NovaRO>>>>>smRO

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roin2k19

After playing on smRO for a few months I got turned off by the huge amount of MVP cards being distributed. Several players quit after the dumb exchange card album event. After writing my review the admin of smRO told me to join novaRO and what can I say... I followed the advice and it was a very good decision.

I was a bit sceptical starting on novaRO because of the influx of bad reviews on their review site many scoring overall below average but when I joined the server I really couldn't understand why...

Stability/Availability: 10/10

The server has crashed once in the 1-2 Weeks I've been playing and that was after a huge maintenance. Compared to that... smRO was crashing almost daily while I was still playing and people got compensated with unfair higher rates which just led to even more MVP cards being dropped. It's ridiculous.
My ping is very stable around 40 in novaRO, very smooth gameplay. I came back to RO this year after a 5 year break, back in the day crashing wasn't very rare and I thought it was still normal for servers to crash that frequently but being on novaRO now I think that smRO is just very behind in that aspect. There are also waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less bugs in novaRO, it seems smRO blindly copies rathena database and does not have kRO access to test things themselves.

Community:
8/10
It's obvious that there are a lot more players in novaRO than on my old server. There are roughly 2.2k people online(with vendors) and it's very easy to find leveling parties. Grandpa quest encourages party play to level and I really enjoyed being able to see other players on the map while I was farming for archer skeleton cards. Seeing others on fields happened very rarely in smRO but then again it only has a population of 400 of which roughly only 30% are actual players. NovaRO players are also very active on the support channel helping newbies when needed. The only issue I had was finding players for lower level instances like charleston because I wanted to get excellion, aside from that I'm very pleased though therefore the 8/10

Game Masters:
7/10

The Event GMs seem to be very active, there are GM hosted events like dodge bombporing and poring finder almost daily, and the GMs seem to enjoy hosting those, I really like GM Scout she's very kind :). What I didn't like so much is that for support questions, which cannot be solved by players, people are always referred to use discord to get in touch with the GMs... though once you PM there you get quite a quick reponse so it kinda works out in the end therefore 7/10

Game-play

This is where the biggest differences are:

Economy wise the server seems to be quite stable and the prices of lower end items like elven bow are very low so I could get one of these almost instantly after turning into a ranger. The cash shop is almost 90% the same as smRO and since novaRO is older I guess smRO took some "inspiration" from there and copied novaRO. Unfortunately, it seems to be quite hard to play for cash shop items yourself but there are active sellers almost 24/7 selling Nova Points at roughly 4.8m for 1000 points, it took me roughly an hour to get 18m by farming geffenia so it's not impossible but definitely harder. But honestly, the enriched materials dropped by the very custom world bosses in smRO aren't dropping sufficent materials either so in the end it's pretty much the same and not ideal on either side.  7/10

Guild competition:
That doesnt exist in smRO: pvp is non existent mostly due to the low population I think. In novaRO i played bg last night with 30 other players though I am still pretty undergeared and can't provide much use for my team  /wah 9/10

Class Balance:
6.5/10
I'm a ranger main and ranger is really strong here I think. I see issues with magic classes and people are complaining about these, which is... justified. There are no mdef pierce shadow sets or iRO accessories to help them and since most of the content has high mdef I feel magic classes are very lacking right now. Guild members told me that there is planning for some monster hunter franchise event where those will be available in 1-2 months. So I will use my ranger for PvM for now.

Overall I am pretty satisfied right now and I thank Lunar for referring me to this amazing server.

Final words:
As I mentioned before, at first I was sceptical about joining novaRO because of all the negative reviews but I think the problem lies within RMS not controlling obvious hater reviews. At the moment reviews do not exist to rate servers but to actually damage them and spreading lies as seen in this very example.

