Earthbound RO Server Review

Started by Jawi, Aug 24, 2008, 08:59 AM

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Jawi

Note : Requested to delete this topic, it can cause more harm/conflicts then any "good" , and due to the nature of my position no screenshots have been recorded to claim this review.

Sorry for the trouble,

With respect,

Jawi


Hello,

My iGN is Jawi , first a regual player of EBRO then promoted to GM and then Head-GM and worked for a Year for EBRO.

Kicked/Banned from GM position : 3 months ago.
During that time I had a pretty good insight how things where handled on the outside and inside of this server.
My job on the server was general helping of the community , bug reporting to the Admins , holding general events at different times , checking for bots / and punishing abusers.

Before ill say anything ill say the following : "If any Staff-members of EBRO read this , im not trying to 'avenge' for my banishment , im already trough with that part for a very long time , im just telling people how things look like"

Now in that 1 year that ive been a gm , there are some crutial points that ive noticed that realy prevent the growth of a server , things like :

  • Reported bugs or missing items in vendors => not fixed , even when asking 2 months after!, even adding a simple missing item to a vendor look like it could take ages to preform!
  • Custom stuff to add to the server like quests/item => Very limited , most of the "updates" are new donation items , only a few custom items can be got from quests , like many people I knew told me that custom donation items have a bigger priority over general improvements
  • VERY Limited communication between the COMMUNITY and the ADMINS (for techical issues, its best to contact the admins directly instead of the GM staff, unless they can relay it), some say that you can use Ventrilo to chat with the admins , but not everyone has a microphone
  • Very few events / original events , due to the nature of the event tokens , rewards are the same and could be boring after a while , event gms have limited ways to host events because they can only give prices to winners via an NPC (gms can't trade/create items to prevent abuse off an gm), Idea's to add more rewards to the NPC have fallen on deaf's ears.
  • Suggestions by the community (via the forums) tend to fall on deaf's ears, no reaction from the Admins if they agree to the idea's, later on this section got removed from EBRO forums
  • I know class balance at the levels 255's is hard to acomplish, still the community made a few very good suggestions in the past to rebalance the classes , like raising the skill delay's (to prevent spamming of powerfull skills like breaker [Since those skills are at max speeds at lv's 255] , also editing certain mvp cards or adding mvp cards to aid mages against gtb) , while these idea's got thrown away and they give as reason that things should be let as it is, but the current class balance system is made for max levels 99 not 255 ,there are some gaps in the system (like beter equipment for the non reborn classes [Ninja's,Teakwons,Gunslingers], since those cant use the 'trans' items [like Valkyrie Sets]). Again the use of custom items can lower the inbalance of classes.

Following information is not an act of "trolling" , these are the things ive witnessed.

  • At certain moments, when a group of persons (normal players) want to suggest a beter method to handle events/punishments or big server changes , Admins often see them as people that try to control the way how there server is run,often in this situation a Ban or IP-Ban is given
  • Certain Admins giving donations items / possibly powerfull cards to RO GF's, based on a chat with one of the ex gf's
  • Punishments done by the Admins can be done for a personal reason, like IP ban a person for insulting an Admin , under normal situations a mute or/and jail will be suitable like the normal GM's are need to follow (normal gms can't IP ban) , more personal reason can be "flirting" of an admins "gf" (Don't laugh at this  ;))
  • RL Family members of Admins have more priveleges then normal players, more acces to Donations items/Cards , proper punishments against them are overruled by the admins (A proper example : A brother of one of the admins is being disrespectfull to the community , asked properly to stop but he continues , I muted his character for 10 minutes as a warning , a few minutes later an Admin comes online on the GM guild list and the mute has been removed)
  • Due to the nature that both admins are family's , if one of the admins has a grudge against someone, the other Admin is "powerless" to check things out or resolve a situation (not to be on the bad side of the familymember, while I respect this,this can lead to more problems in the future to the community)
  • Regual GM's have limited commands to cope with when dealing with an abuser, some ranks only have mute/kick, a very few had the ban commands but no IP ban (could be usefull if your handeling a stuborn spammer/server add)
  • Staffmembers that start to ask/question the judgement of a recent banning by the admins tend to get the bad attention of themselfs. In my case : One of the GM's ive known well in the past got kicked/IP-Banned , while I knew this person well ive been asking around , community/Staff , while this did not result in a reaction of the admins , this was mentioned as one of the reasons that I was kicked/nonsuitable for a headgm, this also works with people ive known well in the game.

