Ragnarok Online Last moments

Started by cmsm94, Apr 18, 2015, 06:45 AM

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cmsm94

Hi there, /heh

As we know RO is a long and very old game. I've been switching servers to server. I have an account in RMS which I forgot. We all have been into situation like switching from servers to server with buddy of course. Frankly saying RO is a memorable game. What made me stay in RO is because of a girl that I used to know that play RO. Should have never dump her just like that. Her name was Caitlyn Ong /lv. This is my reason why I continue playing RO ever since all my bro quit RO around 2006. /hmm

Love? /kis /kis2 I guess so, she would call everyday, talk stories on the phone, chat until one of us fall asleep, etc la.... That was when RO was a fun game. Guess what we broke up. My fault.

Ragnarok Online har? How I started ragnarok online, Young days. I would skip school just to go CC to play. It was free during those days 2001. Im talking behalf of Malaysian RO players.

What im seeing RO is not working anymore, compare to some other old games, they still have that fun it in where else RO is just a struggle game. What i mean is that there are many private servers, why can we have 1 best server of all time that could literally beat the official server. /sob

The private server im playing now(not ro) 2011-2015 they are way better then official server, they have 100% active players 0% bots, afk bastards. The way they make this server so active is the quest that they give. Many ro server have turn into a pvp server. RO is bad in questing. I know there are some ppl who like RO quest, im not saying that they are that bad it just that it is f*** bad at entertaining the players. Another problem with RO is that the players are all aggressive. How could a server build when your own nesting point have a bomb in it. If you starting to like a server then suddenly someone started to ruin it for you, same goes for the game master who think they are everything, coming out from a guy who quited ro 2 years already.  /sob /an

Another problem with RO the game masters, most of them are not paid therefore they dont do their work according to plan. They slacks. The players would just sit in town and afk when they are not doing anything because they have done everything that the server can offer. /pif

Fifth thing is that, server tends to give lots of lots of benefits to the players, like "If you join my server you will get 5 MVP card 2 Mini boss card" Where is the f*** hell fun in that if you just throw that hard to get stuff to these players. Many server fail to keep the players occupied. /omg

Sixth, there are many private server, can we all stick to one??? Please, please for god sake f*** stay to 1 server only. If you still want to leave make sure that the server is a noob server. A server that have lots of lots of npc that made, map that made, music etc all that are made from ppl. RO is an Art pleaase people respect it and appreciate it. /??

How is the server dying? Let me tell you how. /?
1. A smartass admin would lie to players that the server have lots of players, example you check the website have 200 players online. When you log in all of them are @autotraders
2. Bad gms and admin
3. Bad ppl in the game that spoil the fruit(game quality)
4. Everything is given to the players
5. There is nothing else to do just to sit in town and chat until one got really bored of the server and want to leave, and onces 1 leave all of their friend will leave.
6. Hackers, let me make an essay on this f***.

RO is piece of art that is made from the year 2001/2000. I just cant understand why this a****** would like to destroy the server, it is because it would be popular and you wont get the income of the admin ? Because you didnt make the art of this server. Why would you do that. If RO is dead its because of you. One thing that I can understand but still furious is that big servers tend to break small server just to get back their player. Its either that or vice versa. Why? just why? Don't do that if your server is good players will just come to your server.

RO is mostly about soloing. Thats really boring. How about doing quest with a party together to gain something. If we play alone we get bored, but if we play while talking with people we entertain ourself and so the other player, which would make the quest more enjoyable. I have one server to recommend pm me if you want to know.

Another thing is that, make a server that is easy yet challenging to a player man common dont give everything to them. STICK to ONE server please. RO wont die if you do that.

I got to go, been writing this about 30minute-1hour

(Excuse my english) I know yours better. /no1

Playtester

QuoteWhat im seeing RO is not working anymore, compare to some other old games, they still have that fun it in where else RO is just a struggle game.
For me that's more the opposite. RO is the only old MMORPG that I still enjoy playing even today.

Quotewhy can we have 1 best server of all time that could literally beat the official server.
Everybody wants something else. It already starts with 80% wanting autoloot and 20% not wanting it.

QuoteThe private server im playing now(not ro) 2011-2015 they are way better then official server, they have 100% active players 0% bots, afk bastards.
There are several RO private servers that are better than the officials servers too. Basically every private servers has less bots and afkers than official iRO, that's for sure.