One last thing I want to bring up is that as mentioned by the last smRO review, the youtuber munbalance being on smRO seems to be a big issue and eyesore to many players as he controls the administration(the admin seems to be one of his twitch mods) and likes to break the market by suggesting events. He is aware of this fact and his status and enjoys abusing it:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/223457847571251211/572847778124922889/unknown.png

He seems to be the reason the server has been going down hill for the past few weeks/months

As written by other ex players there is a referral system and this guy gets 10% of all donations being made through his youtube link which is so unfair. It's borderline corruption and gives him such a huge advantage over other players

Overall I'm just happy I left this sinking ship and found a new home.

Lunar@SM

He said there was an event like that, yes. So we checked and confirmed it existed and made it based on how it exists in kRO. Every 3 months for 1 week.
The referral system has been out nearly a year before Munbalance even joined, with the only difference that he's the first person really using it.

Meaning he makes videos, advertises the server and people register through his referral link. The Referee gets rewards and the person referring.
Exists everywhere in the world aswell as in several other RO servers.

Instead of being jealous, how about you put them actual work into playing yourself?

So, now to the rest.
The crash causes were all resolved and it hasn't crashed in nearly a week now.

Anyway, good luck in NovaRO.
Shining Moon Servers:
Helheim - kRO-like official gears. Max Level 200/70
Niflheim - jRO, iRO and kRO gears. Max Level 200/70

https://www.shining-moon.com

cyanish

This is looking more like a rant over Shining Moon, over exaggerated to Nova RO's side, or you just played it for a really small time.

Stability/availability:
NovaRO was way better than SM in Helheim launch, but Shining Moon is right there as the stability got way better after the world gate stuff was removed, I saw the server crashing in a few occasions after that.

Community:
Shining Moon is way way better imo, the party loot system make you be able to invite people in party for anything, kill count without being in screen is a nice QoL too, less leveling parties but because of the rate, but for everything else you can make parties, in Nova what party you'll see besides gramps and bio5(not sure about this one, as new content is illusion dungeons and people will need to solo it)?
I used to see a few Charlestons and that rare ET/EC party besides that, but that's it. I disagree in the population, SM has way less merchants/active players than Nova.

Game Masters:
The event GMs are almost bots that only run a command to start a pre made event, this is because they're players so they lack a personality in the GM account, as they talk in Discords too and etc with their player account, GM Scout is new from the time I used to play I suppose, there was a GM Pancakes before that was the best GM imo(comparing both servers), both servers do a way of splitting GMs from administration so these GMs have less power what is how it should be, and they all give support, so can't really say much about this, but in SM they look more "free", still being GMs tho.

Gameplay:
I agree that this is where the biggest differences are, in Nova when a new content comes the economy f*cks itself, I remember +15 BxB from 1~1.3b dropping quickly to 700m when BIO5 came(I wonder if the Event GMs have the info of when new content will be added), this doesn't happen in SM as there's more gears to pick from and it's easier to refine, that kind of price drop is nothing for someone who sell stuff from cash shop for zeny, but for free to play players it is a lot.
Refinement in NovaRO is way way way more unrewarding and unsatisfying, you only have that "Old Enriched" oridecon and elunium that is in SM and the main source for that being the cash shop, BSB will come only in Q2(and believe in me, but FAW too) and who knows the sacrifice that will be to get one. Also the materials drop from Lucky3 and other ways in Shining Moon, and by the price it's way easier to refine.

Guild competition:
Yes SM pvp/woe is still growing for now, there's some plans for it in the Discord channel but I didn't see anything new, but in Nova, you played bg, WoE consists in 1~2 guilds - I believe there's a new third one -  killing themselves and some newbies, because they give costume rewards for participating, the newbies or PVM players go there for the rewards, camp entrance and become memes in the WoE community, very very competitive, also check in forums to see how the same dominant guild can pass stupid suggestions and reject others.

