Clown Discussion :)

Started by zen, Mar 06, 2010, 11:05 PM

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zen

A brief discussion about the server im currently playing.
Rate: 1000/1000/500
We have donation items
We have items that seem imbalanced, but isnt :)
Full Buffs
max level 99/70
The Server is all about PVP

My Equips:
TopHeadgear: Evolved Feather Beret[4] with 4 Kiel D-01
EFB - All Stats+10, Int+5, Vit+5, MDEF+1, and Reduce 10% Damage Taken from DemiHumans
MiddleHeadgear: Wings of Victory[1] with 1 Vesper Card
WoV - MDEF+10
LowerHeadgear: Sage Ring[1] with Maya Purple
SR - Matk+3%, Dex+1, Reduce 3% Damage taken from DemiHumans

Body: Brynhild[1] with Tao Gunka Card
Bryn - Increase max HP by 20x(baselevel), Increase max SP by 5x(baselevel), Increase Physical and Magical Power by 10%, MDEF+10

Shield: Vanguard Shell[1] with Thara Frog and/or Golden Thief Bug
VS - 20%reduce damage taken from DemiHumans

Garment: Asprika[1] with Deviling/anti elements such as Dustiness/Hode/Jakk
Asprika - Adds Resistance to all Elements by 30%, Flee+30, Mdef+5

Footgear: Vanguard Variant Shoes[1] with Fallen Bishop Hibram
VVS - MaxHP and MaxSP +10%

Accessory: 2 Orlean's Glove with Zerom Card


My Stats:

Str - 21+38
Agi - 45+52
Vit - 27+27
Int - 1+40
Dex - 97+83
Luk - 80+54

So i need help on improving my clown.

I aim for a Tarot and Arrow Vulcan build.

My questions
1. how much luk do you recommend for an effective tarot?
2. does aspd improves spamming of Arrow Vulcan?
3. and what tips could you give to improve my spamming?

Can you give me tips and tricks?

Thanks and God Bless

Relics

1. LUK Contributes nothing to tarot, actually the only things that do are DEX for cast time/aspd, and AGI also for aspd.
With 4 kiels, high aspd makes your tarot more spammable.

2.With 4 kiels, aspd contributes massively towards vulcan arrow spammage.
actually, with 4 kiels, ASPD only caps your spammability to the number your ASPD is.
The next thing that hinders you is client sided animation delay and the speed you press.

3. ^


Sarin

Wow, what a screwup server.

BG equip and you could get 100% DH resist.

zen

@Sarin

you may think that but..

we use converters to change our elements

@Relics

I thought LUK contributes to Tarot.

More LUK = more chance of casting TAROT CARD

cause as we all know its like.. 40%?

Relics

Changing elements won't enable you to do damage if your opponent has 100% Demi human resistance, sarin is right, the server setup is screwed up unless they tried to balance things (which would still make it stupid)

AFAIK, luk does not increase the chance of tarot on eAthena (assuming no custom changes are made to tarot), nor officials... the chance is set depending on your tarot level.. with lvl 5 being 40%.




Sarin

Frankly, on such server, you know what char would rule? Strip/coma stalker. 99 dex 99 agi 25 vit base stats.

fluidin

LUK increases the chance of coma from coma-inducing weapons/cards.

since the coma effect of tarot is part of the skill, i believe LUk won't have anything to do with its chance.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

zen

haha you can't get a 100% resistance to demihuman.

trust me its not an imbalanced RO :)

every job can rule over each other

@all

thanks :)

Sarin

Hah...at resists at this scale, I don't believe that conventional damagedealing can have any effect.

zen

thats why we use converters.

for example a person has a 100%resistance to wind.

then use alternatives such as fire and seismic

fluidin

if u have battlegrounds set,

see:http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=item_db&comid=113

then it is possible to get 100% demi-human resist, as claimed by sarin.

it's not a 100% resistance to elements, which is easily achievable. it's 100% demi-human resistance. which if achieved, should mean that all damage rendered in pvp/woe to be misses.

sarin, u might wanna do the math for him
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Sarin

Actually, when I look at it, I think you'll get max 89% DH.

KVM BG set you posted gives total of 16%. +10% from CK, +13% from headgears,+50% from shield...gives me total of 89%

Still, along with Aesprika, you could have total of 92.3% resist, I don't believe that anything that doesn't ignore def would actually hit you.

This damn server is alll about coma, I say.

Tachibana

First off, a 4 slotted headgear in a 99/70 server is just plain ridiculous

Like mentioned before, a Clown rarely, if ever, needs luck. I don't the specs of this server when it comes stats affecting skill delays but it would be either dex or agi, usually agi. If it's agi, put some of the points used for luk towards the agi. For PvP purposes, I would use a lot more vit. Even though you'll have a lot more HP than a typical Clown on another server, if everyone has access to what you have it means the overall average HP of chars is higher. I'm assuming you have that much str for carrying pots, etc but I still think it's a tad high due to how much your str bonus is. And also, you could add some to Int since Tarot can sap SP pretty quickly, especially with the Kiel's lowering delay

But yeah, Coma all the way on this server