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Title: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 12:01 PM
http://aerogaming.org/


http://charmro.net
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout
Post by: Shinn on Jan 11, 2010, 12:39 PM
rofl
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 12:53 PM
And our patcher buttons

attachment 1 is AeRO's
attachment 2 is CharmRO's
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 11, 2010, 12:53 PM
I mean I have the freaking psp files for it and everything. Wow.
They didn't even do a good job copying the background!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 11, 2010, 01:04 PM
"Designed by Adam Network Edited by Adam"

Haha.

Should go in Hall of Shame, though, I think?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 11, 2010, 01:13 PM
The buttons.. the slide show... THE RULES!
/bzz

I mean the quote is "steal from the best and make it yours"...
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 11, 2010, 01:18 PM
Looks like a copy two-fer...jacked Charm's layout, and then took credit away from Meimiko(whose link is displayed at the bottom) and changed it to "Adam Network".
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 11, 2010, 01:27 PM
I heard their website designer is a 14 yr old pinoy.

Cool story bro.

"Designed by Adam Network" rofl.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 11, 2010, 01:53 PM
wow thats just sad -.-

shouldn't this be in the hall of shame?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 02:12 PM
I guess it should be in Hall Of Shame. My bad.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 11, 2010, 02:35 PM
Something else laughworthy.

Type aeRO's URL in your browser and watch the corner for the status indicator to say "Read charmro.net".

Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Pandora on Jan 11, 2010, 02:42 PM
Check the "Purchase" button from their menu too, it doesn't fit XD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 11, 2010, 03:12 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Jan 11, 2010, 02:35 PM
Something else laughworthy.

Type aeRO's URL in your browser and watch the corner for the status indicator to say "Read charmro.net".



Yeah, if you check the source, they are loading the lightbox script from CharmRO.

Would be funny if that script would magically change into something ... else :)

Like a loop of 100 alerts, or something ;)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Ravi on Jan 11, 2010, 03:13 PM
They say the most valid form of admiration is imitation.
A pinoy you say? Why does that not surprise me.

Oh Luna, you can see where they tried to cut images out as well. Real shoddy job. Although, I really want to see what they have to say about it.
I have the hole lined up, I bet it gets deeper.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 04:31 PM
They're website doesnt work anymore. :O

Edit: My friend says it works for her. :<

2nd Edit: They banned my IP. I can see it with a proxy.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 11, 2010, 04:44 PM
Quote from: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 04:31 PM
They're website doesnt work anymore. :O

Edit: My friend says it works for her. :<

it works for me too o.o
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 11, 2010, 04:56 PM
So how about that Javascript ;)

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://charmro.net/lightbox/scriptaculous.js?load=effects"></script>

I'd say make a copy of the file and rename the one your server uses to that. Then a simple JS replacement will do the trick :)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 05:00 PM
I sent them an email.

About the lightbox, I told Lex to look into it, for I should not mess with webcode for everyone's safety...LOL

Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 11, 2010, 05:21 PM
Well, look at it from the bright side. These kind of servers don't last longer than a few months.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 05:30 PM
And they deleted my new post on their forums.


Wow....
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 11, 2010, 05:54 PM
You should let that JS redirect to charmro ;)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: yC on Jan 11, 2010, 06:14 PM
i would move this to HoS after i see what you mean but it redirects me to http://aerogaming.on.nimp.org/ and then timedout.  Anyone experiencing the same?

Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 11, 2010, 06:25 PM
It redirects to that because I changed the javascript thing.


Now it redirects to charmro. n_n Thanks DeePee for the idea. :D
Posted on: Jan 11, 2010, 10:16 am
I have to go to work now. Be back in 242343hrs. ;)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 11, 2010, 06:38 PM
Lol this is amazing XD

To bad that they did that though..lol...But hey, at least you can have some fun with it lol

(RMS was getting boring anyways)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Xarale on Jan 11, 2010, 07:07 PM
Another fail server that's too lazy to make their own site.  I wonder, are they honestly dense enough to think no one will notice? or whether they just don't care.  Good to see the laugh is at their expense at the end though, that redirect idea is AWESOME.

Slightly off-topic, but did they really hire someone called GM Crap? (check second screenshot (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=8416&itv=6&url_sname=aeRO))
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Wikebine on Jan 11, 2010, 07:12 PM
Quote from: Xarale on Jan 11, 2010, 07:07 PMSlightly off-topic, but did they really hire someone called GM Crap? (check second screenshot (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=8416&itv=6&url_sname=aeRO))
it seems they did, thats epic. also, the base level max for advanced classes seems a bit low  ;D
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 11, 2010, 07:14 PM
I think just seeing that GMs name tells us how 'good' the server is XDDD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 11, 2010, 07:22 PM
This is where I'd ask RMS to help in in offering them... "the gift".

*Fires up proxy*

Anyone want to cause chaos and mayhem?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 11, 2010, 07:35 PM
Quote from: Xarale on Jan 11, 2010, 07:07 PMSlightly off-topic, but did they really hire someone called GM Crap? (check second screenshot (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=8416&itv=6&url_sname=aeRO))

hahahahaha xD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Xarale on Jan 11, 2010, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 11, 2010, 07:14 PM
I think just seeing that GMs name tells us how 'good' the server is XDDD
That's pretty much what I was thinking. lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 11, 2010, 08:28 PM
Quote from: Xarale on Jan 11, 2010, 07:07 PMSlightly off-topic,
Wait..No this is not slightly off topic..It's 100% on topic. Yes?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: orix1357 on Jan 11, 2010, 08:42 PM
I wonder why Luna's always the victim.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Orange on Jan 11, 2010, 09:03 PM
Epic win

This has to be the best case of stealing a layout I've ever seen.

And why are these always posted in server reports when every time people are told that it belongs in hall of shame >.>
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: blue_destiny on Jan 12, 2010, 12:35 AM
@Xarale

well, based on the server owner replying to Raze's review in RMS:

"Hi! We don't steal work from other servers. This looks like you give us a whole lie fail ratings."

I guess they do give a damn...?

@ Topic

i haven't seen the aerogaming site with the features Luna said was taken from her site, but i do find it suspicious that the server is extremely bland... this is what i mean:

in the picture, my cursor was in the 3rd "_" ... i cant make the cursor appear in the pic... sorry, but check the lower left hand of the window

why do i find it suspicious? I find that a website wouldn't be "put up" if it was THAT empty. No design whatsoever, and the buttons are hard to find... unless somehow the "source" of the pics and the like were hastily removed, or "wrong linked" (hey i made some HTML based websites in high school, so i have some idea how websites works). Also, would someone really put up a site that doesn't have images but has a BGM (Prontera BGM)? a bit weird right?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 01:06 AM
The website they stole from us is back online if anyone would like to see it!
I also spoke with the admin and server owner today, and he told me to "be considerate" and that he had paid Adam the "WEB DESIGNER WINKWINKNUDGENUDGE" $60 to put up that webpage!

We also have tons of screenies of their flubups, like leaving charmro in the source code and the rules and whatnot. =D
The suggestion to redirect the website (well, to mess with the script) was awesome, looks like Adam has found a way to steal WITHOUT hotlinking now! Yay!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Hi! I'm the owner of aeRO Gaming Ragnarok Online

I didn't mean to copy Charm-RO's website. Adam had offer me aeRO's template and I pay 60$.

I tried to contact Luna and send him a multiple message in my forum add me on my YM or MSN instead of posting her/his problem in forum which is about Charm-RO and its aeRO Forum rules that advertising RO isn't allowed. I don't get any invitation in my YM nor reply on my forum. He/She isn't IP banned in my forum we just had a webhost DNS problem connection cause him/her can't connect to aeRO Gaming site. However, I still tried to search how I can contact Charm-RO's staff and talk about the problem since Luna is like ignoring me and suddenly I found Lex staff of Charm-RO. I apologize and had discuss about the problem, I ask him to wait, and obviously I have to talk to Adam too but he was still offline till now. Unfortunately, they can't wait and trying to ruin my server via redirecting my site to their site. What I meant is we can talk about this in a right way but you start the mess with me.