Class balance:
Now with sharp shooting buffed I believe, you'll only play ranger, there's no gear for x build, no gear for y build, no gear for anything, just the most OP build for that content update can be played because simply anything else is way way weaker, when I was playing it was just doram, people used to do LFMs like: Recruiting Cat for bio5, now it'll be only sharp shooting ranger. Do you want to play Warlock? Forget it, Sharp Shooting! Oh you want to play PVM SC? Are you crazy? Sharp Shooting! Today, tomorrow and in the another day too  /ok

Basically you'll only see the problems with that server when you reach the end game, poor refine system, a very small amount of gears to pick from, that completely kills the game class balance, delayed updates, removal of some kRO cash shop gears, which creates a balance that doesn't really reflect kRO and we go on, oh there's also some items being edited to be nerfed, almost forgot that. I have nothing against your review, it's just a critique(as allowed in this forum, I talked about multiple points, but it's not another review lul), I'd love to see a review after you get to the end game.

Mun suggested a event that is in kRO and we got it, what happens is that in the first days people that already had tons of card used them all and we got more MvP cards there, the event implementation was really close to when it was approved and it will happen from a certain period to another(as it is in kRO), even if it were approved because Mun is Mun, what isn't the case, it would s*** but this but I'd still prefer that than the favoritism of older players and the dominant WoE guild.

tl;dr From the "sinking ship" to the sinked ship, wait for the end game

But yes, good luck in Nova, enjoy your stay! Best hopes for your future sharp shooting ranger pew pew pew.

ivianna98

Finally someone said it.
It thought I would finally have a slower pace SM but I'm sitting here waiting for something to do, there's no challenge whatsoever on this server, how is it different from Nif on this department, aside from being "locked to kRO"? At least there I can really experiment and have real fun

Server crashed so much compensation poring became a meme and sure, it's better now but still bad. Lunar addresses it quickly, but it's f annoying when it happens.
Pvp/Woe/BG does not exist and who knows how much time it will take to get it done, Lunar is hardworking, but he's a one-man-show running this server.

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Class balance:
Now with sharp shooting buffed I believe, you'll only play ranger, there's no gear for x build, no gear for y build, no gear for anything, just the most OP build for that content update can be played because simply anything else is way way weaker, when I was playing it was just doram, people used to do LFMs like: Recruiting Cat for bio5, now it'll be only sharp shooting ranger. Do you want to play Warlock? Forget it, Sharp Shooting! Oh you want to play PVM SC? Are you crazy? Sharp Shooting! Today, tomorrow and in the another day too  /ok
Idk how it is there, but how it is any different than reaper is now?

I joined Hel primarily to see what does kRO really looks like and why some many people have a fetish for it, while bashing things like jRO gears and such, still can't understand why as it is just as unbalanced.

Every class can solo everything and you just take 12 man parties for people to follow you like bots and get free rewards from doing nothing due to party share

This "kRO everything, not kRO? BAD!" seems to be a gimmick, so don't talk about balance when it is not, at all

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM

even if it were approved because Mun is Mun, what isn't the case, it would s*** but this but I'd still prefer that than the favoritism of older players and the dominant WoE guild.
the whole server was his idea, the card event thing is but a drop in the bucket, Hel would've never happened if munbalance hasn't come to SM
Might as well call it munbalance ro and how is that different from 'favoritism'?

Maybe its just not for me but idk, SM seemed to be a way better place before Hel happened tbh
Imma keep my SM interaction to Nif only and hope for the best, thanks for the work Lunar, don't forget that we exist too  /sob

