Poll
Question:
what kind of player would normally own the game?(PVP,MVP,WOE)vote & discuss^^
Option 1: donator
votes: 24
Option 2: normal player
votes: 13
hehe,i just made something new to talk about :D
feel free to post your opinion about the advantages/disadvntages
between normal player and donators ;D :-*
have fun posting!!! :) :P
~znro~
donators have the advantage... well probably...
If the Donation is not like 7 Tao Gunka's in one equip or something like it that can help the donators to fire more lazers than Dr.Octagonopus, then Players have a chance winning. It does not happen too much times, but the donators usually get too overconfident because of the equips, and die for normals a lot of times.
Buuuuuut, it depends heavily on class.
You can't get a Donator Gunslinger agaisn't a Champion and expect the gunslinger to win, because even with some donators gunslingers are obsolete(Again, if donators aren't strong enough).
The Advantages changes accordingly to the people and the items, so you can never know it.
Skill should > donates. Average player < donates.
Then again, if they have a god item/s along with custom all stats +10000...then yeah. Donators usually win only cause of their gear.
mainly it depends on what the items are
but over all a donator would get the advantage....
Donors get advantage.
Depends on the server and what the donation items are, obviously.
Quote from: Pandora on Jun 08, 2008, 09:55 PM
Depends on the server and what the donation items are, obviously.
absolutely right.i forgot to specify the server
but i am playing mid high rate that has only TGK,MP,GR
mvp cards to choose from.(donators only)
below are donator's items.
Lord Kaho's Horn
Tiger Mask
Alice Doll
Magic Eyes
Crescent Helm
Kabuki Mask
Silver Tiara
Note Headphone
Helm of Darkness
Captain's Hat
Custom LKH Flu Mask - STR + 5 , INT + 5 VIT + 10 , AGI + 10 LUK + 20 , MDEF + 10
Custom LKH Angel Wing - STR + 5 , INT + 5 VIT + 10 , AGI + 10 LUK + 20 , MDEF + 10
Custom LKH Crunchy Toast - STR + 5 , INT + 5 VIT + 10 , AGI + 10 LUK + 20 , MDEF + 10
if donators have 2-4 of these items especially the custom ones
im pretty sure they will become godly :o :D :o
:'(dang...can't wait to be a donator... :'(
~znro~
donators are god like non-donators are ***** like
Yeah, then with those items for sure donator are getting an edge, specially Lord Kaho's Horn and the Custom LKH. Doesn't mean they will be unbeatable, in many occasions skills (not the ones you invest points into, your personal skills at playing the game) will beat donation gears, but if you're up against a skillful donator with better gear than you're doomed XD
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Lawl /heh Balmung w/ slots maybe? :D
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
woaaaaaaaa...T_T
not all donators are genius... :'(
sometimes,average player can be really
a pain in the "A" coz of their skillful play...
like what they say,expect the unexpected ;D
do not underestimate the weak!
do not overestimate the pro! hehe,sorry coz i dont know
how to write those words in a sentence but i guess u know
what im tryin to say :D :-* piz^_^
~znro~
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
weee^^aris what is the rate of ur server?
max stats/job,lvl etc?
~znro~
huh i don't play there anymore. that was like 2 years ago.
I could see someone leaving a server where donates were that overpowered. can't say I'd want to stay. pvp would be beyond a joke if a NOVICE can kill you, never mind a skilled sinx or sniper with those gears.
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
its eiether your noob! or your just making up story (>.>)
It depends on the items that they give out if a player donates. I would've vote for normal players because some players knows that they're good enough to obtain donates later on. But a donator will still own early on.
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business.
lol
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
QuoteIf the donor gave 1million bucks for that, why would you reject the offer, lol. And also, you can leave the server running after that.
- Classified Chessmaster opinion
Chessmaster logic - defined as - sacrifice things, just for having a good cause.
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 13, 2008, 09:16 PM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
QuoteIf the donor gave 1million bucks for that, why would you reject the offer, lol. And also, you can leave the server running after that.