Think in my situation too your not the only one who pay.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 01:22 AM
Cool, so I'm glad you're here! Your site was redirected about... ohhh... it's 10pm now? It was redirected about 6 and a half hours ago.

I'm not a him.

And Just because you paid some fradulent 14 year old for a stolen website does not make it your property.
I suggest you remove it, as we discussed, instead of getting him to fix it again so that you can have your stolen layout.

AND it has nothing to do with the CODING we paid for, you stole MY artwork that I spent MY time making.
Those buttons? Mine.
The Banner? Mine.
The scroll overs? Mine.
The slideshow? Mine and another GM's.

Adam network my fanny.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 01:28 AM
LOLLLLLL Them trying to ruin your server!? HAHAHAHAHAHHA Yo all, now this makes me laugh!

You stole their layout, you should have known what you were buying.  If you steal, they fight back.  If you can't bother to check the codding on the site and see the actual "CharmRO" words written there..then it's your fault.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Orange on Jan 12, 2010, 01:36 AM
Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Hi! I'm the owner of aeRO Gaming Ragnarok Online

I didn't mean to copy Charm-RO's website. Adam had offer me aeRO's template and I pay 60$.

I tried to contact Luna and send him a multiple message in my forum add me on my YM or MSN instead of posting her/his problem in forum which is about Charm-RO and its aeRO Forum rules that advertising RO isn't allowed. I don't get any invitation in my YM nor reply on my forum. He/She isn't IP banned in my forum we just had a webhost DNS problem connection cause him/her can't connect to aeRO Gaming site. However, I still tried to search how I can contact Charm-RO's staff and talk about the problem since Luna is like ignoring me and suddenly I found Lex staff of Charm-RO. I apologize and had discuss about the problem, I ask him to wait, and obviously I have to talk to Adam too but he was still offline till now. Unfortunately, they can't wait and trying to ruin my server via redirecting my site to their site. What I meant is we can talk about this in a right way but you start the mess with me.

Think in my situation too your not the only one who pay.

Advertising? oh god
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:36 AM
I have told you to wait because I have to talk to Adam too. and your glad redirecting my site to your site? its not funny its, You're being like Adam in a different way, stealing my players. I would be glad if you wait till I talk to Adam so that we can fix the problem.

I understood your side. How about mine?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: blue_destiny on Jan 12, 2010, 01:41 AM
@lex

haha yea I see both websites and I do think its pretty much the same as Charm's... except for the annoying BGM that probably can't be turned off (note: not pointing at aeRO Gaming... I really just find the BGM from RO to be annoying most of the time... and I don't really remember the last time I had the BGM of the game on because it was THAT long already)

@aerogaming

I see that you are trying your best to contact Charm-RO staff... ok that's good. But then why did (according to Luna) you (or someone from your staff) delete teh post in your forums regarding this? and Luna did say she was going offline / working so i'm surprised if she hasn't personally replied yet

also, your comment about "trying to ruin our (your) server" sounds a bit obnoxious and uncalled for. It's clear that your site and their site are almost exactly the same, no questions about that. Of course they'd get pissed off. And if Luna was telling the truth about you (or your staff) not replying and even deleting her posts, then her reaction is quite understandable, in my opinion. The way I see it, it's more: "Hey, this happened to us!!!" more than "I don't like aeRO gaming, so Imma do this..."


Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 01:43 AM
You obviously don't understand my side if your fraudulent images and coding are still on your webpage.
And if I may be frank, YOU messed up, not us. Why should we have to suffer because your couldn't find a decent person to do your website?
Being like Adam.. hmmm.. let me just grab this RMS banner up there and use it on MY forum! It's pretty, I like it... OH BUT WAIT, RMS's name is still on it, perhaps I should copy their background (poorly) and put CHARMRO on it, THEN stick it on our forum! Yes, this is a good idea.

You catch my drift?
Take my stuff down.
Dispute the charge on Paypal.
It's easy as that.


And to be honest, until today, I'd never even HEARD of AeRO, but I'm sorry I have now =/
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 12, 2010, 01:44 AM
Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:36 AM
I have told you to wait because I have to talk to Adam too. and your glad redirecting my site to your site? its not funny its, You're being like Adam in a different way, stealing my players. I would be glad if you wait till I talk to Adam so that we can fix the problem.

I understood your side. How about mine?

I dunno, but all she did was edit a file on her own server. It's your problem that you were hotlinking to it.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 01:44 AM
LOL! You want them to wait?  While you just hold onto THEIR site.  So they wait..while you keep using THEIR hard earned work?  Wow...Hey I think they should have waited...no wait...that would have been the stupidest thing to do.

And they are stealing your players?  Wow now that's interesting...Well since you stole their site..You know..that seems pretty fair.   Whatcha all think?

EDIT: +1 to DeePee XD Great point.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 01:48 AM
And... you didn't even email Luna or me back... how was it hard to contact us when WE emailed YOU?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 12, 2010, 02:06 AM
Quote from: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 01:28 AM
LOLLLLLL Them trying to ruin your server!? HAHAHAHAHAHHA Yo all, now this makes me laugh!

You stole their layout, you should have known what you were buying.  If you steal, they fight back.  If you can't bother to check the codding on the site and see the actual "CharmRO" words written there..then it's your fault.

Italicized in the hopes that maybe you'll get it. Eventually.

What's funny is that aerogaming is playing victim now. "Oh they're jacking our players" big deal, that'll teach you. Also, the fact that you "didn't know" that the layout is stolen is quite frankly...crap. One would assume that you are the one who gives the final go-ahead call when it comes to design, since an Admin would also mean root access, unless if you trust a 14 year old thief with your server's files.

Actually wait, I'm wrong...we can't "understand your side" because unlike you, most of us have something called integrity.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 02:14 AM
Hi, s***? I'm here to cut through your pack s*** of lies.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Hi! I'm the owner of aeRO Gaming Ragnarok Online
I didn't mean to copy Charm-RO's website. Adam had offer me aeRO's template and I pay 60$.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Screenshot of the Paypal transaction with blurred numbers is good enough.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I tried to contact Luna and send him a multiple message in my forum add me on my YM or MSN instead of posting her/his problem in forum which is about Charm-RO and its aeRO Forum rules that advertising RO isn't allowed.

Wait wait wait wait....

Advertising...ADVERTISING?!

You f*** JACKED her website.

Are you retarded?

If someone stole your <insert priceless possession here>, and drove off with it, would you stop at a red light?

No, you wouldn't.

Don't give us that s***.

Had you not deleted her topic, you might have had a chance to talk to her like you claim to do now.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I don't get any invitation in my YM nor reply on my forum. He/She isn't IP banned in my forum we just had a webhost DNS problem connection cause him/her can't connect to aeRO Gaming site.

ORLY?

You know, when they registered and instead of deleting their post, you could've simply, oh, I dunno, e-mailed the email that registered for the site so they could've at least gotten something?

And I find it VERY humorous that for some reason her IP is banned yet she can get to your site with a proxy.

Zing

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
However, I still tried to search how I can contact Charm-RO's staff and talk about the problem since Luna is like ignoring me and suddenly I found Lex staff of Charm-RO.

She's ignoring you because she gave you your pathetic chance to take it off your website.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I apologize and had discuss about the problem, I ask him to wait, and obviously I have to talk to Adam too but he was still offline till now.

What's there to talk to Adam about.

He.Stole.It.

File a charge back, remove the website from your webhost.

It's VERY, SIMPLE.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Unfortunately, they can't wait and trying to ruin my server via redirecting my site to their site. What I meant is we can talk about this in a right way but you start the mess with me.

