In my opinion, these skills are pretty lame.. and add nothing to a class's functionality ;/
Slow poison
Truly lame.. temporarily stops the HP drain from poison but not the DEF drop, while poison is easily cured by a green herb, panacea, royal jelly or a green pot.. all which are cheap.
Talkie Box
Adds nothing to the functionality of a sniper
Signum Crisis
Waste of skill points, I can't really see a use for dropping a demon/undead monsters def because that's just too much trouble for leveling.. and out of the question for MvPing
Mana Recharge
Because it needs mace mastery level 10, lol wut.
Gravitational Field
If only grav field did not prevent you from moving, this skill could arguably be 'decent' right now its a pretty stupid skill and I can't seem to find a use for it (nothing that heavens drive can fix)
Magical bullet
Waste of coins, does bad damage, ghost property.. can't find a use for this
edit:
Adaption to Circumstances
It's a requirement for encore > musical lesson but if it wasn't this skill would be really useless.
So yea, if anyone else thinks a skill is pretty bad and adds nothing to the functionality of a class, postt.
Brandish Spear, Spear Stab: Two skills that are both as slow or slower than BB and dont outperform it in damage. Where's the purpose?
Auto Counter: If it had worked against skills, it would be great. But this way, it's just lame.
Napalm Beat: ehh, what's that supposed to be except prerequisite to make ghost spell line too long?
Beg to differ about skid trap, its useful for pose lagging priests/champs/anything that pneumas/fogs with ankle snare + skid..
and shower + skid on yourself is .. kind of awesome.
I thought flag graffiti was still going to be implemented.., though it's a dumb skill.
Ah crap, forgot about using it with arrow shower to push people out of pneuma. Alright, removing it from my list.
Beast's Bane and Hunter's Spirit.
What exactly were they thinking? f*** yeah I'm gonna hunt bugs and puppies using Strength!
There's also a Crusader's Spear Quicken, but I think the mileage may vary from person to person. I just find it a bit moot since a majority of their skills rely on shields.
Beast strafing isn't so useless, especially if you play server with resetter (so 99% of today's privates), well made linked Sniper can be deadly for some MvPs.
I see no point in spear quicken too. If I want bashspam with 2H weapon, I'd take LK.
I'd also say Sphere Mine is useless, I actually never seen it used. Ki Explosion shares the same status.
Adaption to Circumstances is useful. Cancels songs. o.O If you don't know how to do a knife switch.
Plant cultivation level 2. Random plant, uses stem and has 50% chance to fail :-\
Also, sphere mine isn't that useless, I've seen many alches mob and then kill with marine sphere.
Counter- used it to kill some increase soils... once
aww ye
Phantasmic Arrow-... I think the name is tryin to overcompensate for something.
Sense- Online database makes this skill obsolete pretty much.
Used to think there were piles of useless skills. But the higher number of different rate/nurfed/buffed servers I've played, the more I begin to wonder if there are more than a few truely useless skills under any circumstance.
The plant cultivation for alchemist is one exception though. That thing sucks as much on a 5x server as it does on 5000x
signum crusis is bad. Even for BPs... most undeads have pitiful def anyway...
beast strafing is actually pretty crazy damage with the right build (and bragi of course).
spear quicken is just so gimped compared to a knight's 2h-quicken... just take a look at the descript...
frost nova is gimped mainly due to it's cast time. If it were a bit faster (like 2x FD cast time), it would be a great skill to mob with or to save your donkey from sticky situations...
knight's counter is actually crazy good when you're a 1 agi solo knight who encountered a frus/skogul or incubus/succubus or hodremlin, etc. Sure it's uses are limited, but the skill itself is good imho.
moscovia killed plant cultivation.
-w-
Actually, plant cultivation's a pretty fun skill... what other skill can say they produce poison spores and more stems?
Yeah, I thought so. Up yours. (By up yours, I mean up everybody's.)
Quote from: mahawirasd on Aug 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
beast strafing is actually pretty crazy damage with the right build (and bragi of course).
-w-
This...