- Classified Chessmaster opinion
Chessmaster logic - defined as - sacrifice things, just for having a good cause.
yah, but you'll be sacrificing your server aswell /heh i mean the biggest donator gets to be an online God! those who can't donate will never achieve that state :'(
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 13, 2008, 09:16 PM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
QuoteIf the donor gave 1million bucks for that, why would you reject the offer, lol. And also, you can leave the server running after that.
- Classified Chessmaster opinion
Chessmaster logic - defined as - sacrifice things, just for having a good cause.
yah, but you'll be sacrificing your server aswell /heh i mean the biggest donator gets to be an online God! those who can't donate will never achieve that state :'(
Well, another good move I'll take is to talk to the donor, and explain the meaning of donation, and it's not to scare off the players, but to support the server. I'll make him aware that anything he do stupid will be his consequence - no playmate.
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 01:21 AM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 13, 2008, 09:16 PM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
QuoteIf the donor gave 1million bucks for that, why would you reject the offer, lol. And also, you can leave the server running after that.
- Classified Chessmaster opinion
Chessmaster logic - defined as - sacrifice things, just for having a good cause.
yah, but you'll be sacrificing your server aswell /heh i mean the biggest donator gets to be an online God! those who can't donate will never achieve that state :'(
Well, another good move I'll take is to talk to the donor, and explain the meaning of donation, and it's not to scare off the players, but to support the server. I'll make him aware that anything he do stupid will be his consequence - no playmate.
yah, tell the 1millbuck donator to hold his strength and dont kill the enemy with one swing... or else his going to kill his playmates literaly
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 01:28 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 01:21 AM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 01:16 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 13, 2008, 09:16 PM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jun 09, 2008, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
I got owned by a Novice in one hit on some HR with waaay over powered donations...
that's so stupid.
Noob (>.>)
Are you calling me a noob? Lol you should see the donation items. A novice soloing mvps and such easily with them... thats f*** up.
That's business. lol
business? /heh that's fcked up for a donation item
QuoteIf the donor gave 1million bucks for that, why would you reject the offer, lol. And also, you can leave the server running after that.
- Classified Chessmaster opinion
Chessmaster logic - defined as - sacrifice things, just for having a good cause.
yah, but you'll be sacrificing your server aswell /heh i mean the biggest donator gets to be an online God! those who can't donate will never achieve that state :'(
Well, another good move I'll take is to talk to the donor, and explain the meaning of donation, and it's not to scare off the players, but to support the server. I'll make him aware that anything he do stupid will be his consequence - no playmate.
yah, tell the 1millbuck donator to hold his strength and dont kill the enemy with one swing... or else his going to kill his playmates literaly
Not unlike other servers, they leave alone the donators to take donates as pvp advantage.
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:33 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Dx i know and thats what i hate about donations now a days.....
now donations are more about getting items then anything else >.>
they might as well change the name to "Buying items" Dx
EDIT: >.< lil typo
Quote from: Aris on Jun 09, 2008, 01:07 PM
huh i don't play there anymore. that was like 2 years ago.
oh ok sir :D
~znro~
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 02:35 AM
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:33 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Dx i know and thats what i hate about donations no a days.....
now donations are more about getting items then anything else >.>
they might as well change the name to "Buying items" Dx
True. +999999999999999999
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 02:37 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 02:35 AM
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:33 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Dx i know and thats what i hate about donations no a days.....
now donations are more about getting items then anything else >.>
they might as well change the name to "Buying items" Dx
True. +999999999999999999
sir hel wanna exchange karma? ;D
lol^^
(on the topic)
honestly im one of them^^
but a bit different coz i am a down to earth person :D
i will never change!never!im always be a nice person
and i wont let some kind of EVIL POWERS take over me^^
~znro~
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:53 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 02:37 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 02:35 AM
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:33 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Dx i know and thats what i hate about donations no a days.....