Ara

#4
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
This is looking more like a rant over Shining Moon, over exaggerated to Nova RO's side, or you just played it for a really small time.
I mean.... both servers are clearly named in the topic name. I don't see why they can't vent their frustrations about SMRO in here, considering how much NovaRO seems to be mentioned in SMRO's review section. Those aren't taken down, don't see why it's a problem here. You can see even Lunar's reply on (what I'm assuming is) this guy's review in the normal review section, he's trying to throw shade on NovaRO.
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Stability/availability:
NovaRO was way better than SM in Helheim launch, but Shining Moon is right there as the stability got way better after the world gate stuff was removed, I saw the server crashing in a few occasions after that.
Seems to still be crashing once or twice a week. Though Nova crashed (I think?) once or twice right after the last big patch. It's usually right after maints though, so it's not really too big of a deal.
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Community:
Shining Moon is way way better imo, the party loot system make you be able to invite people in party for anything, kill count without being in screen is a nice QoL too, less leveling parties but because of the rate, but for everything else you can make parties, in Nova what party you'll see besides gramps and bio5(not sure about this one, as new content is illusion dungeons and people will need to solo it)?
I used to see a few Charlestons and that rare ET/EC party besides that, but that's it. I disagree in the population, SM has way less merchants/active players than Nova.
I guess if you made your review like, 2 weeks ago. Magma3 and Abyss Glast Heim parties are pretty big, bio5's still large parties, Charleston, Demon God, probably a couple more I forgot. I'd say a lot of parties are made inside guilds or on discord, and I dunno how well you can quantify and compare that between the servers.

I personally like being able to solo stuff, so I dunno. I don't play on SM so I can't say if it's viable or not to solo on there, but it seems like a drag if you can't farm without having a party.

Neither server posts their vending list, so who really knows how many people are vendors. I mean you're not wrong that SM has way less merchants and active players than Nova though? That was pretty obvious?

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Game Masters:
The event GMs are almost bots that only run a command to start a pre made event, this is because they're players so they lack a personality in the GM account, as they talk in Discords too and etc with their player account, GM Scout is new from the time I used to play I suppose, there was a GM Pancakes before that was the best GM imo(comparing both servers), both servers do a way of splitting GMs from administration so these GMs have less power what is how it should be, and they all give support, so can't really say much about this, but in SM they look more "free", still being GMs tho.

I don't really get why GMs have to have a personality. I guess event GMs make events better by interacting with the community. Support GMs are mainly there to answer questions, I don't see why they're required to have a personality outside of accurately answering questions. Looks more professional, too.
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Gameplay:
I agree that this is where the biggest differences are, in Nova when a new content comes the economy f*cks itself, I remember +15 BxB from 1~1.3b dropping quickly to 700m when BIO5 came(I wonder if the Event GMs have the info of when new content will be added), this doesn't happen in SM as there's more gears to pick from and it's easier to refine, that kind of price drop is nothing for someone who sell stuff from cash shop for zeny, but for free to play players it is a lot.
Refinement in NovaRO is way way way more unrewarding and unsatisfying, you only have that "Old Enriched" oridecon and elunium that is in SM and the main source for that being the cash shop, BSB will come only in Q2(and believe in me, but FAW too) and who knows the sacrifice that will be to get one. Also the materials drop from Lucky3 and other ways in Shining Moon, and by the price it's way easier to refine.
Hey here's something. Everyone knew when bio5 was going to come out. It was announced like... 2 weeks before the dungeon dropped. You could ask whether GMs in ShiningMoon knows about future updates too. It's not a surprise that something being farmed more (and the build being less good) would make equipment cheaper.

Isn't Lucky3 the thing you get from the compensation poring from when the server crashes.
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Guild competition:
Yes SM pvp/woe is still growing for now, there's some plans for it in the Discord channel but I didn't see anything new, but in Nova, you played bg, WoE consists in 1~2 guilds - I believe there's a new third one -  killing themselves and some newbies, because they give costume rewards for participating, the newbies or PVM players go there for the rewards, camp entrance and become memes in the WoE community, very very competitive, also check in forums to see how the same dominant guild can pass stupid suggestions and reject others.
Our WoE stats page doesn't show players that are in a guild with less than 12 (I think? or maybe was it 10) people. Last week there was 126, the week before that there was 138. Anyway that's at like almost half of SM's total online population counting vendors, and enough for at least 4-5 guilds.