I just tested a sniper on the test server with 99+41 STR, ~80 DEX rest in AGI..
WPE'd a DS/beasstrafe and beast did like 25k on eddga.
Pulled 42k on garm with thanatos.
Quote from: crysiscore3 on Aug 30, 2009, 06:50 PM
The plant cultivation for alchemist is one exception though. That thing sucks as much on a 5x server as it does on 5000x
Wat.
Hunt a few poison spores, Farm alcohol, karvo and a tiny bit of money at the same time, I use cult to farm alc on any server over hunting it from horongs and such, I find it faster(not including the other stuff you get :/)
Plant cultivation is by far, one of the most awesome fun skills in the game.
Well, to specifiy....plant cultivation 1 is useful. Level 2 is useless tho.
Quote from: Relics on Aug 31, 2009, 06:01 AM
Quote from: mahawirasd on Aug 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
beast strafing is actually pretty crazy damage with the right build (and bragi of course).
-w-
This...
I just tested a sniper on the test server with 99+41 STR, ~80 DEX rest in AGI..
WPE'd a DS/beasstrafe and beast did like 25k on eddga.
Pulled 42k on garm with thanatos.
Been saying that since ever, but people always seem to ignore me.
heal
cloaking
divest
acid bomb
assumpt
hscr
double strafe
Quote from: A92FL0163 on Aug 31, 2009, 07:46 PM
heal
cloaking
divest
acid bomb
assumpt
hscr
double strafe
why would cloaking and heal and double strafe be useless??
Quote from: uannaka on Sep 01, 2009, 04:44 AM
Quote from: A92FL0163 on Aug 31, 2009, 07:46 PM
heal
cloaking
divest
acid bomb
assumpt
hscr
double strafe
why would cloaking and heal and double strafe be useless??
.... wow.
Quote from: uannaka on Sep 01, 2009, 04:44 AM
Quote from: A92FL0163 on Aug 31, 2009, 07:46 PM
heal
cloaking
divest
acid bomb
assumpt
hscr
double strafe
why would cloaking and heal and double strafe be useless??
lolwat.
Also forgot asura >:3
And sonic blow.
QuotePhantasmic Arrow-... I think the name is tryin to overcompensate for something.
A good no-cast pushback skill. Also useful when using Odins[Earth Deleter] + Ulle's + Bowman's Scarf + Icarus Wing combo because you actually regain SP with every mob you kill only using one. Good for hunting mobs you can shot easily. I use it in PvP to push SinXs back and throw a Sandman down. Since the pushback range is only 3, many dumber SinXs will just attribute their movement to position lag and let their character auto walk back to me.
QuotePriest, Cure: Lolwut. Like you have the time to use it in heated situations.
I use it when I don't have bragi and have to cure Silence on someone since shift + Lex Divina has a much longer cooldown. Don't have space on my WoE BM for it though.
they should be removing their own silence themselves.
slow poison [green herb, detoxify]
Quote from: fluidin on Sep 08, 2009, 05:08 AM
they should be removing their own silence themselves.
amen
Quote from: fluidin on Sep 08, 2009, 05:08 AM
they should be removing their own silence themselves.
Sure that's fine for PvP/WoE what if you're out leveling with someone new and they don't have green pots?
People find things useless simply because they do not use them, someone who only PvP's will find sniper link 100% useless while a sniper who only MvP's will find it can be quite useful.
i know, but that limited usage doesn't make it "useful" to me, especially when even new players should be taught to carry green pots.
it has no real usage in all 3 areas of pvm/mvp/woe, while sniper link plays a huge role.
i do, however, get what you mean.
One-hand quicken- From my experience it's usually not a good idea for LKs to wield 1-handed swords. I would say if you're going to use a 1h weapon with a LK, it's better to use a Pike[4] because you get more options(spear skills AND Bowling Bash) and you get Maya/GTB/Thara Frog/whatever for use. If you're going to use a sword on a LK, use a 2h sword for Parrying and 2h quicken. Your opinion may be different, and I welcome opposition.
