Love Ragnarok Online

[Denny]

Screw the vendors ... the GMs broadcast every little thing as if local broadcast command does not exist > >; and spamming :O face is really important you know..the whole server must see it.
Played for 2 days..left on the 3rd

[Irrelevant]

Blue, I completely agree with you. Unless Decent JJJ and whoever started this post claim to read minds, they have no right to make assumptions. As I said, I really would've expected better from a gobal moderator.

They're not assumptions; they're called logical iterations. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not hating on your server and, quite frankly, couldn't care less if they're boosting numbers with fake autovendors but, if you were not part of this server -which you are, makes your opinion kinda bias- and you saw this, wouldn't you find it suspicious?

I just ran a search on their CP for merchants. The count dropped to 37, that's 20 less vendors right there. Now, how is that a server with such an active economy that people just had to have up to 8 vendors up decreased over less than two weeks, dropping the vendor count by 20? Not to mention that the player count which decided to be off the list is now 128 instead of 59, which makes it all the more suspicious.

Again, not hating on the server, but as much as Scars and other people in this thread are making assumptions, so are you, and you're not wrong to do it. Believe what you will, we'll believe what we will.

Just one thing, calling people irrelevant and/or dumb -on so many levels, no less- is not going to get you anywhere getting a point across. You also straw-maned Scar's post.

[Guest]

the main idea behind the hall of shame is to:
"- Your report in this section is nothing more than to warn others about the practice of the server in discussion"

i think faking a player count is one of those practices =/
plus i hate tons and tons of venders as is XD so it really annoys me

It's pretty much a blatant grab at falsifying an online player count.

Definitely belongs here.

I literally lol'ed at this one, this makes you look so ignorant.... on so many levels...

your word against theirs, and i'm more prone to believe the numbers

@ JJJ - What I find most interesting is your utter lack of research into the server. Faking player count? Apparently people with multiple vendors are now considered either, gm's bent on increasing their server population by false means, or players cheating for the gm's. I mean seriously, this is coming from a gobal moderator, a flame from a moderator.... I feel moderators opinions should be unbiased, yours however, speaks harshly. "Plus I hate tons and tons of venders" This could, and probably has damaged the reputation of the server. I would've expected better from a moderator..

i think this goes better in the hall of shame =P

the main idea behind the hall of shame is to:
"- Your report in this section is nothing more than to warn others about the practice of the server in discussion"

i think faking a player count is one of those practices =/
plus i hate tons and tons of venders as is XD so it really annoys me

lol sorry thats hardly a flame, and its simple, i do not have to the time to research every server, so i just follow the facts, and the numbers provided were enough for it to be sent here

and so what? i do hate tons and tons of venders, it hardly changes a thing if those venders are legit or not i'd still hate them x3

Blue, I completely agree with you. Unless Decent JJJ and whoever started this post claim to read minds, they have no right to make assumptions. As I said, I really would've expected better from a gobal moderator.

lol i didn't start this post, i just moved it



and besides, you seem to be acting like you don't have a chance to defend your self, so instead of trying to make attacks on people why not go ahead and prove that its not true?
because thats kind of the point of this section too, because its always word against word

[Scars]

Hello.

@kitty

Few logics,

-My first post is ages ago, whatever it is now I don't know.

-People/characters with the same name that differs just by 1,2,3-so on a,b,c-so on or just a word difference in their name is considered by any normal human being to be the same person. Even you didn't dispute that.

-Usual number of vendors per person is about 1-3, and mostly just 1 in small servers. Rarely anyone vend more then that.

-Server that raise count or considered to raises count by vendors= considered to be not a competent server, or they wouldn't do that.

Now let me repeat my self,

Yes, you can say they all different people.
Yes, you can say they all legitimately vend with that many vendor each.
Yes, you can say mind my own business.

But NO, you can't stop my opinion/review/claim.

WHICH clearly MOST PEOPLE AGREED with otherwise the post won't be here.



No matter what you say now you can't change all my statements above.

If you really wasn't trying to raise post count by vendors, really its just too bad.

Life.

Thanks.

[Descent]

Oh to hell with it. Not even bothering.

Lovely V4P system you've got going there, for such a "wonderful server", they sure need incentives in place.

[Zone]

wtf is this even about, it seems Scars is saying one thing, then going against his initial post, then go back to support it and go against others who supported his initial post. Wtf???

[Guest]

my understanding of this topic is as follows:

a server had an odd amount of venders to players, so it was reported
the majority of people believed that it seemed suspicious
people posted, topic died
someone resurrected the topic
someone posted an angry reply to the topic

andddddd here we are?

[Cielte]

my understanding of this topic is as follows:

a server had an odd amount of venders to players, so it was reported
the majority of people believed that it seemed suspicious
people posted, topic died
someone resurrected the topic
someone posted an angry reply to the topic

andddddd here we are?

But... we're missing something! Are we not?!

I'm pretty sure this topic is finished. Unless somehow someone comes and starts moar shiz.

[Scars]

wtf is this even about, it seems Scars is saying one thing, then going against his initial post, then go back to support it and go against others who supported his initial post. Wtf???

