VaneRO fake population

Started by Fujin021, May 08, 2018, 01:40 AM

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Fujin021

beware of yrvine servers he still doin his old trick on every server
making you believe its populated server to make you play
he still denies his identity while it's pretty obvious

he runs these server now zenRO and vaneRO, mark my word zenRO will close soon since he has vaneRO now

previous servers : onceRO zenRO caseRO etc
i rly think he's doing this gimik for living
run a server, get donates, close it after 3mos , repeat

pr3zs

servers these days are trying to show off they have players but real thing they only have afks and vendors.

Holy Fist

Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 01:40 AM
beware of yrvine servers he still doin his old trick on every server
making you believe its populated server to make you play
he still denies his identity while it's pretty obvious

he runs these server now zenRO and vaneRO, mark my word zenRO will close soon since he has vaneRO now

previous servers : onceRO zenRO caseRO etc
i rly think he's doing this gimik for living
run a server, get donates, close it after 3mos , repeat

No! Do not beware!

I just dont understand this dumb thing that so many people just rely on NUMBERS!
They are just NUMBERS!
What does NUMBERS say about the quality of a server?

Low population servers can have awesome features and vise versa!
Also high population servers can have awesome features and vise versa!
So what is the point relying on numbers? Its stupid!

Ragnarok Online is dying more and more every year!
No Ragnarok fan wants that this happens and there are still some really outstanding servers.
Renewal and pre-renewal.

VaneRO is one example.
I play RO since 2004 on official server and i was already on so many pservers.
And VaneRO is one of the best pre-renewal servers i have ever played!

Why?
I can tell you why.

First, i do NOT rely on stupid numbers!
Second, VanRO has so many and so great features which makes playing RO pre-renewal soooo much better and easier for a busy and full time working guy like me and many others.
The Admin is very active and i already chatted with him so many hours and he is soooo nice and responsive compared to other admins on other servers.
Also my guild members chatted with the admin and he is friendly to everyone and he takes suggestions and feedback from the community which is awesome.
Third, the Admin is always adding continously new content and makes the game better and more balancing than any other pre-re Server out there.
And last but not least, this server never had never a single down time and i play there since launch.

Maybe it is the admin from those servers you talk about or maybe not.
So what now and whats your problem?
The server is awesome and the person which it belongs to is so friendly and responsive!
And also... you do NOT need to donate!!!
Nobody is saying to you that you should throw your money at the Admins face. Nobody!
You can play on VaneRO without donating so why do you bother if other players donate and support this great server?
Keeping up a server is not for free!

Damn... be happy that you can play on that server without spending money.
I really do not get your problem.
Because of people like you, great servers in Ragnarok Online are dying and also RO in general is dying more and more.

I hope some day, you can change your mind to a more neutral one than now.

So please... everyone who still didnt try VaneRO... please try it.
If you like pre-re and upcoming great updates, give it a try. :)

You are all welcome. <3

Yuzo

hopefully kris can try this server and confirm. cos he knows the npc template of Yrvine.

Fujin021

kris and i played a lot of yrvines server
im pretty sure this one is his.
and yea im familliar w/ his NPCs too
@holy s***

lol friendly? he's doin the same again
AFK on maintown24/7 w/ PUB "review us on RMS" or "server is growing" or "like and share event on facebook"
he's not a responsive GM what are u talkin about lol.
ive been in his 5-6 servers alrdy. i wish RMS wud ban his IP and mac in this site so he cant post his servers in RMS again

Holy Fist

Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 07:14 AM
kris and i played a lot of yrvines server
im pretty sure this one is his.
and yea im familliar w/ his NPCs too
@holy s***

lol friendly? he's doin the same again
AFK on maintown24/7 w/ PUB "review us on RMS" or "server is growing" or "like and share event on facebook"
he's not a responsive GM what are u talkin about lol.
ive been in his 5-6 servers alrdy. i wish RMS wud ban his IP and mac in this site so he cant post his servers in RMS again

If you act like in your reviews and in your posts here i really dont wonder that you got ignored from him.