QuoteMany ro server have turn into a pvp server. RO is bad in questing. I know there are some ppl who like RO quest, im not saying that they are that bad it just that it is f*** bad at entertaining the players. Another problem with RO is that the players are all aggressive. How could a server build when your own nesting point have a bomb in it. If you starting to like a server then suddenly someone started to ruin it for you, same goes for the game master who think they are everything, coming out from a guy who quited ro 2 years already.
Welcome to competitive MMORPG gaming.

Don't go to servers with a high population if you don't like the PVP aspect of the game, because those are the servers were all the PVP players come together as a high population is quite important for WoE.

If you want a friendly PVM driven community, there are plenty smaller servers in which people just play for fun.

QuoteFifth thing is that, server tends to give lots of lots of benefits to the players, like "If you join my server you will get 5 MVP card 2 Mini boss card" Where is the f*** hell fun in that if you just throw that hard to get stuff to these players. Many server fail to keep the players occupied. /omg
There are trying to lure in more players so they can keep their population count high. If they don't actively do something, any PVP-driven server will die within 3 months.

Again, go to a smaller server that exists for years even though it only has 10-20 players. You won't see such problems there.

QuoteSixth, there are many private server, can we all stick to one??? Please, please for god sake f*** stay to 1 server only.
See above, everybody has a different taste. There are so many private servers because there is so much demand for different things. Low rate, mid rate, high rate, no customization, minimal customization, heavy customization, PVP focus, PVM focus, easy or challenging...

Quote1. A smartass admin would lie to players that the server have lots of players, example you check the website have 200 players online. When you log in all of them are @autotraders
Common practice to include autotraders these days. If server shows real player count and that is a one-digit number, nobody will join and server will never grow. Only other options is to not show player count at all. Some servers actually started doing that.

Quote2. Bad gms and admin
3. Bad ppl in the game that spoil the fruit(game quality)
Yeah, pretty common, but not always the case.

Quote4. Everything is given to the players
Doesn't happen on most low rates, imo.

Quote5. There is nothing else to do just to sit in town and chat until one got really bored of the server and want to leave, and onces 1 leave all of their friend will leave.
The admin isn't responsible for you not going on an adventure, though. If you want fun in RO, you can have fun. Organize a party and play together for the fun.

Quote6. Hackers, let me make an essay on this f***.
There isn't really much hacking in RO other than reducing your skill delays a bit (which can easily be countered by a good server-sided implementation) and see hidden targets.

Neffletics

Quote from: cmsm94 on Apr 18, 2015, 06:45 AM
How is the server dying? Let me tell you how. /?
1. A smartass admin would lie to players that the server have lots of players, example you check the website have 200 players online. When you log in all of them are @autotraders
2. Bad gms and admin
3. Bad ppl in the game that spoil the fruit(game quality)
4. Everything is given to the players
5. There is nothing else to do just to sit in town and chat until one got really bored of the server and want to leave, and onces 1 leave all of their friend will leave.
6. Hackers, let me make an essay on this f***.
Toxic admins/staffs and players are the main reason why most of the servers today die in few weeks.
solacero rip

cmsm94

Quote from: Playtester on Apr 20, 2015, 06:18 AM
For me that's more the opposite. RO is the only old MMORPG that I still enjoy playing even today.
Everybody wants something else. It already starts with 80% wanting autoloot and 20% not wanting it.
There are several RO private servers that are better than the officials servers too. Basically every private servers has less bots and afkers than official iRO, that's for sure.
Welcome to competitive MMORPG gaming.

Don't go to servers with a high population if you don't like the PVP aspect of the game, because those are the servers were all the PVP players come together as a high population is quite important for WoE.

If you want a friendly PVM driven community, there are plenty smaller servers in which people just play for fun.
There are trying to lure in more players so they can keep their population count high. If they don't actively do something, any PVP-driven server will die within 3 months.

Again, go to a smaller server that exists for years even though it only has 10-20 players. You won't see such problems there.
See above, everybody has a different taste. There are so many private servers because there is so much demand for different things. Low rate, mid rate, high rate, no customization, minimal customization, heavy customization, PVP focus, PVM focus, easy or challenging...
Common practice to include autotraders these days. If server shows real player count and that is a one-digit number, nobody will join and server will never grow. Only other options is to not show player count at all. Some servers actually started doing that.
Yeah, pretty common, but not always the case.
Doesn't happen on most low rates, imo.
The admin isn't responsible for you not going on an adventure, though. If you want fun in RO, you can have fun. Organize a party and play together for the fun.
There isn't really much hacking in RO other than reducing your skill delays a bit (which can easily be countered by a good server-sided implementation) and see hidden targets.

