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Offline Masao

LotusRO
« on: Apr 13, 2020, 11:52 am »

Hello everyone,

I'd like to give you guys and gals a review of a, in my opinion, unfortunatly not so popular lowrate renewal server which deserves a lot more recognition and attention than it's currently getting from the lowrate renewal p-server community.

For a TLDR; please go to the end of this post, thank you.  /ok

Server Backstory, Server Approach & Server Goal:
I've been playing on this server for a total amount of 6 ~ 7 months so far, pretty much since it first opened its gates back in September 2019, but I only played very casual back then because as most of you know, new lowrate renewal servers have the tendency to disappear within the same month they pop up so I didn't want to invest too much time and energy into this server yet, but from the very little experience and information I was able to gather during the very short amount of time I was able to play back then was, that I got a very pleasant and welcoming feeling / vibe instantly from the server and its community because of all the kindness and helpfulness I got to experience from the Admin, GM staff and the community the moment I joined the server and when I had any question they helped me and answered me pretty much immediately.

And I guess that's also what mainly brought me back again to this very specific server after all this time and why I recently started playing actively again for the past 1~2 months now, time flies here because it's so much fun and the community and staff has been so great / so amazing so far! It's become rare to still find a nice community in this big sea of p-servers out there.

Although the server was completly new and basically had no advertisement or real playerbase going on back then, as well as it was to be honest just a out of the gate fresh copy of the back then available rAthena simulator, the Admin, GM staff and the currently existing community were and still are hopeful and optimistic to turn this server into a new, fresh and amazing ragnarok online gaming experience for mainly but not exclusively the european players since they opened this server because the official euRO server run by WhyBe back in 2019 shut down before it got taken over by 4game, a russian company no one of the original playerbase from the official WhyBe euRO server really trusted and nobody of the old WhyBe euRO community really wanted to play on, because it seemed like an obvious cashgrab server that will go down in a year or two years time period.

That's why they've decided to open up their own new p-server called LotusRO, in hope to find many new like-minded people but also offering a home to all the old euRO players who just lost their home wanting to play on a server that feels like the official european server and didn't want to waste their time on the russian one in fear that all their progress will be lost again in a matter of a couple of months or a year again. That's why although they had no idea what they were getting into, they bought the entire server already for a minimum of 2 years!

So no matter what happens, for at least the next 1 1/2 years, this server will be going nowhere!  /heh

The server owner and his entire staff are all very experienced people in coding and scripting, the owner himself works in IT and is well versed in many different programming languages plus he also managed to get help from previous rAthena developers for his server as well as support from Amity for his homepage who is famous for creating the euRO marketwatch Amity Marketwatch.

Their main goal is to be as close to the official kRO server as possible but also to give their playerbase the best playing & gaming experience they can offer thanks to the many different QoL features and custom systems they have to offer to improve the replayability of the current and new content, as well as securing long term goals to keep the community and economy as well as the PvP/WoE scene going and active for a long time while also still being able to finance, support and further develop the server, possibly paying their own staff in the future but definitly without gaining any personal IRL or ingame profit / advantage through user donations ever.  /no1

Since those things aren't easy to combine, they came up with a set of different systems to accomplish these goals which I will list down below.

Current state:
Currently the server managed to gather a playerbase of around 10 ~ 20 concurrent active users playing at a time and I'd guess around ~30+ players in total playing around different time frames during the day depending on weekday and WoE hours of course.

The server is currently in a mix of epsiode 16.2 and 17.1, although the staff is very experienced they still are a very small team and they still all work for free and in their own time so it's mainly the Admin doing all the work to get things up-to-date so naturally it will take a while for them to implement / add all the things missing in between the episodes, but they're working hard around the clock every day and still are available daily if you have any questions and need any support they're pretty much always available in Discord and if not the community will more than gladly help answer your questions!

WoE:
Although the playerbase is low, WoE TE, FE and SE are active and a single guild can hold as many castles as they wish although they can only collect the treasure boxes of the currently active castles / city of the current WoE cycle. WoE castles & cities / WoE cycles change every week with the weekly maintenance. There's at the moment only one active WoE guild on the server defending the castles, so they would of course be more than happy to see new faces on the server to challenge them!  /gg

Click here for the current WoE times of the server: LotusRO WoE Hours

Economy:
I'd say the economy is well, up and running but of course due to the rather low population and competition (MvP & WoE) going on currently, there are quite a few players amassing a certain amount of wealth on the server, which is a normal thing to happen of course with such a small playerbase available at the moment but once more players find their way on the server to help the economy grow and blossom, that wealth will be distributed in no time.

