Making a SinX in a high rate server

Started by finnith, May 23, 2007, 04:13 PM

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finnith

There have been a lot of people who ask for a guide to create a SinX in a high-rate server, and people like Glenn are annoyed by them. This guide is for people like Glenn.

THE GUIDE

First of all, this is a guide for double dagger SinX's. If you decided to make a Katar SinX, then stop reading the guide.

I chose the Double Dagger SinX cause they have the ability to have 8 slots on their weapons (4 per dagger). This allows a large amount of flexibility in what you are able to do. Needless to say, since your right hand will do the most damage, you should compound cards that would help increase your damage while you should compound cards that cast skills on your left hand weapon.

THE SKILLS
Since this guide is about a high rate server, I'm assuming that you can max out every skill, so this category is not really needed.

THE STATS
The max stat in high rate servers can vary, but you should still follow this schematic in making a SinX.

Max STR
Do not get too much VIT, Thanatos card holders will kill you
Max LUK
Get some INT for Soul Breaker
Enough DEX to hit anything
Enough AGI for Max ASPD if possible

THE EQUIPS
This is the category that most people ask about, but it is not really that hard to equip a SinX.*Note that for the weapons, you should use the best 4 slotted daggers in your server, I am using the Main Gauche [4] as an example. Also, I'm assuming that  everything is 4 slotted in your server. If everything is not, choose the card which you think is the most important

[u]Head[/u]

Upper:Anything you want if every thing's four slotted
4 Kiel D-01 cards



Middle:
The best wing your server has, if it does. Otherwise just use slotted sunglasses
Maya Purple
Lord Knight
Pharaoh


Lower
Go crazy!

Garment
Valkyrie Manteau or Morrigane's Manteau
Raydric card(s)
Chocos
Deviling card (not useful against wizards)[/shadow]

Armour
Valkyrie Armour/Theif Clothes
Tao Gunka card
Angeling card
Orc Lord card
Egnigem Cenia card
Ghostring card


Weapons
Left hand: Main Gauche [4]
Metalling card
Lord of Death card
Turtle General card
Hydra cards

Right hand:Main Gauche [4]
Thanatos card,
two Hydras
Turtle General


Shoes
Valkyrie Shoes/Sleipnir/Vidar's Boots
Moonlight flower (if not Sleipnir)
Amon Ra card
Dark Lord card
General Egnigem Cenia card

Accessories
Two Brinsingamens

Brinsingamnen #1
Creamy card
Errende Ebecee card
Horong Card
Wikenbine Tres card

Brinsingamnen #2
Four Yoyo cards

Now you're ready to make a decent SinX. I'm sure there's a lot of errors in the guide so if anybody can correct them or make better suggestions it would be appreciated. Please don't flame as this is my first guide.
S>Rock lol

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BaNiSHeDHeLL

In sunnies wouldn't you have Orc Hero card? No 'Stun' <3
Since as you stated, you can't have 90+ vit or you'll get killed from than users.

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finnith

^
I've never had anyone try to stun me on a high-rate, so I don't think it's too useful
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Ragaroah

I just get a base of 100 vit anywhere I play, helps alot :)

NikitaDarkstar

Err Ok I'm not exactly a high rate player (mor low and mid) but max LUK on a Dagger sin? Come on are you out of your mind or something? Luk is for katar users, not dagger users (crits overrides doubble attack and doubble attack+offhand outdamages crits..)... and then dex, crits overrides flee and def so the only thing you really need dex for is to hit decently with skills.. but on monsters 30'ish dex is usually enough.. the skill that tends to need dex the most for a sinX in my opinion is sonic blow, which is a skill dagger wielders don't use anyway...

So well yhea, jsut a few questionmarks here.. but as I said I don't have much HIGH rate experience, but I have been around RO ans sins for long enough to realise that some things sounds odd here.

Alucardlied

Quote from: NikitaDarkstar on Jul 07, 2007, 06:23 PM
Err Ok I'm not exactly a high rate player (mor low and mid) but max LUK on a Dagger sin? Come on are you out of your mind or something? Luk is for katar users, not dagger users (crits overrides doubble attack and doubble attack+offhand outdamages crits..)... and then dex, crits overrides flee and def so the only thing you really need dex for is to hit decently with skills.. but on monsters 30'ish dex is usually enough.. the skill that tends to need dex the most for a sinX in my opinion is sonic blow, which is a skill dagger wielders don't use anyway...

So well yhea, jsut a few questionmarks here.. but as I said I don't have much HIGH rate experience, but I have been around RO ans sins for long enough to realise that some things sounds odd here.

