Does something seem weird to you?

Started by Ailinea, Jul 02, 2009, 09:38 AM

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Ailinea

So every so often in the corner, I see reviews for ZetaRO, and they're almost always 100.  Come to look at the reviews for ZetaRO, and they have received 79 reviews in the past couple weeks, and the average review is 92.  Searching their forum brought up nothing... but just seems odd to me.  I don't have proof of anything, and I'm not accusing them of anything; just thought I'd bring it to someone's attention.  Also, there's this review:
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   Played this server for less than 1 month    2009-07-01
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Comment #4
Wtf.

Here's a link to their review page if you're interested. http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=7905&itv=6&url_sname=ZetaRO&page_num=1
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick donkey.  And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Scribbles

I think i already reported it. It dose violate the Review Guidelines
Quote# 2) Reviews consisting of trolling, spamming and/or personal attack.

LemonCrosswalk

I've seen the same "review" reported before. This is at least a second strike for some "super" "funny" "guy".

yC

i know i know ... i can tell this server is super suspicious and it has been suspended before ... at this point we don't have anything against them to "get the job done".  It might be within their local language community that we don't understand, it might be something else ... anyone have the time and willing to help please do so.

review deleted and it's one of those that obviously will get deleted when spotted.

SilverStream~

Can anyone who speaks their language go take a look then maybe?

There's always dirt somewhere in a server.
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Xarale

#5
Apparently, they have had 50 reviews in less than a week.  Either their population just loves to give reviews, or there's something dodgy going on.  
I had a look around their forums, but I couldn't find anything there that suggested they were giving incentives for reviews.

Hutchy

If the server is really that great, we would have heard about it by now. Lots about it. But we've got nothing aside from spam 90-100 reviews.

It's also at the top on a lot of voting sites. SOMETHING has to be going on - if not, this server is apparently a gift from the gods. One that none of us have ever heard of. >_>

SilverStream~

We aren't the only people in the world to play Ragnarok online though.  So if it's popular somewhere else then europe/us and haven't been advertised massively on rms it's not too unusual.

On an off topic note, I heard that some guy owned a server in china or something and he lived there, and banned some players then they came to his house and beat him up hahaha xD

Kinda mean but was funny to hear lol.
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Celeste

#9
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=7905&itv=6&url_sname=ZetaRO&page_num=1



Most of the names have two capital letters like MyName. The grammar and content is very similiar.

Also, they're also advertising things they don't have, and the rates are wrong on their server listing.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7355/aa9a41fd43491fce4e0ac6f.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9618/20078b63c4dbd1249b4d682.jpg

jericpo

#10
i am the admin of zeta ro, our previous suspension opened our eyes and ask for reviews legally, we just broadcast at least once a week and ask our players to review zeta RO. we do have a 100-300 player cap, so does having 80+ reviews with a server that has 100-300 players illegal? those who spam are just old players who think they can still get prizes by reviewing, well they don't, because if we do, we'll get suspended again. -_- i don't blame you for suspecting us doing illegal things again, because we got suspended before, but there's always a 2nd chance option.

Newly

So your players spam reviews thinking there gonna get prizes? All you have to do is tell your players not to. Your the admin control your server. Lol. So most of your reviews are spam? Same player reviewing hoping for that rare items admin might reward them with. >< I vote Half your reviews be deleted. rawr But thats jus me. Jus take charge and inforce that there will be no rewards for reviews.

Amayax

@Newly

It is easier said then done to control players. It's like the same concept of trying to control people from not murdering others. There are laws against it, but does that stop people? No. Lol. Same with RO Server's, or anything in general actually.

@Jericpo

Should make it one of your Rules if you want it to have a bigger effect until people get it through their thick heads. Even though as I said above, it might not help either. But you can atleast punish them in your server if you ask yC for their IP's and/or e-mails. Just saying.

LemonCrosswalk

Quote from: Amayax on Jul 08, 2009, 04:40 PM
@Newly

It is easier said then done to control players. It's like the same concept of trying to control people from not murdering others. There are laws against it, but does that stop people? No. Lol. Same with RO Server's, or anything in general actually.