Wielding daggers and 1hswords give more aspd= more dps for bowling.
the only problem is dispel, but you -could- wield a GTB if you had one. the higher max HP of a LK and the ele res. of a valk shield sorta offsets the loss of thara anyway. not to mention the inherent advantages of a GTB.
Note that some of the best BB weapons are 1handers: CK, Icepick, and a certain weapon i don't really want to give out specifics on, but it's a one-hander too.
Dispell is a problem always. But no matter if you have 1HQ or not, DPS with swords/daggers is better than with spears.
and fluidin...do you really think that Edge is some kind of secret?
....Venom Splasher.
.....seriously. Look at its pre-reqs.
yeah, venom splash is bull..
Does more damage if enemy has low HP, lolwut. Why would I want to do more damage when my enemy is on low HP anyway? Might aswell just sonic blow hurr.
Thats another thing. Not only do you need to wait for it to happen, but you have to have a catalyst AND you need to have the pre-reqs to get it AND its a really sucky skill in general damage wise..
Did I mention there was a skill in the game called "Smoking" that does 1 damage to you? Thats quite useless too. xD
it's what orcs use right? Well, it is not player skill so...
http://irowiki.org/wiki/NPC_SMOKING
It was probably made as some sort of demonstration with the Cigarette item to discourage people from smoking.
Venom Splasher would be pretty cool is not for 1- prereqs that nobody ever takes and 2- does not stack with EDP. Good idea, bad implement.
Though Venom Dust is worse, IMO.
Edit: looking it up I noticed something: the timer goes up with skill level... didn't it used to go down to 2 seconds at rank 10?
Stacks with EDP on eathena
It should stack with EDP. Seconded Relic's post. It works for me, although damage is still really low, useless, and seriously who wants to wait for damage when you can clear range damage with SBK or GT anyway?
iROWiki says it doesn't stack with EDP. It's never failed me so far...
1-h link is hax when there's now dispell/quag... thorny shield+HoTB... /slur
venom splasher is kinda useless... but when used properly it is actually pretty crazy damage. it's pretty similar to that necromancer's skill in diablo... however you will need some good gears to really make it count.
the way to do it you first have to get the target hp to less than 3/4 (i usually try at 1/2 hp just to be safe). Then you switch gears to 2x +9 quad diligent OA (i have yet to try with that kind of hax gears, however i tried with regular daggers and find that what you need is the most base atk you can get. Anyone tried with +% cards?), and do the skill. 1300% ATK is pretty crazy when used properly.
now here's the rub; imho poison react is actually a good skill when used properly. I have yet to make a sinX, but i reckon if add Meteor Assault into the equation you could probably do some pretty l337 venom splasher spamming on mobs... since the countdown at lv 10 starts at 2s, you should have at least 3 mobs so that you can spam continuously... But really, even with poison react (unless the enemies are poison element) it works quite well... kinda hard to pull off, but it's fun imho...
now venom dust is near useless, but at choke points it's kinda OK coz i never seem to fail giving the poison status to enemies unless they use ED... thing is, poison status is kinda meh i guess...
-w-
Quote from: Sarin on Sep 10, 2009, 01:05 PM
Dispell is a problem always. But no matter if you have 1HQ or not, DPS with swords/daggers is better than with spears.
and fluidin...do you really think that Edge is some kind of secret?
not edge. >_>
Well, that's kinda interesting...what weapon do you have in mind then?
Let's take a look...
best raw damage: +10 tri bloody boned blade. I don't count items that are not usually available like Naght Sieger blades or Battlegrounds gear.
High def: Ice Pick
Tank: CK
Statuses: Edge, and if it is not available, Thin Blade with status cards.
Well, I do not count weapons that are not affected by 1HQ as it is what this discussion is about now...
Quote from: Metafalica on Sep 10, 2009, 04:10 PM
It should stack with EDP. Seconded Relic's post. It works for me, although damage is still really low, useless, and seriously who wants to wait for damage when you can clear range damage with SBK or GT anyway?
You don't wait for damage, you keep damaging the target, you throw it to "execute" the target if it is being healed, unless you're agaisn't another assassin, where you can use it to damage him and make him show up after a while.