Not their fault.

YOUR site was COPIED from theirs. It's SO easy to just pin prick and change one little thing which you guys rely on to screw with you.

And you deserve it for being thieving plonkers.

If the website had been properly coded, and had been on YOUR webhost, it wouldn't have ended up that way.

There's a wonderful example of this in my 2nd Greatest Drama story in my sig. I suggest you look at it some time.

Especially the part with the-

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Think in my situation too your not the only one who pay.

There's a reason god invented "Charge backs".
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Kyrien on Jan 12, 2010, 02:29 AM
I had to register simply to say Gorthex, you are my hero for using plonkers seamlessly in a sentence. Bloody brill, right there.

As to the issue of a chargeback, I believe oLex has already advised him to the validity of that route but he seemed to just turn a blind-eye when she said it (Through an MSN conversation, by the by, so the rubbish about not being able to contact anyone was long taken care of). To the best of my knowledge, no proof at all of any transaction having taken place with regards to aeRO and this... Adam... has been provided. It is, of course, abundantly interesting that an attempt to communicate through MSN only took place after a small change to the Javascript code hosted by CharmRO was changed and a certain other site was rendered useless.

I've already spoken with the GMs at Charm extensively and there is nothing I can say here that no one else hasn't already said. Just be aware, a deadline was given and further action will be taken by Charm unless aeRO removes the content on their site so let no one say fair warning, deserved or otherwise, was not given.. (No affiliation to Charm here, just helping them out because I've had experience in this).
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 02:58 AM
Well thank you for giving me props for using plonkers, when my stupidity meter breaks, weird insults tend to spout out. (In the 2nd Greatest Drama Story Ever, I called them a retarded cow)

1.) Email their webhost. Force them to lose whatever webhosting they have.
2.) Email their registrar: force them to lose the abilitiy to change their name-servers, forces them to rename and get a new domain
3.) For the lulz, keep that javascript thing up, it's more fun when their website is down than when it's up D:
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 03:28 AM
*falls down stairs*
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Relics on Jan 12, 2010, 03:52 AM
Giving aerogaming a few more days(hours) before adding him to the blacklist, because this is just absolute s*** on their part.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 12, 2010, 03:59 AM
Quote from: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 02:14 AM
Hi, s***? I'm here to cut through your pack s*** of lies.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Hi! I'm the owner of aeRO Gaming Ragnarok Online
I didn't mean to copy Charm-RO's website. Adam had offer me aeRO's template and I pay 60$.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Screenshot of the Paypal transaction with blurred numbers is good enough.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I tried to contact Luna and send him a multiple message in my forum add me on my YM or MSN instead of posting her/his problem in forum which is about Charm-RO and its aeRO Forum rules that advertising RO isn't allowed.

Wait wait wait wait....

Advertising...ADVERTISING?!

You f*** JACKED her website.

Are you retarded?

If someone stole your <insert priceless possession here>, and drove off with it, would you stop at a red light?

No, you wouldn't.

Don't give us that s***.

Had you not deleted her topic, you might have had a chance to talk to her like you claim to do now.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I don't get any invitation in my YM nor reply on my forum. He/She isn't IP banned in my forum we just had a webhost DNS problem connection cause him/her can't connect to aeRO Gaming site.

ORLY?

You know, when they registered and instead of deleting their post, you could've simply, oh, I dunno, e-mailed the email that registered for the site so they could've at least gotten something?

And I find it VERY humorous that for some reason her IP is banned yet she can get to your site with a proxy.

Zing

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
However, I still tried to search how I can contact Charm-RO's staff and talk about the problem since Luna is like ignoring me and suddenly I found Lex staff of Charm-RO.

She's ignoring you because she gave you your pathetic chance to take it off your website.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
I apologize and had discuss about the problem, I ask him to wait, and obviously I have to talk to Adam too but he was still offline till now.

What's there to talk to Adam about.

He.Stole.It.

File a charge back, remove the website from your webhost.

It's VERY, SIMPLE.

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Unfortunately, they can't wait and trying to ruin my server via redirecting my site to their site. What I meant is we can talk about this in a right way but you start the mess with me.

Not their fault.

YOUR site was COPIED from theirs. It's SO easy to just pin prick and change one little thing which you guys rely on to screw with you.

And you deserve it for being thieving plonkers.

If the website had been properly coded, and had been on YOUR webhost, it wouldn't have ended up that way.

There's a wonderful example of this in my 2nd Greatest Drama story in my sig. I suggest you look at it some time.

Especially the part with the-<br s*** d*** nipples[/spoiler]

Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Think in my situation too your not the only one who pay.

There's a reason god invented "Charge backs".


hahahahahahahahahahaha <3 u gorthex xD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Spre on Jan 12, 2010, 04:32 AM
I decided to be nice and just say


who cares? it happens. make a new site and be doen with it
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 05:08 AM
Quote from: Spre on Jan 12, 2010, 04:32 AM
I decided to be nice and just say


who cares? it happens. make a new site and be doen with it

*Steals server src files and deletes all copies you have*

Who cares? Sh*t happens, make a new server and be done with it.

That kind of thought process is not effective...your not empathizing, not that you have to, but it'd give you more weight if you said something that had some sort of sense, based on if you were in her shoes rather than just acting like a noob:

'tl:dr go for broke lol'

Those kind of comments don't contribute and just end up hurting you in the end.

Sidenote: I totally expected more of you.

So, any word from the air-heads over at the server?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Spre on Jan 12, 2010, 07:35 AM
news flash fella, Has happened to me.

what did I do? got over it made better s***.


I expect less of myself. I use to deal with losers like these everyday, I got tired of it. ignore and proceed with your business is how I do it when it happens  now, if it was aperfect world, everyone would respect everyone else' creations, but it isn;t and they don't it is something we have to deal with.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Mordred on Jan 12, 2010, 09:25 AM
Quote from: Spre on Jan 12, 2010, 07:35 AM
news flash fella, Has happened to me.

what did I do? got over it made better s***.


I expect less of myself. I use to deal with losers like these everyday, I got tired of it. ignore and proceed with your business is how I do it when it happens  now, if it was aperfect world, everyone would respect everyone else' creations, but it isn;t and they don't it is something we have to deal with.

That may be true, however, the layout was completed about two weeks ago. Maybe more. Having to change a layout every two weeks because someone jacked it isn't fair.

The website was obviously taken from Charm, I can see plenty of indications that it was besides the fact that the Purchase button is pathetically edited by someone who clearly doesn't know how to do things properly. The fact that the Javascript was hotlinked from CharmRO's site was an obvious indication that something was wrong and when a change was made, it was made on Charm's original file. By hotlinking, you were stealing bandwidth from another site. You say we were stealing 'players' through making an edit on our own file, but I think you'll find that bandwidth theft is a far more serious issue.

Aerogaming, at least have the courtesy to take down the site, get your charge back and find a 'web designer' with some integrity, which the person you 'hired' is clearly lacking in. You're the only one stealing in this situation... and stealing in more than one way.

Clean your act up.

(Also, I had to join to praise Gorthex's use of theiving plonker. +1 to you, sir.)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 01:11 PM
Sorry for my late response. I was at work, and then when I got home, my lovely internet wasn't working. I had the joy of reading this thread from my phone.

Lex says she has talked to Adrian (aero admin) on msn and she has chatlogs of where he refuses to take my layout down (or something like that).

I was IP banned from their website (I can see them now, since my IP changed from my internet being down, and now up, and unplugging & plugging of the router), there's no need to lie about that, and the only reason Adrian wants to talk to me now is because I threatened to contact his webhost in one of my posts on his forums.

