RetRO a server that I considered the best but can't recommend anymore (review)

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Shuchou

Quote from: lungo on Sep 21, 2021, 04:23 PM
https://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-reviews/retro-a-server-that-i-considered-the-best-but-can't-recommend-anymore-(review)/msg202398/#msg202398

Due to you not having any solid euRO official proof that it wasn't intended and can only post cut outs of the players OPENLY talking with the staff and community why it should be changed. An announcement about this was posted by the staff the day before your cut outs, as stated by the staff it was how the Aegis server for episode 6 had slave mobs set and they are following that servers settings. So not a group of players told the staff to make a change to help them, even in your cut outs Azsura said they spent three weeks leveling a character to 91, but if they WOULD have used the newly found method would have only took two hours.



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lungo

Quote from: Shuchou on Sep 21, 2021, 04:57 PM
Due to you not having any solid euRO official proof that it wasn't intended and can only post cut outs of the players OPENLY talking with the staff and community why it should be changed. An announcement about this was posted by the staff the day before your cut outs, as stated by the staff it was how the Aegis server for episode 6 had slave mobs set and they are following that servers settings. So not a group of players told the staff to make a change to help them, even in your cut outs Azsura said they spent three weeks leveling a character to 91, but if they WOULD have used the newly found method would have only took two hours.

I saw that announcement myself, there is nothing new there, this was the announcement they made when they decided to remove the Majorous exploit.

The fact of the matter is this was an "allowed" method that hurt the server integrity during the time it was allowed, there is proof of people using this methid to level up characters quickly in less than 2 hours, they themselves admit to this on the screenshots I have postes multiple times.
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And once again I post this:

https://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-reviews/retro-a-server-that-i-considered-the-best-but-can't-recommend-anymore-(review)/msg202398/#msg202398


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lungo

The ban has been applied to my account:



Any player that wants to play on this server or planned to should remember that demanding a fair game for everyone will get you banned, if you expose the staff of this server mistakes and blatant favoritism toward certain group of players you will get banned

You need to understand that this server from the beginning showed blatand favoritism to guilds and every desicion is made for the benefit of them, I never thought it would be to the level of covering up blatant exp exploits and banning honest players for asking for fair play, we all agreed on x1 rates server, we never agreed that it would be only for certain people and those abusers would get the benefit of exploiting the game with no consequences, in the end this hurts more the server than me, not only do this ban makes them look terrible on the eyes of the people but the exploiters they are protecting WILL destroy the server, mark my words, those people won't stop at this, they will do more damage and ultimately the server will die. It's already hard to make people play on x1 servers and will be more difficult for them to join this one after this post knowing that not only that they ban innocent people but they also protect exploiters.

I did what I had to do, from the beginning of creating this review I knew this was going to end like this, I knew the risks of exposing this situation, I'm no saint but I have certain degree of integrity and moral values that can't compromise for a game (a high seas server), I care for the server and I did what I had to do, it was never in my hands to make the change, I said that from the beginning I regret nothing, I would do this again, I would fight the fight again because just being quiet and compliant serves no purpose. I have nothing more to say or add, I know people will still come to justify this situation, it doesn't matter, the evidence is here, the facts are on my side and this is now truly the end, everyone should just move on but never forget this happened.

I am at peace.

BaphometRag

Hello I level many characters to 99 on bRO in past

Before rebirth classes a good exp rate for the normal character is 1 million exp hr and with the best gears and months of hard work some characters can get 2 million exp hr. 75 or 85 million exps was not possible. Getting 30 levels in just 1 hour is normally not possible even on 10x exp server and going level 60 to level 90 in 1 hour is not possible

I wouldnt play a server that take no action against player group who exploit

Shuchou

Quote from: lungo on Sep 21, 2021, 05:27 PM
The ban has been applied to my account:



Any player that wants to play on this server or planned to should remember that demanding a fair game for everyone will get you banned, if you expose the staff of this server mistakes and blatant favoritism toward certain group of players you will get banned

You need to understand that this server from the beginning showed blatand favoritism to guilds and every desicion is made for the benefit of them, I never thought it would be to the level of covering up blatant exp exploits and banning honest players for asking for fair play, we all agreed on x1 rates server, we never agreed that it would be only for certain people and those abusers would get the benefit of exploiting the game with no consequences, in the end this hurts more the server than me, not only do this ban makes them look terrible on the eyes of the people but the exploiters they are protecting WILL destroy the server, mark my words, those people won't stop at this, they will do more damage and ultimately the server will die. It's already hard to make people play on x1 servers and will be more difficult for them to join this one after this post knowing that not only that they ban innocent people but they also protect exploiters.

