Instead of making multiple threads, I decided to clump all my questions together into one single thread. Also, I am asking in the context of 99/70 servers without imbalanced customs or donations.
First off, I would like to know which classes are able to solo in Bio3. Builds and equipments would be a great help.
Next, which classes are able to effectively solo the following MvPs : Gloom Under Night, Sniper Cecil, and Doppelganger?
Lastly, what is the best 1H weapon for CT? (save for CK and Ice Pick)
Solo as in? You always need to at least dualclient buffer to do something at Bio3. AFAIK SinX does best there, if you don't mind using up a lot of converters, EDP, and having buffer and linker on multiclient. Build is usual SB type with standard PvP equip.
Gloom-Sniper. Cecil-solo? You're kidding right? Doppel-melee class, WS or LK.
I'd say 3x zipper, high refine Mes. You're going for max atk, and those 210 you get from this can't be matched by any obtainable 1H weapon I think.
+10 Quad Zipper Orcish Axe?
Cecil cannot be solo-ed on an average 99/70, period.
Nah...120+3x 30 > 75+ 4x30.There's weapon perfection for size mods.
1. gfistgfistgfistgfistgfistgfistgfistgfistgfist no wait you cant do it
2. GUN : Sniper, Assassin Cross. SC : none. Doppel : WS, LK, Priest if you feel retro enough.
3. +10 Quad Dilligent Orcish Axe
orcish requires no link so constant high speed.
Assassin Cross can Solo in Bio 3, EDP LINK Enchant and you can one hit the High Priest and High Wizard for sure. The MVPs WS can do some damage GTB after buffing is a big help, though I kill most BIO 3 MVPs with Creator :S.
Gloom can be handled by High Wizard and Sniper Easily, Sniper Cecil - Creator though it takes like 30 something ADs, Dopple you can WS it down
You can look up alot of videos up on youtube, most of the high tier MvPs usually take a party to kill. n_n;
Are you sure Cecil MVP takes only 30 ADs? Not to mention Cecil will be healed by (her) mobs the times you're gone.
I really haven't heard someone solo-ing bio MVPs (true solo, no dual/triple client, no godly equips) on a 99/70 yet.
I more wonder HOW do you want to pull off those 30 ADs and survive/die and get back soon enough.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering too.
Hence "the times you're gone".
I said about, if you set Sniper Cecil up right, you can take about 35 AD bottles, with right build and all. Only took me all of 34 ADs bottles to kill it once :S.
Mind telling me gear and stats used?
38500 per AD is pretty 0_0, solo. Like, pure SOLO >_> Add to that the High Priest(s) spamming heal on Cecil...
I guess he did not read the requirements. 99/70, no godly/custom equip, no buffs. I ran a quick simulation and at these reqs, even with +10 int food I did not get AD damage higher than 27300.
I did read and I am going off of what I have seen done and done myself n_n; It only took about 30 something bottles to kill the Sniper after I had the set up on it. RAther if your able to reproduce it thats on you n_n;
Buffed up, with support legion behind your back...or maybe back before they cut down VIT of all non-ghost MvPs because of easy AD farming.
Otherwise, I don't see how it is possible. I simulated it with about 140 int, and yet, the damage was nowhere near 30k.
Now that you speak about it, I remember some time ago hearing about some homun glitch allowing easy farming of MvPs.
you can kill VR easy
asura it once
right devils? : D
I am going from what LLRO was like, possible there have been some changes. Im pretty sure you can 1fist Valk Ran working on that build(requires decent amount of legit buffs) at current you can kill it in two efists n_n;
What's the server customization? What you say is far out of normal 99/70 RO possiblities.
LLRO isnt custom at all, least into giving players power. It usually takes in the 30 Area to kill most of the bio mvps on parties and all down there n_n; LLRO should have the vit cuts and all, havent been on there in awhile, but I have seen Creators kill Sniper with only 40 bottles to their names n_n; and they didnt use all of them n_n;
I'd say a duo of Clown and Champ can solo anything down there. Soloing, not really possible i think. Unless you're a stacked champ with yggberries or a Linked Sinx hunting down High Wizards. Possibilities: GTB + Clown, Sacri Paladin, or anything and aim for the wizards.