+luk = +flee
no luk = miss miss miss miss

that's simple = )

Infection

Quote from: NikitaDarkstar on Jul 07, 2007, 06:23 PM
Err Ok I'm not exactly a high rate player (mor low and mid) but max LUK on a Dagger sin? Come on are you out of your mind or something? Luk is for katar users, not dagger users (crits overrides doubble attack and doubble attack+offhand outdamages crits..)... and then dex, crits overrides flee and def so the only thing you really need dex for is to hit decently with skills.. but on monsters 30'ish dex is usually enough.. the skill that tends to need dex the most for a sinX in my opinion is sonic blow, which is a skill dagger wielders don't use anyway...

So well yhea, jsut a few questionmarks here.. but as I said I don't have much HIGH rate experience, but I have been around RO ans sins for long enough to realise that some things sounds odd here.
You're forgetting something. :]

200 Luk on DD SinX with x2 Fortune Swords = Alot of perfect dodge to not get hit by nearly every sinx.

Top - Poopoo/Feather Beret/Drooping Alice

Mid - Sunnies with Grand Peco card. [ Auto Cast Gloria - +30 Luk ftw? ^^ ] or Dark Illusion.

Lower - Anything.

Cloak - Chung E

Armor - Tao/Angeling/Bathory/OL

Weapons - x2 Fortune Swords/Combat Knife/x2 Main Gauche [ TG+TG+Paper+Paper - TG+Assaulter+Paper+Paper ]

Boots - Amon Ra, Firelock, Dark Lord

Accessorys - Womans Glory, Brisingamen, Wikibine Necklace, Celebration Rings, Megs, Crit rings, the sign.
sup.

NikitaDarkstar

Yes but why make a DD then? Why not make it a katar sin and get away from the dual wielding aspd pentaly (ok not really a problem on highrates.. but meh)? Also with katars you can take advantage of sonic blow and grimthooth, something you can't with daggers.

I see the point in the build, I just think it's more usefull with katars than daggers as you're going to crit like all hell with this build anyway, which means to point of the DD is gone (as the point is doubble hit + off hand hit = more damage that crit hits), and if you're actually using daggers and not swords (which seems to be quite poplar among some servers)  you have to deal with the whole "dmg penatly against medium and large", which takes a few weapon slots to fix.

The only point I see with a DD with this build is it's possible to have a decent amount of weapon slots, but if you're using 2x fortune sword thats also gone... so yhea, give me one good reason to use daggers instead of katars with this build?

As for the gear, well it depends on the server but personally I found this set quite usefull.

Headgear top: evil snake lord
Mid: don't remember some status card anyway.
Lower: Lord Knight card.
Garment: +7 (or +10 if you can safley overup) valkyrie manteau with a raydric card
Armour: (I had a two slot): garm and orc lord
Weapon (four slot katar): bloody knight, garm baby, bapho, soldier skeleton
Boots: Amon Ra
Accessorys: 2x Mejingard

Ofcourse that was a highly customized server, but belive me that worked nicley.. oh and I did mess aroound with a thanathos card on my weapon also, but ofcourse that didn't work well as that card dosn't mix well with crits... but a DD that dosn't crit with a thana card or two will hurt like all hell... and thana + edp + frenzy will pretty much rip anything apart... but ofcourse it depends on how easy those thigns are to get.

But I still say that your build looks more like a katar build that a DD build. (Sadly I can't test it cause my current servers max stats goes to 120 :P)

Infection

Quote from: NikitaDarkstar on Jul 15, 2007, 10:25 AM
Yes but why make a DD then? Why not make it a katar sin and get away from the dual wielding aspd pentaly (ok not really a problem on highrates.. but meh)? Also with katars you can take advantage of sonic blow and grimthooth, something you can't with daggers.

I see the point in the build, I just think it's more usefull with katars than daggers as you're going to crit like all hell with this build anyway, which means to point of the DD is gone (as the point is doubble hit + off hand hit = more damage that crit hits), and if you're actually using daggers and not swords (which seems to be quite poplar among some servers)  you have to deal with the whole "dmg penatly against medium and large", which takes a few weapon slots to fix.

The only point I see with a DD with this build is it's possible to have a decent amount of weapon slots, but if you're using 2x fortune sword thats also gone... so yhea, give me one good reason to use daggers instead of katars with this build?

As for the gear, well it depends on the server but personally I found this set quite usefull.

Headgear top: evil snake lord
Mid: don't remember some status card anyway.
Lower: Lord Knight card.
Garment: +7 (or +10 if you can safley overup) valkyrie manteau with a raydric card
Armour: (I had a two slot): garm and orc lord
Weapon (four slot katar): bloody knight, garm baby, bapho, soldier skeleton
Boots: Amon Ra
Accessorys: 2x Mejingard

Ofcourse that was a highly customized server, but belive me that worked nicley.. oh and I did mess aroound with a thanathos card on my weapon also, but ofcourse that didn't work well as that card dosn't mix well with crits... but a DD that dosn't crit with a thana card or two will hurt like all hell... and thana + edp + frenzy will pretty much rip anything apart... but ofcourse it depends on how easy those thigns are to get.