Once Lex wakes up and sends the chatlogs over, I will post them for our amusement. :)
Posted on: Jan 12, 2010, 04:21 am
How obvious can it be?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 12, 2010, 01:39 PM
Doesn't seem like the Admin is going to cooperate and is using the "I paid for it, I would waste my money" defence. Nail the little fecker to the wall.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 12, 2010, 02:21 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Jan 12, 2010, 01:39 PM
Doesn't seem like the Admin is going to cooperate and is using the "I paid for it, I would waste my money" defence. Nail the little fecker to the wall.

I want to be just like you when I grow up.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: SCO on Jan 12, 2010, 02:28 PM
I'm a Charm player and a good friend of oLexo.  I do believe that aeROgaming, if they continue to abuse this by claiming they have the right to the design, should be punished by the nice people here at RMS.  Something like getting de-listed would be awesome.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 02:46 PM
Methinks they gonna steal my forum topics now? XD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 02:56 PM
Wait a minute now.
Dude is telling me to get over it and make some new crap?
Are you effing serious?
I do a new layout every month, now I should do TWO layouts per month cause some (instert horrible insult here) thinks it's okay to steal?
I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but if he's gonna pull a card, so will I.

He's stealing from GIRLS. TWO OF THEM. He's a big strong man (<.<) with at LEAST $60 (which can buy you a REALLY nice website), and he decided to steal from two females.
That speaks so highly of him, don't you think?

And no, I'm not going to go out of my way to redo MY STUFF just because it's on another freaking website. I have better things to do with my time.

AND, he had to steal the most thrown together one! That's what gets me! I did this layout in like .. what... an hour? He had to steal the one I spent the least amount of time on, then his li'l hairless 14 year old boy jacked it up on photoshop. It looks like crap.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 03:06 PM
As seen in the attachments.

I paid 5 dollars before she made the design & 25 dollars after she completed the design.
Memeiko made my web layout & did the coding. Lex edited the Layout. She does this about every month.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 12, 2010, 03:22 PM
Quote from: aerogaming on Jan 12, 2010, 01:18 AM
Hi! I'm the owner of aeRO Gaming Ragnarok Online

I didn't mean to copy Charm-RO's website. Adam had offer me aeRO's template and I pay 60$.

I tried to contact Luna and send him a multiple message in my forum add me on my YM or MSN instead of posting her/his problem in forum which is about Charm-RO and its aeRO Forum rules that advertising RO isn't allowed. I don't get any invitation in my YM nor reply on my forum. He/She isn't IP banned in my forum we just had a webhost DNS problem connection cause him/her can't connect to aeRO Gaming site. However, I still tried to search how I can contact Charm-RO's staff and talk about the problem since Luna is like ignoring me and suddenly I found Lex staff of Charm-RO. I apologize and had discuss about the problem, I ask him to wait, and obviously I have to talk to Adam too but he was still offline till now. Unfortunately, they can't wait and trying to ruin my server via redirecting my site to their site. What I meant is we can talk about this in a right way but you start the mess with me.

Think in my situation too your not the only one who pay.
Woah woah woah. Someone stole MY work and charged you for it? I put hours into that site. I would blow off someone stealing my work every now and then but stealing my work and getting paid for it pisses me off. Especially when they charged you twice as much as I charged Luna. I'm slightly annoyed and Luna has the right to be pissed off. I'm sorry Adam ripped you off and seemed like a legitimate designer but Luna is not at fault here. I understand if you didn't know that the website design belongs to CharmRO but it does. I have the original .PSD files and all the proof since I designed the original myself. Also redirecting your server to CharmRO is more than enough proof that it is stolen. The site was redirected because your site was linking to a script on CharmRO's website.

Here's the original design I did months ago. Submission Date:  October 20, 2009
http://crystal-artist.deviantart.com/art/CharmRO-Website-140969144
When I handed the .PSD file over to Luna I gave her full right to edit the design as she pleases but as you can see there's pieces from the original design that she kept.

Although I'm flattered that you like the website. An artist is extremely offended when their work is stolen or used without permission.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 03:25 PM
Luna, simply change your website's .js file to another name
and make a .js to replace it loading porn to replace all files on their site.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 03:31 PM

Thanks Memeiko for posting. :)


Quote from: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 03:25 PM
Luna, simply change your website's .js file to another name
and make a .js to replace it loading porn to replace all files on their site.

I did that yesterday zone, It redirected to my website, but then they deleted the script from their coding.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 03:42 PM
I'll tell you a method for proving the files are yours, but next time go with this.
http://www.loriswebs.com/stop-stolen-content.html
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 03:43 PM
In case you didn't have enough evidence already ...   O_o

(http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss286/LunarAtDreamer/RMS/aeROfail.jpg)

Hmm, I wonder what the screenshot is?

(http://aerogaming.org/images/screenCharmRO040.jpg)

Oh how fun, it's a CharmRO screenshot!

Screen-capped in case the dumbasses try to change it.

(http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss286/LunarAtDreamer/RMS/failfailfail.jpg)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Kyrien on Jan 12, 2010, 03:48 PM
I just about died laughing when I saw Gorthex's post.

Either way, they're obviously pulling s*** out of their arses.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 03:54 PM
Quote from: Kyrien on Jan 12, 2010, 03:48 PM
I just about died laughing when I saw Gorthex's post.

Either way, since they're obviously pulling s*** out of their arses, we're going ahead and file a DMCA takedown with their host.

Yup yup. We don't play games.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 12, 2010, 04:39 PM
Quote from: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 03:31 PM

Thanks Memeiko for posting. :)


Quote from: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 03:25 PM
Luna, simply change your website's .js file to another name
and make a .js to replace it loading porn to replace all files on their site.

I did that yesterday zone, It redirected to my website, but then they deleted the script from their coding.
Of course. :) I don't like to let theft slide so easily especially if it involves my work.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 04:51 PM
I just sent in my DMCA copyright infringement report to them, 1 minute later, they called me on the phone. I talked with them and they said they are forwarding it to the abuse administrator and he will contact me in a few minutes.


/ho
Posted on: Jan 12, 2010, 08:42 am
Their website is suspended. :)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Shiryu on Jan 12, 2010, 04:53 PM
It's so uneducated to have some guts and recruit in another server which is not yours. Plus flood with spams? of three guys? which is basically one of your staff or you and you know who you are.

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/untitled3.png)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9248/13719792.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/untited1.png)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1206/82875860.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/Untitled4.png)
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9230/19491485.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/Untitled-7.png)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4238/untited1.png

^ that answers why you we're banned in the forum.

"Luna= I was IP banned from their website (I can see them now, since my IP changed from my internet being down, and now up, and unplugging & plugging of the router)"

You need to talk to the owner calmly and magnify the situation before you act... dont show your american attitude. It is rude to tell you frankly. If the shoes we're on your foot the moderator in my server recruits on your forum and spam bad things what do you think would you feel? You are server owner you must know this things


Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 04:57 PM
Sorry, but none of those are me. The only ones that are me are Luna and Luna2.

I made Luna, then I was IP banned. Then I got a new IP and made Luna2, and then banned again. Please DO show the posts I made that you deleted. :)


Enjoy your site down.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 05:18 PM
So, those people were banned for basically telling the truth.
How the does that make you think that server looks?
Not only does it steal, but it practices censorship.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 05:20 PM
Actually, it wasn't anyone from staff =D
It was a few of our players that were PISSED OFF that their effing website was stolen by a man with no common sense.

You want to see MY american attitude?

http://aerogaming.org/

Suspended.

Bam.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 12, 2010, 05:22 PM
Quote from: Ajax on Jan 12, 2010, 04:53 PM
It's so uneducated to have some guts and recruit in another server which is not yours. Plus flood with spams? of three guys? which is basically one of your staff or you and you know who you are.

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/untitled3.png)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9248/13719792.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/untited1.png)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1206/82875860.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/Untitled4.png)
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9230/19491485.png
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mokong02_2008/Untitled-7.png)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4238/untited1.png

^ that answers why you we're banned in the forum.

