Hello all,
Not long ago I was approached by the organizer of this WoE Tournament Event. I feel this could bring some fun to people that love WoE and PvP in RO. So I voluntarily agreed to help to get the words out for the event. Now the date is determined, it will happen on Sunday July 26th, 2009. I wrote this page that have the basic information and links to the details:
http://ratemyserver.net/woe_tournament_2009.php
I won't repeat what is said in there. I suggest anyone who is interested to form a team and join it. If you have any suggestion to the event, you should do so in the event's discussion forum.
As we all know, RMS is lacking staff so we will not participate in the actual hosting or on-server help-out during the event. The organizing server (Feel-RO) will handle the scripting and mechanism necessary to provide a smooth and professional event experience.
To the RMS community, I would like to hear what do you think about the event and should RMS help public similar events in the future. It was many people's idea to host an inter server event, I can recall things like this was discussed more than a few times in this forum over the years. Though the technical difficulties seems to stop people from making it into reality. Let's see how this one goes, hopefully it will be great and encourage more event of this sort in the future to lighten up the RO private server community.
- yC
Finally 1st Post gonna edit
But all i can say right nao is THis Topic & Event is filled WITH:(http://www.lisamcpherson.org/images/so_much_win_graphic.png)
I think it'll be great for competitive WoE/PvP players.
Heh, I thought and always have thought of this. It'll probably go very well. It's pure excitement and enjoyment, no levelling or hunting needed, right?! Whoop! As for if RMS should help public events like this in the future, I say sure, if it goes well.
Only thing I'm worried about is that is I want to join but I don't have a guild with 60 players. *Grumble grumble* Time to unite! It's morphin' time.
I've already said this, but this has loads of potential.
Could be one of the first events to interconnect servers, and possibly make a global ranking for WoE private servers.
Feels more like a FeelRO advertisement like this. Isn't RMS supposed to be a neutral site? It kinda damages RMS' credibility.
It'd be more fair if you'd call it the FeelRO WoE Tournament and not associate RMS with it.
I don't think this should be classified as FeelRO advertisement, this could just open up upcoming WoE tournaments where other servers host it, and all of its mechanics + server stuff.. but RMS is the one who advertises/keeps track of results as a sort of global leaderboard.
Just a new concept that might work out
It might not be meant as an advertisement, but I always thought RMS was a neutral place. I think every server out there would want to host a WoE Tournament such as this. It's great publicity and will surely attract a lot of new players to your server.
Well true but.. if this turns out to be a success then aftwards other servers could also host free-sign/insta gear up tournaments and advertise them through RMS.
Obviously, but would RMS really allow any server who wants to hold an inter-server WoE Tournament to have a special page on RMS, with full support from RMS?
Dunno. That kind of stuff still needs to be heavily discussed
Quote from: DeePee on Jul 15, 2009, 06:14 AM
Obviously, but would RMS really allow any server who wants to hold an inter-server WoE Tournament to have a special page on RMS, with full support from RMS?
Well, it's not biased, fRO is just organizing, any server can organize things for RMS right yC?
It's the first time I've seen any server get a special page on RMS and have something on their server be actively promoted and supported by RMS :/
Quote from: DeePee on Jul 15, 2009, 06:31 AM
It's the first time I've seen any server get a special page on RMS and have something on their server be actively promoted and supported by RMS :/
Didn't SchythRO have good ties with RMS before?
No idea about that, but all I'm saying is that I see (saw) RMS as a neutral party in the world of Private RO servers. And an action like this kinda damages that a lot.
Sounds like a ripoff of the "Super WoE" Terra-Gaming held in june, exactly 1 month ago. Here is a screenshot:
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2614/screensuperwoe14june002.jpg)
Quote from: HiddenDragon on Jul 15, 2009, 08:31 AM
Sounds like a ripoff of the "Super WoE" Terra-Gaming held in june, exactly 1 month ago. Here is a screenshot:
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2614/screensuperwoe14june002.jpg)
Technically, this is a super WoE championship between servers...
