. I'm sure you're not the "prefect being" you think you are. Take it down a notch. You're no god. Anyway, besides getting those add spams on MSN, nothing else has happened to me so far. I've changed so many of my passwords, even if they weren't the same as the ones I used on Solace. The evidence Billy and Mitsuo put forth in both threads should be more than enough to put Dawn in the Hall of Shame and get Solace blacklisted. The sooner that's done, the less victims there will be...I can see that there are still people joining the server right now...

All I have done is try to refute any evidence put forth as I ALWAYS DO!

So what if I decide to think the opposite of what you think?  Think about it moron, how can I agree if I haven't seen it myself?  Thing is, I can't.  hahaha

And hey, It's not my fault if some people use one password, I mean..its hard to memorize 20 digit passes all the time.  So you know..It sucks..but it happens..so oh well, get over it.



@topic :  Seems to me you are all turning on each other.  Brings great pleasure to these forums <_<

QuoteThe first screenshots I posted, were the forum screenshots.

i do not know what you mean by this..im pretty sure the 1st screenshots you or the hacker posted were originates of dawn's account

QuoteIt doesn't make sense for me to have the screenshots of the forums,

assuming u had these on the first place...is there any way you can show a cache of the original images..?

QuoteI'd gladly give you whatever header info you want, but all the info from the email is right in the screenshot I posted.

there should be a view header option somewhere...thats what u would use to view full details to see if it really came from photobucket..

QuoteAll your posts have been refuted

you have not refuted all of the points im trying to make, only ones that seem easy for u to refute...readers of my posts should be aware of that..

Quotetime and time again, as you continue to ignore the validity of everyone else's.

i have acknowledged everyone elses, otherwise i would not constantly quote them..its not that i ignore them, but the fact that u consider such postings proof is broadly defined, because on one hand, you say dawn does these things, and maybe if u have ppl to reinforce it, but im looking for the concrete...

lets look at your recent 4 images to show u want i mean...:
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn1-1.jpg

here, yes, we see someone obviously bloody branching..and it is obvious that they have contacted dawn...
but where is dawn's consent on this, or the actual @killmonster taking place..for all we know, dawn could be hitting @raise, which would say "mercy has been shown"..reading further into the actual topic, an explanation is shown from the man himself:

QuoteAll I see is you telling me to kill the MVPs that you spawned in the sunken ship area, while I was watching over PvP and using @raise to revive people. Where does it show where I decline you, and why is your chat box adjusted to a certain size to accommodate your screenshots?

http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/Dawn2.jpg

we just see here that u may be a bad gm as you're being requested to be "watched"..same with doubting kyi's adminship..where is the reasoning behind the wipe, or why dawn consented...or if he was only screwing around with them...after all, the chat was on 3/13, and when exactly was this wipe??

turns out server was actually wiped 4/16...a whole month later:
http://forum.solacero.net/index.php?topic=2005.0

http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/xBillehx/dawn3.jpg

did the wipe actually happen during woe? no. im assuming it was dawn just screwing with them again..this questionability in each of your proofs, assumin they're ur strongest evidence, does not suffice for an addition in HoS alone...unless dawn hacked those accs as u mention..in that case, i request real proof of the admin connection..

Duane, with "forum screenshots", he meant he took screenshots from some posts on SolaceRO forums.

@duane14, I'm going to direct you to stuff time and time again you've not even acknowledged.
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8633.0.html
Go. Tell me thats not hard evidence of corruption.

You're not pretty sure the 1st screenshots I posted were on dawns account because....wait a second...how would I get screenshots of being on Dawns Admin account? /questions
Anywho, yeah, I'm pretty sure, since I'm the one who posted it, that I posted the forum screenies. ;o;

Is there any way you can prove they wern't the original screenies? Or can you only say the obviously faked ones were the first ones you saw?

The first image shows a normal player in @hide. How does that happen? Oh yeah theres a GM command called #hide which hides other players. As you can see, that player is clearly not cloaked (no cloaking icon) yet alive at full hp with no character showing. Hmmm????? (This was all pointed out in that thread but thats when Dawn banned and removed those posts. I would know, I was there.)

The second image was Dawn conspiring with the same player(s) from the first image, to wipe. I was a wonderful GM! Ask anyone. ^_^
3rd image is more of the conversation o;

Yet, After discovering the behind the scenes conspiracy, I fought Dawn hard and strong with the public at my back to not wipe (As a GM I sure had some power bein that the public backed me over him). Eventually I got sick of it, after discovering their whole plan was to blame it on me, (I'd show you chat logs with them on msn, but you'd just go around saying how can I prove its not faked.) and I quit my GM position and left the server. Soon after he wiped anyway.