"Luna= I was IP banned from their website (I can see them now, since my IP changed from my internet being down, and now up, and unplugging & plugging of the router)"

You need to talk to the owner calmly and magnify the situation before you act... dont show your american attitude. It is rude to tell you frankly. If the shoes we're on your foot the moderator in my server recruits on your forum and spam bad things what do you think would you feel? You are server owner you must know this things



Although I don't support spamming someone else's forum, I do believe that there was more than enough time to have the website layout and the other contents from CharmRO taken down. There's an overwhelming amount of proof that many things from your server were stolen from CharmRO. I'm not angry at the entire server or the GM team, but I am angry at whoever stole all of this work. It's really damaging to know that we work so hard to put things together only to have them stolen later on. Please consider hiring a more experienced and trustworthy team next time you put a server together. That way we won't have any more issues like this.

I do hope whoever stole the website and all of the other contents from CharmRO does pay you back all the money you paid them if any. I wish the best of luck to both servers now that this issue seems to be somewhat resolved.

Anyways I'm off to my last class for the day.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 12, 2010, 05:33 PM
Lol, "American attitude". Don't bring nationality into this, because it won't end well for you with what most people would say about you, bud.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 12, 2010, 05:38 PM
"american attitude"...really dude?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 05:47 PM
American attitude?
Well this adds onto the list, discrimination based on nationality.
This server looks like every RO player's dream!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 06:08 PM
"American attitude"?

Wow, does that mean I get to say that <insert race here> are lying, cheating, theiving, begging, cocky arrogant bastards who think they're better than everyone but their not?

Don't bring race into it kid, there's a reason why you live in a sac of s*** called <insert race's origin> and not in America.

And quit trying to distract from the point.

You stole s*** and you got caught.

Lucky I screen capped that picture eh?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 07:18 PM
http://ratemyserver.net/TOS_owner.html

Quote
# Your server accept player registration at the current time and in the foreseeable future
# Your server has a completed website and/or forum (just a link to download your client or display your sclientinfo is unacceptable)
# Your server homepage includes connection information, registration information and contact information such as a forum, a support section or an active IRC channel where your player can get help from

Can't make an account with _M, _F
No website or forum.
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=8416&itv=6&url_sname=aeRO
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 07:20 PM
American attitude?  I'll show you american attitude! How about we come to your country, invade it on the reasoning that you have nuclear weapons and kill as many of you as possibly!!  Now this will be fun.

P.S. I'm Canadian.  We come to your country...pretend to help..then start shooting.  Thank you for your time.

P.S.S.  Above statement was true XD

Cough morons who thinks stealing is ok deserve to be shot cough

Oh and I know its a late reply, Was in class..couldn't respond quickly enough XD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 07:24 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 07:20 PM
American attitude?  I'll show you american attitude! How about we come to your country, invade it on the reasoning that you have nuclear weapons and kill as many of you as possibly!!  Now this will be fun.

P.S. I'm Canadian.  We come to your country...pretend to help..then start shooting.  Thank you for your time.

P.S.S.  Above statement was true XD

Cough morons who thinks stealing is ok deserve to be shot cough

Oh and I know its a late reply, Was in class..couldn't respond quickly enough XD

Word: also may I point out that had you not stolen their website, your forums being raided wouldn't have occurred.

You started it, and they sure as hell finished it. :P
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 12, 2010, 07:27 PM
Quote from: GorthexTiger on Jan 12, 2010, 07:24 PM
Word: also may I point out that had you not stolen their website, your forums being raided wouldn't have occurred.

You started it, and they sure as hell finished it. :P
Ended with a bang! XD
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 12, 2010, 11:40 PM
Quote from: Luna~ on Jan 12, 2010, 07:18 PM
http://ratemyserver.net/TOS_owner.html

Quote
# Your server accept player registration at the current time and in the foreseeable future
# Your server has a completed website and/or forum (just a link to download your client or display your sclientinfo is unacceptable)
# Your server homepage includes connection information, registration information and contact information such as a forum, a support section or an active IRC channel where your player can get help from

Can't make an account with _M, _F
No website or forum.
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=8416&itv=6&url_sname=aeRO

Posted in server reports :)
Posted on: January 12, 2010, 19:37:27
Also, if you want to contact this Adam Networks.
eAthena Username: band1100 (http://www.eathena.ws/board/index.php?showuser=289419)

[don't post personal information other than your own]

Website is back online, I suggest submitting another DMCA report.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 12, 2010, 11:41 PM
Thank you for the information =D
One of my players FREAKED out and IMs me "THE WEBSITE IS BACK UP!!!" XD
Here's to hoping their host is 24/7 <.<
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: blue_destiny on Jan 13, 2010, 01:42 AM
*sigh* I really feel disappointed

aeRO (the one ran by Kinko) was my first ever private server. Had loads of fun in that server ...

now i see the name is being used by ... well... people with questionable ethics. And since that's the case I hesitate to even give this site a try...

as for Adam, hmm... could it be possible that the numbers aren't "legit" / real?

wait, their site is back? i thought something was done with it already?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 13, 2010, 01:49 AM
We're going to contact their webhost again and see what's up.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 02:18 AM
The phone numbers are real.
Another note, Adam is a staff member on AeRO.
Derp.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 02:36 AM
Quote from: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 02:18 AM
The phone numbers are real.
Another note, Adam is a staff member on AeRO.
Derp.
EW ARE YOU SERIOUS!? Tell that 'moron' to get in our argument already...oh wait..he's 14...right...14 year olds cry when yelled at by angry mobs...Hm..I don't blame him for being a coward then.

One sided arguments aren't fun...aeRO = 1 person  CharmRO = ....everyone...

Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 13, 2010, 02:46 AM
Well, this sure became interesting.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: yC on Jan 13, 2010, 03:01 AM
This forum don't encourage harassment of any kind to anybody.  Do not post personal information of anybody other than your own ( and only if you wish to be harassed).

If any form of harassment is generated from this forum, then we are not any better than those that are being reported in the Hall of Shame.

While I am at this, I found it hard to understand how Zone seems to be on the "Stealee"'s side when he once said:

Quote from: Zone on Aug 06, 2009, 11:55 PM
Honestly, it's common sense, once you release something on the internet, it's out there for good. You no longer have control of it.
If you don't like that, then don't release things on the internet.

On a suggestion topic to lock all future stolen case topics (http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,11094.0.html).  A stolen sprite, or a stolen website is the same thing that are unprotected on the internet.  

I am on neither side of the argument, I just felt my time was wasted arguing in that suggestion topic previously.

I pity the victims here, whoever that might be.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 03:39 AM
Oh yes, but you see, when someone acts the way this server has, I like to throw a wrench in it.
I've given Liin info on how to prove it is her content, and I love it when idiots put their information out on the internet.

You see, on the Aerogaming website, they have a little mailto:[email protected] for Adam Networks.
So, I googled [email protected] and lookie what Zoney found!
http://dotaph.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=180
Scroll down a bit. His signature has his cell number.

Down the results a bit more, you see something Mineski.
http://www.mineski.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1531
He puts all his information out in the open.
It's no longer a matter of me putting his private info out when all the information is out there in the open.
You can thank stupid kids and parents who allow them to access the internet, and wonderful search engines like google.

Also, on the note of the topic about all infringement posts being closed.
Notice this one is still open, my suggestion was not put in place, and so I get to have my fun in the topic.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 04:50 AM
Quote from: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 03:39 AM
Oh yes, but you see, when someone acts the way this server has, I like to throw a wrench in it.
I've given Liin info on how to prove it is her content, and I love it when idiots put their information out on the internet.

You see, on the Aerogaming website, they have a little mailto:[email protected] for Adam Networks.
So, I googled [email protected] and lookie what Zoney found!
http://dotaph.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=180
Scroll down a bit. His signature has his cell number.