But I still say that your build looks more like a katar build that a DD build. (Sadly I can't test it cause my current servers max stats goes to 120 :P)
Err, Judging by your weapon cards I take it you're an int based sinx?

Bloody Knight=Meteor storm. Baphomet is splash damage(Only works if you're fighting 2 people).

Hmm, Thanatos doesn't stack.

All the enemy has to do is just use frenzy back and you'll do 1~15 damage.
sup.

NikitaDarkstar

Well we had 255 max stats at that server so I had around 100+50 int.. but I mainly used it for the stun all around.. and thanathos did stack there (or someone just thought it was a good idea).. but then that most likley was a bug then.. honestly the only time I fiddeled with that card.. .. downside with highrates, stuff never work quite the same over all servers. :P

janor1

Stupid guide /sob this is my sinx DxD






  Stat- str max - agi max vit - 1 int- max dex - max luk - max .

Equip - Head upper - ( Lord kaho horn - Str+5 agi+ 5 luk+ 20 vit+ 5)-Orc hero C. - Maya P - Dark Illu -X
   Mid-Blank
    Down- Blank

  Weapon- Combat knife(just like an ice pick more def more dmg=10% dmg to human) Double TG - hydra - ~LOD
   Weapon 2 - Grimtoth - SK Card - Metaling card - WS Card - TG card
 
  Armour - Valkyrie armour [  4  ] GR-Taox - ED - Garm
  Shoes - Sleipnir [4] Dark-Lord - Matyr cardx3
   Valkrie Manteu - Double Raydric C . Double Noxius ( Reduce From long Range dmg 20%)
   i use double megs  = str+40

  Megs1 - Olw duke , owl Baron . Wind-Autocast jt-3 , Sight
  Megs 2 - Quad Mantis card


thats my sinx in H Rate
Im still looking for server D

Kirlay

This would be pretty easy for me since Im currently playing a server with 100% drops ;o
If life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.

Recent studies show 3/4 is 75%
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artofninjutsu

I`ll share to all of you a secrete that we discovered locng ago
To all sinx out there try this

-Use a Dual Dagger with at least 1 Injustice Card
-Have a Soulinker SL you with Six Spirit
-your stat must nut be a crit type
-you have to max your attackspeed
-use Enchant D P

*Now Try It
*The SL doubles the damage of your  auto-SB
*Probably berrer if you have a Ring Of Double-Powered(Owl Duke Card)

                                                                        !!!***Make Sure Your Stat and Equips makes you crit less***!!!
                                                                                                      ::)           ::)                      ::)

keheng

I m A SBK Sin. Kiel Card is enuf for all

Littlechan

Quote from: keheng on Aug 29, 2008, 09:47 AM
I m A SBK Sin. Kiel Card is enuf for all


try to kill paladin with GTB+defender aura+ noxious card


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rainrofever

is it cool if i used 2 bapho's 2 dopple 2 injustice and 2 phreeoni in my 2 +10 main gauches??

Littlechan

Quote from: rainrofever on Dec 27, 2008, 12:51 PM
is it cool if i used 2 bapho's 2 dopple 2 injustice and 2 phreeoni in my 2 +10 main gauches??

what's the purpose of using 2 dopple, since one is enough already? XD


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rainrofever


espada088


la bella vita

I have a SinX in a High Rate server which also happens to use a double daggers. Main gauche [4] to be specific. However, my build is kinda far from what has been said here.

As of now, my character's build is:
STR - 255 + 10 (Maxed out)
AGI - 130 + 15
VIT - 153 + 3 (Where the rest of my stat points go)
INT - 1
DEX - 90 + 12
LUK - 1

What kind of SinX do I have? And.. I'd like to ask for suggestions for its equips. Help is much needed here, honestly. Thank you to all those who'd answer!  ;)

espada088

sinx must use wat eq and card to break the emp??~

Sarin

emp is holy, small, angel. So specialized cards against that. Do a little search to find them.

espada088

so i must use holy weapon to break the emp??

Omi

no, you can use any element other than holy, but shadow will do the most damage.

espada088

ohh shadow element ea~
thx!
dat mean i must equip my +10 grimtooth with shadow element rite??~

Littlechan

Quote from: espada088 on Jan 05, 2009, 07:22 AM
ohh shadow element ea~
thx!
dat mean i must equip my +10 grimtooth with shadow element rite??~

well, that's one of option

otherwise, you can use card that give bonus damage to holy element ^^


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espada088

oke2~
if i equip my armor with element type~
does it affect the emp too?

Littlechan

Quote from: espada088 on Jan 05, 2009, 07:32 AM
oke2~
if i equip my armor with element type~
does it affect the emp too?

If I recall correctly, no. it just change your element (so enemy will do more/less damage to you, according to your element)


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