Some more reviews of players can be found on this forum of RMS : http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-reviews/ebro-earthbound-ro-personal-ratting/0/

Ive worked there for over a year , did my job without complaining to much , reported every bug/major suggestion to the admins (even it might fallen on deaf's years) and so on , my recent banning has raised questions about the structure how things work in EBRO, or prehaps im closing the book on RO gameplay and want to "write a final page in that book before closing it"

But in General , for a normal player you wont notice these things, but if you integrate into the community you can witness situations that you realy dont expect from EBRO , the communtiy is great and realy friendly , thats what makes EBRO unique , its community of friendly players.[/s]

Now that all I should write for now, again this topic is not for revenge or any of that sort.


Jawi



Kevin Valentine

#1
Not to be harsh. But you seem to be contradicting yourself. You mentioned in the first few lines, that you are not here to "avenge" but to simply bring out the truth about EBRO. I think not.

If you were, then first of all, you wouldn't have even bothered writing this essay of yours. If you are really  over with it, I think you would have just closed this chapter of your life and moved forward.
Secondly, If you were really not "avenging" you might have mentioned some of the good points of EBRO?(apart from the community, if there is a community, then the staff must be doing something right, which would render the entire purpose of your essay).That brings us to the last argument.
Why all of this...now?. If its not for revenge then why are you "Telling" us all this now?. If you really did wrote this review out of pure goodwill to warn future and current players of EBRO, I think you would have mentioned this before you were banned and kicked out.

Lets look at the whole picture now. You were a GM, you became the Head GM, then you got kicked and banned. Pissed about it, frustrated and annoyed about it. Because you are now powerless to do anything about it. You resort to writing a review, A "Bad review" about EBRO here. And to convince people that you are telling the truth and nothing but the truth, and that your not just another kid who is whining about getting banned.....you defend yourself by saying "I'm over it"?. I mean, if you were still a GM there and hadn't been banned, and came here and wrote this essay, I think it would have been more convincing and lets say..... honest.

So lets admit it, you didn't come here to "Show" us how EBRO works, but to merely fire an arrow hoping to hit the bull's eye.

I'm not trying to flame you, but, former staffs of a server shouldn't be doing this. You were once part of that very team that your spitting on now. That would make you the same.

Jawi

#2
Everyone makes a review of a server here, and why should I not do it?
Look, im not making a bad server review just for the fun or making a bad image, just telling the facts ive seen while being on that server. Im being neutral in this part. I could have wrote down some personal issues but thats realy improper, the things I wrote in here that concidered "trolling" happened on serveral occations to other people I knew when being there, so its kinda a warning to the future  people or something to keep in mind but I dont say it WILL happen, but when it happened in the past it can return sooner or later.

Forgive if I sound rude but I view your comment like you dislike this review because it may give a bad image on the inside and it may be inproper because ive been a GM and got kicked/banned, just for the note, im already trough that part and im not mad about it for a LONG time so no "revenge" or that in any kind.

By the way, everyone can make a review if its proper constructed and neutral.

with Respect,

Jawi

Aragorn

Quote from: Kevin Valentine on Aug 25, 2008, 02:39 AM
Not to be harsh. But you seem to be contradicting yourself. You mentioned in the first few lines, that you are not here to "avenge" but to simply bring out the truth about EBRO. I think not.

If you were, then first of all, you wouldn't have even bothered writing this essay of yours. If you are really  over with it, I think you would have just closed this chapter of your life and moved forward.
Secondly, If you were really not "avenging" you might have mentioned some of the good points of EBRO?(apart from the community, if there is a community, then the staff must be doing something right, which would render the entire purpose of your essay).That brings us to the last argument.
Why all of this...now?. If its not for revenge then why are you "Telling" us all this now?. If you really did wrote this review out of pure goodwill to warn future and current players of EBRO, I think you would have mentioned this before you were banned and kicked out.