Down the results a bit more, you see something Mineski.
http://www.mineski.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1531
He puts all his information out in the open.
It's no longer a matter of me putting his private info out when all the information is out there in the open.
You can thank stupid kids and parents who allow them to access the internet, and wonderful search engines like google.

Also, on the note of the topic about all infringement posts being closed.
Notice this one is still open, my suggestion was not put in place, and so I get to have my fun in the topic.

+1

*Applause*
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 13, 2010, 06:08 AM
Well it doesn't seem like they're going to remove it. I'll email Adam later if they don't remove the website in by this afternoon.

Luna if you like I can design a new website for you.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Clipse on Jan 13, 2010, 11:11 AM
... just so people know.. im one of the people who yes i did spam their forums a few times for bout 3 minutes, cos yes they did steal the website n then tried to get away with it...... but posting my f***ing IP address in a screenie? baaaaad idea. take it down or ull have someone else to mess with. (okie am not THAT bothered cos my IP changes daily...but still what happened to not posting other peoples info) thats thieves for ya. i aint bothered to admit i spammed forums... so why cant u admit ur theives... look its simple.... I....AM...A...THIEF..... say it with me now...
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 13, 2010, 11:13 AM
Their layout changed, haha. Victory.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 13, 2010, 12:19 PM
@Memeiko: Aw that's really nice of you, but you don't have to do that because of them. Lex is currently working on new images for our layout and if I ever did want a new design/coding, I would contact you & pay you again. n_n

Quote from: DeePee on Jan 13, 2010, 11:13 AM
Their layout changed, haha. Victory.

woot woot.

Thanks guys, hopefully it sticks this time =3
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 02:40 PM
They still have our favicon <.<
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 03:00 PM
They are really quite annoying lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Fruityla on Jan 13, 2010, 03:12 PM
Is it just me or does their "new layout" look jacked as well?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 13, 2010, 03:52 PM
Quote from: Fruityla on Jan 13, 2010, 03:12 PM
Is it just me or does their "new layout" look jacked as well?
To me only the flash banner does but you can't exactly steal anything done in flash and alter it.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 04:22 PM
To me it looks to nice to be put up so fast, also what's with the gravity interactive thing at the bottom?  Page doesn't have a copyright label at the bottom nor a who created title....most sites have those...tho it may just be normal.   
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Fruityla on Jan 13, 2010, 04:40 PM
I was looking at the blue header bar...thingies. They look like they were badly cut out of something >_>
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 13, 2010, 04:49 PM
I'm IP banned again. But I'ma use a proxy to see. :D
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: DeePee on Jan 13, 2010, 04:54 PM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 02:40 PM
They still have our favicon <.<

I only see the regular RO icon as the favicon /hmm
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 06:59 PM
I'm bored, So Im going to look at the source code of the site wooo.

First find : <strong><center>Login Server: <a href="http://aerogaming.org" target="_blank"><img src="http://status.blackout-gaming.net/status.php?p=9af62a86e281&e=c71b5f8631695c532bdd8d8a926acf96965534e9482bbced735f73163059c2f86d373e333072d6054f5eb516be7f1df5f5c1db6f5e7ac1be12d21c07b31ee255b766ef095215ec68e031eecb2fbfbb6520cbacb48ca410421ce0be130165abf7" alt="Powered by Adam Network Server Status Checker" border="0" /></a></center>

Stolen from blackout-gaming.net? XD

(I'll post more if I find anything else.)

EDIT:  This is more of personal preference than anything but, its badly written to me..lol doesn't even end with html...
Anyways from my quick look through...that was the only file I could find that was linked to another gaming site....looks like they Googled images as well...

Huh...When I looked at charm I saw a link similar to that of the one above.....I dun know now lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: SCO on Jan 13, 2010, 07:02 PM
I'm one of the ones that joined their forums, but I didn't post more than one thing, and that was a quote of Truth's post.  And I'm still on there, which is the funniest.


EDIT:  Final, that's epic.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zarsheiy on Jan 13, 2010, 07:23 PM
This is getting better and better, especially if they're stealing directly from Gravity like their page appears to be.  Can't wait to see that fallout.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 07:23 PM
Oh look it what Phoenix found!!!!

http://infinityro.frantech.ca/homepage/index.htm

@Final: Yeah, it was put up too fast...

I'm going to go ahead and contact their staff and then aerogaming.org's webhost, this is rediculous.

EDIT: Look's like for the most part the server is vacant, so, they're basically free to steal without reprimand but I'm still going to file the complaint against their webhost.

I nominate to delist their asses, the obviously don't get the f*** picture.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: SCO on Jan 13, 2010, 07:33 PM
Gorthex is the win.  +5
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: ShadowSappy on Jan 13, 2010, 07:49 PM
aeRO is getting more and more pathetic as it goes on, wonder who'll they take off of next come to think of it, and good job on the discovery of theft on the second site, but I would say they might've bought it from the owners, but from previous acts from stealing from CharmRO I am guessing buying isn't in the picture.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 08:00 PM
This is their American attitudes.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: SCO on Jan 13, 2010, 08:05 PM
Quote from: Zone on Jan 13, 2010, 08:00 PM
This is their American attitudes.

LOLZ!  +1 for Zone too!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 08:19 PM
Damn this is epic awesome fail XD

Hey just think, RMS has something interesting now. XD

Oh and nice find Gorthex, But how did you find that?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Xarale on Jan 13, 2010, 08:35 PM
LOL, this just keeps getting better.  I knew it seemed odd that they'd get up a new site so quickly, might've guessed they'd steal it from another server again.

I really hope the AeRO staff will come back to this thread, I can't wait to see what pathetic excuse they come up with this time.

@Gorthex - /agree with the delist idea.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 08:41 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 08:19 PM
Oh and nice find Gorthex, But how did you find that?

It's rather simple really, I found it...because I'm sexy. [/insidejoke]

This is like one of those plays in football, where it catches you and you're so caught up in the game from the excitement, you forget your pissing yourself.

@Xarale: My guess is that they "bought" another website from Adam.

Lol, this Adam kid deserves to be in the hall of shame by himself.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 08:48 PM
Quote from: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 08:41 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 08:19 PM
Oh and nice find Gorthex, But how did you find that?

It's rather simple really, I found it...because I'm sexy. [/insidejoke]

This is like one of those plays in football, where it catches you and you're so caught up in the game from the excitement, you forget your pissing yourself.

@Xarale: My guess is that they "bought" another website from Adam.

Lol, this Adam kid deserves to be in the hall of shame by himself.

Lol nuh your not sexy! As it has been proven..Xarale is! ahahhaha

I wonder how much he paid this time...60..70..80..100? Who knows. lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Temjin on Jan 13, 2010, 09:13 PM
This is so....wow.

Apparently "shame" isn't in their vocabulary.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Meimiko on Jan 13, 2010, 10:10 PM
Quote from: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 07:23 PM
Oh look it what Phoenix found!!!!

http://infinityro.frantech.ca/homepage/index.htm

@Final: Yeah, it was put up too fast...

I'm going to go ahead and contact their staff and then aerogaming.org's webhost, this is rediculous.

EDIT: Look's like for the most part the server is vacant, so, they're basically free to steal without reprimand but I'm still going to file the complaint against their webhost.

I nominate to delist their asses, the obviously don't get the f*** picture.
This is just ridiculous. It's really not the server or it's staff, it's just the 14 yr old that thinks he can get away with anything.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 10:18 PM
Quote from: Meimiko on Jan 13, 2010, 10:10 PM
This is just ridiculous. It's really not the server or it's staff, it's just the 14 yr old that thinks he can get away with anything.

Not necessarily...It could be either or.  Maybe they are all in on it...lol and we won't know for sure because they won't come on RMS anymore lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Khaine on Jan 13, 2010, 10:34 PM
well its was the staff's fault for trusting the boy to give them a second website after he gave them a stolen one
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 10:46 PM
Quote from: Khaine on Jan 13, 2010, 10:34 PM
well its also the staff trusting the boy to give them a second website after he gave them a stolen one

Lolololololol.