And as a reminder, you were pushing a suggestion in the forums that had very little support, providing wildly inaccurate information, and even clashing ideas within the suggestion itself. While being completely confident. People can only read so much of that kind of stuff. I assume you then saw the #pvp-discussions channel or whatever in the ShiningMoon discord, and dropped the suggestion altogether. So much for 10+ people who supported it I guess?

How's that coming along?

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Class balance:
Now with sharp shooting buffed I believe, you'll only play ranger, there's no gear for x build, no gear for y build, no gear for anything, just the most OP build for that content update can be played because simply anything else is way way weaker, when I was playing it was just doram, people used to do LFMs like: Recruiting Cat for bio5, now it'll be only sharp shooting ranger. Do you want to play Warlock? Forget it, Sharp Shooting! Oh you want to play PVM SC? Are you crazy? Sharp Shooting! Today, tomorrow and in the another day too
...meta slave?
I hear people are doing pretty well with Raid on shadow chaser. Warlocks are even pretty well with the new Tetra Vortex thing, though not in Bio5. Just like a solo Sharpshooting Ranger probably would not do very good in Horror Toy Factory. Go figure, different strengths for different classes.
Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Basically you'll only see the problems with that server when you reach the end game, poor refine system, a very small amount of gears to pick from, that completely kills the game class balance, delayed updates, removal of some kRO cash shop gears, which creates a balance that doesn't really reflect kRO and we go on, oh there's also some items being edited to be nerfed, almost forgot that. I have nothing against your review, it's just a critique(as allowed in this forum, I talked about multiple points, but it's not another review lul), I'd love to see a review after you get to the end game.
I don't see how critique makes it not a review. I mean again... have you even seen ShiningMoon's RMS section?

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 12:52 PM
Mun suggested a event that is in kRO and we got it, what happens is that in the first days people that already had tons of card used them all and we got more MvP cards there, the event implementation was really close to when it was approved and it will happen from a certain period to another(as it is in kRO), even if it were approved because Mun is Mun, what isn't the case, it would s*** but this but I'd still prefer that than the favoritism of older players and the dominant WoE guild.
Hey, I wonder if Munbalance knew about the card event before it came out for the rest of the playerbase. On April Fools Day. Where I'm sure plenty of players assumed it was a joke. I'm no expert on finding this stuff, but I've never been able to find any evidence that it was a real kRO event. Or how Lunar managed to get the rates. Rates, that I hear were pretty iffy. I guess I'll just take your word for it, instead of being like all the people asking for proof every time NovaRO fixes a bug.


I'm sure ShiningMoon has it's own strengths. Your post didn't really do much to highlight them, though.
/no1

Ariasqt

#5
Well, Munbalance getting hundreds of thousands of free CP, finally is able to get MVP cards without having to farm and has an admin following his server breaking advice. I guess I understand now why he enjoys smRO so much  /...

I actually checked smROs discord for server crashes and uh you guys claim you have stability and that it got better but there were 2 crashes on Friday and Sunday. How bad was it before if this is "better"?




Congrats on the 4-day milestone I guess? Servers 10 years ago did better :/

And not taking care of that "Niflheim" server since Munbalance joined the other one(as mentioned by ivianna98) just shows how much you actually favor him over your other player base, yikes.

cyanish

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 03:59 PM
I mean you're not wrong that SM has way less merchants and active players than Nova though? That was pretty obvious?
/no1

I meant merchants per active player.

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 03:59 PM
Seems to still be crashing once or twice a week. Though Nova crashed (I think?) once or twice right after the last big patch. It's usually right after maints though, so it's not really too big of a deal.
A few occasions as I said, and they are fixed in a really faster speed now, the server constantly adds content so it has some small moments down, we're comparing a server doing constants updates and some fixes to a server who just did the patch for lv185.

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 03:59 PM
I personally like being able to solo stuff, so I dunno. I don't play on SM so I can't say if it's viable or not to solo on there, but it seems like a drag if you can't farm without having a party.

