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Title: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: iIse on Feb 03, 2008, 02:53 AM
Is there a way of countering/resisting the Tarot Card of Fate's COMA? The server I'm playing got 4slots on all except shields, shields got 2 slots.

Thanks for those who help.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Feb 03, 2008, 03:27 AM
Use a Bathory card in your armor. Coma does not effect the shadow property, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 04, 2008, 06:07 AM
go to a safety wall ;)
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 04, 2008, 01:59 PM
Safety Wall blocks Tarot o_O? Tarot is a magic spell not a physical skill? Not sure about Bathory or Evil Druid tho... it might stop it but I highly doubt it for some reason >_>.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Infection on Feb 04, 2008, 02:01 PM
Quote from: phranxis on Feb 04, 2008, 06:07 AM
go to a safety wall ;)
Wow, you are obviously missing a brain. Any smart Clown that uses Tarot card of Fate would use Musical Strike once that coma card hits. Here's a little side note of you..  RANGED > SAFETY WALL.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Landorin on Feb 04, 2008, 06:31 PM
There's no way to counter Coma except to heal yourself quickly before they can hit you after you're coma'd.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Guest on Feb 04, 2008, 11:19 PM
Quote from: Infection on Feb 04, 2008, 02:01 PM
Wow, you are obviously missing a brain. Any smart Clown that uses Tarot card of Fate would use Musical Strike once that coma card hits. Here's a little side note of you..  RANGED > SAFETY WALL.
dude try to be nice k?
i can understand if you think hes not the best player but please try not to insult him k? for me? i'll giff u a cookie k?
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Kurama on Feb 05, 2008, 07:52 PM
bathroy can counter tarot card =/

bathroy can not counter coma

but...

tarot card is darkblessing, not coma.

Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 06, 2008, 06:52 AM
did i say safety wall? :o
WTF
wrong post
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just use GTB
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 06, 2008, 11:53 AM
Quote from: phranxis on Feb 06, 2008, 06:52 AM
did i say safety wall? :o
WTF
wrong post
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just use GTB
I thought that only blocked Magical skills like Storm Gust or Firebolt and so on.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 12:49 AM
I thought Coma was something more like an ailment [Correct me if Im wrong]

So if you use GTB its countered? if thats the case then maya card will be able to reflect it??  ???

[then again is Coma a magic property attack or something along those lines??]
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 08, 2008, 01:04 AM
GTB cancels magic.
it also cancels acid bomb and soul break
so maybe it can deflect tarot card
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 01:16 AM
So your saying that Coma will be deflected?? is that it??

For instance i use LOD then Coma on the enemy[the enemy is carded w/ Maya card] then the Coma will be casted to me by chance??

[I never would have thought that GTB counters AB and SD sorry if im being no0b...plz dont axe me for this  :P ]
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 08, 2008, 05:47 AM
Quote from: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 01:16 AM
So your saying that Coma will be deflected?? is that it??

For instance i use LOD then Coma on the enemy[the enemy is carded w/ Maya card] then the Coma will be casted to me by chance??

[I never would have thought that GTB counters AB and SD sorry if im being no0b...plz dont axe me for this  :P ]

uhhh...
tarot is magic then GTB...
GTB cancels (some) magic/skills.
not "abnormal status" /pif
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 05:53 AM
So Coma is an abnormal status?? is that it??

And also if tarot casted coma[like what the guy(who posted it) says so] then tarot will be countered but the Coma still goes through?? or is it that tarot is countered together with the casted coma??  ???
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 08, 2008, 12:39 PM
Tarot is a skill not a magical skill from what I know...
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 05:00 PM
I think someone posted an answer about it already that its more like of a mystical attack[or so he calls it]

Then AD SD Tarot [i think there's more its just that im not to sure about it] will not be deflected or countered block or whatever definition you want to call it ??? by GTB or Maya  ;D

[About Coma idk if it really is an ailment or a magical physical or mystical??? form of attack so for now there's no way of countering it since the type is still unknown]
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 08, 2008, 05:55 PM
Yeah GTB is for Magical Spells like Firebolt or Storm Gust and so on.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 06:02 PM
Well just for the record mr.clown i always carry w/ me a GTB for siege purposes and i still get hit by SD[if they get to lucky they're able to kill me and for AD or AB was it?(it does uses int to power the skill up but still not part of the magic family)]

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Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Feb 08, 2008, 08:18 PM
xD As it has been said, SD is classified as a Mystic technique. It really doesn't fall under the catagory of a magic skill, despite it using MATK, so GTB isn't much help there. It's why SinXs are often the target for a lot of hate. xD Their SD skips the GTB, their Sonic Blow can essentially one hit kill all but the most vit-oriented classes, they're the best breakers in WoE, and so on. Most servers I've ever seen that have been around for a while, will eventually have a post in the suggestion section of the forum about nerfing the SinX. It has not once failed in a server that hasn't all ready done it in the first place to help hold back the whining before it starts.