First time? Shame on me.
Second time? Shame on you.

I motion to de-list these f***. If they're so intent on stealing websites, who knows what else they're willing to do.

EDIT: THEY'RE HERE! THEY'RE READING THIS!!! Does that mean they have an excuse as to why they stole a second website?

*Giggles* I'm LOVING THIS!!

Side Note: This is like, the longest thread on RMS that hasn't gotten closed!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: blue_destiny on Jan 13, 2010, 10:48 PM
*facepalm*

excuse me while I message infinityRO about this...
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: kenjo on Jan 13, 2010, 10:48 PM
Now he stole the layout of my website, InfinityRO, he even didn't changed the Server News and Updates that I made there. I was surprised when i saw it, only a concerned player of my server reported it to me. InfinityRO has been down for a couple of months and no I didn't sell the site to him. But I think it isn't an excuse to steal someone's web layout even if the server is already shutdowned...
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 13, 2010, 10:49 PM
Quote from: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 08:41 PM
I found it...because I'm sexy. [/insidejoke]

So many things I could say to this........most of which would get me banned from this forum. ;D
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 10:50 PM
Lol Gorthex...Let's see how big we can get this without it closing! lol

Oh so they are reading this..hm...Taking all bets, Taking all bets..who expects a reply who expects a reply!?!

Ten dollars on no for me.

Anyone takers?


******
Thieves are thieves..they won't change..this is why we have jails.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 13, 2010, 11:06 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 10:50 PM
Thieves are thieves..they won't change..this is why we have jails.

I thought it was to have hawt sweaty man butt prison secs. :-\
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:07 PM
 
Quote from: Roane on Jan 13, 2010, 11:06 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 10:50 PM
Thieves are thieves..they won't change..this is why we have jails.

I thought it was to have hawt sweaty man butt prison secs. :-\

Ohhh there goes that American Attitude again!

And... who let them back on the internet? They all deserve spankings.
Did someone call that child's parents yet?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 11:08 PM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 13, 2010, 11:06 PM
Quote from: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 10:50 PM
Thieves are thieves..they won't change..this is why we have jails.

I thought it was to have hawt sweaty man butt prison secs. :-\
No no no no, that's what we force people to do in jails because of what they have done out of the jail.  Of course it isn't optional and if any person in the jail disagrees to it, they are violently 'forced' to do it.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 13, 2010, 11:13 PM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:07 PM
Ohhh there goes that American Attitude again!

Dear Dumbass,
I am not American.
                 Love,
                       Roane

Unless you mean something else....I'M SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW!  :'(
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
I'm not a dumbass, and I was only kidding.
*sulks*

Well, I mean, I could be DUMB, but certainly not a dumbass.
Mostly I just fail a little.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 13, 2010, 11:36 PM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
I'm not a dumbass, and I was only kidding.
*sulks*

Well, I mean, I could be DUMB, but certainly not a dumbass.
Mostly I just fail a little.
A little? sure XD

Lets get back on topic or they might close our lil topic /sob ... No one wants that!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: ShadowSappy on Jan 13, 2010, 11:43 PM
-cough- Yeah we wouldn't so allow me to get us back on topic.

As Kenjo said, maybe they thought they were in the open from taking a closed RO's site(Maybe mis-read) but still, theft is theft, but these kid owners really should just get their own or a free one, Less trouble for them and the community, well some of the community is getting epic luls from this topic and the fail of attempted theft they probably thought they'd get away with.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 13, 2010, 11:52 PM
*E-mail to their webhosting service*

Quote
To whomever this may concern:

Hello my name is Phoenix, I'm from ChosenRO. I am also a part of a community based forum, Ratemyserver.net, that is focused on a shared interest in a video game called Ragnarok Online.

Recently, members of this forum have discovered that the owner of aerogaming.org is stealing custom created content from other websites, and is claiming it as his own content and is using it for his own purposes.

This link is a thread on said forum, where the community was first alerted to them stealing from a very popular server, CharmRO.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,13177.0.html

If you read the thread from first page to last, you will see screenshots, as well as links to the original artist's website where the content was submitted, proving that the content was indeed, CharmRO's.

The thread goes back for about 2 days, but after the initial theft, their website was unavailable, and almost immediately, they had a new website up and running.

If you look at their current site, the buttons, layout, even some of the Javascript has been copied from this website.

http://infinityro.frantech.ca/homepage/index.htm

This has been their second website theft in under a week. I know some of the staff of CharmRO have also sent their concerns, and I would hope Verizon has a tough stance on image theft.

aerogaming.org is affecting our community in a negative light, as well as tarnishing the reputability of Verizon Business class services. I implore you to blacklist this person and to remove the stolen content from their website.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Phoenix of ChosenRO


Now we sit back...

And wait...
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: ShadowSappy on Jan 13, 2010, 11:56 PM
Good job Gorthex, Now we play the waiting game. <.< >.> O_O

Edit: Hopefully something is actually done permanently this time.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
They called me 1 minute after I sent the email, maybe they'll do the same for you. :)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: ShadowSappy on Jan 14, 2010, 12:02 AM
Quote from: Luna~ on Jan 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
They called me 1 minute after I sent the email, maybe they'll do the same for you. :)

Talk about good service. o0 .... and yeah hopefully they get rid of them.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 14, 2010, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Luna~ on Jan 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
They called me 1 minute after I sent the email, maybe they'll do the same for you. :)

There's a reason I didn't give them my phone number; I'm not the original artist so I can't technically claim that they were stolen from *me*.

However, I can point out that they WERE stolen from that website and have the PROOF to do so.

P.S. I'm mashing F5 on my e-mail window and scripting. W00t!

Also, in accordance to their ToS, I'm not an "authorized person" to act on behalf of InfinityRO, therefore, I can't technically, submit a DCMA claim against them, however, if I had, I would've already had them removed by now.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: blue_destiny on Jan 14, 2010, 12:04 AM
haha Gorthex, you should have included that the creator of the infinityRO website has also expressed their concern regarding this situation, but yea good job! I hope this gets some results

Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
FIRST OF ALL:

TO quote what yC has said. (read a few pages back)  emailing their webhost? I run webservices myself and you know what I will tell you upon an email of that caliber?

Please provide me with a copy of the copyright and trademark number Located on your paperwork from copyrighting your item, Untill then There will be no action taken against said person(s)


you need to prove something was copyrighted to you and stolenm Quite frankly I am sick of seeing this totally rediculous topic. Once you release something you have no control over it, you have no copyright (I DOUBT you paid the  few grand it costs to legally copyright something for a website layout)   Take up the offer of the person a few pages back and have a new layout made, Considering the cost of a layout you save a few  hundred bucks (the average cost of a professionaly designed layout is about 900 bucks)



SECONDLY, to the moron that posted "OMG THEY STOLE BLACKOUT ROS s*** NOW"

stfu, have you no brains? blackout ro freely has a server status checker they created for public use, this server merely uses that public function


DMCA claims only pertain to Copyrighted/trademarked/patented items Which this is not part of. Just  drop it.  this flame war topic is disgusting
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Nell on Jan 14, 2010, 12:22 AM
To think I played aeRO back in 2007...I donated to their site, and I was (practically) Bean and Slaad's right-hand man, toppling everyone we saw in Mayaan WoE, holding Hohenschwagu for 15 straight months.

I feel so dirty now.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 14, 2010, 12:47 AM
Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
FIRST OF ALL:

TO quote what yC has said. (read a few pages back)  emailing their webhost? I run webservices myself and you know what I will tell you upon an email of that caliber?

Please provide me with a copy of the copyright and trademark number Located on your paperwork from copyrighting your item, Untill then There will be no action taken against said person(s)
ORLY?