Especially items that need to be farmed to create EDP, FCP, Acid & Fire Bottles etc. are highly wanted and needed goods.

So new players shouldn't be discouraged or have a problem in catching up with the other players on the server since in general the community is very nice and user friendly, I'm sure the occasional "Heal, Zeny, Item pls!" will also even find a response among the community if you ask them for some help /heh

Balance:
In terms of balance the server is pretty much up-to-date with kRO standards so it's as balanced as it can get from an official standpoint I guess, since they want to be as close to official as they can be you won't find any random tweaks, nerfs or buffs in any of the classes, they are how they are and will stay that way. They're currently finishing the 3rd cls skill rework which should come in about 2 - 3 weeks so they're even a bit ahead of rAthena in that regard.

Events:
Here is where this server really starts to shine in comparison to an official server and many other lowrate servers. Although this server is very lowrate with its 2/2/1 settings, their very own and unique event system called the Zodiac Sign System will make up plenty for it! Besides the fact that they changed from the 2/2/1 rates to 4/4/2 rates and disabled the level penalty feature of classic renewal servers, they added this system so every week there are always at least 2 different server-wide events going on!

There never will be two events of the same type active at the same time, so there are never 2x exp events (+100% exp and +200% exp) or 2x drop (+100% and +200% drop) happening.

And of course yearly events will still take place in between the regular events like easter, halloween, christmas and many others!

Features:
This server has many very unique features which are mostly QoL features to help both, new and old players to enjoy the game even more and keep on playing! Below you'll find a few of the many features this server is offering their playerbase.

No real Cashshop / No P2W:
For example, since they don't want to be P2W and make players feel like they have to donate money to get anywhere in the game, pretty much everything in the donation shop is also available through zeny! Many of the very desired items like blacksmith blessings, ship captain hat, bloody branches, adventurer's backpack and much more are all available through boxes called Scambernite Box which drop from pretty much all MvP's in the game, depending on the difficulty of the MvP, higher graded Scambernite Boxes with more valueable loot inside will drop from them!

So there isn't any gear, any potions any customs or costumes or any other type of random and maybe over-powered stuff inside the cashshop. The cashshop contains only Bubble Gums, Battle Manuals, Refining Ores, Fashion Coupons, Boarding Halter and Name Change Coupons which all can be sold via merchant ingame by another player or mostly gained through the attendance system or other trade-in NPC's.

Instances:
They've created their very own and unique Instance Point System which awards you depending on the difficulty and / or cooldown time of the instance with a certain amount of instance points which you can use to buy many powerful but not over-powered items from their instance vendor! Instances can be reset using their own currency called "Lotus Crystals" which can be gained through the daily attendance system or trading in any monster card for card coins which you can use to buy OCA's, Bloody Branches, Lotus Crystals and even MCA's!

Costumes not customs!:
They're offering a wide variety of currently over 1'100 costumes which you can get through their Fashion Coupon System! Fashion Coupons can be gained through various boxes available ingame such as the classic obb, ovb and other normal gift boxes.

General QoL:
You can find a general overview of their QoL features at the link below because there are just too many to list them all here!
Quality Of Life

TLDR:
A really great server that feels like the official euRO server but with some nice QoL features added like auto trading and many other things! The community is still a bit small but growing on a nearly daily basis. There are often nice events like dbl exp, dbl drop or dbl monster spawn which make leveling and farming feel really easy and not like a chore. The GM's are always available in discord and are constantly working on the server to get and keep it up-to-date with the newest kRO episode. I highly recommend it!

I can't wait for what they have next in store, but I'm sure the future of the server and for us the players looks very bright! I'm sure they'll keep on working hard to ensure the best ragnarok lowrate renewal gaming experience we can have that a p-server can offer!

So I really hope this review will motivate you to check out the server and give it a shot, we all would be very happy to see you guys and gals around!