Actually, it was a cross server WoE :(
Guilds from EternityRO and EssenceRO were there, and a LOT of other servers I couldn't remember. I had to help the admin modify his server to exceed 1k connections because terra-gaming never had anywhere close to that number of players on their servers ^^
Can vouch for HiddenDragon, since I was there, but even then, 2 years ago there was an event like this called "ArenaRO" where people were given instant 90/60 characters and guilds were given RWC styled loot in their storages when created, and a week to hunt additional gears / cards / levels.
The problem I see with this event is all the major guilds are leaving RO lately, so it won't be as great as previous competitions, and the other is that it's run by the FeelRO team, and everyone who plays there can vouch they will need to deal with a lot of hosting and connection issures before this starts.
Just goes to show you, give something good, and people will complain.
Why are we complaining about this? RMS isn't saying "GO JOIN FEEL RO!" or anything of the like.
To be honest, I've known about this for a bit and have kept quiet, because yC didn't want it to look like RMS is advertising on FeelRO's behalf.
So one staff took the initiative and have the stones to get the ball rolling. Yet, if it were anybody else, you guys would still complain.
Word wouldn't have gotten out if nothing was said about it, and this is the one really good thing to come out of RO private servers these days, yet people will still piss on it. Absolutely fantastic.
Uh, what. All I'm saying is that the FeelRO administration have a nack for picking servers and hosts that can't handle the amount of users expected and have latencies that are good for one particular area, i.e where it's hosted.
Quote from: Descent on Jul 15, 2009, 09:04 AMWord wouldn't have gotten out if nothing was said about it, and this is the one really good thing to come out of RO private servers these days, yet people will still piss on it. Absolutely fantastic.
This is not quite correct - Terra-gaming only has ~200 players yet they were able to get the word out and ended up with over 1k participants without an announcement from RMS. FeelRO is many times the size and probably has a larger and more capable staff.
If it's a good enough thing, people WILL spread the word - RMS does not have to risk looking like it's advertising on FeelRO's behalf.
Quote from: Descent on Jul 15, 2009, 09:04 AM
Just goes to show you, give something good, and people will complain.
Why are we complaining about this? RMS isn't saying "GO JOIN FEEL RO!" or anything of the like.
To be honest, I've known about this for a bit and have kept quiet, because yC didn't want it to look like RMS is advertising on FeelRO's behalf.
So one staff took the initiative and have the stones to get the ball rolling. Yet, if it were anybody else, you guys would still complain.
Word wouldn't have gotten out if nothing was said about it, and this is the one really good thing to come out of RO private servers these days, yet people will still piss on it. Absolutely fantastic.
Don't get me wrong, I think the idea is good. Great even!
However, I'm just saying that I personally think that RMS should stay a neutral place and that doing things like this kinda messes that up. There are other ways to get people to join your tournament y'know. Emailing server owners, anyone?
It does seem a bit like an advert. Not from RMS, but from Feel. XD
But oh well.
I'm supposing they won't allow spectators? Darn.
Yah, I'm kinda iffy on the whole nuetrality/purpose of it.
Part of me is screaming holy crap this is an awesome, while the other is whispering couldn't this be a veiled attempt at Server Advertisement (on Feel's part not RMS). Granted it's not like they're saying "Join us and do this" but it's the saying any publicity is good publicity.
It would have my unconditional support if they had set up another site then linked to it. Separate site detailed what it was, rules, client download etc with a special credits/run by page for FeelRO.
But I digress, at its core, this truly does have the potential to be entirely epic, let's see how it goes, and if all goes well tweaks can be done for similar future events.
I won't say it's not similar to corporate sponsorship. However it's more like going to a Basketball Game and seeing the full menu from burger king posted about, instead of just the burger king logo.
Overall, don't look a gift horse in the mouth I suppose. As I said, I love the idea so there won't be anything of that nature coming from me, I just disagree with how they are doing it, regardless of how happy I am for them actually doing it.
Sigh. And my point still stands.
Get off your high horses. Again, if it was another Admin doing this, you people would still complain.
RMS is GIVING you an OPPORTUNITY, a great Networking Opportunity between servers, and after reading this, if I were the organizers, I wouldn't want to do it if this is how you people approach it.
I speak on behalf of myself and NOT RMS(even though I am a moderator), but yC is doing a good thing by notifying you guys of it via her site. Just because she's shedding light on it doesn't scream bias. If that were the case, every server that gets delisted could play that card.