Yes you can farm without a party, people just opt for it as you get more rewards for doing party play, what makes it more fun, in NovaRO I always felt forced to do content solo, because instances give the same low income so if I bring a friend I'd lose part of it. I know people doing Sky Fort/GMT times and times a day, ofc people can do that in SM, but they're not doing it because of lack of alternatives.

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 03:59 PM
Our WoE stats page doesn't show players that are in a guild with less than 12 (I think? or maybe was it 10) people. Last week there was 126, the week before that there was 138. Anyway that's at like almost half of SM's total online population counting vendors, and enough for at least 4-5 guilds.

And as a reminder, you were pushing a suggestion in the forums that had very little support, providing wildly inaccurate information, and even clashing ideas within the suggestion itself. While being completely confident. People can only read so much of that kind of stuff. I assume you then saw the #pvp-discussions channel or whatever in the ShiningMoon discord, and dropped the suggestion altogether. So much for 10+ people who supported it I guess?

How's that coming along?

I don't mind the suggestion being not accept or anything, that's why suggestions are for, and you have such a detailed information about WoE player quantity for a normal player, that's nice! Okay GM Juno, the suggestion mostly got the feedback of the dominant guild members, which you're part of, this includes memeing and trolling over someone's suggestion, nobody felt comfortable to post after that and we even had to report some offensive statements(they got edited).

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 03:59 PM
I hear people are doing pretty well with Raid on shadow chaser. Warlocks are even pretty well with the new Tetra Vortex thing, though not in Bio5. Just like a solo Sharpshooting Ranger probably would not do very good in Horror Toy Factory. Go figure, different strengths for different classes.

Yes meme builds are good, in old content, in the newest content there's always one or two classes only that work, it's not being "different strengths for different classes.", it's one class killing everything except one or two things for a limiting factor and everything else being excluded from that new content. Also someone told me that even bio5 is down now due to low prices.

The way you always post on the forums is so biased that I wonder if you want everybody to know you're a GM  /heh

Quote from: ivianna98 on May 01, 2019, 03:35 PM
Idk how it is there, but how it is any different than reaper is now?

Reaper is a strong class rn, but other classes aren't excluded from playing, as what happened with Dorams when I played, in Hel or in Nif, we have gear to put in our characters.

Quote from: ivianna98 on May 01, 2019, 03:35 PM
Every class can solo everything and you just take 12 man parties for people to follow you like bots and get free rewards from doing nothing due to party share

The party loot system tracks if the player is helping or no, so there's no free rewards, though I agree it should be more strict sometimes.


I'm not going to keep posting(this forum only allows critiques and everyone have their opinions anyways), so just wanted to share my cents of truth for people who read the review  /kis

Ara

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 04:59 PM
I don't mind the suggestion being not accept or anything, that's why suggestions are for, and you have such a detailed information about WoE player quantity for a normal player, that's nice! Okay GM Juno, the suggestion mostly got the feedback of the dominant guild members, which you're part of, this includes memeing and trolling over someone's suggestion, nobody felt comfortable to post after that and we even had to report some offensive statements(they got edited).

Number of participants (in a large enough guild) is tracked on the website. I guess I get to be GM Juno now? Like I said, inaccurate statements presented with absolute confidence.

I don't see what's wrong with a larger group of players trying to stop suggestions they don't like. Y'know, some of them even tried to make suggested changes that would've helped you out. Don't think there's anything different from what they were doing on that thread, and what you're trying to do on this thread. It's not like they always get their way either. If I had things the way I wanted, that other PvP ranking/titles suggestion would've never made it through.

For anyone new to this conversation, here's the forum thread in question.

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 04:59 PM
Yes meme builds are good, in old content, in the newest content there's always one or two classes only that work
I guess I'll rephrase it then.