At least thats what I hear
Quotebest raw damage: +10 tri bloody boned blade.
yes all lks should use a +10 tri bloody boned blade ALL LKS USE A +10 TRI BLOODY BONED BLADE.
QuoteStatuses: Edge, and if it is not available, Thin Blade with status cards.
why not multi status spears? maybe some +10 tri silence cursing blade ALL LKS USE A +10 TRI SLIENCING CURSING BLADE.
Quote from: A92FL0163 on Sep 11, 2009, 12:15 PM
Quote from: Metafalica on Sep 10, 2009, 04:10 PM
It should stack with EDP. Seconded Relic's post. It works for me, although damage is still really low, useless, and seriously who wants to wait for damage when you can clear range damage with SBK or GT anyway?
You don't wait for damage, you keep damaging the target, you throw it to "execute" the target if it is being healed, unless you're agaisn't another assassin, where you can use it to damage him and make him show up after a while.
At least thats what I hear
HEY I VENOM SPLASHED YOU IM GONNA STAND HERE AND WAIT.
Hey why didn't you die? :(
Well, I guess 1H quicken is better than I thought, then.
Quote from: Omi on Sep 11, 2009, 12:19 PM
yes all lks should use a +10 tri bloody boned blade ALL LKS USE A +10 TRI BLOODY BONED BLADE.
That's odd, double bloody double explosive does more damage for me...
And I would agree with Venom Splasher being stupid. Catalyst + a timer + incredible prereqs? Wtf Gravity? Sure, it's powerful, but...
Quote from: Majinken Souga on Sep 11, 2009, 02:58 PM
Well, I guess 1H quicken is better than I thought, then.
Quote from: Omi on Sep 11, 2009, 12:19 PM
yes all lks should use a +10 tri bloody boned blade ALL LKS USE A +10 TRI BLOODY BONED BLADE.
That's odd, double bloody double explosive does more damage for me...
And I would agree with Venom Splasher being stupid. Catalyst + a timer + incredible prereqs? Wtf Gravity? Sure, it's powerful, but...
I was being sarcastic with that post. Double explosive (I think thats an MVP card, TG? lazy to check) on a 99/70 1/1/1 server, where im basing my posts off of, no one would have that amount of mvp cards, let alone use it in a bad weapon like that.
Venom Splasher was amazing back in the day before trans and linkers, now it just really needs updating, to be honest.
Yes. Explosive is Turtle General. Double Explosive, Triple Explosive etc, on a well-run server should be impossible. Sigh. Lazylazy.
Linkers: Half of all the link skills and FSK
WS: Ore Discovery
FSK, Useless? Probably one of the more useful skills when used properly, don't forget that it dispels Taekwon, SG and SL buffs on hit and can be copied by stalker for some swift movement while dispelling buffs at the same time.
and meh, half that's quite a lot..
imo, only champion/monk and snovie links are bad.
Monk link is good... for combo monks. It's just that no one plays combo monks.
SN link is very nice, and so is Ore Discovery(Well maybe not so much on pservers where 10x drops are "low rate" and OD is unaffected...)
Ore discovery is a pimping skill. I got my first emp ever through that while killing high orcs.
Quotesnovie links are bad
snovies with ip is srs bsns. although not better than any other class, you can atleast laugh more at people when using sn.
why play sn
Quote from: Relics on Oct 02, 2009, 08:28 AM
FSK, Useless? Probably one of the more useful skills when used properly, don't forget that it dispels Taekwon, SG and SL buffs on hit and can be copied by stalker for some swift movement while dispelling buffs at the same time.
i mean, FSK on a linker. Linkers dont kick.
This:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/Jonks/lolthis.jpg)
Only level 8 is useful.
Identify
Triple Action
Happy Break
Napalm Beat
Sword Mastery, Iron Fist, Demon Bane, Spear Master, etc. Maybe not useless but a big waste of points.
Steal Coin :waste of points
Quote from: bear_goes_rawr on Oct 03, 2009, 02:40 AM
Identify
Triple Action
Napalm Beat
Sword Mastery, Iron Fist, Demon Bane, Spear Master, etc. Maybe not useless but a big waste of points.