now donations are more about getting items then anything else >.>
they might as well change the name to "Buying items" Dx
True. +999999999999999999
sir hel wanna exchange karma? ;D
lol^^
(on the topic)
honestly im one of them^^
but a bit different coz i am a down to earth person :D
i will never change!never!im always be a nice person
and i wont let some kind of EVIL POWERS take over me^^
~znro~
Lol. Donation items can be used in beating Monsters though
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:53 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 02:37 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 02:35 AM
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 02:33 AM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
lol more reason for me to hate donation items >.<
i mean MOST servers only ask for donations to help pay for their server
and the items they give are only ment to be a thank you gift
but the problem only arises when the "thank you gift" is too powerful and gives someone an advantage over the other
uhmmmmm...
i think thats what "DONATIONS" is all about^^
most people donates not to help the server run
but to get those reward and have something to show off
to everybodt :D for me the whole "DONATION" thing
only turns people into a J.E.R.K :(
~znro~
Dx i know and thats what i hate about donations no a days.....
now donations are more about getting items then anything else >.>
they might as well change the name to "Buying items" Dx
True. +999999999999999999
sir hel wanna exchange karma? ;D
lol^^
(on the topic)
honestly im one of them^^
but a bit different coz i am a down to earth person :D
i will never change!never!im always be a nice person
and i wont let some kind of EVIL POWERS take over me^^
~znro~
The "Evil" in this forum is moderated as we speak...
/e5 he's not evil, one thing I don't like on him is he's spamming around.
Anyway, all in all
Ethical player/donators > donators/players
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 04:05 AM
/e5 he's not evil, one thing I don't like on him is he's spamming around.
Anyway, all in all
Ethical player/donators > donators/players
<<< is this for me? if it is... i dont spam sir...
if i did,pls pardon me...i did not intend to do that....
u can see that my posts are still on topic... :'(
and im not "HE" pls check my profile carefully... :D ;D :D
~znro~
Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 04:30 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 04:05 AM
/e5 he's not evil, one thing I don't like on him is he's spamming around.
Anyway, all in all
Ethical player/donators > donators/players
<<< is this for me? if it is... i dont spam sir...
if i did,pls pardon me...i did not intend to do that....
u can see that my posts are still on topic... :'(
and im not "HE" pls check my profile carefully... :D ;D :D
~znro~
It's not about you.
its not you :-X
anyhow... its a swift victory for the donators :-[ i guess people are more prone to donating
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 06:45 AM
its not you :-X
anyhow... its a swift victory for the donators :-[ i guess people are more prone to donating
Especially if it's strong AND cheap.
Haha...I've always wonder. Why not just change the word 'donate' to 'buy'.
But I guess there's something in the law stating that you can't gain profit for hosting RO, they changed the word 'buy' to 'donate'. Player's buy their items to lvl, hunt and PvP better. Only a few donate honestly.
Quote from: Loki on Jun 14, 2008, 08:30 AM
Haha...I've always wonder. Why not just change the word 'donate' to 'buy'.
But I guess there's something in the law stating that you can't gain profit for hosting RO, they changed the word 'buy' to 'donate'. Player's buy their items to lvl, hunt and PvP better. Only a few donate honestly.
All of the donors just want themselves to be treated specially, and likewise most of them are immune to punishments..
(and likewise most of them are immune to punishments..) <<< oh yeah!ive noticed that >:(
in some server,selling items/zeny for real money is strictly probihited.
but ive seen that some donors violated this rules and did that
freely without worrying about facing the consenquences... >:(
ksing/looting and being harassed by donors is a common problem too...
if an average player guilty on any of these rules,they get baned instantly...
but if we talkin bout DONORS faults...they get away easily and sometimes
GM's is playing deft/blind to all complaints... >:( >:( >:(
~znro~
Yeah, but sometimes you would ask. The players who aren't donating knows nothing but to complain, and some even wants to piss you off for no reason-my scenario before.