I hear people are doing pretty well with Raid on shadow chaser in Abyss Glast Heim, solo-farming. Warlocks are even pretty well with the new Tetra Vortex thing, though not in Bio5. They're pretty good in magma3 though. Some Star Emperor joined our magma3 party last week when we had a spare slot, and went off to go farm his own thing on the map too. They're good in bio3 too! If you managed to do bio5 in ShiningMoon with autospell Shadow Chaser, good for you I guess.

Quote from: cyanish on May 01, 2019, 04:59 PM
The way you always post on the forums is so biased that I wonder if you want everybody to know you're a GM
As if any of you guys are any less biased. At least I'm not blatantly trying to discredit other people without providing proof. You wanna talk about how half of the SM RO reviews in the forums read like paid advertisements? Wayyy more biased looking than anything I post. 8s and 9s in server stability/availability? Please.

Also like, mostly I was farming post count so I could use a profile picture, but I didn't wanna like, make it obvious that I just wanted post count. Gotta say something in them, y'know?



literalwho

Quote from: roin2k19 on Apr 30, 2019, 02:11 PM
At the moment reviews do not exist to rate servers but to actually damage them and spreading lies as seen in this very example.
I only now realized that you called your own post "this very example" and my mind was blown, this post by itself might be the Citizen Kane of RMS s*** posts.

Usually I'd let the big brain individuals find out this extravagant puzzle by themselves, but unfortunately this is the holy ground of NovaRO and Shining Moon posters, meaning that the average poster (me not included, of course) will have a hard time spotting this between their desperate attempts to balance out their drooling-to-breathing ratio, and as such, require some help on this fantastic brain twizzler.

Naruto

You could be playing on iRo with rates as high as what? 3x ? 4x?

/x

...................

roin2k19

#10
Quote from: Ariasqt on May 01, 2019, 04:01 PM
Well, Munbalance getting hundreds of thousands of free CP

I actually checked smROs discord for server crashes and uh you guys claim you have stability and that it got better but there were 2 crashes on Friday and Sunday. How bad was it before if this is "better"?




Congrats on the 4-day milestone I guess? Servers 10 years ago did better :/

And not taking care of that "Niflheim" server since Munbalance joined the other one(as mentioned by ivianna98) just shows how much you actually favor him over your other player base, yikes.

Munbalance gets infinite of CP from gms and admins he even mocks other people who do not have zeny



Context:Lunar nerfed thanatos tower for zeny and many complained that it's too hard to get zeny now. Munbalance mocks the players by saying it's easy to get zeny just need to sell his (infinite) CP. Lunar really became his puppy now and only listens to his owner... that's why Niflheim also gets neglected now like the other smRO player said..

Before crashes happened daily several times now it was every day or second day... still very bad

Quote from: Ara on May 01, 2019, 06:02 PM

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For anyone new to this conversation, here's the forum thread in question.
I guess I'll rephrase it then.

I didn't know who cyanish was haha! So, he suggested a PvP event in novaRO where players would all have the same equipment, didn't think it through and only very few people were interested in it? No support from the veterans of the server, so instead he went on a server without any PvP instead? Why.. cyanish shouldn't say pvp is still growing in smRO it's really non existent. He's implying pvp exists at all there it's a lie...
However, in novaRO i played bg with 40 other players today, so much cooler and so many more active players here  /lv
Right now I'm still very satisfied with novaRO... but I might swap to Rebel class so much more damage than my ranger  /sob

Now everyone crashing again lol



Availability/Stability -1 on smRO...

cyanish

Quote from: roin2k19 on May 01, 2019, 08:35 PM
in novaRO i played bg with 40 other players today



Okay, I'm out.

