Successfuly Running a Server

[laoganma]

I love GM'ing. On every server I've GM'ed for....I never had a regular account.

you are one of the best GMs out there. 

Why? Because if you want to be a GM, you should be a game MASTER, not a game PLAYER. If you are a GM, you should know everything there is to know, or close it. You should have experienced RO, and now you want to take it to Level 2 and experience RO in a new way.

totally agree, this is the best answer so far. 

[Descent]

Well, we can all agree to disagree on every point in this thread.

Everybody has their own ways of running a server. There's no "right", and there's no "wrong". Opting to play a legit does not make a GM or Admin corrupt, just like dedicating yourself to the server completely and refusing to play is just as fine too.

As far as being successful, again, there's no right or wrong. For example, I would never go to Devilanche's server and say he's a bad Admin because of how he chooses to run his server. Just like he would never(I hope) go to mine and tell me that I'm a bad Admin because I still choose to enjoy the game for what it is.

Both of our servers have an equal chance of success, and the only factor that would kill it would be if one of us went corrupt. Seeing as Devilanche has a good head on his shoulders(as do I), that won't happen to either of us and we all end up winners.

[Devilanche]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

[Loki]

I love GM'ing. On every server I've GM'ed for....I never had a regular account.

you are one of the best GMs out there. 

Why? Because if you want to be a GM, you should be a game MASTER, not a game PLAYER. If you are a GM, you should know everything there is to know, or close it. You should have experienced RO, and now you want to take it to Level 2 and experience RO in a new way.

totally agree, this is the best answer so far. 

Let me correct you if I may. Its game MODERATOR. Master wouldn't be a correct choice of word since it basically means you're the ruler of the game. Moderator, is basically moderating the game for rule-breakers and such.

There are some people who enjoys GM-ing and some who would still want to play. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to have fun. Just because they become a GM, they can't have fun at all in the server they dedicated themselves to?

[laoganma]

Let me correct you if I may. Its game MODERATOR. Master wouldn't be a correct choice of word since it basically means you're the ruler of the game. Moderator, is basically moderating the game for rule-breakers and such.

GM = game MASTER

wether you are an administrator, account manager, in game helper, events organizer, core developer, webmaster, scripting, artwork, general debugging, or a moderator, you are still a GM (game MASTER), there is no such thing as GM (game MODERATOR), at least not for Ragnarok Online.

[Scars]

You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

Likewise.

I even mentioned "that's my opinion"
I am not flaming in anyway, you might not like my opinion but that doesn't mean I flamed you. Now using word like donkey IS flaming.

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

Oh I see.

Cause when I first read the topic it sounded like you intending something like "If you want to have a successful server you have to do this!" If you know what I mean.

Again, that's just me.

[Devilanche]

I love GM'ing. On every server I've GM'ed for....I never had a regular account.

you are one of the best GMs out there. 

Why? Because if you want to be a GM, you should be a game MASTER, not a game PLAYER. If you are a GM, you should know everything there is to know, or close it. You should have experienced RO, and now you want to take it to Level 2 and experience RO in a new way.

totally agree, this is the best answer so far. 

Let me correct you if I may. Its game MODERATOR. Master wouldn't be a correct choice of word since it basically means you're the ruler of the game. Moderator, is basically moderating the game for rule-breakers and such.

There are some people who enjoys GM-ing and some who would still want to play. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to have fun. Just because they become a GM, they can't have fun at all in the server they dedicated themselves to?

Just so you know, it's Game Master, not Game Moderator. Also...No, personally, I believe that if you want to play RO- you should play on a different server. If you want to GM, that GM should be your one and only account.

You may just not like GM'ing as much as playing, or perhaps you've had a bad experience with it and find it to be monotinous work...However, that being said, there are obviously plenty of people- myself included- who want to GM to just GM. And because of this fact, finding a loyal staff isn't that hard.

[Descent]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

So for those of you who think GM'ing is all work and no play, you're just wrong. GM'ing is fun and I- and many like me- enjoy it. If you don't find GM's like that for your server...Your server is doomed.

I think that's where the misunderstanding took place.

[Loki]

I love GM'ing. On every server I've GM'ed for....I never had a regular account.

you are one of the best GMs out there. 

Why? Because if you want to be a GM, you should be a game MASTER, not a game PLAYER. If you are a GM, you should know everything there is to know, or close it. You should have experienced RO, and now you want to take it to Level 2 and experience RO in a new way.

totally agree, this is the best answer so far. 

