Looking for a new (fair) home

Started by thebowgal, Feb 03, 2022, 05:52 PM

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thebowgal

Hey guys, how you doing?
I just made this account to ask for a bit of help. I reeeeaallly wanna get back to RO but I haven't really found a place to call home this time  /sob

Things that are absolutely game killer for me are: CASH SHOP & MULTI CLIENT

I don't really mind any of the rest, but these two things destroy the game for me. Are there any servers that have no cash shop and no multi client? Or am I just aiming too high?
*The cash shop annoys me when they sell anything that gives an advantage above those that don't use real money to get it (even small "convenience" items, like infinite pots or flywings...) if it is 100% costumes ONLY I could make an exception.
But the multi client thing I can't stand... it just destroys the game in every aspect (in my opinion).

Servers I have tried so far:
-NovaRO: I played this for two years, but now I simply cannot get back into it, too much has changed and the ecconomy went to s***.
-Travels: please adm fake accounts, don't come here to suggest it to me again xD
-OathRO: it's the one I am currently trying for the last couple of days, it's pretty close to what I would love to stay in permanently, but I am afraid for the server's future since I have no idea if they will add a cash shop (most likely yes...) and those x1 rates makes leveling up soooo boring, specially since all parties just stay on one spot and spam skills like bots. Also Payon is the main city, that is a big insult for classic Ragnarok... No one even visits Prontera there!

Sooo, is there any hidden gem that I don't know about? I just wanted to enjoy the game in a fair enviromment, where I could level up and buy things that doesn't cost 100kkk or try to kill a mvp without having to compete with a dude's 10 slave accounts he uses for buffs and another dude that got a full set of gear with absurd status using his credit card...



PS. I have nothing against donations and I understand it helps keep the servers alive, but cash shops with better itens than ingame are not just donations...

distilled1

Well according to OathRO's website:
"Cash shops and other paid-for benefits will be extremely limited, if ever added as the purpose of the game should be play to win and not pay to win."
Seems you don't need to worry too much there, but I suppose it's always possible that it could begin selling things which give slight conveniences.

Regarding the boring party play where people stand in one spot, well, I don't know what to tell you other than that's kind of Ragnarok online in a nutshell lol.
It's why I honestly stopped playing. It's quite a boring game at the end of the day. The combat just isn't that fun.
Neither is WoW but I find it at least a slight step up. If you want a good WoW private server recommendation, I recommend https://vanillaplus.org/

All in all, I gotta say, Bow Gal, you have good taste to dislike multi-clienting and cash shops. Hope you find something fun you enjoy long-term.

EDIT:
I forgot to mention that this exists as well but I don't know if they even advertise or what their population is like:
https://333thats3threes.com/
Some obscure ragnarok online server which has the following rates:

    7x Base/Job EXP
    2.5x Quest EXP
    35x Drops (logarithmically scaled)
    1x MVP rewards/cards

It also says "Multi-clienting is prohibited, and monetary donations are not accepted."

Could check that out.
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

thebowgal

Hey! Thanks for replying :)

The part that makes me hesitant is "Cash shops and other paid-for benefits will be extremely limited, if ever added" that sounds like a plan to add it eventually... I hope I am wrong, but I wouldn' be surprised if they add it.

That server you mentioned sounds super shady xD haha unless someone can vouch for it, that site made me a bit uneasy about it.


And about leveling, I honestly enjoy doing it solo or duo so you walk around the map killing stuff as you see them, when you get a full party and stay at one spot it becomes terrible. /swt

Sairek Ceareste

Hiya! It's me Sairek, from OathRO.


We don't plan to ever add a cash shop to OathRO unless the server goes into financial crisis. That's basically a last resort thing. I've spoken to Oathkeeper about this before when we were setting up the server during the alpha. In the case of dire needs of funds, the first attempt to get funds from the community would be to make community driven goals (think ideas like floating rates that benefit everyone on the server regardless if you pay or not) and if that doesn't get the server out of financial trouble, then we'd do something that is purely cosmetics that offers gameplay benefits if community driven goals didn't pan out.

Regardless, we don't plan to ever add anything that would affect the gameplay that gives one player advantages over another player (Oathkeeper doesn't want to and I wouldn't allow him /heh), and as of right now the server is still in good financial standing even though Oathkeeper is paying for everything out of pocket, though the recent crypto market crash has left a scratch on that side of server funds, it is not the only thing keeping the server afloat. We still have enough cash to keep paying for advertising and have we have next month's banner ad already paid for and made for season 1 of War of Emperium. /ok


For the whole mobbing meta, we've been talking some possible ideas we could do to shake things up a little bit without necessarily punishing people who want to play that way, but nothing has been set in stone yet. As was stated earlier, it's kind of an RO thing so we don't want to remove it or punish people for doing it, but I agree it can be a little boring when it is woefully the more efficient option to anything else. It's a thing we need to carefully consider and balance.

