TalonRO Could Be Good But...

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DeePee

#15
Quote from: Decist on May 02, 2015, 06:57 AM
Your server is quite good. But it could get even bigger if you remove those damned custom items that separates the community into two (Vanilla WOE/PVP and RICH kids WOE/PVP). Also, you integrated boss cards as part of donation, which is a major turn off for most hard core players out there. Heck, I mean come on, GGRO was able to amass players in a short amount of time because of not having the features that your server has.

GM Boreas also who likes meddling with player affairs. I remember getting most of our guild mates muted due to talking back to the opposing trash talking guild. And guess what, the other guild didn't get muted at all. Also, I got muted by your GM team multiple times because of KSing. Even though I didn't KS at all, I got reported without ever having any proper proof (eg. hitting a monster first and then this dude hits it and takes a screenshot. Boom, reported = mute). Well anyway, that was a very long time ago.

I didn't mind being ksed by other players at all, so long as they let me do the same. the problem is when I do the same to the kser, he will secretly report me without even telling me to stop. And you think that is good enough to f*** mute a player?

Learn from GGRO, they odn't have any s*** rules like what your server. The only problem they had is a s*** authority/corruption crisis.

It doesn't really separate the community. Most of our players like our custom items and enjoy playing with them in, for example, PvM. Then in WoE and PvP they may decide to play Vanilla style or they can in fact play both. WoE times are separated so they can join all types they desire :) We are not catering towards hardcore players at all because they are not a stable community. Most hardcore players server hop all the time and just want to join the "next big thing". A lot of them are quite toxic, which you could see at ggRO's community. It was really, really bad (perhaps even the most toxic community I've ever seen on a RO server) and we don't ever want to have a community like they did. Part of it was due to the GMs just not caring about KSing and trashtalking or just being lazy. What I've noticed there however is that players were really, really toxic and it was not a community I'd like to join.

While tRO might be strict, it keeps our community mostly friendly and to me it's a much nicer place to stay. I'd rather go for the casual player than for the hardcore RO player because of those reasons. ggRO only got a lot of players because of hype. It initially got big because of HotshotGG's involvement and after the initial burst of players it became a hype that everyone had to join because everyone and their mother was playing it. However, their community demanded big updates pretty much every week. No GM team could ever satisfy them, no matter how much they do their best. That's part of the downfall. Not just HotshotGG's disappearance, not Cookie's involvement but for a large part the toxic and demanding community. I definitely do not want to "learn" from them as there is literally nothing worth learning from that server, no matter how big they were.

And while it seems that GMs are unfair and unjust at times, in a timespan of 8 years I don't think it's that bad at all. Sure, mistakes are made at times, both from a player's side and a GM's side but after being up for so many years, things like those just happen. If you count all the ranting topics on RMS you'll notice that at least half of them are by players who are ranting because they were banned or punished while only a few are about other matters. Again, in a timespan of 8 years, that's not a lot at all.

I perfectly understand that our server does not cater towards all kinds of players. We inherited a server (animaRO) that was mostly focused on donating. You cannot just wipe a server like that or get rid of the items that people grow accustomed to, that's a death sentence to the server. Instead we chose to work with what we had and make things more accessible to every player out there. Implementing a reward system that allows the common players to obtain these gears, adding powerful rental items that can be obtained through questing and hunting, adding the Vanilla mode to cater towards those who want a more "original" RO experience, et cetera.

Again, I understand completely that TalonRO is not for everyone. The same goes for many servers out there though. We all focus on different kinds of players and that's perfectly fine. We decided we want to focus on players who just enjoy socializing, playing together and who like high-paced end-game action and in the end it's working for us. If we would have focused on hardcore RO players, the server would have died 7 years ago.