As for the photobucket header, there is none. I have all shown by default. Photobucket responded to a Tech Support report, which doesnt always require a header. If you really dont believe me, try it yourself, please.

Quote@duane14, I'm going to direct you to stuff time and time again you've not even acknowledged.
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8633.0.html
Go. Tell me thats not hard evidence of corruption.

dont assume such a thing...i have not pointed that out because i thought the posts by ppl on that page by orange, ilyjuy, the man himself, lanryte, and even trinity, mitsuo's friend...explain themselves..

dont tell me ur going to read the 1st or last post of the topic and not read the stuff in the middle..oh wait, thats what u pretty much have been doin with my posts.. ><

QuoteYou're not pretty sure the 1st screenshots I posted were on dawns account because....wait a second...how would I get screenshots of being on Dawns Admin account? /questions

thats what im still tryin to figure out, lookin at the forums as we speak..im pretty sure u found them somewhere...one of the screenshots shows the most solacero ever had on, and it has been that way for a long time..

QuoteIs there any way you can prove they wern't the original screenies? Or can you only say the obviously faked ones were the first ones you saw?

no, i can only testify and hope that yusifer and final may have agree also..

QuoteThe first image shows a normal player in @hide. How does that happen? Oh yeah theres a GM command called #hide which hides other players. As you can see, that player is clearly not cloaked (no cloaking icon) yet alive at full hp with no character showing. Hmmm?

the image is too obscure to tell whether or not the person is still there...he may be rising up from death, and took the image as potential blackmail towards dawn..
if he was alive.."mercy has been shown" would not be noted..it is only noticed to ppl who are dead on the ground..i also see something protruding from the screenshot if im not mistaken

QuoteThe second image was Dawn conspiring with the same player(s) from the first image, to wipe. I was a wonderful GM! Ask anyone. ^_^

how about felciity in ur own proof u posted..she obviously didnt think u were a good gm if she felt the need that u need to be watch..for all we know, u sparked the corruption makin her request a wipe..just a guess but i dont know

QuoteAs for the photobucket header, there is none. I have all shown by default.

yC, can u please demand that the guy check his header from photobucket..and mayb get some proof that dawn logged on the photobucket also? just somethin to look at..

Quote from: duane14 on Jan 20, 2010, 11:36 PM
dont assume such a thing...i have not pointed that out because i thought the posts by ppl on that page by orange, ilyjuy, the man himself, lanryte, and even trinity, mitsuo's friend...explain themselves..

That one image shows Dawns sleipnir in that guys equipment. Back then when we were all loyal to Dawn before figuring out what he was really like, we argued just like you do against anything that proved corruption. Though really...Dawn did give it out.

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dont tell me ur going to read the 1st or last post of the topic and not read the stuff in the middle..oh wait, thats what u pretty much have been doin with my posts.. ><

I've read your posts but it frustrates me that you cant seem to use any bit of common sense with the littlest things that I just tend to ignore quite a bit of it. I dont want this to turn into a flame war, I just wish you would think a bit about reasonings for some of the things you argue I "lie" about.

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thats what im still tryin to figure out, lookin at the forums as we speak..im pretty sure u found them somewhere...one of the screenshots shows the most solacero ever had on, and it has been that way for a long time..

Goodluck haha, I have no idea, nor have I looked. It's funny how you're pretty sure on something that I'm certain isnt true. Thats what I mentioned up there ^^^^^ about you just simply believing im lieing instead of questioning that it might be true.

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no, i can only testify and hope that yusifer and final may have agree also..

Except yusifer seems to believe that I wouldn't be so stupid to post ridiculously obviously faked screenshots, and that the ones I say I posted were indeed the true first ones, because well...that just makes more sense.

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the image is too obscure to tell whether or not the person is still there...he may be rising up from death, and took the image as potential blackmail towards dawn..
if he was alive.."mercy has been shown" would not be noted..it is only noticed to ppl who are dead on the ground..i also see something protruding from the screenshot if im not mistaken

The mercy has been shown appears overhead as a player instantly ressurects. They're alive when they get that message. Look closer, theres a Moonlight flower (with ninetails spawns) and Garm with its babies. The player is in #hide. It's obvious.