Identify is a great way to break homunculus afk-autoloot timeouts when you're watching a movie or something :)
The rest of the skills, you just need to realise why they are useful (I think I've proven Napalm Beat is a very useful skill because of AoE status wizard on RO). Demon Bane, iron fist, good for combo monks (Barrage Fist kekeke), Spear Mastery... best skill for knights, period. Sword Mastery is good aswell, as a
swordsdaggersman, because it makes leveling dramatically easier as a tanking build.
Sword Mastery, Iron Fist, Demon Bane, Spear Master, etc. increase auto attacking dps by like 4% and skill damage by like 1%. Pretty useless imo.
Edit* It(spear mastery) increases skill Dps by 2% and auto attacking dps by about 10%, so I guess it's ok for um....Emp breaking? As a knight...
emp breaking with spear? Lol.
Anyway...sword/2H sword/spear masteries are a must if you are playing the LK for damage, not just status annoyance. You'll need every bit of damage you can get.
Identify and napalm beat. xP I don't get the idea.
Quote from: fire9 on Oct 04, 2009, 10:02 AM
Identify and napalm beat. xP I don't get the idea.
Identify is actually usefull, it saves a lot of money(?)
On-Topic:
Axe Mastery: So many usefull skills to lvl up and you will waste a lot of points in this? I mean, what do we need it for? Answer: To kick asses with our Axe!!. My Answer:Oh yeah? 30% more damage? OMG THAT'S A LOT!. The point of a Biochemist/Creator is to kick asses with potions, not with an Axe u.u"
Want to kick asses with an Axe? Create yourself a Whitesmith/Mastersmith u.u"
And I can't think of another one xD
Bye!~
Quote from: mahawirasd on Sep 11, 2009, 02:58 AM
It's pretty similar to that necromancer's skill
WRAAAGH, Corpse explosionnn
or do you mean poison nova?
whatever, necromancers for life.
@Jokonson,
uhh, magnifiers are really cheap.. and one skillpoint invested into identify could've been invested in something better..
bringing loads magnifiers everytime you wanna farm something is not a good idea imho... wastes space and whatnot... well there is always that way to cheat where you can "know" what an item is just because of its weight (combined with the knowledge of the mobs you're farming)... BUT there are cases where having identify is good.
real example: mobs that drops two kinds of accessories with similar weight where the less-desirable one (i.e. flower ring) drops much more often than the one you're looking for (i.e. earring) so you can't tell the difference just by looking at it and bringing magnifiers become a burden because the less-desirable one drops at a rate of 60% or more while the other one is below 10%...
-w-
........Uhh, lol
If you specifically want to hunt a certain accessory, then know it's weight or something. You can always magnify them later, identify is really unneeded imo. Cause again, that point can be invested in something else..
+1 on the fire walk sorceress from Diablo
-1 on the above post without properly reading my example...
as i said (especially in the case with accessories), sometimes we can't tell them apart without identifying them due to similar weight and "unidentified icon"...
-w-
Meh, im just saying that if you plan to farm loads of gear anyway, it doesn't hurt to know what you're farming.. so like you said in your example, what other use has identify instead of saving like 50 zeny on that unknown item you to didn't know about. That's what I wonder about..
i know, my point was that you don't know how long you have to farm that mob for that particular acc and given the item-type as well as weight limit constraints, bringing more than 100 magnifiers becomes a moot point...
an easy example is Verit; it drops flower rings (10 weight) @ 2% and skull rings (also 10 weight) @ 0.01% chance. So if normal distribution applies, you'll have 200 flower rings before you get a skull ring. How much money did you have to waste on magnifiers? how much weight?
mummy: silver ring 0.1%, glove 0.01%
Not that anyone would farm verit for skull rings, there are undoubtedly better mobs for that trash. And the mummy case is only 10:1, but in case of certain custom mobs etc who drops similar weight items with quite a margin on drop rate, identify definitely comes in handy...
