What is your opinion of a good server?

[DragonHero]

I would love to hear everyones opinions about this whether it be positive or negative.

[Guest]

x3 this topic is very similar to the one bout your dream server


but imo, i guess just lots of people to talk to, people get along, no corruption, no drama, and no huge woe issues, but the lots of people is the biggest thing

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

I guess the difference is between "dream"(ideal) and "acceptable"(good).

[laoganma]

server admin with maturity level of 18+ years old.

[Skotlex]

My opinion of a good server is that it is good, but not good enough as I wish it were.

PS: You probably need to rephrase the thread's title.

[Pandora]

I think this will be repeating some of the stuff said in other topic, heck you can just look at rms criteria and you know what you need to have, stable, available, good community and staff, class balance, woe competition and decent economy.

[superhappyfun]

the most important thing i think is not having one guild of like 100+ people with all the other guilds having like 10 people. it makes me not want to join the server if i see that. my ideal server would have like lots of guilds with all roughly the same number of people in them. makes woe less dominated by one guild.

other than that the usual. stable, decent community etc. etc.

[Pandora]

@super that's very hard to control however, if one guild gets better than the other many people will flock to the strong, specially if said guild offers incentive such as items/zeny/leeching.

[Descent]

@super that's very hard to control however, if one guild gets better than the other many people will flock to the strong, specially if said guild offers incentive such as items/zeny/leeching.

I agree with Pandora, except with an addition: It's absolutely impossible to control. Players are human beings, who will do what they want and go where they want to go. It's human nature.

Trying to put a lock on that aspect will surely spell doom for the server, as the words "Admin" and "dictator" will surface rather quickly.

[Hutchy]

Answering the original question.
Wait.

How do we define "Good"? What makes a successful server? What makes a fun server? Or the general "What makes a server that you'd like to play on"?

Let me start off by saying I'm a lowrate player, and I prefer smaller communities. Hell, I'll basically just reiterate what I said in the Dream Server thread.

For me, a good server is all about the staff and community. If the staff isn't running the place correctly, it shows. If the community is hateful or standoffish, that'd deter me from playing. The staff and community both depend on each other, and their relationship will make or break a server altogether.

From there, a more cosmetic things, I like custom quests/shops/npcs/etc. A lot.

Yup.

[Miya]

A good server is only as good as the community. Unhealthy community = unhealthy server, regardless if the GMs are awesome. For me personally I look at maturity of the staff, preference to 20+ year olds running/maintaining it. RO is an old game and a lot of us started playing when we were 14-17 years old back in the day of iRO beta~ So it shows me  lot when the administration is of an older generation.

Easily accesable NPCs, guides in general locations of things or what the server holds, well-thought out scripts, at least 1-2 GMs active daily for player help, a majority of friendly players (will never find a perfect community of all friendly people hehe), and very easy to get incorporated into the activity of the server! It's devastating to find a server that looks great on their posts- but once inside... it's just so hard to get to talk with people or get questions answered by GMs cause they're too busy chatting with guild mates.

In the end it's all relative to your taste as to what is a "good, successful" server. I myself tend to gravitate to less flame-happy, friendly and intense competition, and a general sense of "wow, i can actually relax in my free time on this server."

[DragonHero]

See what i dont like with some of the servers is that they give out the pornographic info to anyone willing to download them.
a server has to be stabile. yea... but if porn is in it they at least need to show some i.d. to verify they are adults...

I usually like alot of people, and Active events even if they are auto events.
i really dont care if the server uses free sites to advertise and custom a download page. I even do that.

if it can be handled properly all servers can do really well. Just they have to have the motivation to change it.. because in some servers the people that are there have donated to help the server.... But the owner refuses to add more stuff even when the donators request updates. i have been on 3 that were like that so far. i will not name names to prevent drama but they know who they are.

[z123456]

good server;

-no donation/just quest;
-anyrate but 50~100% droprate
-max stat less than 999 & only can max about 3 stat and a half) for more builds
-balance no abusive skill such as coma in clowns

that all~

[Rudolph Zyaber]

A good server to me has any of/all of the following:

-Engaging Gameplay experiences that do not get old very fast
-rewards for being both new and old
-No overpowered donation crap
-Class balance with varied builds available for every class that are actually effective.
-Custom items that aren't hideous
-A good website
-A good forum
-Experienced, mature GM team
-Competitive but respectful community
-Largeish player base (100-500 players)
-Half decent economy
-More to do than just Woe/MVP/sit-in-PVP for lategame players
-Fairly unobtrusive leveling process (i.e: not a major grind)
-Events at least once a week, with one major event at least once a Month.
-Easy-to-install client
-Stat rates that leave builds still open (i.e: no max all stats 150+ thus negating the effectiveness of status effects)

Anyway, those or any combination of those things (without having to have them all at once) would be a good server. Having them all would be a Great/Amazing server.

[CookieEater]

-balance no abusive skill such as coma in clowns

The game is, by itself, balanced. That's why most servers don't adjust things unless we're talking SHR servers, which typically allow for higher levels+stats and thus NEED to adjust things. You just don't like Tarot Card of Fate :p

[z123456]

@cookie

that not what i mean,coz id played a server that clown rulz coz of there coma,its like 50% chance of getting coma in tarot fate of cards
ALWAYS!!,thats why,i mean they might hv reduce the chance of that ^_^

[CookieEater]

@cookie

that not what i mean,coz id played a server that clown rulz coz of there coma,its like 50% chance of getting coma in tarot fate of cards
ALWAYS!!,thats why,i mean they might hv reduce the chance of that ^_^

Dude? It's a 1 out of 14 chance IF Tarot Card of Fate activates in the first place, which is a 2 out of 5 chance. Out of my head, that's only around a 5% chance and the skill has a cast time of 1 second and a delay of 3. That is balanced, like it or not.
That particular server probably did the opposite and 'buffed' the skill...

[Skotlex]

As I've stated before, RO is only balanced when you use it with low rates and a large population, because that's what was had in mind when balancing skills/items.

As you mess around with drop rates, exp rates, max stats and/or levels, the balance just will start tipping to the side and there's a necessary need to start tweaking things all over the place to gain it back.

My two cents.

[Lightning Zero]

A good server in my opinion has a majority of things people want in a server.

Say a SHR/HR server; the main things I would want in a server like that is purely pvp. Why? well because I dont see a point in farming or doing quests and crap when you level to the max lvl and class in the max time of 5 mins so it only makes sense.

As for low rate/mid, I think getting it to a point where its a close as the experience the original ragnarok server gives is perfect for those types of servers. Unlike SHR/HR you do not get to the max lvl in a few mins so you get to experience more of the adventurous gameplay and the hardships of actually "playing for what you get".

Balance is also a key factor and is much easier to achieve than it is in a SHR/HR server.

Overall I just want a server that basically fits the few things I have said because it's my opinion of a good server.

[Karma604]

Hmms...As somebody already said "A good server is only as good as the community". If a server can provide the following things I'd call it "good".

- minimal lag issues
- minimal downtime
- minimal corruption/abuse (almost every server has had some type of corruption or GM abuse)
- qualified staff members (efficient ones would be nice)
- large population with some quality woe-based guild(s)
- active pvp
- no carebear mods in woe threads
- no imbalanced donation crap
- decent rates

[Orange]

No corruption.
Major lols whenever i read public chat.

[Thorfinn]

A good community is essential.

Balanced too, ie. everyone has to go through the same effort to get something.