xD honestly some servers really piss me off when they demain donations >.>
just for an example lol yes its an old picture
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/J_J_J21/Random/LegacyROItakouQuote.jpg)
its things like that which really really piss me off
XD and yes they really need to change it to buy, i mean honestly theres only about 1 server out of 100 that don't ask for donations
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 05:29 PM
xD honestly some servers really piss me off when they demain donations >.>
just for an example lol yes its an old picture
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/J_J_J21/Random/LegacyROItakouQuote.jpg)
its things like that which really really piss me off
XD and yes they really need to change it to buy, i mean honestly theres only about 1 server out of 100 that don't ask for donations
OMG! is that an appeal! /heh meh anyway
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
That's business. lol
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 14, 2008, 06:13 PM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 05:29 PM
xD honestly some servers really piss me off when they demain donations >.>
just for an example lol yes its an old picture
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/J_J_J21/Random/LegacyROItakouQuote.jpg)
its things like that which really really piss me off
XD and yes they really need to change it to buy, i mean honestly theres only about 1 server out of 100 that don't ask for donations
OMG! is that an appeal! /heh meh anyway Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 10, 2008, 09:42 AM
That's business. lol
You're correct!
Dx fine if its that way i hate business then Y.Y
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 06:50 PM
Dx fine if its that way i hate business then Y.Y
Lol'ed. Well, official or not, it's hard to find some server totally perfect staff,gameplay and everything. No donations? Well, there's some hidden agenda within it.
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 06:53 PM
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 14, 2008, 06:50 PM
Dx fine if its that way i hate business then Y.Y
Lol'ed. Well, official or not, it's hard to find some server totally perfect staff,gameplay and everything. No donations? Well, there's some hidden agenda within it.
That just means, the server owner have a business of their own and is profiting from it. A server with expensive dedicated host. Is there a server with this type of owner? Filthy rich and wasting money on random people?
Itakou wasted all his money on Harmony.
Just so you know and don't accuse him of s***.
Quote from: Aris on Jun 15, 2008, 11:46 AM
Itakou wasted all his money on Harmony.
was just using it as an example relax =3
Uh, donators will win against the normal players.
This question is tough and similar to this:
Who will win? Super powered humans with the ability to do things that you can't do OR your normal average friend across the street?
Either way, just like someone stated earlier, it depends on the GMs first, then skills, then it depends on what kinds of donation powers you get and then it's donators, then players, then noobs.
Nah better it would be this way:
Lickers > Donors > Normal Players
Lickers are people who are good enough in licking the admin's a** to become a GM or beg donation items to a GM. Therefore they are far superior than donors and players.
i wouldnt call it "donors" nor "donators"
they never donate, they BUY.
look at the deffinition in the dicitoanry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation)
my god!!!
im a licker......not
Quote from: phranxis on Jun 16, 2008, 10:17 AM
i wouldnt call it "donors" nor "donators"
they never donate, they BUY.
look at the deffinition in the dicitoanry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation)
my god!!!
im a licker......not
Nah, some does donate.
he does have a point
some of the donators (like 1 in 50) only donate just because there nice
so we can't say that all donators are bad
Quote from: JJJ on Jun 16, 2008, 02:32 PM
he does have a point
some of the donators (like 1 in 50) only donate just because there nice
so we can't say that all donators are bad
But these 1/50 have still a division - 1 is the angelic good Samaritan , the 2nd is the i gave you, you owe me special treatment. xD
Quote from: phranxis on Jun 16, 2008, 10:17 AM
i wouldnt call it "donors" nor "donators"
they never donate, they BUY.
look at the deffinition in the dicitoanry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation)
my god!!!
im a licker......not
They DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
QuoteThey DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
and some for shopping purposes** lol.
Quote from: Infection on Jun 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
They DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
this the real term of donation on private servers
[you don't get anything in return]... until some pserver started putting the premium rewards and the items you get for donating ... so on and so forth until the other pservers started to do it aswell
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Infection on Jun 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
They DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
this the real term of donation on private servers[you don't get anything in return]... until some pserver started putting the premium rewards and the items you get for donating ... so on and so forth until the other pservers started to do it aswell
Without premiums, no donation. So private servers keep on improving their "premiums"
You do realize that most donators have less skills?