-w-
well idk, i dont mind having 200 magnifiers in my cart.. because whenever I make a build I see skillpoints as an essential thing, and why invest in something that can be replaced for something of a relatively cheap price.
But it kind of depends, low rate servers might want to put a point into identify, while mid-high raters would probably invest that point into something else.
So, I guess it either works for you, or doesn't work, personal preference.
I think quite a number of people would just use the identifier hex.
Quote from: fluidin on Oct 05, 2009, 07:33 AM
I think quite a number of people would just use the identifier hex.
It's not a hex, it's just editting the data. And everyone should know how to do it, in fact, everyone should just do it anyway.
Takes a lot of headaches out of RO.
Damn straight, after buying 10z Identifier I had to undergo six months long therapy session, cost be five thousand grand too.
Tip: when you get more than one unidentified item (for example, what you said about Verits), identify only one of the items, then right click it to see its description. Then right click one of the unidentified ones. If the window closes, it's the same item. If it changes, it's not. TA-DAAA you just saved 50 zeny!
Actually I just compare the selling price with the item database. Only identify when I want to use it.
Lullaby - Don't get me wrong, can be useful in WoE, but the skill puts your own partner to sleep. Why would I use a skill that potentially leaves your partner vunerable during WoE?
Harmonic Lick/The Ring of Nibelungen - I like the song that accompanies it, but the effect it useless. My as well use Loki/CP or MS/Bragi, etc.
Battle Theme/A drum on the Battlefield - Same as above, waste of skill points. There are better skills to spend pionts in.
s*** no, Harmonic Lick and Drum are definitely not useless.
Just because you're not CP-ing or Stringing doesn't mean that there aren't other Clowns doing it. The damage increase is in fact phenomenal; especially effective for precast GT sinxs.
Champ's Chi Explosion FTW
Quote from: Annihilate on Oct 12, 2009, 02:57 PM
Champ's Chi Explosion FTW
That skill owns, I think...I really can't think of any useless skills right now actually, but the closest that comes to mind is slow poison
Gravitational Field is useless??? I think It comes in handy when damaging the emp. :D
Quote from: cheese on Oct 15, 2009, 10:17 PM
Gravitational Field is useless??? I think It comes in handy when damaging the emp. :D
on a no pop server...
Gravitational field, useless?
Ridiculous -___-
Phantasmic Arrow is actually a good skill. It pushes things back and it's not the damage that matters; it's removing the enemy from close-range. I've used it countless times in Abbey and it's really useful.
Monster Property is probably the most useless skill ever. Period. Thank God it's not a prerequisite to anything good.
Don't forget First Aid! Only good for the first 3min.
monster prop is used on officials to check things like current hp, I think?
Yeah, but PServer-wise, it's useless due to !/@mi. Even for the official server, though, anything you can see from Monster Property / Estimation can be found here on RMS or on the 'Net somewhere so what's the point?
well it may be useful for checking current HP, since most pservers have a monster HP bar or percentage bar.. but officials dont?
and also element change? i dont know lol, i just see it being used sometimes.
Paladin's skill: Spear Quicken
I find it useless, since I never seen a paladin wear 2 handed spears :P
Quote from: Freedom on Oct 19, 2009, 05:35 AM
Paladin's skill: Spear Quicken
I find it useless, since I never seen a paladin wear 2 handed spears :P
LOL. Yeah. Why would paladins use 2 handed spears.. when their skills are based on shields o-o
spear quicken is a good lvling tool
also, sense can be used to damage an emp to low hp, then break it swiftly when required
hm, on low pop pservers spear quick is used with sacrifice sometimes with battle fork, for ultimate sacri dps...
knight spirit...
One hand quicken useless? how? .. and why
Quote from: fluidin on Oct 15, 2009, 11:12 PM
Gravitational field, useless?
Ridiculous -___-
How is it? 1,200 damage and reducing the aspd of w.e is in its area of effect by 25%? If your guild has the size nothing is funnier than seeing a HW use it on the emp. Sure the HW cant cast other spells or anything while its in use, but thats why you have people protecting it, High Priests were made for a reason n_n;
Most useless skill in my opinion is Identify, I never waste a skill point for it. Magnifiers please?