-My first post claims they raise player count using vendor
-My 2nd post just mentions that you can no longer see whose online anymore from the cp
-My 3rd post basically a repeat of my first post plus adding a few logic since kitty denied they've been doing what my first post claims.

[Arienas]

Ok, i know this topic is from like 5 months ago, yes there were lots of merchants online during that time but were not planned by me or my team. I allow multi clienting in my server, then perhaps they made lots of vendors to take advantage of it? If this topic remains here for this reason then i would like somebody to check my server now & i'm sure you will find 100 to 150 plus legit players online at any given time. I would like this topic removed as soon as possible.

@JJJ
I've heard many great tales of your great moderating skills in the rms forum & please Mr/Miss, please judge this through your conscience and not through what others pointed out as evidence. What if somebody pointed out evidence that you are a corrupt Moderator even though you are not, what would you feel? even police organizations investigate everything throughly.

@Squid
I didn't design the website, and i just knew when somebody from your team posted in my forums, I'm currently waiting for my new website design to complete & they will be gone. If you really want me to remove them now then i will do so immediately.

@Scars
Wow, what a fine & perfect network of servers you have, i wish you best of luck in your money making venture.


Sincerely,
Christina

Admin of Lovero

[Cielte]

Ok, i know this topic is from like 5 months ago, yes there were lots of merchants online during that time but were not planned by me or my team. I allow multi clienting in my server, then perhaps they made lots of vendors to take advantage of it? If this topic remains here for this reason then i would like somebody to check my server now & i'm sure you will find 100 to 150 plus legit players online at any given time. I would like this topic removed as soon as possible.

@JJJ
I've heard many great tales of your great moderating skills in the rms forum & please Mr/Miss, please judge this through your conscience and not through what others pointed out as evidence. What if somebody pointed out evidence that you are a corrupt Moderator even though you are not, what would you feel? even police organizations investigate everything throughly.

@Squid
I didn't design the website, and i just knew when somebody from your team posted in my forums, I'm currently waiting for my new website design to complete & they will be gone. If you really want me to remove them now then i will do so immediately.

@Scars
Wow, what a fine & perfect network of servers you have, i wish you best of luck in your money making venture.


Sincerely,
Christina

Admin of Lovero

Doubt it. Fact is, still happened whether or not it was planned by you.
Quick to assume, aren't we? Tsk tsk. Yours might as well be out on a money venture then too.

[Scars]

Ok, i know this topic is from like 5 months ago, yes there were lots of merchants online during that time but were not planned by me or my team. I allow multi clienting in my server, then perhaps they made lots of vendors to take advantage of it? If this topic remains here for this reason then i would like somebody to check my server now & i'm sure you will find 100 to 150 plus legit players online at any given time. I would like this topic removed as soon as possible.

Depends how it runs, does topic get removes once a server improves/change?

For all I know no, once a server is reported/placed somewhere it doesn't get remove because we simply doesn't keep track, though sometimes when server improves, some one will tell us.

Same question would be would all that report regarding a server being corrupted be removed once the owner say "we are no longer corrupted", the only difference in this case is "corrupted" is broad and here we talking about vendors, but why don't you bring the evident yourself? At the moment all we have is only your words.

I find it funny how your mind works in regard to your statement here,

@JJJ
I've heard many great tales of your great moderating skills in the rms forum & please Mr/Miss, please judge this through your conscience and not through what others pointed out as evidence. What if somebody pointed out evidence that you are a corrupt Moderator even though you are not, what would you feel? even police organizations investigate everything throughly.

It doesn't make sense, if some one found as so called corruption "evidence" that means they are corrupted, evidence is a big word, you really not using it correctly. I believe JJJ is not corrupted, therefore you will never find any evidence about JJJ being corrupted.

In regards to your server what I brought is yes, evidence. You can say you didn't planned it, but you can't deny the fact it happens.

@Scars
Wow, what a fine & perfect network of servers you have, i wish you best of luck in your money making venture.

Thanks.

[Descent]

@Scars
Wow, what a fine & perfect network of servers you have, i wish you best of luck in your money making venture.
Sincerely,
Christina
Admin of Lovero

Oh cool, another person bringing up "donations". Really doesn't matter, considering you tried to turn people giving you money into an "event".

[undercover]

Ok, i know this topic is from like 5 months ago, yes there were lots of merchants online during that time but were not planned by me or my team. I allow multi clienting in my server, then perhaps they made lots of vendors to take advantage of it?

Way to lie. I remember a post by you asking every player to make 5 merchants and autotrade. You offered a reward for this--iirc, it was some Bubble Gum and EXP Manuals

[Descent]

Ok, i know this topic is from like 5 months ago, yes there were lots of merchants online during that time but were not planned by me or my team. I allow multi clienting in my server, then perhaps they made lots of vendors to take advantage of it?

Way to lie. I remember a post by you asking every player to make 5 merchants and autotrade. You offered a reward for this--iirc, it was some Bubble Gum and EXP Manuals

Interestinnnnnnnnnnnng.

http://lovero-gaming.net/community/index.php?topic=507.0 - Christina, next time you run your mouth about money-making, I will gladly remind you of this thread, your own words, no less!