It's not a rule that either 1 of those will own anything.
You need to think that:
- There's more normal players than donators.
- Therefore most likely the best skilled will be among the no donators.
- A donator can or not get stuff.
- A donator can or not be a nooblet.
Said that, we never know :o
Regards.
then that means im good ;D
(i did donate)
Quote from: phranxis on Jun 17, 2008, 04:38 AM
then that means im good ;D
(i did donate)
Obviously a spam.
Quote from: judo on Jun 16, 2008, 09:25 PM
You do realize that most donators have less skills?
It's not a rule that either 1 of those will own anything.
You need to think that:
- There's more normal players than donators.
- Therefore most likely the best skilled will be among the no donators.
- A donator can or not get stuff.
- A donator can or not be a nooblet.
Said that, we never know :o
Regards.
I agree on 2 and 4. lol. Well, any donor seem to be very good........ at bullying people. with remarks to their skill which relies on the advantageous donation items.
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 17, 2008, 04:44 AM
Quote from: phranxis on Jun 17, 2008, 04:38 AM
then that means im good ;D
(i did donate)
Obviously a spam.
Its up to the mods if that post is a spam or not.
Donates should be there to support the server. The thank you gives must be reasonable as well, like Santa Suit or Summer Suit etc. Donates should mean that the person who donates gain nothing while the person who gets the donate use it for something good.
Admins tend to seduce people with godly equips. That's why people 'buy' the items for their advantage and the admin gains money.
Quote from: Loki on Jun 17, 2008, 07:43 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 17, 2008, 04:44 AM
Quote from: phranxis on Jun 17, 2008, 04:38 AM
then that means im good ;D
(i did donate)
Obviously a spam.
Its up to the mods if that post is a spam or not.
Donates should be there to support the server. The thank you gives must be reasonable as well, like Santa Suit or Summer Suit etc. Donates should mean that the person who donates gain nothing while the person who gets the donate use it for something good.
Admins tend to seduce people with godly equips. That's why people 'buy' the items for their advantage and the admin gains money.
Nice idea, i may change the santa clothes to the shinigami GM clothes instead. hmm.. thinking about it..
It happens. Some people believe that donating is the same as buying rare items, instead of wanting to help the server. It's really up to the GMs and Admin not to make donate items so unbalanced. Many servers suffer this way..... like Anthem whose players are split ingame with tenson between donators and normal players.
skill>donations on most servers,atleast thats how most of the donations should be if u dont want a server with only rich kids.
i was just asking everyone if im a buyer or a donator
(well im a buyer, not a "s p a m m e r")
Spoiler
obviously a flame
ok....
Anyways i voted for the donators. for me skills aren't necessary if a novice with donator equips pawns transcendents.
i was off topic and forgot to vote
i vote for nators
if you donate for(if there was) a one-hit-kill weapon...
no one can stop you.(except from God ,GMs ,allah ,buddah ,satan ,da vinci and death...Helrouis)
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Infection on Jun 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
They DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
this the real term of donation on private servers[you don't get anything in return]... until some pserver started putting the premium rewards and the items you get for donating ... so on and so forth until the other pservers started to do it aswell
Okay..? Either way, it's still a donation.
If a big server wiped after recieving $4000+ in donations, the players couldn't sue them.
Quote from: Infection on Jun 18, 2008, 04:42 PM
Quote from: GM録mark登sanbeda数 on Jun 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
Quote from: Infection on Jun 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
They DONATE, not buy. They make a little donation to the server to help keep it running.. And in return, they give the player an item to thank the player. :]
this the real term of donation on private servers[you don't get anything in return]... until some pserver started putting the premium rewards and the items you get for donating ... so on and so forth until the other pservers started to do it aswell
Okay..? Either way, it's still a donation.
If a big server wiped after recieving $4000+ in donations, the players couldn't sue them.
Yes, that's the cold logic behind it... and I pity the individuals who wasted their money with the thing on the back of their minds that they "bought" the item(s)..
