The ScytheRO Server is up for auction!!

Started by Shomesta, Jan 24, 2009, 12:14 PM

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Zone

Well, I am going to be honest, I would bid.
However, I myself am in the same pool as Zairik is, I don't have much time to work on a video game as it is.
However, because of recent changes I will have more time than I have had recently.
With that said, I still wouldn't bid on it because I have better things to put my time and money into.
Zairik is doing a wise thing right now, rather than let it die, he is going to let someone continue on the server.
I'd really like to see it end up in good hands though.

Irrelevant

If keeping the server up without Zairik having to run it was the issue, wouldn't donations cover that up?

Guest

just a note to everyone, i asked yC and no you cannot have this topic removed ^^;;;

Zone

Quote from: Irrelevant on Jan 24, 2009, 03:21 PM
If keeping the server up without Zairik having to run it was the issue, wouldn't donations cover that up?
Well, technically speaking, that's what it's doing and has been doing for a while.

Omi

I understand the whole giving it to another user thing, but if the users going to be running the server, having an auction for who will take over to pay off the host makes no sense when they should be able to pay for the host.  The one thing I don't like is that you said you'd pocket anything left over for you for future projects.  Everything paid for the server should go towards the server.  Thats how I see it atleast.  It's (going to be) your money though, so you can do as you please.

Zone

Why would Zairik put money towards the server he is auctioning?
He wants to get Scryed his money, and that's it.
If he makes extra he can use it as a payment for his hard work on the server.

Omi

..Oh, I read it wrong.  Thinking of it now, what I thought he said didn't make any sense at all.


Guest

i see a down side and an upside to something like this

on the upside, the person that buys it could really really care and thats why their spending a TON of money for it

on the downside, the person that buys it could just want power and authority, which will pretty much mess things up big time...

A92FL0163

Scythe RO is a nice server, too bad sometimes RO just takes too much of you and gives too little. I don't think a auction would be the best way to solve this, you could just have a cheaper host machine and saved some money until you could have paid the debt, but that would be way too much work for someone who got little time in the hands. Like everyone, I was going to suggest to give it administration spot to another person who you would trust instead of just auctioning it, but looking at the other side of the coin now, that seems it would just leave you and Scryed, that worked a lot already, with more problems.
Well, best of luck into finding a actual bidder that know how to work with server stuff and can work with the server when you leave the management, so he can still run the server and not like abuse their power. Just hope he isn't a total douche that will ruin the name of Scythe RO.
Good Luck with any future projects you have, and thanks for posting your side, I was afraid you were like other Private Servers administrators that was just going to self profit.


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Irrelevant

So far the best bidder has 95 bucks, which I'm sure can't even pay a month's expenses unless sRO is run on a VPS. Let alone he mentions "his bid is serious, lol.", furthermore proving the theory that sRO will get a new admin with little to no experience on the job. This will inevitably mean the server will die and, most likely, in a pathetic fashion. The whole gist of it is that Zairik won't be around for the fall, plus he will get a buck out of it.

A92FL0163

There is still a good chance that he will not know what he is doing and ask help to other servers GM or recruit people that actually know how to run a server, host it for a while till they can donate the same amount of money that cost the server, and maybe in some months, the server will be full of people, even if ran by a newbie on eAthena.

Let's try to keep optimistic.

Irrelevant

#26
Some people -myself included- prefer realistic.

Edit: Plus he mentioned that after the auction is done, he will not respond to any kind of question that regards SchyteRO, which leaves your option quite slim in the chance matters.

PoisonWolf

Quote from: Zairik on Jan 24, 2009, 03:01 PM
I'm not looking for approval from people here who get on their high-horse acting like a know-it-all.  I spent 2 long years on this server, if you want to ignore that then fine, but the players haven't forgotten.  It's just that due to my job as a Webmaster, I don't even have time, I'm just burning myself out trying to work all day long in front of a computer just to come home and work all night long on a hobby and get little sleep for the next day of work.  The point of the auction is to offer it to the players without bias, as in it's not a personal choice to pick out someone to hand it off to, but also pays for the server because the money is going to Scryed first to pay off any cost and then whatever is left over (if anything) goes to me for future projects.  The disclaimer at the end of the post about a possible new project was to stop rumors if I wanted to help with a smaller project that Scryed and I and several others might want to try as a team (not as an all-burdon-on-me thing).  ScytheRO is not dead, ScytheRO is very much alive, which is why it's so hard for me to manage it since I don't have much time anymore.  People who claim I have plenty of free time need to fact check, and people who think I'm just auctioning for money don't know me at all. 

My original plan (which I thought was great at first) was to release the source code (user data removed) for free to everyone so that other servers could use us as an example (ask Scryed to prove it), but Scryed needs money to host the server so that plan was given up on after three long discussions.  Eventually I came up with the idea of an auction to both continue ScytheRO without me personally running it, and keep Scryed (our server host manager for 2 years) from going into debt over a server he originally let me run for free until ScytheRO started making enough money to pay for itself (which was a huge help).  So no, it's not a money grab, it's just to avoid putting Scryed into debt over a server he helped me host.  Money first goes to him to pay off the cost of the server and then to me (if any is left over) for any future projects I work on.  I do make (somewhat amateur) computer games and computer applications outside of eAthena.

Zairik,

When you said "then to me (if any is left over) for any future projects I work on.", you really could have just skipped the first part of the sentence. My goodness, it takes so much skill in maintaining a SHR, let alone the effort you must have poured into it in 2 years.

"So no, it's not a money grab", so yes, it is a money grab. When you want money, just say you want money to pay off the server debts, etc. Don't try and sound that you're actually noble in the process. You could have just paid of all the debt yourself to whoever the host is and willingly handed it to someone else who is competent enough to take over. If you did that, then I'd say it's not a money grab. So please, save your excuses.

Honestly, if you want out, you want out. Please stop the cow-dung and fertilizers about how you are grilling yourself with the A1-steak sauce just trying to "keep" Scythe running. I've been in this business for 3 years. I need to work, go to school, finish my thesis, etc as well. So until you're losing limbs, just keep your cow-dung in the fridge. If you want out, you want out. Just say it. I'd respect that notion rather than you trying to lie through your teeth as though you are some noble messiah who has sacrificed his soul just to keep the server going.

You know what I see from all this nonsense that you've spewed Zairik? You got sick and tired of hosting and you want a way to get out clean without any debt. No strings attached. You couldn't even give a hoot if ScytheRO survives after you leave. That's why you're auctioning it off rather than choosing someone competent (right now, the person you really want is the one with the fattest wallet. Brains are not a necessity, just the biggest Paypal account). But hey, you want out, you want out, I get that. Just don't try and sound e-noble next time, okay? Cause honestly? There is no such thing as "I don't have much time anymore". If you want to do it, you'll make time for it.

Cheers,
P.S. - "I'm not looking for approval from people here who get on their high-horse acting like a know-it-all." That's funny, coming from the person who tells GMs that they are not doing their jobs if they are playing legits.

Shomesta

theres no such thing as legits...
best offer is 150$$

Zone

no my offer is over $9000
no one has come near it.