As for MvPing, i'd go with a high wiz, prof, clown, and biochemist and isolate the mvp with icewall. Just spam bombs. Shouldn't take you more than 3 mins if all goes well. OR you can reflect kill them with a pally and soul linker.
pending how you ice wall, rude attack might trigger and there tele's the MVP
Either MvP can get to you or it triggers rude attack. A possibility is to put a tank in front of ice wall and keep him alive.
I know that you can achieve a godly amount of damage from Efist after 'numerous' buffs, (2mil is possible IIRC), but 38k per AD with no outside buffs, is just unbelievable on the current Sniper MVP (unless you homun glitch, w/e that is). Keep in mind that we're talking totally no customs (of any sort) here, even stuff like being able to memo in Bio3 counts toward the easy kill you've mentioned.
Please share with us what you did, or perhaps someone else would like to prove it possible? Look, I'm not so stuck up I just totally discount the possibility, I'm just curious as to how you managed it. dnc, tell me? please? ;D
Its okay if you dont believe it, also Efist can hit way over 3 mil n_n; Just ask players at LLRO(lightside legend or w.e its name is nowadays n_n;). Last I checked this was a dicussion and not a guide why provide what others do, if they want people to know they will go around posting it n_n; not my secret to tell.
What's wrong with providing info on How-to-do-something on a Discussion forum? We've been doing it for years >_>
And yes, I know how much damage efists can do.
Things I found reading the forums/donation page:
Dungeon Teleport Scrolls, Giant FlyWings,
MVP arenas with said MVP is available.
a lot of MVP cards are held by quite a number of players. Hmm..
people saying:
1)it's not a normal eA server (customized otherwise),
2)people posting that Satan Morroc mobs are bugged on this server and not at their original abilities.
I don't know what to think now :X
Nothing is wrong with providing info, but when I know how a group goes about killing MvPs I leave it for others to find out unless the ones I learned from tell that person or anything. ITs their secret to hand out sorry if I respect the fact and dont go around telling how they do it, go watch vids on youtube should be enough for ppl to learn n_n;
If you want to know thw how to, then go ask the ppl I learned it from n_n; though i think most of them stopped playing u_u
In my opinion, I wouldn't solo bio3 without a party. LOL, it's good exp but if you're planning on mvping the mvp...uh yeah. Self explanatory?
Sniper Cecil: I wouldn't be able to solo this b****. -__- LOL. Hell no. But here's a party tip: bragi, ice waller, a high priest to tank with pneuma (so it doesn't tele away), and a creator or anything you can kill this sniper cecil with. (;
Other than bio3 and beelz, I'm clueless (not really)
BTW, THIS ISN'T VICTOR @ devilsnevercry RIGHT? LOL. The whole 'n_n;' thing reminds me of him LOL.
&& i DOUBT it that you can 1 fist valk rang on LLRO but MAYBE two fist if the damage caps over 999,999 & lexing from a HP & portal efisting w/ gospel, and all thosee buffs(quote a friend). I don't know anyone who can 1 fist valk rang.
haha, it's ok dnc. I know how to do bio MVPs, I've done them a lot of times over the years, in fact. Though only with a small party. Just never 'solo-ed' them, because I am well aware of the limitations.
That's why I was skeptical when you said a 99/70 creator can truly solo Sniper MVP, see. n_n; If you guys were able to bypass these limitations, no matter whether it's because of server customisations, or one way or another, then, kudos ;D I do know of certain ways that would allow me to kill the Sniper alone, but I wouldn't consider them as "truly solo-ing", so.. yeah. (MVP arenas counted)
And I understand the part about not giving out info regarding tactics others have used; I myself am holding back a wealth of information I got from my ex-official server guildies.
@lee: you factored in tanee and gloom yet?
Quote from: fluidin on Aug 26, 2009, 02:44 AM
Are you sure Cecil MVP takes only 30 ADs? Not to mention Cecil will be healed by (her) mobs the times you're gone.
I really haven't heard someone solo-ing bio MVPs (true solo, no dual/triple client, no godly equips) on a 99/70 yet.
Ditto, I think this only happens on High rates.
Personally, Solo-ing a Bio3 MvP is hard work, You'll have to grind weeks for your gears, depending on the rates and stuff, you know the drill.
I don't think it's possible to truly solo them.