Homepage: LotusRO

Regards
Masao

« Last Edit: Aug 14, 2020, 09:47 am by Masao »

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Offline WindsorGaming

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #1 on: Apr 15, 2020, 05:32 pm »
Thank you so much for your kind words!

Offline Feebee

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #2 on: Apr 16, 2020, 07:33 am »
Is this an advertisement or a review?

I used to play here, seen the admin say things like "the cash shop exists because the players want to support this server" when there was like only 5 active players.. and when I asked who those players are he could not give me a proper logical answer.

While you arent forced to buy VIP, I would consider it very stupid to play without it, so yeah, imo, you are kinda forced into buying VIP. Your progression and drops are literally doubled. Why not just remove this cancerous vip system which plagued the offical servers for so long?

After all the months that have passed, it doesn't seem like anything really changed and it isn't worth coming back. Probably why the population is still below ~20 which isn't a sign of a healthy/good server.

Speaking of healthy server.. some classes are unplayable because of the shortage of players and no economy to begin with. One of many examples: GX. Poison bottles were close to not existant in the server and according to your "review" it still didnt change "because this is KRO-like", well KRO has 2-3000 players and a healthy economy and PB's are easy to obtain even for new players.

I dont recommend this server, although the idea behind it is good.


PS: believe me, you are doing something wrong if there are still only 10-20 players playing after 1 year and you should try to change. Especially that crappy VIP system which most likely turns off 99% of the players and find ways to compensate the lack of items because of the low population.

« Last Edit: Apr 16, 2020, 07:49 am by Feebee »

Offline Masao

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #3 on: Apr 16, 2020, 02:19 pm »
Hi there,

This is a review that's why it's in the review section :D

Sad to hear you didn't have / didn't experience such a good time like I do on the sever :-/ But as I said in my review tho', the server opened back in september 2019 so it's about half a year old not 1 year like you say  /hmm

I also said that I think the economy is doing good, of course it could be better but that will eventually only happen if more players will join, hence my review hoping to bring some attention and new players to this server  /ok

The admin. added a NPC that sells all the ingredients you need to craft poison bottles and other bottles at a fair price IMO but still high enough that new players who would like to farm them to make zeny can sell them in their shop as merchant cheaper than the NPC and gain a good amount of zeny like that.




And besides that many other things have changed, so maybe you should give the server another shot  /lv

But I guess you probably won't because of the VIP system which seems to have been the biggest issue for you, while I can understand your viewpoint on the system pretty much every other server not only official is offering such a service to help fund the server and help it grow.

Have a nice day and c ya around :)
« Last Edit: Apr 16, 2020, 05:07 pm by Masao »

Offline Solemnis

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #4 on: Apr 16, 2020, 03:42 pm »
Thank you very much, Masao!

I have to say one more thing about your review though: since we changed the domain name we freshly renewed the renting of the server for another two years recently.

Is this an advertisement or a review?

This is a review since Masao is not a member of the staff team but a normal player.

I used to play here, seen the admin say things like "the cash shop exists because the players want to support this server" when there was like only 5 active players.. and when I asked who those players are he could not give me a proper logical answer.

Obviously we will not disclose personal information of our players due to privacy reasons. If they want to come forward on their own, that's their choice.

While you arent forced to buy VIP, I would consider it very stupid to play without it, so yeah, imo, you are kinda forced into buying VIP. Your progression and drops are literally doubled. Why not just remove this cancerous vip system which plagued the offical servers for so long?

VIP tickets are tradable amongst players for zeny, also there is no real need for VIP since we increased our rates from 1/1/1 to 2/2/1, we also edited our Zodiac system to improve it (there's double and triple exp as well as double and triple drop). VIP is purely optional and it's also a way to pay for the server costs. Almost everything in the iShop was implemented due to player request while you can at the same time acquire everything in-game without paying real money.

After all the months that have passed, it doesn't seem like anything really changed and it isn't worth coming back. Probably why the population is still below ~20 which isn't a sign of a healthy/good server.

Speaking of healthy server.. some classes are unplayable because of the shortage of players and no economy to begin with. One of many examples: GX. Poison bottles were close to not existant in the server and according to your "review" it still didnt change "because this is KRO-like", well KRO has 2-3000 players and a healthy economy and PB's are easy to obtain even for new players.