@Jericpo

Should make it one of your Rules if you want it to have a bigger effect until people get it through their thick heads. Even though as I said above, it might not help either. But you can atleast punish them in your server if you ask yC for their IP's and/or e-mails. Just saying.

I love how you compare controlling your players voting with people committing murder.

Amayax

Quote from: LemonCrosswalk on Jul 08, 2009, 10:44 PM
I love how you compare controlling your players voting with people committing murder.

I hope that is a compliment ;D

Fyi..was the first thing that came into mind...

jericpo

we already told them a long time ago they wouldn't get any single item/zeny from us. is it illegal to let them write a review? the admin can just delete the spams -_-;

yC

Quote from: jericpo on Jul 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
i am the admin of zeta ro, our previous suspension opened our eyes and ask for reviews legally, we just broadcast at least once a week and ask our players to review zeta RO. we do have a 100-300 player cap, so does having 80+ reviews with a server that has 100-300 players illegal? those who spam are just old players who think they can still get prizes by reviewing, well they don't, because if we do, we'll get suspended again. -_- i don't blame you for suspecting us doing illegal things again, because we got suspended before, but there's always a 2nd chance option.

I really don't think it's that simple.  Of course we keep an eye on ur listing and reviews.  Your OLD listing have been suspended for two weeks before you can create a new listing.  I don't see how your players can get the wrong idea for weeks, that's a pretty long time.  This amuse me.  But you can always say they wrote it because they like your server.  We will not take action unless we (or anyone) find evident of fraud, to be fair.

yC

Quote from: Celeste on Jul 08, 2009, 11:37 AM
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=7905&itv=6&url_sname=ZetaRO&page_num=1



Most of the names have two capital letters like MyName. The grammar and content is very similiar.

Also, they're also advertising things they don't have, and the rates are wrong on their server listing.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7355/aa9a41fd43491fce4e0ac6f.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9618/20078b63c4dbd1249b4d682.jpg


While you are reading, jericpo could you please answer the above also (on the feature and rates)?

It'd save me some time to email a notice to you.  Anyway just need to update your listing on the rates and features I guess.  Thanks.

NemuKru

I have looked at ALL of the reviews, and only one was pertty legit. It's rating was a 51. All the others are on the same topic, same grammar, and etc.; this needs to be looked into more. A few of ZetaRO's players became admins on other servers, from a recent post about such by zRO's owner. @yC, keep your eyes on this one. I just know something's going on here. @jericpo, Stop this madness; tell your players that they WILL NOT gain anything from posting this much reviews. And i dislike your excuse, "Is posting a review illegal?" everytime, think of something else for every post please. Thank you and I will keep watching.

Ready to help, anytime.

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Use that to find me.

kinzoku

If you notice about 80% of the reviews are from people that have played for less than 1 month. There's only about like 2% of the reviews that have legit dates compared to the opening and are not less than one month. Then the other 18% or whatever are people claiming to have played for longer than it's been open. There's a few 6 month reviews and a few 3 months when the server had only been open for 2 months(Although the gap wasn't that much so they could be considered legit) There's also the odd 1 Year From what I read on the site the opening date was "     Up since April 8, 2009 - 100~220 net cap of active players. (as of May 22, 2009) " but that could just be the last crash they had.

Tom~

#20
I can tell you something too

2-3 weeks ago, i joined the server. I was just a simple novice. I was walking in Prontera, looking at the npcs, etc, and soon, Jhake recalled me. Jhake is an admin btw. He talked to me, he said welcome, etc. He showed me the Job Master, i said "Thank You", and he left. 5 Minutes later, he recalled me AGAIN, and he gave me equips. A jacket with a Tao card, angel ears, ice wings, eye of dullahan, custom valkyrie helm, etc, etc. In that moment, i though he was a player, and he was quitting. So i decided to keep the items. BUT! 3 days later, i was talking with a helper, and guess what... Jhake is the admin!  :P


What do you think about that?