"Donation" is just a cover up word... behind that its still "Buying" since servers put prices on specific donation item...
i would say Donators still pawns anywhere, get rid of that +50 to stat items... :-\ :-\ :-\
donors are noobs,, i killed 2 pally donors in a same time,, 2vs1 , 2pally vs 1 pally,, 2 pally has tao , they have both, then they have LK card, so they sacri me 10x each bec, 1 sacri = 5hits so , 2 pally is = to 20sacri then they will use sacri again another 5 hits then they will use ZERK,, so zerk+tao card = how many HP ? the max vit is 250, and the lvl is 250,, imagine? 2 donor pally vs normal ? 2sacri type vs holy cross type ,, haha,, i raped them at the same time and at the same place,, so for me donors are noob,,
Quote from: chaos334 on Jun 28, 2008, 06:27 AM
donors are noobs,, i killed 2 pally donors in a same time,, 2vs1 , 2pally vs 1 pally,, 2 pally has tao , they have both, then they have LK card, so they sacri me 10x each bec, 1 sacri = 5hits so , 2 pally is = to 20sacri then they will use sacri again another 5 hits then they will use ZERK,, so zerk+tao card = how many HP ? the max vit is 250, and the lvl is 250,, imagine? 2 donor pally vs normal ? 2sacri type vs holy cross type ,, haha,, i raped them at the same time and at the same place,, so for me donors are noob,,
It depends on what type of server you're playing. Trying PvP in RebirthRO against donors. They have 2 +30 all stat headgear(Upper and Lower) with 4 slots and a +15 headgear(mid) with 4 slots too.
donators are no match for me!!!
Easy thing!!
Easy,cause logic °_°,an here the strike!
SKILL ISN´T PURCHASABLE!!
So,clear victory for non-donators,cause they learn to handle skills much bether than someone,
who just smashed all down with angra ,for example.
Geez,
Jin
donators.. have the advantage..
but... i like to test my skill by killing donators... /gg
donating is for the weak.
90% of the time i can own donaters because alot of them are noobs
who just don't know how to use them.
There's nothing wrong with donating to a server. However, donating for items that are mostly broken is hilarious and makes me laugh, especially on certain servers.
When I got back into RO in 2005, I was playing on EShadowRO, which was a completely donator-only server.
Some of the issues with it:
- ONLY Donators could be Level 255. You can't be 254 if you haven't donated.
- "Donation" Lord Kaho Horns - 4 slots and double the stats of the original version.
- Donation wings came in two flavours - broken and even more broken. First set of wings was +10 to all stats, and 3 slots. Second set was +20 to all, and 4 slotted.
- "Styx Dragon Card" - The new name for Detale, or at least there...it was apparently a test card that the admin's friend thought up. Unfortunately, it became a donation.
"Random Chance to cause "Dragon Breathe", which deals 9999 damage to the enemy upon physical damage."
Only Bathory Card could stop it, thankfully. It was an Armour card, to boot, so a non-donator that didn't know if its presence would get chewed up.
- You could donate a certain amount to get 255 on any stat you want. People who donated in excess would walk around with practically a GM build, all 255s.
- God Items - Megjingard, Sleipnir, and Brisingamen were donation only. So unless you wanted to fork over 1B to an already rich donator, kiss your chances at Megs goodbye.
Needless to say, I didn't care much for that, so I made sure to make non-donation characters that could stomp the living hell out of the donators. After a few months I made enough Zeny to buy two Megs and a Moonlight Flower Card, and made my way into PVP, where my guildmates and I destroyed the donate kids left and right.
Also, because you could donate for MVP Cards, one of the donators spread a rumor that Incantation Samurai/Samurai Specter Card's effect didn't work unless if you donate for it. I was lucky enough to get the card from one of my hunts, and was doing 8K mainhand damage on a non-EDP, double dagger Sin X.
Fun times. Even with all of its faults, I still loved that server and miss it to this day.
Donators have the advantage if we were to have both players with the same amount of skill in RO.