ac195

I would recommend our server that will be entering beta in a few weeks, ExcelRO.
I am not sure how you feel about low rate servers (1x1x1x is our tentative rates), but we are soon releasing our server for beta. Here's some of our main things:
Our server is based off the community - community representatives and votes lead our direction as long as it doesn't break the overall vision of the server
Rates, dual client, and quality of life features are currently on the polls.
NO p2w at all, cash shop and voting/donation rewards are simply cosmetic.
This server is paid for by myself as a hobby, it will remain open and will not close as long as there are people playing it. I have no intention to open a server to make money.
more information on our website - www.excelragnarokonline.com

Let me know if you got questions

thebowgal

Hello!!!
Its really nice to hear about this! That is probably a good thing to add to the server description, I bet it would put some more people at ease as well.  /kis

To be completely honest with you, I really enjoy the server, but two little things are ruinning the original ragnarok experience to me (besides that is perfect)... the fact that the names and guilds are inverted in order (shouldn't it be the char name on top and guild name below? And showing the group name would be nice too) and Prontera not being the main city  /wah
I mean, Payon is nice and all, but its not the same... specially since its not even the original payon map. When I first got into the server I went to Prontera to check out the population as I usually do on new servers and it was empty, I thought the server was completely dead until someone told me it was not the usual hang out place. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that felt that way, I've seen the same question on chat a few times.
Thats my two suggestion, maybe you guys could consider it pretty please?

About mobbing, its just that we lack options I think, I have nothing against people that like that kind of thing, but perhaps some more alternatives are needed, like everyone stays on iron fist then go to seals because the exp is good and the loot sells well, maybe we need more monster that offers that too to spread out a bit (that could even already be in the game but I have no way of knowing due to lack of information to the average player).

Neffletics

Hello!

You might want to try SolaceRO. We're a low-rate server that doesn't support dual logging. We do have a cash shop, but it's well-balanced, with mostly cosmetics and low-level essentials like battle manuals. We have a unique party leveling system that discourages leeching, so people at level 70 and up are actually partying together. The main economic driver is the War of Emperium, and the economy is doing well, with inflation at a manageable level. Players can farm 1 million zeny per hour, and high-end items cost between 30 and 60 million zeny per piece. Players who play more on our server are stronger than those who pay more.

Also...


  • Our Prontera is crowded
  • Payon is also crowded
  • Morroc is slightly crowded

Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_fNVJ_SQ6w&ab_channel=SolaceRO
Migration program: https://www.solaceragnarok.com/migration-program/
solacero rip

Oathkeeper

Regarding the Cash Shop question on OathRO, my plan is not to add anything ever that would impact play. At this time I have no plans to implement any real money shops or donations. However, if something is offered in the future it will be strictly limited to a costume hat or something. Under no circumstance would I ever add something that has stats associated with it or provides an advantage to experience / item gain. Financially, the server is just fine and we're able to meet our monthly expenses of approximately $1,200 without much trouble given the funds I set up prior to the server's release. I of course wouldn't turn away someone who was hellbent on donating to the server, but it is not my focal point as I have enough fun with it that the investment is more like an investment into a hobby for me.

skyeang3l

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Quote from: thebowgal on Feb 04, 2022, 07:53 AM
the fact that the names and guilds are inverted in order (shouldn't it be the char name on top and guild name below? And showing the group name would be nice too)

Using /showname should fix this btw.
Yare yare daze~

BaphometRag

Travels is my favorite now. I think the Oath is too customized. Hope you find what youre looking for

Shuchou

Quote from: thebowgal on Feb 04, 2022, 07:53 AM
Hello!!!
Its really nice to hear about this! That is probably a good thing to add to the server description, I bet it would put some more people at ease as well.  /kis

To be completely honest with you, I really enjoy the server, but two little things are ruinning the original ragnarok experience to me (besides that is perfect)... the fact that the names and guilds are inverted in order (shouldn't it be the char name on top and guild name below? And showing the group name would be nice too) and Prontera not being the main city  /wah
I mean, Payon is nice and all, but its not the same... specially since its not even the original payon map. When I first got into the server I went to Prontera to check out the population as I usually do on new servers and it was empty, I thought the server was completely dead until someone told me it was not the usual hang out place. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that felt that way, I've seen the same question on chat a few times.
Thats my two suggestion, maybe you guys could consider it pretty please?

About mobbing, its just that we lack options I think, I have nothing against people that like that kind of thing, but perhaps some more alternatives are needed, like everyone stays on iron fist then go to seals because the exp is good and the loot sells well, maybe we need more monster that offers that too to spread out a bit (that could even already be in the game but I have no way of knowing due to lack of information to the average player).

There are a number of servers that have different main towns, however with there being 150-170 players I think payon fits the needs to make it look lively instead of just using a small area on a large map that is otherwise empty. I am sure once the player base grows to where payon can no longer handle it the main town will be changed, considering it was the player base that picked payon as the main town not the devs.

thebowgal

Ohh I see. I haven't considered that, maybe in the future there is hope for Prontera then xD

Runik

I'm really glad you posted this question, because I have exactly the same desires for a server. I'll poke my head into some of the servers listed here, though. tbh, I would love to find a place like EuphRO or EternityRO. Those were the closest thing to perfect lowrates...just that pesky multiclient nonsense...and the sketchy as heck gm business...