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how about felciity in ur own proof u posted..she obviously didnt think u were a good gm if she felt the need that u need to be watch..for all we know, u sparked the corruption makin her request a wipe..just a guess but i dont know

Felicity was my ex girlfriend from a year or so before that moment, take a guess how she would feel about me. lmfao
They wanted me "watched" because I didn't put up with s*** and they all trolled the forums (do your research, it's all there) and treated staff like crap. They didn't like that I'd mute them for harassing people.

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yC, can u please demand that the guy check his header from photobucket..and mayb get some proof that dawn logged on the photobucket also? just somethin to look at..

Dude what part of there is no header dont you get? Would you like me to make a video recording of my desktop as I log into the account and open the email? I'll gladly do that if you want.

QuoteThat one image shows Dawns sleipnir in that guys equipment. Back then when we were all loyal to Dawn before figuring out what he was really like, we argued just like you do against anything that proved corruption. Though really...Dawn did give it out.

Quotehttp://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8633.0.html
Go. Tell me thats not hard evidence of corruption.

Dawn gave his account out to trusted members and I'm almost certain he got the items himself, Dawns fault yes, but Dawn didn't directly do that.

I caught him +10'ing a book of the dead with Dawn's account while Dawn was offline.

Greed was trusted with his account, went corrupt just like you have GM's doing all the time, and then was kicked.

I don't see servers getting shamed because they have a GM go corrupt, or there would be a lot more on hall of shame.

He gave out his account to help the server(He gave it to me because he had to go and a GM was acting a bit stupid and was known to #dropall someone before)
He also wanted there to be someone there to stop anything out of control without wanting any more GM's, so instead he had people go under his name.
If you think that's bad, then you should think having GM's other then the admin on a server is bad.

before anyone asks why I'm defending Dawn on this when I agreed to him being an donkey, it's called unbias

Duane...

QuoteyC, can u please demand that the guy check his header from photobucket..and mayb get some proof that dawn logged on the photobucket also? just somethin to look at..

Quote from: Billy's screenshot

You can see, in red, the header of the email.

EDIT:
Oh, Billy, if you want to upload big pictures, you should use tinypic. Photobucket likes to re-size images <_<

Quote from: Orange on Jan 21, 2010, 12:10 AM

QuoteThat one image shows Dawns sleipnir in that guys equipment. Back then when we were all loyal to Dawn before figuring out what he was really like, we argued just like you do against anything that proved corruption. Though really...Dawn did give it out.

Quotehttp://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,8633.0.html
Go. Tell me thats not hard evidence of corruption.

Dawn gave his account out to trusted members and I'm almost certain he got the items himself, Dawns fault yes, but Dawn didn't directly do that.

I caught him +10'ing a book of the dead with Dawn's account while Dawn was offline.

Greed was trusted with his account, went corrupt just like you have GM's doing all the time, and then was kicked.

I don't see servers getting shamed because they have a GM go corrupt, or there would be a lot more on hall of shame.

I didn't post this thread, nor the one before it, and I certainly dont wish to shame a server I helped build. My sole intention is to warn people about Dawn having access to their info and using it at his will. ;x If thats not something wrong, using info from a server to maliciously hack and destroy other people's accounts away from solace after they've quit, then I submit.

Wait, wait, Dawn gave out his account to "people he trusted"?

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Quote from: Tom~ on Jan 21, 2010, 12:20 AM
Wait, wait, Dawn gave out his account to "people he trusted"?

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He gave out his account to help the server(He gave it to me because he had to go and a GM was acting a bit stupid and was known to #dropall someone before)
He also wanted there to be someone there to stop anything out of control without wanting any more GM's, so instead he had people go under his name.

Yes, though it turned into a disaster with Greed.

Ok. so apparently I talked to some of the people that were added to my MSN.  Most were from Solace.  There was one person though that was not from Solace.  Hell she(I think she) never even heard of solace.  So right there I thought "well damn there goes my theory everyone was from Solace"  BUT turn out she(I'll just call her a she) played on UnitedRO.  What does that have to do with anything?  I'll tell you.  

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php?topic=5610.0

Lemme quote that for you.

Quote from: Rekenber on Jul 17, 2008, 04:31 PM
The server owner is the same as FantasiaRO and UnitedRO, before I move on.