I did what I had to do, from the beginning of creating this review I knew this was going to end like this, I knew the risks of exposing this situation, I'm no saint but I have certain degree of integrity and moral values that can't compromise for a game (a high seas server), I care for the server and I did what I had to do, it was never in my hands to make the change, I said that from the beginning I regret nothing, I would do this again, I would fight the fight again because just being quiet and compliant serves no purpose. I have nothing more to say or add, I know people will still come to justify this situation, it doesn't matter, the evidence is here, the facts are on my side and this is now truly the end, everyone should just move on but never forget this happened.

I am at peace.

You were not banned for wanting fair game play but for misinforming, lying, insulting, and continuing when asked to stop doing so on discord and ingame. You disregarded the information the staff shared on the matter and what others players on the server and those on here that do not play on the server has told you. You clearly have set out on an agenda to try and harm the server yet failed, new players are joining the discord and installing the game asking for low level parties.

lungo

Quote from: Shuchou on Sep 21, 2021, 07:43 PM
You were not banned for wanting fair game play but for misinforming, lying, insulting, and continuing when asked to stop doing so on discord and ingame.

IM SORRY THIS IS JUST AN OUTRIGHT LIE!

I could not even write on discord (I had a limited role for months an agreement I got with the GM's because I like to debate and win debates, so people don't like that so in order to be allowed on discord I agreed to this, in fact I PROPOSED to be limited, only could write on the Market section), and NEVER IN GAME INSULTED ANYONE in fact NEVER brought this review subject to the game AT ALL!, this just completely shows you are an evil piece of work dude seriously.

I can not believe this people to outright make up lies like this.

If you want to keep defending the exploit, be my guest but don't be a coward and an evil piece of work and outright lie like this.

lungo

Here is proof that I had a limited role and the GM'S agreed on this:

This one is from April, I lost my old Discord account and I instead of just going rogue making another one I TOLD THE HEAD ADMINISTRATOR that I did a new account due to losing my previous account, you know why? because I gave my word to them, yeah I have integrity, something a liar like you doesn't have.



This is the only time I wrote outside the market channels allowed for me and was when they introduced "threads" and just gave my opinion on an exp event thread, that was on August:


Ingame I have nothing to share because I never got into trouble with anyone or violated rules etc. One time a LONG time ago with my merchant said something that got me muted for an hour but that was me venting out (and what i said was directed at nobody in particular just wrote something in mayus in general chat complaining about aldebaran being the "main town")  but that was a long time ago and the only time I ever got muted.

I bet you don't even know what my character names are.

One thing I know is I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE OF YOUR CLAIM ABOUT ME BEING BANNED FOR INSULTING ON DISCORD AND INGAME ABOUT THIS REVIEW.


Go ahead, I am waiting.

InsomniacTV

To me it clearly looks like he was banned for exposing the heavy guild favoritism and the corrupt way this was handled

They should be focused on trying to fix the critical exp imbalance this created rather than trying to get people who write reviews on it... its not normal and it wasnt official. The server should be rolledback or wiped if they refuse to ban the people who kept abusing it

dahman

Quote from: lungo on Sep 21, 2021, 05:27 PM
I am at peace.

im not so sure about that tho.
i mean check how many hours each day you waste into that topic, all those emotions we can read through ur texts while ignoring facts based on fixed game mechanics and maths.
So many other ppls (not fresh accounts) that have tryed but failed to have a normal discussion in this thread.
as someone already said, this topic isnt really a review anymore but tends more to a rant.

and while noone else is complaining anymore, not on discord, not ingame, not here (instead of freshly made accounts each day that are highly suspect)
you are still trying hard to keep on going.
everyone is over it and we just keep on playing the game we all love.
why cant you make the same?

now its time to just play the game, on the new server that you have found, have fun, and THEN im sure you can find inner peace again.

there are bigger goals in life and decisions you can be proud of,  than trying to bash a server solo, while everyone else is lol'ing instead about this thread.


neethree

I really can't comprehend how many 'people' seem to be ignoring the explanations of official game mechanics to continue crying exploit to the point that I'm starting to think this is an organised smear campaign. I don't believe in good faith that this many people don't understand it.

Like clockwork, there's been a negative review from newly made accounts every day parroting the same fearmongering misinformation.

