Oh lordy look what cakeRO has done now...

Started by chibizorpixie, Nov 10, 2006, 01:46 PM

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chibizorpixie

I've been playing on cakeRO for at least four months now... Made lots of great online friends and had even made good enough friends with people who had money for cake's neat donor items. I... until this point, loved cake to pieces and wouldn't play anywhere else. Once I had gotten high enough in the "social chain" if you will, I started seeing sights of the corruption for myself, but it wasn't all that terrible really... Some gm abuse but not a whole lot... it was dealable. (if I spelled that word right?)  I was good enough friends with people (not gm's) to where my entire set of equips were all donor items with donor cards. we're talking, hundreds of dollars of stuff that other people paid for so that I could compete with the higher end donors in woe and pvp.  I had my new stuff for roughly two days before the owner of cake, marsh, came into pvp and revoked everyone's donors that did not have paypal reciepts.

CakeRO rules state... (this is NOT verbatim... reader's digest version) "Giving donor items as gifts is permitted. The recipient must let Marsh know who gave it to them and what they gave."

Now anyone who played cake for a long time knows, that if you talk to marsh and you're not giving him any money, you get muted for hours on end. it's impossible to let him know ANYTHING. Over time, people donate, and then people quit. Some of my items were recieved as the result of people quitting. And I know NO ONE that is going to give an online friend their paypal reciepts or even think about giving it to them. Out of the 100+ people online last night, I counted 7 people with visible donors (ie wings and hats) SEVEN... (this is a DRASTIC drop from the usual 30-50)

My original thought was benefit of the doubt. "Oh, some gm is being a tard and giving out donors to their friends." After careful consideration, while that may happen... I came to a new conclusion. Marsh is a greedy *insert whatever insulting name you wish to insert here*.  All in all, he decided that he didn't want people paying for donors and giving them away. Because when that happens, only one person donates as opposed to two if they can't give their stuff away. I don't recommend donating to cake if you play on that server. As if you forget, and delete your inbox, all of your stuff will be gone forever. Whether you paid for it or it was a gift. A friend of mine lost a pair of 20$ wings he had paid for because he loaned them to a priest for ten minutes in pvp and then went out to get food.

It's been rumored that there will be an entire donor wipe. Also been rumored that if you can get whoever gave you your items to vouche for you, marsh will return them. (he supposidly put our names on a list but... I'm not sure how much I believe that at this point either.) However... be wary... because IF Marsh happens to come online... you'll more than likely just get muted for trying to speak to him without permission.

All in all, I won't continue to play on cakeRO unless my items are rightfully returned to me. And even then I doubt I'll stay for very long as I am looking for a new server.

wewt

devow

i havent been on cakero, but the actions of the owners are typical for many (or all?) servers, ie to make money. they usually start out innocently wanting to provide a server to play on (and ask for money for costs), but when they get to taste donations greed usually takes over them.

chibizorpixie

that really sucks... >_> I love hr servers, but the only ones that I have managed to find ALL have donor items or will be having them soon. And if they all turn out that way then I would really just rather not play ro... If anyone knows of a really awesome hr with little or no corruption please send it my way. I'd love to continue playing even if I do have to start over.

devow

if i remember qRO has a high rate (3k/3k/1k) that doesnt have god equips (kaho,mjo,meg,etc). last time i was on the most expensive was an SGH. pretty large number of players (800-1k). there are donations, but not sure what you get.

they are using freya, which they havent updated (freya is dead i think). so no ninja/gunslinger or other new updates.

Nish

If marsh was smart he would make ALL donation items undealable.. yes its possible to do that, niktout does it on nRO.

He sounds like one of many greedy money making Admin's out there, you gotta be careful these days.. Thats why i don't bother donating.

Raiku

#5
Wow that is so messed up. As for most things, greed comes kicking on once more. You should look for servers that usually have a donation system that doesn't revolve around omnipotent items, or at least, something to unbalance the game, which become unfair to other players.

yC

everywhere i heard the voice that ppl shouldn't and shouldn't be able to donate for POWER ... yet there are still ppl that donates ... sigh ... kids these days like to feed greedy server owners ... what can we do ? nothing.

pieman245

Wow...Just wow...If I had a server, I wouldnt have donater items. They make everything unbalanced and you have to be a donater to be high in the "social chain", or whatever...Ive tried hosting a server but I had no idea wtf to do....