Well then, let me take a "professional" business's point of view on copy right infrigement.

http://www.verizonbusiness.com/terms/us/copyright/

Go ahead and read that...hmm, they don't need that information.

Are you seriously gonna fly to the copyright office and go look up the copyright information?

Doubt it.

Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
you need to prove something was copyrighted to you and stolen[m]

Well that's hard.

Read back plz. CharmRO's website on DeviantArt, before aerogaming was even alive.

Here's more about there copyright policy:   
http://about.deviantart.com/policy/copyright/

Oh, and here's a quote from their ToS about copyright infringement:

Quote
deviantART is, unless otherwise stated, the owner of all copyright and data rights in the Service and its contents. Individuals who have posted works to deviantART are either the copyright owners of the component parts of that work or are posting the work under license from a copyright owner or his or her agent or otherwise as permitted by law. You may not reproduce, distribute, publicly display or perform, or prepare derivative works based on any of the Content including any such works without the express, written consent of deviantART or the appropriate owner of copyright in such works. deviantART does not claim ownership rights in your works or other materials posted by you to deviantART (Your Content). You agree not to distribute any part of the Service other than Your Content in any medium other than as permitted in these Terms of Service or by use of functions on the Service provided by us. You agree not to alter or modify any part of the Service unless expressly permitted to do so by us or by use of functions on the Service provided by us.

Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
Quite frankly I am sick of seeing this totally rediculous topic. Once you release something you have no control over it, you have no copyright (I DOUBT you paid the  few grand it costs to legally copyright something for a website layout)   Take up the offer of the person a few pages back and have a new layout made, Considering the cost of a layout you save a few  hundred bucks (the average cost of a professionaly designed layout is about 900 bucks)

Oh ho ho, I'm detecting butt hurt, probably from this post:

Quote from: Spre on Jan 12, 2010, 07:35 AM
news flash fella, Has happened to me. In regards to his website being stolen

Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
SECONDLY, to the moron that posted "OMG THEY STOLE BLACKOUT ROS s*** NOW"
stfu, have you no brains? blackout ro freely has a server status checker they created for public use, this server merely uses that public function

Anyone could've told him that, glad  you flew off the handle, had a bad day and are trying to start a flame war. Tisk tisk.

Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
DMCA claims only pertain to Copyrighted/trademarked/patented items Which this is not part of. Just  drop it. 

Ah, contre`.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 ("DMCA") provides recourse for copyright owners who believe that their rights under U.S. copyright law have been infringed on the Internet.

Steps are as follows:
Quote
1. Signature of copyright owner or person authorized to act on behalf of the owner;
2. Identification of copyrighted work claimed to be infringed;
3. Identification of the material claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material;
4. Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party (address, phone number and, if available, email address);
5. A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
6. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive right allegedly being infringed.

No where in there does it say it needs a trademark or anything else, it says over the internet.

Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
this flame war topic is disgusting

You're the only one flaming.

Now get out! Get!
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 01:01 AM
there is no copyright none. DMCA Only  protects COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL, this topic reminds me of the salem witch trials. Once they complied you in turned  looked for more things to keep harassing and bashing them. And next there will be more and more and more.


just stfu and move on.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 14, 2010, 01:03 AM
Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
SECONDLY, to the moron that posted "OMG THEY STOLE BLACKOUT ROS s*** NOW"

stfu, have you no brains? blackout ro freely has a server status checker they created for public use, this server merely uses that public function
La de f*** da. f*** off jackass.  So what?  I didn't know that, oh well?  If you can see, only you cared.  No one else pointed it out.  And had it mattered, I know for a fact, one person would have.  

You want to flame?  Sure. I'm game.  Do what Gorthex said, Get out.

Also, see everything that Gorthex took the time to post compared to you? Yes well that is how to show something. Coming here and telling us you run a web service and know everything about it....well..that gets you no where...Must be one s*** service if you tell your customers that.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Luna~ on Jan 14, 2010, 01:04 AM
lolololololol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: GorthexTiger on Jan 14, 2010, 01:21 AM
Quote from: Spre on Jan 14, 2010, 01:01 AM
there is no copyright none. DMCA Only  protects COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL, this topic reminds me of the salem witch trials. Once they complied you in turned  looked for more things to keep harassing and bashing them. And next there will be more and more and more.


just stfu and move on.

Evidence plz.

My post clearly states you don't need a notice in order to submit a claim.

lol @ "stfu and move on"

You're apparently the one who's still hung up on it.

And if you're trollng, your doing it wrong.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: oLexo on Jan 14, 2010, 01:40 AM
Ugh. Nevermind.
Interested to see what happens to the email you sent so we can refer back to this in the future.
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
Mostly I just fail a little.

That's a gross understatement. But it's ok, I still love you so let's go have some hawt sweaty man prison butt secs, K?
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Wikebine on Jan 14, 2010, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
Mostly I just fail a little.

That's a gross understatement. But it's ok, I still love you so let's go have some hawt sweaty man prison butt secs, K?
NOW THIS TOPIC IS GETTING SOMEWHERE! ;D
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:42 AM
Quote from: Wikebine on Jan 14, 2010, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
Mostly I just fail a little.

That's a gross understatement. But it's ok, I still love you so let's go have some hawt sweaty man prison butt secs, K?
NOW THIS TOPIC IS GETTING SOMEWHERE! ;D

Yeah, fast on it's way to becoming a gay porn starring yours truly. ::)
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Final on Jan 14, 2010, 02:45 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:42 AM
Quote from: Wikebine on Jan 14, 2010, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
Mostly I just fail a little.

That's a gross understatement. But it's ok, I still love you so let's go have some hawt sweaty man prison butt secs, K?
NOW THIS TOPIC IS GETTING SOMEWHERE! ;D

Yeah, fast on it's way to becoming a gay porn starring yours truly. ::)
Lex is a girl last I checked...Hm..Much better Lol
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:47 AM
Quote from: Final on Jan 14, 2010, 02:45 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:42 AM
Quote from: Wikebine on Jan 14, 2010, 02:39 AM
Quote from: Roane on Jan 14, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: oLexo on Jan 13, 2010, 11:33 PM
Mostly I just fail a little.

That's a gross understatement. But it's ok, I still love you so let's go have some hawt sweaty man prison butt secs, K?
NOW THIS TOPIC IS GETTING SOMEWHERE! ;D

Yeah, fast on it's way to becoming a gay porn starring yours truly. ::)
Lex is a girl last I checked...Hm..Much better Lol

Ewwwww....DO NOT WANT! Way to kill my fantasy, Final.
Roffle, I made a pun.

Edit(s): Man, I had to edit this post 4 times in 20 seconds. God, note to self: Roane shouldn't post at 2 am with no sleep.  :-\
Title: Re: AeRO -stole my whole website layout and some content
Post by: yC on Jan 14, 2010, 03:16 AM
Okay now we get back to the sad copyright definition arguing circle.  What else haven't been brought up in this topic?

Just a note, for at least 2 years as far as I know blackout has the status checker available for server to display their status.  I am surprised none of you RMS-regulars/eA-regulars notice that or simply not posting that so to add to the laughter.  

After 10 pages of make fun of this, laughing at that they changed their website so the OP is no longer a victim.  The topic shall end here.  This had become one big harassment topic.  Every little thing about Aero have been dig up, laughed at and reported to various extend whenever possible.  This is now a 10 vs 1, one sided topic.  What do we know about Infinity RO?  From page 9 to 11 all the assumptions are negative.  That's enough.  Nobody know what's the story from the point the site changed to the Infinity RO layout.  2 pages of that discussion is more than enough.  

Time to go back to mind your old business, oh did anybody notice there was a devastating magnitude 7.0 earthquake hit Haiti on Tuesday?  I suggest reading the news more and if you have the ability please donate to help Haiti rebuild their country.