Quote from: IvoryMouse on May 02, 2015, 09:26 AM
It's not bitterness, it's called being real. If you must delude yourself into thinking your server is the cream of the crop, then you need to sit down and re-think your life. Each server has their up's and down's. If you can't come to terms on how your server has potentially screwed another player over who writes reviews, then that's on you.  "Haters/Angry People" these people are the ones who either make or break servers. If they write detailed reviews going over their experience on your server, then I'm sorry to say people are going to move away from your server.. You've been here for 8 year, that's great but let me give you a bit of advice a wise man once told me when I was a child. Nothing last forever, things eventually come to an end. This includes life itself. The longevity of your server solely rest on the shoulders of your playerbase.  If they are not happy, you will very much hear and see about it in no time flat.  /no1

You are just forgetting one thing: our community in fact is quite happy. People on RMS seem to have this impression that TalonRO is a horrible place to play and that nobody enjoys it, but that's not the case at all. We have a lot of players because people enjoy playing our server. There have been a couple of these extensive reviews but they don't really affect things at all. There are only a few "incidents" that have led people to write angry reviews but keep in mind that we have thousands of players. One or two angry reviews on RMS does not mean that our playerbase is not happy; quite the contrary in fact. Nobody claims that we are the best server. There are always things to improve (especially when it comes to PvP and WoE) and we continue to work hard to make the server a more enjoyable place to stay. Nothing lasts forever indeed, but as long as people keep enjoying our server, we keep working to provide them with a fun Ragnarok experience. :)

IvoryMouse

I believe you guys were called ScytheRO back in the day right /? I had fun on ScytheRO. I haven't officially tried Talon out yet, so I might give you guys a shot.
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DeePee

Nope, we've never been ScytheRO :o

Cawliflower

TalonRO is a consistent, stable server with a loyal, dedicated and reliable staff team. Quite frankly, it has proved its placement and I don't really see it going anywhere/changing dramatically from a nit-picky review on RMS. Could be wrong, anyway. I'm sure they at least read the reviews, and consider the ideas proposed though. Anyway, they've got a niche audience that appreciates the customization, and changes they've made to the game along-side the custom content. I must say, I'm quite impressed with their new editions of the Talonian. Kudos to Boreas and his team - it's very new-age web and modern. Too bad Gravity never got with the program.
Quoteyesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

DivinityRO 6.9 coming soon!

IvoryMouse

Suffice to say I can't mess with Talon RO I don't like Low Rate RO Servers. Too boring for me. If I wanted low rate I'd go play retail.
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infinityring

#20
I never thought I would see this! hahahahaha  /ok

I was just banned. 20 mins ago. (Just check the time I posted this xD)

And guess what? GM Boreas banned me for creating a name, named after Hitler (My name was The Fuhrer, not even the actual name.) His reason?  /hmm He's German and there might be Jews in the server. Server Rules? /hmm "Don't make a name that might directly or indirectly hurt other players." Report from other players? 0. Boreas' sensitivity? 999999999.

His reply? (while I was using "sir" to completely respect him) "I'm German. And do you know what that man did? We don't need you here. Good luck finding another server./wah

I was about to take a screeny but in a matter of secs, "You're not allowed to post in this forum." "Chose a name of a horrible dictator who killed millions of people."

What makes it interesting is that: 1st, Nobody reported. 2nd, he was the one who was DIRECTLY hurt.

Note: Be mindful if you play this server, the GM is incredibly sensitive. xD  /gg

Extra Notes (xD): Professionalism is what I'm after not your s*** reviews or being no. 1 blah blah blah (Like what? He could have warned the player and ask the player to get a support ticket to change his name. This server offers it, right?)

DeePee

Or...you just don't name yourself The Fuhrer? We received various reports about it. No sane person would make names like that.

Suspension

Quote from: DeePee on May 10, 2015, 11:46 AM
Or...you just don't name yourself The Fuhrer? We received various reports about it. No sane person would make names like that.

Why not? It just means "Leader".

Adolf Hitler was a fuhrer, but not every fuhrer was Adolf Hitler.
Quote from: exii on Jun 27, 2015, 06:07 AM
If you think casting quag is a good idea you or your guild heavily failed to create a viable guild rost.

infinityring

#23
Quote from: Suspension on May 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Why not? It just means "Leader".

Adolf Hitler was a fuhrer, but not every fuhrer was Adolf Hitler.