Blandastig

yeah marsh drove me away from his server with his donor items, unavailability, and corruption

laecertus

if u want a balanced HR       go to http://trinity-ro.com/ the HR server kalel their are donations but it s only ""5$=4oca or 4opb"" :D

chibizorpixie

I want to thank everyone on their feedback. I will definitely be at least checking out the servers mentioned. I greatly appreciate the support of my complaining  ;D

Chaz

#11
I so agree with Pixie, I played on cakero for almost one year now, it was an great server, great community.
But several people (mostly gms) screwed it all up, I could've lived with some corrupt gms , but what Marsh did now is the dumbest mistake ever.
Hee wiped all , and the presents I got from several people all dissapeared my Kawaii ribbon and all my donor items , over 400-500$ gone from my account, if this is the way Marsh wants to get money , if this is the way he wants the server to be, then screw it all, I left cake, and with me many others did.
I've searched for an other server (low rate this time) and hope that it will turn out to be better then cake. (so far I've seen its way better <3 the community from Chronos RO) so this is the way I think about cakeRO now, I had great memories of it.. but now it sucks, thanks in advance for taking the time to read this message.

~Chaz,

Rumiko

Hi everybody~ I've been playing CakeRO since January of this year and only had a 1 month break. I want to agree with pixie just adding more stuff.

QuoteSome gm abuse but not a whole lot... it was dealable.

I find that quite wrong. There were lots in the old days by Himizu. Especially he cannot follow his own rules because for one he kept calling me an a****** and I'm not allowed to swear back. If I did I would've gotten banned.

QuoteNow anyone who played cake for a long time knows, that if you talk to marsh and you're not giving him any money, you get muted for hours on end. it's impossible to let him know ANYTHING.

I personally haven't gotten muted but I disagree on that because even if you donate and try to talk to marsh, he'll just dismiss you. It has happened to me many times before. But yes I do agree it is impossible to let him know anything too because it's like "oh I'm working on this your stuff will have to wait." He also complains if people ask the same question over and over but he doesn't realize each person is asking it only once. If the same person asked it over and over then I would understand why he would be getting annoyed.

QuoteMarsh is a greedy *insert whatever insulting name you wish to insert here*.  All in all, he decided that he didn't want people paying for donors and giving them away. Because when that happens, only one person donates as opposed to two if they can't give their stuff away. I don't recommend donating to cake if you play on that server. As if you forget, and delete your inbox, all of your stuff will be gone forever. Whether you paid for it or it was a gift. A friend of mine lost a pair of 20$ wings he had paid for because he loaned them to a priest for ten minutes in pvp and then went out to get food.

Indeed very greedy. I've donated $440 dollars to this server. After the wipe, I went to marsh to restore my items and I showed him the transaction numbers and he told me "oh I can't count the first one for $50 because our old paypal account got cancelled." Is it my fault it got cancelled? No but I still donated $50 to that account and so I could only get $390 worth of donations. Not only that but before, he gave bonuses for every $100 you donated. Now, there are absolutely none. Before the wipe, I had my fancy 4 slotted megingjards and sleipnirs with lots of custom cards and everything. Now, I only have 2 slotted megingjards and sleips and not nearly as many cards or equipment as I had before the wipe.

QuoteMy original thought was benefit of the doubt. "Oh, some gm is being a tard and giving out donors to their friends."

To show just how corrupt CakeRO is, there was a time when there were 2 guilds warring on CakeRO. Final Fox and then HoRD (House of Red Daggers and everybody else who hated Himizu and Momo (both corrupt GMs)). Himizu and Momo had given donations to lots of people in their guild Final Fox so they could kill the people who hated them and whoever they wanted to kill.

Another example would be Lovely. I'm not saying she's bad or anything but she hardly donated anything and got like every single donation there was. At least 30 of each custom card, lots of 4 slotted megingjards and 4 slotted sleipnirs each with different cards in them. And they were considered to be "Gifts from the GMs."

Lastly, I agree with pixie that I won't stay on CakeRO until everything of mine is returned to how it was before the wipe. But I doubt it. I really do have to say the best GM on CakeRO was Robochrist. But ever since he left, CakeRO was just horrible. ;s

Chaz

I totally agree with you too Rumiko , the wipe coused me to lose 4 slot sleipnir 2 exor cards 2 4slotted megs 1 fallen card, edp card , 2x crhon card, 3 wings, 2 slot armor, sketchy card, and all the even  items etc I had, but becouse I got all this stuff from several people as presents I lost it all,
mm I never saw Momo giving out donors to her guildmates, but I totallu hate the abusing of Kiba, he banned me for killing his legit account, he stole my donation items and was using them till the wipe.
besides  I 100% agree with you, Robo was the best gm ever and without him cake became sucky, Robo i miss you T_T

devow

someone i know got a gms paypal account suspended when he reported to paypal that he was a scammer.

but its always the donators fault in these cases. i mean.. cmon, 4s godly equips? thats a red flag right there. the server obviously is meant to make money for the gms.