If you check all reviews and everything said you'll notice that the main issue with them towards NovaRO is the end game(that I talked about in gameplay in my first reply) so it's no surprise being satisfied when starting, and I don't know in which reality you played NovaRO bg with a new player ranger gear(and with this amount of people lmao), when the few people who plays bg includes veterans that literally destroy newbies that do, I mean, any skill of a veteran, that doesn't even need a mvp card can kill a newbie with one hit, this includes AoE skills, there's a big gap regarding equipment as refinements use the pre renewal system, so newbies are forced to play with support classes(newbies with some good zeny still, I couldn't buy decent DPS gear for that with around 2b), sorry but for me it just looks like you're really trying hard to make it looks like you didn't do a bad decision, but I may be wrong, in that case I wish you luck in your new server and keep having fun there, also in your new rebel

Quote from: roin2k19 on May 01, 2019, 08:35 PM
Munbalance gets infinite of CP from gms and admins he even mocks other people who do not have zeny

Is it so hard to understand how a basic referral system works lmao, well, enjoy your stay in NovaRO

hexonie

Dude joins Nova RO and is satisfied. Let me tell you something sweet price, I joined Nova RO and was pretty happy and satisfied because my last server before that was iRO. To be really honest Nova RO made me realize why private servers exist in the first place. But the endgame on NovaRO is so annoying that you will enjoy it only if you don't have a life and like to do repetitive things. You just seen the cream of the crop in Nova so far. Also it's funny how you mention the bugs in Shining Moon but aren't aware of a bug existing since 2017 that the "big oof" after your first post has been abusing to farm bio5. Meanwhile that bug isn't even a thing on Shining Moon. There are countless other bugs that exist in Nova that are fixed on Shining Moon.

I feel you were just butt hurt by Lunars comment on your review and wanted to drag down the server. For people who know what NovaRO really is, sadly your tactic will backfire on you. For those who want to play it, go ahead and do so just don't make the mistake of donating like I did - You will regret it.

fluffrierre

So basically, you got salty that you didn't get anything from an actual kRO event was implemented in a kRO-based server, so you left a review on the server page absolutely spilling this industrial-grade salt, got told to buzz off by Lunar and actually was salty enough to write a review for a new server s*** on the old one while you're not even far enough into the server to see the problem people complain about, even went as far as making s*** up in an attempt to make your argument believable.
Dude, you need to get laid lulmao.

Min

People are allowed to have different preference in servers. if you like NovaRO more than SM that's fine.
That's the glory of private servers, people can look for exactly what they want.

helheim had a rough launch that's obvious but almost every private server does. Even NovaRO had times where it crashed every nighty. Server's grow and as long as stuff is actively getting fixed, I'm alright with it being a bit rough around the edges. But obviously that isn't for everyone and if you want a more polished server I'd highly suggest against joining any server on day, week or even month 1.

As for my referral status, yeah I do benefit a lot from the amount of players I bring to the server. Technically I could do this in any server that has a referral system. I'm in a very unique spot and I'm very lucky for my following. This isn't free though, this is something I've built up over years of growing my youtube and twitch channels and it's honestly a bit upsetting that people are this jealous about it, considering that most of what I get is used to get more stuff to show off and make more videos.

Same thing happens when a guild leader refers all his guildmates to a server and is rewarded for doing so. The server benefits from getting a large influx of players except in this case its not 15-30 people its 1800+
That's not free, the guild leader earned the rewards by keeping an organized group of people together and this has a direct benefit on the server.



as for a lot of the out of context discord screenshots, keep in mind a lot of these are out of context and satirical in nature, people make jokes? on the internet!?

I don't see why everyone disliked the card event so much, as it stands plenty of players were getting MVPS at a fast rate from bloody branches, without the event cards like tao would still be rare, mind you but the price compared to non BB mvps like gioia would be absurd.

Official servers have stopped treating these cards sacred for a long time and I think as a server that claims to emulate kRO we should do the same. I think this event has many positive sides that people are ignoring (such as no card being worthless) and most of the mvps dropped from it weren't even that good. Yeah some bio5 cards dropped but honestly do these cards honestly compare to the versatility of a kiel or power/survivability increase from tao? I don't think so.