Well, I understand their "emotions" bro. It's like saying "This stuff doesn't have a good quality. Oh, it's made in China." (If you get my point.) But, what I couldn't stand is just the "not being professional."

And one more thing though, if he was German, he would have thought the same way but didn't. He couldn't move on not like our Jap friends who, most of them, are professional in dealing with these kinds of topic.


Quote from: DeePee on May 10, 2015, 11:46 AM
Or...you just don't name yourself The Fuhrer? We received various reports about it. No sane person would make names like that.


Your server offers a change name right? iirc. Your GM Boreas should have used it and not directly ban a player.



DeePee

#24
Quote from: Suspension on May 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Why not? It just means "Leader".

Adolf Hitler was a fuhrer, but not every fuhrer was Adolf Hitler.

For the same reason that a black swastika on a red flag is not deemed appropriate. Some names are just not appropriate and people choose these purposely while acting innocent. That just doesn't fly.

We have received multiple reports about your name, so yes, it's offensive to quite some people. You were asked multiple times why you'd use that name and said that you used Hitler's "nickname". That's just something we don't want on the server.

Suspension

Quote from: DeePee on May 10, 2015, 11:53 AM
For the same reason that a black swastika on a red flag is not deemed appropriate.

It's not the same. You're describing directly the nazi flag. Maybe the swastika alone could be comparable, but yet again that's people missinformation.

QuoteWe have received multiple reports about your name, so yes, it's offensive to quite some people.

What? I don't even know your server. Was that intended for other person?
Quote from: exii on Jun 27, 2015, 06:07 AM
If you think casting quag is a good idea you or your guild heavily failed to create a viable guild rost.

infinityring

Quote from: Suspension on May 10, 2015, 12:23 PM
It's not the same. You're describing directly the nazi flag. Maybe the swastika alone could be comparable, but yet again that's people missinformation.

What? I don't even know your server. Was that intended for other person?

It was for me bro. Sorry about that.

Quote from: DeePee on May 10, 2015, 11:53 AM
For the same reason that a black swastika on a red flag is not deemed appropriate. Some names are just not appropriate and people choose these purposely while acting innocent. That just doesn't fly.

We have received multiple reports about your name, so yes, it's offensive to quite some people.

Multiple reports? (I'm a person who is evidence-based. He should have given me some links about this.)And, If the GM Team was really active in this server, I would have been banned since the first week I joined the community, I was even chatting in !main for quite some time. Why am I banned just now? Because I was chatting with people in !main and "he" saw it.

Anyway, I understand your side since that's your view on the server. And again, the important thing was that he would have dealt with the problem professionally.

IvoryMouse

Quote from: DeePee on May 10, 2015, 11:53 AM
For the same reason that a black swastika on a red flag is not deemed appropriate. Some names are just not appropriate and people choose these purposely while acting innocent. That just doesn't fly.

We have received multiple reports about your name, so yes, it's offensive to quite some people. You were asked multiple times why you'd use that name and said that you used Hitler's "nickname". That's just something we don't want on the server.

That's a crapshoot lie. If that was the case Full Metal Alchemist would've been taken off the air. King Bradley or  The Furher in this case was the leader of Central, and Full Metal Alchemist was based on the principles and ranks of the german army. Furher in German means leader. Just like in the english language President means Leader of the United States. It's a title which shows authority. Why people are insecure NOW with this years generation about an incident that had nothing to do with them is beyond me. I don't care if it was their ancestors. It wasn't them directly.  To those sensitive people out there, eat a bowl of cement and harden the hell up please. This is nonsense.

It's even worse if the GM condoned it, you have the ability to change people's names. You should've done that instead of straight up banning out of malice. It makes me wonder about the people who run their servers are so insecure, that they just block things out instead of actually talking like a reasonable adult. That's my $0.02 on this topic.

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Ewol

Glad I never played this server. That's stupid as hell.

DeePee

Glad you never did, indeed. We enjoy our community with minimal bad apples for 8 years and counting :)

In the end, we have strict rules and it works for us. If one decides to not follow them, that's their own responsibility.