Listen up again. So what can you do to change that? Bad Admins and players? If players wants something, make them earn in a proper way and creative way. If they wants autoloot example, dont f*** simply give them @autoloot, make an npc that gives you like 2 hours of autoloot for 10billion zeny for example, your choice. How they earn zeny its all up to them. You want to make a gold room to hunt zeny? How will your market survive you tell me. One hit dokebi 10 golds. 10 minutes 200m. Isnt this ridiculous? Where is the fun in that? RO is dieing because of servers that gives high expectation but when you play for awhile you get bored since everything is easy.

Even if they trying to lure players to their server, the items that they gives will bored them later. Since they have those items already surely they will make dual screen etc to get more and more of that since thats the most easiest way to earn their way through.

The admin is responsible bro for your adventure and quest. Since basically every RO is already made up the same way, only a little twek here and there the ro survive because of how the players get attention in the game. RO is a solo game basically, if you can turn it into friendly and party/guild quest kind of environment it would be great.

Whats your point on autotraders?

What i meant for hacking is, overloading the server. Disconnect the server. Etc Etc.

cmsm94

Quote from: Neffletics on Apr 22, 2015, 10:51 PM
Toxic admins/staffs and players are the main reason why most of the servers today die in few weeks.

Yeah, how can you change that?  /swt  /hmm /hmm  /?

How creative can you be?

Dragon in Jacket

As for why we cannot stick to one particular server, I have to agree with Playtester.
Different players are attracted by different features. The best example would be the diversity we have rate-wise. Even servers among the same rates aren't consistent: pre-RE or RE? features, commands, etc... Even if there were one big server, someone would decide to create one with the exact same rates, but with different features and that will be enough to attract players, thus dividing the community.


Playtester

Still, if a player wants autoloot he goes to a server that offers autoloot for free and without restrictions. You can't cater to everyone at the same time, it's impossible.

And most humans don't actually apply such kind of long-term thinking. They go to a server that is fun to them and if they get bored they simply quit. They have no reason not to quit. They don't suffer any disadvantages themselves when quitting. Then can just play another game or go to a new server. And it's their good right to do so.

Neffletics

Quote from: cmsm94 on Apr 24, 2015, 11:10 PM
Yeah, how can you change that?  /swt  /hmm /hmm  /?

How creative can you be?

Do not hire immature staff for your server. Enforce your rules.
When rules aren't enforced, retarded players will start breaking rules knowing that gms doesn't give a f*** about the law.

As what Playtester said, people can choose where they want to play so you can't really force them to stay. There are few loyal players nowadays. Most of the loyal players are already at TalonRO.
solacero rip

Duckshooter

Quote from: cmsm94 on Apr 24, 2015, 11:08 PM
Listen up again. So what can you do to change that? Bad Admins and players? If players wants something, make them earn in a proper way and creative way. If they wants autoloot example, dont f*** simply give them @autoloot, make an npc that gives you like 2 hours of autoloot for 10billion zeny for example, your choice. How they earn zeny its all up to them. You want to make a gold room to hunt zeny? How will your market survive you tell me. One hit dokebi 10 golds. 10 minutes 200m. Isnt this ridiculous? Where is the fun in that? RO is dieing because of servers that gives high expectation but when you play for awhile you get bored since everything is easy.

Even if they trying to lure players to their server, the items that they gives will bored them later. Since they have those items already surely they will make dual screen etc to get more and more of that since thats the most easiest way to earn their way through.

The admin is responsible bro for your adventure and quest. Since basically every RO is already made up the same way, only a little twek here and there the ro survive because of how the players get attention in the game. RO is a solo game basically, if you can turn it into friendly and party/guild quest kind of environment it would be great.

Whats your point on autotraders?

What i meant for hacking is, overloading the server. Disconnect the server. Etc Etc.

I think you do not understand that things you like/hate are not the same for others. It's not possible to create a server that fits everybodies needs and wishes.
I totally agree with what Playtester wrote and I'll skip the part where I repeat it in my own words because I think it's a waste of time telling you the same things that you already didnt agree to.

RO's situation is kinda sad, that's true, but there are many low rate servers that wont give things away for free, you got to work for your stuff BUT after 14 years of Ragnarok there are not THAT many people left who still want to farm the same items over and over again so many of them pick an "easy/fast fun" server. It's not what I personally enjoy but I can understand why others do.

About bad people/bad admins: You'll never change the people but you can reduce the amount of bad admins by not supporting the servers they are creating. Bad people in general....well...thats life :)