Quote[23:20] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: Maybe about two years ago, HE DID put this email address on his forums along with many others
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: Asking his users to add and 'encourage' those users xP
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: To play on his server.
[23:21] Mitsuo: yeah that's what he did
[23:21] Mitsuo: post on the thread stating this so they know he's been up to it for a while
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: So around that time I kept getting invites with people saying 'Come back to UnitedRO~' or something lol

The same thing that happened to her happened to me about....3 months after I left.  He had people mainly GMs he recently hired to spam other people to come back.

Also thanks to the same chat I found out Dawn had the name "Steven Yu" as his MSN name(confirmation here: http://i45.tinypic.com/ra70i9.jpg).  Chances are that is his real name.

Just in case it is I did a quick search around.  First at whitepages.
(Image removed for privacy)
I found one that seemed to be the most suitable match to him which would place him in San Jose like the zip code would be.

(image removed for privacy)
this is just a google earth image of the house that I believe would be his house or where he lives.  Currently searching for a way to get a phone number to confirm a Steven Yu lives there. =/

Edit: if you wanna see a bigger picture from photobucket just right click and choose view image.

Quote from: Mitsuo2 on Jan 21, 2010, 12:57 AM
Ok. so apparently I talked to some of the people that were added to my MSN.  Most were from Solace.  There was one person though that was not from Solace.  Hell she(I think she) never even heard of solace.  So right there I thought "well damn there goes my theory everyone was from Solace"  BUT turn out she(I'll just call her a she) played on UnitedRO.  What does that have to do with anything?  I'll tell you.  

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php?topic=5610.0

Lemme quote that for you.

Quote from: Rekenber on Jul 17, 2008, 04:31 PM
The server owner is the same as FantasiaRO and UnitedRO, before I move on.

Quote[23:20] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: Maybe about two years ago, HE DID put this email address on his forums along with many others
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: Asking his users to add and 'encourage' those users xP
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: To play on his server.
[23:21] Mitsuo: yeah that's what he did
[23:21] Mitsuo: post on the thread stating this so they know he's been up to it for a while
[23:21] Aisuku Kyolux - Luxion: So around that time I kept getting invites with people saying 'Come back to UnitedRO~' or something lol

The same thing that happened to her happened to me about....3 months after I left.  He had people mainly GMs he recently hired to spam other people to come back.

Also thanks to the same chat I found out Dawn had the name "Steven Yu" as his MSN name(confirmation here: http://i45.tinypic.com/ra70i9.jpg).  Chances are that is his real name.

Just in case it is I did a quick search around.  First at whitepages.
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I found one that seemed to be the most suitable match to him which would place him in San Jose like the zip code would be.

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this is just a google earth image of the house that I believe would be his house or where he lives.  Currently searching for a way to get a phone number to confirm a Steven Yu lives there. =/

Edit: if you wanna see a bigger picture from photobucket just right click and choose view image.

NOTE: Final does not mean this to be racist.  Please disregard this as anything to do with nationality.

Oh yey..an asian person in California <_< That's totally new to me.  I mean..there just can't be..idk like...more than 100 Steven Yu's.. Especially since Steven is a common name and Yu is not that far off common <_<

Yeah I understand, I never said that WAS him.  I just did a preliminary search for Steven Yu in the area code 95132 and came up with 10 results.  You can see that in my 2nd picture in that post(first displayed).  This is why I was hunting for a phone number to call and confirm or deny(probably this) that the Steven Yu there is the one we are after.

Hello. I may be here late, but I was told about this from a now aquatance.  I have no proof except for my memories but I must say that Dawn has never once been too kind.

I used to be a GM to his server, called Golden Wolf. I did love playing as a GM, helping players and all. But I also had a life. I would spend some of my time working in school and real life matters, and multitask talking to my boyfriend. Dawn disliked this and told me he wanted all of my time on the server. I was unable to do this, I still spent a couple hours for school, so he ended up getting Angry and firing me because I had a life. I was around when I learned he gave his account out, but I never knew he was doing all that.

In simple Dawn is a very bad guy, basically addicted to his server and being so pissy ( pardon the language ) about it being perfect he usually fires many gms at once and bans people.

I also saw its off RMS, I thank whoever did that

Mitsuo, please, do not post personal information on this forum.

As Final said, that person might not be the guy you're looking for.
And, posting personal information is not allowed.

ah, I see.  Yeah that would be bad.  I removed the images...though their still up in Final's quote. =X

This is still going, and it's just a bunch of lunacy. Whether it's been Dawn or not doesn't matter, SolaceRO is right now one of those servers that shouldn't be listed because of the hazards. If it's not him, then why did I get a letter in his handwriting, that I've seen before? If it's not him, then who has access to his account now that he changes his password every two weeks to prevent people from accessing sensitive material? If it's not him, why did he put me in charge of the server only to never give me the passwords and logins even after myself and Riccio, amongst many others, asked him to do so?