Honestly, you people will ruin this. I don't speak on behalf of RMS NOR do I play or want to play FeelRO. But this is something that would be nice to the community, and yet again...more pissing on it due to semantics.
And yet, the same people will complain that "nothing new is going on" and RO is boring, but as soon as somebody puts something new, cue the peanut gallery to make a big deal of it.
Let's put this question on the table: If RMS WEREN'T to say anything about it, would you even know it exists? Let's hear some VALID arguments, not some nonsensical situations. If you can't come up with anything valid, you're full of yourself.
Quote from: Descent on Jul 15, 2009, 12:22 PM
Again, if it was another Admin doing this, you people would still complain.
We know we would.
XD
People are complaining about the advertising feeling. Not who is doing it. =P
Edit;
Word of mouth between friends.
Feel iRO's own advertising banners on sites.
Youtube videos (as lots of WoEers watch those for WoE videos, anyway).
MSN/Facebook/whatever statuses.
Yea DeePee and others, your concerns is my concerns too. I talked to a few ppl include my staff before if doing this will "hurt" RMS or the like. That is why I ask if RMS should help public this kind of event in the future. I'll take your input and consider it further if there's anything similar in the future. The current page and button stays because I agreed to help and I truely wish it will be successful.
I wrote the separate page is because I wouldn't want to put it as a front page announcement, that might really be too much "advertising" for the server. I consider the separate page as a bridge between RMS and the event. If you read the page (and see it is organized by another server) and decided to join that's good, otherwise you are feel to stay on the RMS site and browse around. I am not sending people directly to their page to sign up or anything. I want my visitors to know what is it before they decide. I hope you see I did try to avoid the "advertisement" call and I expect opinions from all sides.
The current setup will be here for roughly 2 weeks, so please bear with it. If it goes well, I will make a front page announcement of the winners etc so other servers might consider hosting something for the community in the future.
Another note is, I did asked for a detailed plan, staff resources, server resources etc before I agree to help in publicity.
Quote from: Omi on Jul 15, 2009, 09:07 AM
Uh, what. All I'm saying is that the FeelRO administration have a nack for picking servers and hosts that can't handle the amount of users expected and have latencies that are good for one particular area, i.e where it's hosted.
From what I just got told, FeelRO used to lag quite badly normally.
Will be interesting to see how they host this.
Ooo, are they trying to break the 3k player barrier?
Sounds nice. Hope the war suites my timezone.
Quote from: Edward on Jul 16, 2009, 02:32 AM
Ooo, are they trying to break the 3k player barrier?
3k player barrier? You should see jRO pservers with over 9k connected at once :x
FeelRo server is the LagHouse-ProfitMaker server. Dont donate for it.
Apart from that I hope everyone has fun on the event. Im myself checking up atm.
Quote from: DeePee on Jul 15, 2009, 04:52 AM
Feels more like a FeelRO advertisement like this. Isn't RMS supposed to be a neutral site? It kinda damages RMS' credibility.
It'd be more fair if you'd call it the FeelRO WoE Tournament and not associate RMS with it.
id like to say this would not be your opinion if talonro was running it
Quote from: Omi on Jul 18, 2009, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Edward on Jul 16, 2009, 02:32 AM
Ooo, are they trying to break the 3k player barrier?
3k player barrier? You should see jRO pservers with over 9k connected at once :x
Japanese Private Servers? Well duh, Japan is one of the most hardcore gaming nations in the world
Quote from: LiteX on Jul 21, 2009, 11:38 AM
Quote from: Omi on Jul 18, 2009, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Edward on Jul 16, 2009, 02:32 AM
Ooo, are they trying to break the 3k player barrier?
3k player barrier? You should see jRO pservers with over 9k connected at once :x
Japanese Private Servers? Well duh, Japan is one of the most hardcore gaming nations in the world
Not compared to Korea!
So. Have they added guns for gunslingers yet? =P
Quote from: Omi on Jul 18, 2009, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Edward on Jul 16, 2009, 02:32 AM
Ooo, are they trying to break the 3k player barrier?