He is a great person, but after reading what you have posted, i don't know what to think...  :-[

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

wtfuxx

Quote from: tomaschx on Jul 23, 2009, 02:49 PM
I can tell you something too

2-3 weeks ago, i joined the server. I was just a simple novice. I was walking in Prontera, looking at the npcs, etc, and soon, Jhake recalled me. Jhake is an admin btw. He talked to me, he said welcome, etc. He showed me the Job Master, i said "Thank You", and he left. 5 Minutes later, he recalled me AGAIN, and he gave me equips. A jacket with a Tao card, angel ears, ice wings, eye of dullahan, custom valkyrie helm, etc, etc. In that moment, i though he was a player, and he was quitting. So i decided to keep the items. BUT! 3 days later, i was talking with a helper, and guess what... Jhake is the admin!  :P


What do you think about that?

He is a great person, but after reading what you have posted, i don't know what to think...  :-[

OMG, it happens to me too xD



Tom~

I wonder why Jhake did that. I mean, is not normal o___o?!

Have you ever seen that before?
Maybe we were just lucky, but is too much coincidence...

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

Arasmus

Quote from: tomaschx on Aug 06, 2009, 06:17 PM
I wonder why Jhake did that. I mean, is not normal o___o?!

Have you ever seen that before?
Maybe we were just lucky, but is too much coincidence...
did you have a female character?  ;D

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Cyric

Sounds to  me like they are trying to Dupe the rating system like a certain server I used to work for did.
From Alexander the grammarian; To refrain from fault-finding, and not in a reproachful way to chide those who uttered any barbarous or solecistic or strange-sounding expression; but dexterously to introduce the very expression which ought to have been used, and in the way of answer or giving confirmation, or joining in an inquiry about the thing itself, not about the word, or by some other fit suggestion.

yC

Quote from: DeathCard Founder Cyric on Aug 09, 2009, 01:45 PM
Sounds to  me like they are trying to Dupe the rating system like a certain server I used to work for did.

you totally confuses me ... dupe the rating system? what?

Power

as you can all see this thread started on july 2 which was a month ago. the gm's there announced to the server to stop spamming RMS. the gm team has nothing to do with this. and if you check the reviews they did stop spamming and instead people are starting to write real reviews.

-Power (Cheemo)

jagiwe

i guess this issue is done already?

Power


Tom~

i had a male char o_o

and yes, they stopped spamming reviews, so posibly is over.

;o

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

TeeJay

I just read this whole topic and i think its pretty ridiculous. I have been playing ZeRO for a week now and i think it is a great server. The only better server i have ever seen was aeRO and thy dont work anymore. its pretty unfair to put all this blame on the admin, he isn't the almighty ruler of the server, like others have said, HE CAN'T CONTROL PEOPLE! Who do u think he is? Prof. Xavier? and ppl have every right to post whatever reviews they want. just because YOU don't like the server doesn't mean everybody feels that way. GOD, some real ignorant ppl on here...

LemonCrosswalk

Quote from: TeeJay on Oct 31, 2009, 10:20 PM
I just read this whole topic and i think its pretty ridiculous. I have been playing ZeRO for a week now and i think it is a great server. The only better server i have ever seen was aeRO and thy dont work anymore. its pretty unfair to put all this blame on the admin, he isn't the almighty ruler of the server, like others have said, HE CAN'T CONTROL PEOPLE! Who do u think he is? Prof. Xavier? and ppl have every right to post whatever reviews they want. just because YOU don't like the server doesn't mean everybody feels that way. GOD, some real ignorant ppl on here...
Welcome to three months ago.

Johnsu

I think its very suspicious, as I know for a fact, the server isnt all bread and buttery goodness.

Hot like Mexico.

McManus

I hate to help be a necro, but ya think maybe the admin ISN'T a windy prick, and perhaps his server was up for quite some time before being listed?

yC

This section should be for reporting only.  Issue of the server that is not in direct violation to our Terms of Services can go to hall of shame or server review section.