Quote from: fluidin on Oct 15, 2009, 11:12 PM
Gravitational field, useless?
Ridiculous -___-
it is a totally useless skill.
eh, sry, confused it wif ganban. but lol, it's still not as useless as some others.
Quote from: fluidin on Nov 01, 2009, 09:43 PM
eh, sry, confused it wif ganban. but lol, it's still not as useless as some others.
ganban and grav are both nice skills, ganban removes, SW, Demonstration, etc etc, its the HW way to say eff your LP.
It probably has been mentioned already, but lolwhocares
Hermode's Rod / Wand of Hermod. Okay, the song is nice and the concept is interesting, but... 1. it makes you unable to move; 2. it dispels everyone from your guild who goes through it; 3. it does not (or shouldn't, I believe) dispel enemies; 4. it prevents the use of skills; 5. the immunity to magic isn't worth all these downs most of the time; 6. it requires you to be near a portal (which, most of the time, is hard to get to, because you usually warp in way too far away from them).
It was only useful in eAthena 2 or 3 years ago, when it was basically a portable mass dispel that didn't let everyone who's not the user use any skills.
Quote from: devilsnevercry on Nov 02, 2009, 01:43 PM
Quote from: fluidin on Nov 01, 2009, 09:43 PM
eh, sry, confused it wif ganban. but lol, it's still not as useless as some others.
ganban and grav are both nice skills, ganban removes, SW, Demonstration, etc etc, its the HW way to say eff your LP.
yep, that's why i tot it was pretty ridiculous someone could say ganban was useless. turns out it was a misread on my part :P
Quote from: Randfeon on Nov 03, 2009, 09:32 AM
It probably has been mentioned already, but lolwhocares
Hermode's Rod / Wand of Hermod. Okay, the song is nice and the concept is interesting, but... 1. it makes you unable to move; 2. it dispels everyone from your guild who goes through it; 3. it does not (or shouldn't, I believe) dispel enemies; 4. it prevents the use of skills; 5. the immunity to magic isn't worth all these downs most of the time; 6. it requires you to be near a portal (which, most of the time, is hard to get to, because you usually warp in way too far away from them).
It was only useful in eAthena 2 or 3 years ago, when it was basically a portable mass dispel that didn't let everyone who's not the user use any skills.
It's basically the world's worst Land Protector.
well it's in a remote way more useful than LP....
it's WOE
your Prof does not have instacast
the enemy is SG-spamming the portal to the emp room
you and your mates come in and not all got marc/ED and/or good Mdef
whatchu gonna do?
-w-
I still think First Aid is the most useless :<
Quote from: Yusifer on Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 AM
I still think First Aid is the most useless :<
A mage in an LR without a vitata card would like to talk to you. Lol.
Quote from: mahawirasd on Nov 04, 2009, 04:01 AM
well it's in a remote way more useful than LP....
it's WOE
your Prof does not have instacast
the enemy is SG-spamming the portal to the emp room
you and your mates come in and not all got marc/ED and/or good Mdef
whatchu gonna do?
-w-
Protect everyone with Hermode's Rod and watch them die because they lost all buffs? lolno
well at least they have an entry point so that they can make a run for it...
and depending on the situation and geography, it might -just might- be feasible/doable/worth doing...
-w-
This thread got stupid about 6 pages ago.
Graffiti is definately one of the most useless skills found in RO. The only thing Graffiti can be used for is dull entertainment at best.
Flag Graffiti; so pointless no one ever bothered to make it work.
Quote from: Irrelevant on Nov 06, 2009, 06:25 PM
Flag Graffiti; so pointless no one ever bothered to make it work.
I'm curious to figure out what idiot actually wrote up, that it would be worked on in the future.
What a guy.
Also, about Grav. Field.
It's a viable way to get around GTB.
Assuming you have a Crit Sin, or something continuously hitting you, you can deal 1200 damage everytime you get hit, as well.
(It cancels when you get hit -> Recast over and over.)