3k player barrier? You should see jRO pservers with over 9k connected at once :x
Lol... I'm talking about FeelRO, not any other server. Have they broke 3k yet? Don't believe so.
i think this is an Advertisement of a Server. It would be better if Admin of "RMS" did not wrote "FeelRO" which is acceptable that it came from peoples Idea and would be better if you would say RMS Tournament. That's all. sorry if it hits you (servers).
(http://banner.ratemyserver.net/banners/Tournament_feelro_big.gif)
Are you sure you are the "First"?
No there have been other inter-server tournaments before. They probably say it to attract more attention to it.
U know what... I saw a loading screen quoting "First Massive Connecting WOE Tournament"... then I realized what they meant to say. I believe they just wanted to say FeelRO & RMS WOE Tournament No. 1; the word "first" doesn't mean they were the first to come up with the idea and host a WOE Tournament; it's just this is the first WOE of many to come... next month it will be No. 2. At least I think now that's what they are trying to convey. Anyways, bad english on their part.
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
Quote from: outerlimitro on Jul 24, 2009, 10:29 PM
i think this is an Advertisement of a Server. It would be better if Admin of "RMS" did not wrote "FeelRO" which is acceptable that it came from peoples Idea and would be better if you would say RMS Tournament. That's all. sorry if it hits you (servers).
You would not be complaining if Outer Limit RO was the host.
Quote from: soki on Jul 26, 2009, 02:35 AM
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
You would not be complaining if <your server of choice> was the host.
Quote from: Patapon on Jul 26, 2009, 08:41 AM
ignored stuff
This is just advertising FeelRO :/
on a more serious note, Hopefully someone records it, and it doesn't lag like hell. Sounds quite fun but I actually like mid population WoE's
Quote from: Patapon on Jul 26, 2009, 08:41 AM
Quote from: outerlimitro on Jul 24, 2009, 10:29 PM
i think this is an Advertisement of a Server. It would be better if Admin of "RMS" did not wrote "FeelRO" which is acceptable that it came from peoples Idea and would be better if you would say RMS Tournament. That's all. sorry if it hits you (servers).
You would not be complaining if Outer Limit RO was the host.
Quote from: soki on Jul 26, 2009, 02:35 AM
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
You would not be complaining if <your server of choice> was the host.
But others still would... so I don't see how your argument of "what if it was your server?" follows through as a valid response. Cause ultimately, it IS an advertisement whether you look at it straight-on or from a side. It is what it is, and it just so happened to be a good event.
Quote from: Edward on Jul 26, 2009, 06:11 PM
Quote from: Patapon on Jul 26, 2009, 08:41 AM
Quote from: outerlimitro on Jul 24, 2009, 10:29 PM
i think this is an Advertisement of a Server. It would be better if Admin of "RMS" did not wrote "FeelRO" which is acceptable that it came from peoples Idea and would be better if you would say RMS Tournament. That's all. sorry if it hits you (servers).
You would not be complaining if Outer Limit RO was the host.
Quote from: soki on Jul 26, 2009, 02:35 AM
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
You would not be complaining if <your server of choice> was the host.
But others still would... so I don't see how your argument of "what if it was your server?" follows through as a valid response. Cause ultimately, it IS an advertisement whether you look at it straight-on or from a side. It is what it is, and it just so happened to be a good event.
Advertisement huh?
May you point out the part where yC tells us to play feel ro? Or the part where yC sais feel RO is better then other servers?
Whats that? you cant? Letting more people know about an event that a certain server is holding is not advertising the server, It's letting more people know about an event that a certain server is holding. Weird how that works eh?
To me, Having a "current server" set is more advertising then this, Not only does it make people see the server more, Your implying its good, Now is everyone with a curent sever set advertising with every single post they make? :/
Quote from: Edward on Jul 26, 2009, 06:11 PM
But others still would... so I don't see how your argument of "what if it was your server?" follows through as a valid response. Cause ultimately, it IS an advertisement whether you look at it straight-on or from a side. It is what it is, and it just so happened to be a good event.
you would not be saying this if SurgeRO was hosting the event.
also it's about as much of an advertisement as saying "I play this server" is an advertisement.
also you are gay and possibly a moron
(http://ratemyserver.net/forum/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif)
You have no respect to people in this forum. You need it to stick around.
Quote from: Patapon on Jul 26, 2009, 08:41 AM
Quote from: soki on Jul 26, 2009, 02:35 AM
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
You would not be complaining if <your server of choice> was the host.