But yes, he also answers on e-mails in less than 24 hours.
And im not the only one who mails him.
Other people from my guild also did and wrote him ingame.
He always wrote back when he was online.

Anywas... what is your problem???
If you dont like the server just go... nobody needs you there then.
If you like being on the server because of its great features then stay.

I dont get you... really.
You just want to harm a really good server because of stupid numbers and because it seems you didnt get attention from the GM because of your unfriendly behavior.

Irvyne or not... he is very nice and friendly.
The server IS an awesome pre-re server with great features and balancing.

Fujin021

good server? lol ppl aint stupid to know what is fake or not.
who is corrupt and not
am i the one who flaming? go post ur own topic then.
im here to warn ppl on a corrupt gm and a fake populated server.
great features? its just a replica on his previous servers lol
trust me u will say  " i shud have listened to God Fujin"
after three months mark my words  /no1  /no1



Emcee

This is obviously a typical person who got banned and raging at that server he got banned on.
Youre not making any point tho, ur problem is this admin dying server fast but you said ZenRO is also his server? But ZenRO is online still and been online for 9 months! I remember that OnceRO was 1 year and a half years old. So ur not making any point if the problem is admin closing server fast because clearly it is not the case on his past pr current servers. Whats new? RO comes and go and its what its like. Youre just raging cause you got banned. I tried this server out and holyfist is making a good point that it is a good server to play on. I recently played cgro which died fast and admin didnt show up. What is the difference? Accept the fact that RO is like that. This VaneRO is good enough to play same admin or not. Just enjoy any servers while they last. Amen.

Fujin021

lol yrvine i know thats u stop making rms accts just to reply and defend your server :) ur just salty coz ur server got deleted here

Holy Fist

Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 09:57 AM
lol yrvine i know thats u stop making rms accts just to reply and defend your server :) ur just salty coz ur server got deleted here

Now you are really joking right?
So in your mind, everyone is Irvyne who loves this server?
So i am Irvyne too right?
You are kidding me...

Sorry but... just stop making servers bad only because of numbers and because you got banned there as it seems...

Be more nice to people and use better communication words and you will get nice answers back from everyone.

Fujin021

LOL dont be mad. its my topic. make ur own topic against me if u want i wont care :) ur rly obvious
im just here to tell the truth and to warn ppl to avoid yrvine's server
im being nice to them. im a concern RO fan
#makeROgreatagain
#DestroyYrvine
#NoToCorruptGMs

BestPlayerEver

I don't even wanna try reading Holy Fist and Emcee's posts. They're both clearly mentally challenged individuals. Fujin is borderline as well but he makes a valid point this time.

It's already known that servers of Yrvine have a fake population. I've borrowed a friends account on ZenRO to PvP and it's constantly 400+ players but PvP and towns are completely vacant. If Prontera is dead with 400 players shown online, it's obviously a hoax.

I really don't know if Emcee/Holy Fist are retarded and actually believe these servers population counts are legit, or they're both Yrvine followers...then again, both make them retarded.

It the end, it doesn't really matter if VaneRO is Yrvine's server. People will still play on it and b**** about Yrvine once it dies again.

I mean ffs, Fujin, you just said you played on 5-6 of Yrvines previous servers.

????

Herpderp

People enjoy getting cucked by GMs like Yrvine, but they think being "self-aware" about getting cucked somehow makes them look less pathetic.  /heh

Satos

#13
Can you explain what the issue is with Yrvine?  I don't even really know who he is.
I've seen enough of these to know he's a server owner that has servers die after awhile.  Some quicker than others...

But I honestly haven't gotten any backstory as to why people are so upset at him.

And as for all the threads saying "this server is going to die" and people logging into RO to spam Main Chat (which VaneRO doesn't have a Main Chat, I noticed) telling everyone the server is going to be dead in 2 weeks....it's not helping ANY RO server.

I was just talking to my wife about this very thing yesterday.

Nobody stays on one server anymore.  And servers cost money to upkeep.
So if a population dwindles, and people aren't donating, then the server owner has to close up.