I dont recommend this server, although the idea behind it is good.


PS: believe me, you are doing something wrong if there are still only 10-20 players playing after 1 year and you should try to change. Especially that crappy VIP system which most likely turns off 99% of the players and find ways to compensate the lack of items because of the low population.

Classes are all playable since you can buy all class-related ingredients from an NPC for zeny.

Offline Feebee

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #5 on: Apr 16, 2020, 04:43 pm »
Thank you very much, Masao!

I have to say one more thing about your review though: since we changed the domain name we freshly renewed the renting of the server for another two years recently.

This is a review since Masao is not a member of the staff team but a normal player.

Obviously we will not disclose personal information of our players due to privacy reasons. If they want to come forward on their own, that's their choice.

VIP tickets are tradable amongst players for zeny, also there is no real need for VIP since we increased our rates from 1/1/1 to 2/2/1, we also edited our Zodiac system to improve it (there's double and triple exp as well as double and triple drop). VIP is purely optional and it's also a way to pay for the server costs. Almost everything in the iShop was implemented due to player request while you can at the same time acquire everything in-game without paying real money.

Classes are all playable since you can buy all class-related ingredients from an NPC for zeny.

Well, you're basically describing the definition of pay-to-win. Casher buys VIP tickets, sells them to other players for zeny -> buys whatever he wants -> wins
And yall still wondering why your server wont grow, even during corona, where most servers reach the peak of their population because everyone is athome playing, your server is still below 10 online. Your population speaks for itself. No need to go all defensive even after more than half a year of declining population.

How is there no real need for VIP because your rates went from 1/1/1 to 2/2/1 ?!?!?!  /hmm it still makes your rates go up to 4/4/2 LOL.

The extremely sugarcoated and overly positive "review" by masao will lure some players in, but as always they are gonna leave quicker than you can say corona.

Offline WindsorGaming

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #6 on: Apr 19, 2020, 04:31 am »
We're sorry that you did not enjoy the server, but a lot of things have changed since you played i assure you, we're also looking into ways to make vip tickets accessible in other ways :)

Offline Masao

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #7 on: Apr 23, 2020, 06:36 am »
Well, you're basically describing the definition of pay-to-win. Casher buys VIP tickets, sells them to other players for zeny -> buys whatever he wants -> wins
And yall still wondering why your server wont grow, even during corona, where most servers reach the peak of their population because everyone is athome playing, your server is still below 10 online. Your population speaks for itself. No need to go all defensive even after more than half a year of declining population.

How is there no real need for VIP because your rates went from 1/1/1 to 2/2/1 ?!?!?!  /hmm it still makes your rates go up to 4/4/2 LOL.

The extremely sugarcoated and overly positive "review" by masao will lure some players in, but as always they are gonna leave quicker than you can say corona.

The server administration has now decided due to your and other player responses to the VIP system, that they're going to completly disable it as per today. They now increased the server rates for everyone up to 4/4/2 and the maximum storage to 800 since the server can't handle more than 800 without causing issues. Maybe this will truly be to your "no P2W" standards and you're maybe willing to give it another try.  /no1

Offline WindsorGaming

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #8 on: Apr 26, 2020, 03:05 pm »
We're already seeing really positive responses and growth from this decision, thank you for your input @feebee :)

Removal of VIP was probobly the best thing we could do for the fun and longetivity of the server

/ James

Offline WindsorGaming

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 04:44 am »
Oh wow, this is amazing, new player peaks every day! /lv

Offline Masao

Re: LotusRO
« Reply #10 on: Aug 07, 2020, 03:11 am »
Today they've released the 2020 client for the server to support all the cool new skill animations and a bunch of other really neat stuff that comes with it, and also they are making some progress towards the 17.1 content with the illusion dungeons!

Illusion of Moon has been added as well and Illusion of Vampire will be added later during the week or next maintenance! The server soon will celebrate its 1 year anniversary with a lot of cool events and a whole week of bossnia!

So as you can see a lot of exciting things keep on happening with this server, come check us out you won't regret it!

https://lotusragnarok.com/ControlPanel/
« Last Edit: Aug 07, 2020, 05:16 am by Masao »