Dunno if you tried it, but Asgard Legends is a really good server. It's been highly modified (in a great way!), but it might be too different from what folks like you and I are used to to hang out there long-term. I played there and made a few characters. It was REALLY fun, but Izlude is the main city last a checked ^^;; After a while I would stop because it felt like I was playing some off-brand RO - Delicious, but missing "something" that the original has.

https://www.asgardlegend.com/

If you find something that hits all the notes, please post! I'll happily give almost any place a shot.

thebowgal

I tried Asgard too, and while it's nice it is something else indeed.
I have been speaking to some of my friends that also play Ragnarok from time to time and coincidentaly one of them had been jumping from server to server just last month, and he told me something that stuck on my mind.

The sad truth is that the old Ragnarok that I (and probably many others) are looking for will never exist again  /sob
The game is all about people, if you don't have enough players the economy is non existent, you can't do many things solo and then the server is dead...
And that is exactly what has been happening for years to a lot of servers, it doesn't really matter that the sever is good and brings back the nostalgia, with so little people playing, it doesn't survive. I wish we could bring all the old players to one decent server and keep them there, but I think there is little chance of that...

I ended up getting back to NovaRO... It's the completely opposite of what I was wanting, but my friend is right, Nova has a lot of people (if it's a good or bad server is another matter entirely) and that keeps it alive, there is always someone to party up and help, the chat is alive and there is people everywhere.
I shared with this friend how I was kinda afraid to invest my time on newer classic servers that has like 150 or less people on, despite how good they were, because eventually they all die out and you just wasted time, and from both our experience, unfortunately that's what happens  /wah

If there is by any miracle a hidden gem that I am not aware of, please do share, but I kinda of lost hope at this point... Nova has a lot of custom stuff and its faaar from what I was longing for, but despite it all, I wanted to get back to the game, and if you can't beat them, join them, I guess...
I've been playing at their x1 rate, avoiding the warpers and healers and just leveling up with what I can get on the way (despite having a big storage with A LOT of valuable gear that I had from when I last played 2 years ago). It's not ideal, but it's what I have left from a 20 years old game at this point.

yozzyurubuza

Quote from: thebowgal on Feb 03, 2022, 05:52 PM

Sooo, is there any hidden gem that I don't know about?

I don't know why you ignored the other guy's post from above, but please do try SolaceRO.  /no1

https://www.solaceragnarok.com/

thebowgal

Err... doesn't solaceRo has a cash shop with some pretty op items including a vip system?
I saw the cash shop description on another thread, so no thanks /??

Neffletics

Quote from: thebowgal on Feb 10, 2022, 11:29 AM
Err... doesn't solaceRo has a cash shop with some pretty op items including a vip system?
I saw the cash shop description on another thread, so no thanks /??

Most cash shop items in SolaceRO provide only minor benefits such as increased experience or movement speed. Most, if not all, of Solace's donors do not dominate any of our competitive events (WoE, PVP). Essentially, the cash shop is only there to keep the server sustainable (e.g. paying for ads, cash prizes, and freelancers).

Nonetheless, thank you for checking us out.
solacero rip

Lai

Limit Ragnarok :)

1 PC 1 Client <3
We also have Zeny to Cash Point feature :)

I call my server Double P2W.
Play 2 Win or Pay 2 Win :)

ac195

Movement speed is definitely a turnoff for something that VIPs and donations can get. It is better to keep it an even playing field imo.
To your point, yes investing time especially on a low rate server could be for nothing. However, with this mentality, no one will give any new server a try.

My opinion, do your research on new servers and don't settle. Just make sure you find one that's worth the risk.

BaphometRag

Quote from: Lai on Feb 12, 2022, 11:36 AM
I call my server Double P2W.
Play 2 Win or Pay 2 Win :)
What does that mean?

dikapramantya

I know about your problem. So i'm here to give you suggest to play my servers.
My server has created for Players doesn't need PLAY HARD, GRIND HARD, NO FUN .

WE JUST PLAY AND FUN ..

Free cash point everyday, i just need your help to share in game activity everyday and i will give reward cash point everyday.

If you interest you can join our server from this portals : https://linktr.ee/eirragnarok

Thank you verymuch :)

Windy

Hello thebowgal,

I might have read your post a little late but my server will always open doors for players. It's low rate renewal server with 5x/5x/5x but quests rates are 25x because I encourage players to do quests. My cash shop and vote shop is still in the progress, still discussing with my team on items to include so to not break the game.

I am currently working with a streamer to help advertise the server, and we host weekly events if not more often.

Do join us, because we want you.

https://www.guild-ro.com/?module=account&action=create

This is my roadmap of the server:
- Browser mode (mac compatible, does not require installation)
- Android apk file (playing does not get anymore convenient on your smartphone, for players who vend or various other purposes)
- 4th jobs, extended 3rd jobs and skill balance (our ultimate goal would be including 4th jobs with balancing in terms for PvM and WoE so it does not feel too overpowering)