If I run a business, I have a threshold that I have to say, "We can operate as long as we make more than $XXX.xx/month."
If I have a bunch of people that enjoy my business, and pay for my services regularly, I can keep operating.
At some point, it doesn't matter if I want to continue running my business or not....if I am not meeting the bare minimum income to keep my bills paid; I'm going to have to close up.

Where I'm going with this is...for some people, they've talked about a prepaid server for a year in advance, to guarantee the costs are met; and there is a sense of security for the community.  Hoping that they can prevent the population dwindle that happens.

For other people, Ragnarok servers ARE their source of income.  So their minimum income threshold is going to be larger, because they are trying to fund their own life off of the server income.

Spoiler
Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 01:40 AM
beware of yrvine servers he still doin his old trick on every server
making you believe its populated server to make you play
he still denies his identity while it's pretty obvious

he runs these server now zenRO and vaneRO, mark my word zenRO will close soon since he has vaneRO now

previous servers : onceRO zenRO caseRO etc
i rly think he's doing this gimik for living
run a server, get donates, close it after 3mos , repeat
[close]

If you have a problem with THAT, then just say so.
Say "So and so lives off of the small business he has made running Ragnarok servers, and I don't agree with that.  It's more expensive for the RO player base, and causes a shorter lifespan for his servers, because they close up more frequently.  And I think more people get duped into paying for the exact same pay-to-win items on EVERY new server he launches.  And I've bought that stupid I Love China Hat for $15, eight times now, and I just want everyone to know it's a never ending plot to get money, because the server owner is trying to make a living off of his servers!"

But all I ever hear is "He's evil!" "He's just taking your money."  "He doesn't care." or "It's a plot!"
I guarantee you he cares about his small business.
If he wants to try and make a living off of a viable small business, then that's his choice.

I run a lawn mowing service.  I care about my business.  If I have upset customers, I'd prefer to make it satisfactory, instead of them running around behind me telling all my current clients that I am an evil person, and will just take their money, and not care about the quality of my service.
That hurts my livelihood.  And believe me, I've had some very rude people do that before.
I lost my largest client because some lady that worked there complained EVERY week about something.
She then convinced the company that the guy that mows her lawn is much better, so they hired him.
The lawn looks EXACTLY the same.  She just had a problem with MY business because her guy wasn't the one doing it.
That ended up costing me a $16,000 contract at the end of that year.

I'm not trying to defend the guy.  I'm just trying to let you know that you are contributing to the problem.
The more you try to spread the word that the server is going to die....the more people that don't know anything about the past situations are going to believe you.
And then they stop playing, to try and find a more stable server.
And a server that could potentially last for a year and a half, dies in 6 months.  And the business owner has to start a new one, to try to bring people back.

You are more of a problem, by spreading slander like this, than the server owner is by having to close a server because he cannot meet his income threshold.

My 2 cents, sir.

My advice for you.  Get a life outside of Ragnarok .  You and several others seem to have made it your life's duty to harass this guy out of every business he's tried to create.  Find something that makes you happy.  Because it obviously isn't Ragnarok.
Let the people that enjoy his services, enjoy them in peace.


And just because someone will accuse me, or ask; yes I have played on a few of the servers you've listed as being his.
Have I donated?  Yes, about $10 each time.
Do I like that the servers close?  Nope, I think it sucks also.  And I feel like it's a waste of money.
Do I keep going back?  Yep, because I DO like his setup he's got going.  And his prices for some of the basic paid items are cheaper than other servers.
Do I think the population numbers are faked?  Starting out, no.  Later....perhaps/probably.
Am I a fanboy of his?  Absolutely not.  I'm just not anti-him either.
Do I think Ragnarok as a whole would be more stable if people didn't try to ddos/spam chat/spread slander?  Yep.

But I think what we have is 50 server owners trying to compete for 5-7 good stable servers of Ragnarok business.
So we see a lot of fighting over populations and money.

veear

Quote from: Satos on May 08, 2018, 11:12 PM
Can you explain what the issue is with Yrvine?  I don't even really know who he is.
I've seen enough of these to know he's a server owner that has servers die after awhile.  Some quicker than others...
Literally the first guy in the gm hall of shame list  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