Lets look at the whole picture now. You were a GM, you became the Head GM, then you got kicked and banned. Pissed about it, frustrated and annoyed about it. Because you are now powerless to do anything about it. You resort to writing a review, A "Bad review" about EBRO here. And to convince people that you are telling the truth and nothing but the truth, and that your not just another kid who is whining about getting banned.....you defend yourself by saying "I'm over it"?. I mean, if you were still a GM there and hadn't been banned, and came here and wrote this essay, I think it would have been more convincing and lets say..... honest.

So lets admit it, you didn't come here to "Show" us how EBRO works, but to merely fire an arrow hoping to hit the bull's eye.

I'm not trying to flame you, but, former staffs of a server shouldn't be doing this. You were once part of that very team that your spitting on now. That would make you the same.
so what? so your such an intelligent as s now? he wants to make his own as s review and your post didnt even make any input in the thread.. you just said this and this and that... (>.>)

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

Omg Onoes

Your signature has been reported and removed for peacefulness of this forum.

Guest

well yup thats the basic rule of these kinds of things, screen shots, logs, or anything that can support what you say and if you don't have/can't get those, then its not really believable~

sorry~

Jawi

I understand , its hard to prove something in a period you have been loyal to a gm team , its like this , if your a member of a gm team and you had a good time , will you screenshot every action of the higher ranking? Its kinda unthinkable in that way but ive changed my mind.

Ive tought about this , my reviews won't realy inform a bit about ebro and can cause a big argument in the future and doing this when im about to "close the book on RO" isnt realy needed, so I wish to drop the review if its possible and can a Moderator delete this review, no need to bring more problems to others in the future.

With Respect,

Jawi

Kevin Valentine

#7
I never did say he couldn't make a review. I just simply suggested;

Don't write you're "over it" as your defense against people labeling you as a whiner. Its really hard to believe that someone came here to give a bad review of a server without any intentions of degrading it. Now if you were still a GM on EBRO and wrote this review....that would have been another story.
As for the third reply, exactly. I did not do any input because; I have no idea what goes in EBRO or what type of server it is. I've never played it. I think I did see the forums back a couple of months ago when hunting for servers(And if I didn't join it, that means I didn't like it). So there was no reason for me to give an input as you have said. My entire point was to tell the starter of this topic that, people aren't going to buy it.

You might be telling the truth  or you might not be. Personally, I think you are telling the truth.But I got sorta annoyed. Because, you should have done this when you first witnessed corruption in that server, and you choose not too. That begs the question, looking out for players? or yourself o.o. or just pure hatred towards that server?

yC

Quote from: Jawi on Aug 25, 2008, 10:52 AM
so I wish to drop the review if its possible and can a Moderator delete this review

Like always, this is not a report but a review.  It is up to the reader to decide. 

Jawi

#9
Understood, Im allowed to line my review (like 111222333444) and adding a small message below with a reason for this or

With Respect,

Jawi

mickiedeez

@the OP

+1

@everyone else
If you're here claiming this isn't true on the server, then I can rightfully, you're and ignorant retard.

I really don't think the server could possibly degrade anymore.  And i'm bewildered as too how it had any players at all besides GM's and their friends
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

Shinn

...maybe it was the rap song they had? jks ..sorry just had to say that xD

cause after all the drama, I still slain em.


Need a site done? contact me.

~~T~~

Quote from: Shinn on Sep 05, 2008, 09:34 PM
...maybe it was the rap song they had? jks ..sorry just had to say that xD
Make it stop.

Guest

@_@ ontopic please =3
*cookies to anyone thats on topic*

Hutchy

It seems the server has several negative reviews, but screenies or logs would definitely prove your case OP. Don't be intimidated because someone was unhappy with your background on the server - just disprove the accusations. :D

*claims cookies*

sadawasa

@jawi
100% TRUE

@mickiedeez
haha that's exactly what's happening around 30 people online right? and half of populations are using @autotrade command