Bizarre.
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Rayeth

@lungo

You don't have to argue with these people. You can  tell from the replies that they don't even  know anything about how the classic ro works. You were presenting PROBLEMS and they obviously ignoring what you are saying and are taking it as an "attack" or "smear campaign." This is a review, where are the moderators? You are just not presenting one issue here but multiple problems and yet they are ignoring the facts. Obviously they will never get it because they don't know exactly how the game mechanics works, atleast from what I am saying from the replies. lol

lungo

Quote from: Rayeth on Sep 22, 2021, 04:01 AM
@lungo

You don't have to argue with these people. You can  tell from the replies that they don't even  know anything about how the classic ro works. You were presenting PROBLEMS and they obviously ignoring what you are saying and are taking it as an "attack" or "smear campaign." This is a review, where are the moderators? You are just not presenting one issue here but multiple problems and yet they are ignoring the facts. Obviously they will never get it because they don't know exactly how the game mechanics works, atleast from what I am saying from the replies. lol

Indeed, i was truly not going to answer anymore to anyone trying to come up once again with the same stuff I already explained dozens of times, there is hard evidence here, now if you believe this is an only me problem you should go to the review page on the main RMS page, many people have come to leave a review saying the same things i said, when reviews like this are fake the owners of the site delete them but those are not deleted yet so they truly are more people upset about this.

I just came because someone dared to outright lie about the motives of my ban, i can not just leave when someone outright lies about that, i came to present the proof that he was lying about this and see if he could actually back up his lies with evidence, he won't come back because it is impossible for him to present evidence of something that never happened, i never talked about any of the topics in this review on discord (i had limited role, couldn't type anything but the market section) or in-game i never violated any rules in game, this person doesn't even know what characters i owned. I just came for that.

I won't argue with the other ones, the other dude that says i am not at peace is wrong, i am at peace with this situation, time will set things straight and i did what I had to do, i don't regret anything.

Keep saying whatever you want, just don't make up lies please have the decency of that at least people.

neethree

Quote from: Rayeth on Sep 22, 2021, 04:01 AM
@lungo

You don't have to argue with these people. You can  tell from the replies that they don't even  know anything about how the classic ro works. You were presenting PROBLEMS and they obviously ignoring what you are saying and are taking it as an "attack" or "smear campaign." This is a review, where are the moderators? You are just not presenting one issue here but multiple problems and yet they are ignoring the facts. Obviously they will never get it because they don't know exactly how the game mechanics works, atleast from what I am saying from the replies. lol
To be fair, my reference about a smear campaign is the daily reviews all mimicking the same false claim of there being a bug/exploit that people abused for exp, a horrendous server destroying exploit equivalent to being on 50x rates and stuff like that. Without knowing the actual details, which have been explained further back.

OP made a majority fair and objective points, such as the defense bug, poor administration, and no one's arguing that.
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lungo

Quote from: neethree on Sep 22, 2021, 02:41 AM
I really can't comprehend how many 'people' seem to be ignoring the explanations of official game mechanics to continue crying exploit to the point that I'm starting to think this is an organised smear campaign. I don't believe in good faith that this many people don't understand it.

Like clockwork, there's been a negative review from newly made accounts every day parroting the same fearmongering misinformation.

Bizarre.

You don't play on the server, how do you know people are not genuinelly upset about this? have you talked to people about it? no. You keep talking about "official game mechanics" first you need to bring proof about this, you can not make a claim and then pretend we take it at face value, bring your data that people actually leveled like this in classic, using this clear exploit to level up characters in 1 hour, we would need some video or at least some screenshots of this happening.

Also, assuming this were the case and you brought your receits, your proof and you were correct, you know what else is classic behavior? multi accounts, bard and monks with accurate skills depending on episode, defense being reduced accordingly, magic defense working, only female wives giving SP, this will trigger you and many but there was also not male+male, female+female marriage, there was correct stun locking whenever you were hit, yeah it's awful and one of the reasons I didn't like TravelsRO but that is how it is supposed to be, there are many things that are "classic and official behavior" but are not implemented and there is GOOD REASON for that, this Majorous thing clearly hurt the server this should have been prevented.

There is no "smear campaing" is just people that are legit mad at this situation, like I said you don't even play there, you don't know how many people had quit over this. You know what a smear campaign is?: the one you engaged in with your friends (all of the people that is butthurt that i debated with them in the past and lost) comming here to attack my persona, mock me, manipulate my words, spam, incur in lies and fallacies or even post private information about myself. I talked to you privately, talk like adults and told you what you were doing was wrong and you insisted on being a low vindictive petty person, good thing the mods acted and deleted all you people smearing campaign.

neethree

Quote from: lungo on Sep 22, 2021, 10:35 AM
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I used to play on the server, I'm aware of the situation through reading Discord and seeing discussion from people who still play.
None of the people in this thread are my friends lol. I didn't bring anyone here.  I had a few PMs from people that recognised my sh!tposting and that's about it.  Just sticking my oar in a situation since I'm aware of the mechanics involved. Chill buddy.

FYI I guarantee people will still be making EXP on that sort of scale, even without Minos. 12 tappers and exp song putting all the exp on one character is insane as you can see. The guy even said earlier in the thread they're reaching similar exp/hr in magma post-mino 🤷
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