It's not plausible that this wouldn't be him. Especially since he went in himself and edited the Flower Rings to make him and his brother close to invincible Soul Linkers, and his brother had a Combat Knife I'm 98% sure was spawned on Dawn's GM account.

But my point isn't to bash anyone at this point, my point is simply to say this: Put everyone out of the way and take Solace off the listings at the very least. He deserves at least that. Screwing with people's MSNs, giving people's e-mails out, sending me a letter, putting the blame on everyone who worked with him, editing Mitsuo's post possibly...If that's NOT enough to put him in the hall of shame, it should be enough to remove the listing. I don't see why you're all so hesitant.

At the same time though, I can't see why we're all so persistent. Dawn's a pompous donkey, whatever. Time to move on and get over it.

well it's be been about 2 days and no word from yC or anyone on the blacklisting/HoS of Dawn?

Atleast Solace has been delisted. Cant help but laugh at how people are now stating what I had since I got banned. Kinda ironic now oh well, guess I will never get dawn admitting that I was right. I heard he still hates me :3

I agree on addin him to a HoS or somethins though n_n;

Definatly sounds like a GM Hall of Shame member. This topic is perfect backup for the case.

I support Dawn being added.

As I am getting continuous pms from Mitsuo2 pushing RMS to take action as to ban the listing & put the GM in HoS, I'll make a reply here as well in additional to all the replies in PMs to Mitsuo2.

First, corruption isn't a crime on the server listing.  The server listing is bounded by the Basic Server Requirements and Terms of Services.  The reason I gave attention to this case is because Mitsuo2 claimed his RMS forum account was hacked by the owner of a server that is currently listed on the site.  That is not a direct violation to both the BSR or the ToS but an unacceptable action done to the RMS community that would show the server is not trustworthy and thus deserve an investigation + further action if needed.

That being said, that mean a server listing cannot be delisted because the server owner hacks someone's MSN.  That's right.  Who know how many other server owners hack someone's bank / myspace / facebook / investment / wow account etc.  If it's not in the ToS and it's not related to RMS, we are not going to take action just because we can.  There are other respective departments in both the virtual world and the real world that would serve justice.

The description of the Hall of Shame seciton says: "This section is for reporting doubtful practice done by players or servers that is not in direct violation to our terms. Which means we can do nothing about it but you are free to let people know about the story."

So do not assume we will take action on things that are not related to RMS at all.

As for the Hall of Shame candidate, I simply don't add people there myself.  Relic & Xarale will be the judge.

Up until now, with information presented from both sides.  We fail to see sufficient evident that would allow us to go with any sides. 

Fact: Solace RO's webserver have an open proxy script running for months in which Mitsuo was evidently aware of it at the time when it was presented to him.
(http://forum.solacero.net/index.php?topic=1613.0 -- March 2009)

Side A: Mitsuo said he forgot the existence of it after these many months.
Side B: No we didn't use it to hack Mitsuo.

We don't favor any sides so that cancels out.  Not going to believe any of that except the fact presented.  Anyone could have used the proxy script that mean anyone could be a suspect.

One could also question "Would I use a proxy on my own server to hack someone? there are plenty of proxies out there.  Why leave my server's IP for trace?". 

Well assumption should not be taken into account neither.  Read on.

Fact (presented):  600+ MSN contacts added to Mitsuo's MSN after he got it back.

Assumption A - Mitsuo: "I'm willing to bet every sing one of them is from Solace." 

Question Raised:  How does the 600+ contacts in your MSN show us that is related to the server owner.  We don't have a clue who those people are.  How can we tell who they are and if they are from Solace RO. 

Assumption B - Mitsuo: "Who else would care to only hack my RMS and MSN other than Dawn?  No one else possible has the motivation nor the resources to do it that would care if anyone else did care."  -- Your strong opinion against the server owner.  Not going to take into account.  All the "I know it's him ..." are opinions of your own that were not backed up with facts.

Taking a step back, the answer is the same.  It could be anybody that know your password did it.  Since you use the same set everywhere.  I am not going to assume you only played one RO server and used one RO forum.

With no further evident to support the case, nothing will be done.