It's not 100% useless, and definitely used for more than just killing emps.
Quote from: Irrelevant on Nov 06, 2009, 06:25 PM
Flag Graffiti; so pointless no one ever bothered to make it work.
Rofl.
Definitely, the most useless skill i've ever seen on a MMORPG.
Quote from: Irrelevant on Nov 06, 2009, 06:25 PM
pointless
I remember 2 years ago, when I spent several hours trying to use it.. :<
Basic Skill lv.8
Quote from: Irrelevant on Nov 06, 2009, 06:25 PM
Flag Graffiti; so pointless no one ever bothered to make it work.
The best thing about it is that you need it on at least level 1 if you want to use Manhole (and consequently, the whole graffiti tree) when you become a Shadow Chaser.
Well, at least you don't need Graffiti 1 too.
Quote from: Randfeon on Nov 09, 2009, 05:19 PM
The best thing about it is that you need it on at least level 1 if you want to use Manhole (and consequently, the whole graffiti tree) when you become a Shadow Chaser.
Well, at least you don't need Graffiti 1 too.
Grafitti itself still fails...
Quote from: Omni on Nov 09, 2009, 05:22 PM
GrafittiGravity itself still fails...
Fixed
Quote from: Flip on Nov 04, 2009, 08:43 AM
Quote from: Yusifer on Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 AM
I still think First Aid is the most useless :<
A mage in an LR without a vitata card would like to talk to you. Lol.
Tell that Mage to go make a Hunter and get some Mastela D:<
Quote from: Yusifer on Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 AM
I still think First Aid is the most useless :<
I actually find that helpful throughout my first classes, certainly kept me alive and kept me some zeny. =P
Quote from: Karmarsi on Nov 11, 2009, 10:06 AM
Quote from: Yusifer on Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 AM
I still think First Aid is the most useless :<
I actually find that helpful throughout my first classes, certainly kept me alive and kept me some zeny. =P
In 3 years of LRs/MRs, I have never used that skill rofl ><
The people who said First Aid is useful might have played officials, ya know.
First Aid is useful when you're playing a Stalker and you want to grab your crotch.
Or when you're a female Stalker and want to strike a sexy pose. ;D
Quote from: Relics on Aug 29, 2009, 11:58 AM
In my opinion, these skills are pretty lame.. and add nothing to a class's functionality ;/
Slow poison
Truly lame.. temporarily stops the HP drain from poison but not the DEF drop, while poison is easily cured by a green herb, panacea, royal jelly or a green pot.. all which are cheap.
Talkie Box
Adds nothing to the functionality of a sniper
Signum Crisis
Waste of skill points, I can't really see a use for dropping a demon/undead monsters def because that's just too much trouble for leveling.. and out of the question for MvPing
Mana Recharge
Because it needs mace mastery level 10, lol wut.
Gravitational Field
If only grav field did not prevent you from moving, this skill could arguably be 'decent' right now its a pretty stupid skill and I can't seem to find a use for it (nothing that heavens drive can fix)
Magical bullet
Waste of coins, does bad damage, ghost property.. can't find a use for this
edit:
Adaption to Circumstances
It's a requirement for encore > musical lesson but if it wasn't this skill would be really useless.
So yea, if anyone else thinks a skill is pretty bad and adds nothing to the functionality of a class, postt.
Throw rock lol
Quote from: mickiedeez on Nov 13, 2009, 06:05 PM
Throw rock lol
Can be used as a tanking tactic... kind of like Provoke. It's aslo fun to spam people with it.
But yeah, pretty pointless skill.
has uses like determining whether opponent is wearing GR, breaking up casts, stunning low vits.
defo not pointless
slow posion can be usefal as it now stops bleeding
talkie box is useless :D
signum crisis is good for a champ vs demon type mobs can wipe them out quick
mana recharge is strickly for battle high priest you dont need int that much :D
Grav field is good in a icewall trap as thay cant move out of its crushing pain
Magical bullet is powerful if you max dex and int as its formuler is based on ATK + MATK
AoC i guess needs revamping as people can just take of there wepon haha