FYI i'm not interested on joining the tournament and i'm currently not playing any server
so your so called
QuoteYou would not be complaining if <your server of choice> was the host.
doesn't count for me
i'm not complaining i'm merely pointing out that there's a huge posibility that the people
hosting it will be giving advantage to their friends PERIOD!
Also just in case you don't read things throught i'm not talking about advertisement
i could careless about that sh*t i'm only talking about the advantage and disadvantage
of players who play in feelRO and for those who doesn't play it and are joining the tournament
It's not that hard for a player in FeelRO to dualclient and use their MAIN acct (which has good equips)
to trade their items to the new created acct for the tournament
And besides w/ feelRO's current reputation(check the HallOfShame) it's not hard for their
admins to let things slide for their GMs and other admins
If people dislike the tournament, just don't join it. I don't get why people come here saying "omg they'll cheat", if you're afraid of being tricked, just don't play the game.
inb4"baww"
i'm not joining it and i didn't say THEY WILL CHEAT i only said what IF they do
that would suck for other guilds who tried to play legit
See? Nobody appreciates anything, these days.
I appreciate Aunty Kath's cookie dough.
Quote from: Descent on Jul 26, 2009, 11:13 PM
See? Nobody appreciates anything, these days.
Yeah people couldn't hate things before.
Hey, how about this. Allow me to stop being nice for a second.
Those of you whining about "possible corruption" need to stop playing RO, and NOW. Players like you will inevitably ruin ANYTHING on the game, from WoE to party events.
This is my last post in this topic, because this is really making me sick.
This was recently released by the Admin of a servers indicating that there may be a security breach.
QuoteWithout going into too many details, anyone who attended the RMS FeelRO WoE Tournament needs to change their passwords immediately, and any accounts recently accessed and supposedly taken over, will be rolled back 1 week to before any of the invasions took place, the person or persons behind the invasions has been IP banned, and I have reported his IP and username, as well as his ISP to the FeelRO and RMS staff, incase there was a leak on their part.
It is advisable to change the password of your home server.
Ouch, that's about 2k-3k accounts? >_> even a small accountlist of ~100 accounts gets you to a lot of places.
You can say... the enemy guild... broke into FeelRO emperium.
Quote from: soki on Jul 26, 2009, 02:35 AM
I'm just curious since FeelRO will be hosting the event and such in their server isn't there
a pretty damn good posibility of "favoritism" such as like let say one of the admin will use
his guild and perhaps have some hidden "items" within their guild and such... I'm pretty sure
since it's on their server they will definetely be close to one the guilds in it right? and perhaps
give them an upper hand... i actually thing this should have been hosted on RMS's test server
just tweak some things at least we know it's gonna be really close to being legit woe
I'm pretty sure yC or a RMS admin will also be a GM in the tournament server, don't think this will happen
Isn't it already over and done with?
Quote from: bleu on Aug 01, 2009, 06:39 AM
This was recently released by the Admin of a servers indicating that there may be a security breach.
QuoteWithout going into too many details, anyone who attended the RMS FeelRO WoE Tournament needs to change their passwords immediately, and any accounts recently accessed and supposedly taken over, will be rolled back 1 week to before any of the invasions took place, the person or persons behind the invasions has been IP banned, and I have reported his IP and username, as well as his ISP to the FeelRO and RMS staff, incase there was a leak on their part.
It is advisable to change the password of your home server.
I got no report, information or note on this one. Please kindly share your source of the information.
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It's quite strange how FeelRO reacted to the news; instead of trying to protect the players (including the users of RMS), preventing any further potential damages and initiate a through investigation into the matter, they merely dismissed them as a "provokation".
I (RMS) have yet to be notified by them or anyone on any such issue. Can't judge on the validity as far as what have been shown.
Quote from: yC on Aug 02, 2009, 03:19 PM
I (RMS) have yet to be notified by them or anyone on any such issue. Can't judge on the validity as far as what have been shown.
perhaps u should contact your partners at FeelRO for further information.
I don't think they are such great "partners".
I believe RMS should choose more wisely when choosing partners, but I also think there are none that are really non corrupt or biased, or dis-honest.