Still, they're easy as hell to kill and counter. xD If you have a Prof that isn't an idiot, they're screwed. [ Skill Break the SD, use safety wall to make the attack pointless, freeze / spider web the pure CRIT / DDs early on to get rid of that issue, and so on. ] And that's only the character that comes to me at the top of my head.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 08:28 PM
Well thats for SD... but for Coma someone should post of what kind of an attack is it coz i doubt its really an ailment[even though i said its more like an ailment] and if its countered by Bathory then is Coma considered as a shadow property attack??

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Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 08, 2008, 08:36 PM
coma is the effect of a tarot card
so maybe the coma wont get through
cus its part of the skill
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 08:46 PM
Ah i see but if by chance Coma is an ailment then i think what would happen is that tarot is countered but the Coma still goes through

[its like cicada... when a swordie bashes a ninja w/ cicada it misses but the stun effect goes through..(well correct me if im wrong this as physical attack idk if its different w/ mystical tech.)]
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: iIse on Feb 08, 2008, 10:11 PM
Well, my friends on the server I played said that GTB can counter it. But I myself don't know if it works. And GTB in this server reduces 25% of Magic Damage. They changed it.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 10:13 PM
Quote from: Xeisuke on Feb 08, 2008, 10:11 PM
Well, my friends on the server I played said that GTB can counter it. But I myself don't know if it works. And GTB in this server reduces 25% of Magic Damage. They changed it.

Counter what? SD? Tarot? AD? be more specific
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: iIse on Feb 08, 2008, 10:23 PM
Now, I'm the one offtopic eh?.. I'm talking about the TOPIC... Geez... I wonder why you guys have topic other than tarot..
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 08, 2008, 10:46 PM
LMAO~  /heh its because the clown dude started it anyway its mystical tech. so i doubt that GTB counters it  :-[
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 09, 2008, 05:12 AM
whats mystic?

and coma is a ailment (look here (http://irowiki.org/wiki/Status_Effects))
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 09, 2008, 05:27 AM
Quote from: phranxis on Feb 09, 2008, 05:12 AM
whats mystic?

and coma is a ailment (look here (http://irowiki.org/wiki/Status_Effects))

So we got ourselves the answer[finally!]

Well about Tarot being a mystic tech. i think im already satisfied by it[but if there will be a more accurate answers then the better]
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 09, 2008, 01:20 PM
GTB doesn't block Tarot, SD or AD... -_-
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 09, 2008, 06:27 PM
Quote from: Aris on Feb 09, 2008, 01:20 PM
GTB doesn't block Tarot, SD or AD... -_-

That alone is already a big help since if AD is blocked by GTB then the only thing that creators can do is FCP...  /hmm
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Landorin on Feb 09, 2008, 09:34 PM
Why has this gone on so long

Nothing blocks Tarot Card of Fate.

Nothing Blocks Coma.

If a Tarot Card casts Coma on you, you will probably die.

There's nothing more to it than that.
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Aris on Feb 09, 2008, 10:38 PM
Quote from: Landorin on Feb 09, 2008, 09:34 PM
Why has this gone on so long

Nothing blocks Tarot Card of Fate.

Nothing Blocks Coma.

If a Tarot Card casts Coma on you, you will probably die.

There's nothing more to it than that.

Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Zephyroth on Feb 22, 2008, 09:21 AM
tztztztz coma is blockable =) never tested it? its easy on high rate ... but well on low rate it could be difficult JUST USE GTB and FCP(because sometimes tarot breaks your shield ) i know gtb blocks tarot so dun argue with me =)
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: phranxis on Feb 22, 2008, 09:18 PM
and GTB blocks AD.

tried and tested

kill your F****** self if you dont believe me
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Feb 23, 2008, 03:41 AM
WTF this topic isn't dead yet??  /omg
Title: GTB card has advantages, but there are also disadvantages.
Post by: KingRoan on Apr 07, 2008, 10:58 AM
GTB blocks all magic skills even the good ones like HEAL, BLESSING, etc. so if you are using it better be independent[withouth a priest]so you'll have to bring a lot of potions etc. :P
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Apr 07, 2008, 01:35 PM
The problem is that it's not specified what is a "magic skill" and what is a normal "skill"
Title: Re: Countering : Tarot Card of Fate
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Apr 07, 2008, 06:35 PM
check your server modifications maybe they allowed SD AB tarot etc.. to be blocked by GTB