Let me correct you if I may. Its game MODERATOR. Master wouldn't be a correct choice of word since it basically means you're the ruler of the game. Moderator, is basically moderating the game for rule-breakers and such.

There are some people who enjoys GM-ing and some who would still want to play. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to have fun. Just because they become a GM, they can't have fun at all in the server they dedicated themselves to?

Just so you know, it's Game Master, not Game Moderator. Also...No, personally, I believe that if you want to play RO- you should play on a different server. If you want to GM, that GM should be your one and only account.

You may just not like GM'ing as much as playing, or perhaps you've had a bad experience with it and find it to be monotinous work...However, that being said, there are obviously plenty of people- myself included- who want to GM to just GM. And because of this fact, finding a loyal staff isn't that hard.

As you said yourself, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and although I've never been a GM. I would find it a monotonous work. Well that's just me. Alas, we're discussing on how to successfully running a server but we've astray off-topic.

[Scars]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

So for those of you who think GM'ing is all work and no play, you're just wrong. GM'ing is fun and I- and many like me- enjoy it. If you don't find GM's like that for your server...Your server is doomed.

I think that's where the misunderstanding took place.

Ahahaha

+1 To Descent.

[Loki]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

So for those of you who think GM'ing is all work and no play, you're just wrong. GM'ing is fun and I- and many like me- enjoy it. If you don't find GM's like that for your server...Your server is doomed.

I think that's where the misunderstanding took place.

Ahahaha

+1 To Descent.

How can I missed that?!

+1 to Descent too.

[Devilanche]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

So for those of you who think GM'ing is all work and no play, you're just wrong. GM'ing is fun and I- and many like me- enjoy it. If you don't find GM's like that for your server...Your server is doomed.

I think that's where the misunderstanding took place.

Ahahaha

+1 To Descent.

How can I missed that?!

+1 to Descent too.

Please give me the name of a single, reputable server which has +1000 players online at a time which has GM's who play as characters. I don't think you can.

Loyal and well balanced GM's are the lifeblood of a successful server. Opinions or no opinions, THAT is a fact.

[Descent]

I think you misunderstand me Descent, the point of this thread was not to say ''This is the ONLY way to make a server work, and if you don't, U R TEH FAIL!''. I'm simply saying...It's a good strategy as to how to run a server. Like you said, there are multiple opinions and multiple methods, I'm just offering people one that worked for me.

So for those of you who think GM'ing is all work and no play, you're just wrong. GM'ing is fun and I- and many like me- enjoy it. If you don't find GM's like that for your server...Your server is doomed.

I think that's where the misunderstanding took place.

Ahahaha

+1 To Descent.

How can I missed that?!

+1 to Descent too.

Please give me the name of a single, reputable server which has +1000 players online at a time which has GM's who play as characters. I don't think you can.

Loyal and well balanced GM's are the lifeblood of a successful server. Opinions or no opinions, THAT is a fact.

Facts require proof and not bias, good sir. Please show us.

Either way, out of this topic, as now, it is turning quickly into a pissing contest that I'd rather not be involved with.

Back to FIFA '08 on DS.

[Scars]

Now you claiming you stating a fact when you just said its just your opinion?

Make up your mind please.

Loyal and well balanced GM's are the lifeblood of a successful server. Opinions or no opinions, THAT is a fact.

I think that's very basic, though I surely don't think its the only thing that goes, so I won't call it "lifeblood"  

Let me state few facts too,

Your opinion won't really count unless you have a successful running server yourself and not said by other people, not yourself, and without it you won't be able to back up your statements if your stating a "FACT"
and that would make your so called "FACT" really weak.

Now before you start anything, no I never claimed I have a successful running server. It hasn't been up too long, I dare to say its a start, but I am not claiming anything. Although that shouldn't matter, the main thing is I didn't make a topic sounding like 
"This is what you have to do to have a successful server" "If you don't listen to me your doomed"
That is either directly or indirectly show you're trying to teach everyone. At least to me.



Yes you have the right to post what you want to post, and I have the right to reply what I want to reply. Don't say I am flaming you again, cause I am not and never did.

Cheers.

[Devilanche]

Now you claiming you stating a fact when you just said its just your opinion?

Make up your mind please.

Loyal and well balanced GM's are the lifeblood of a successful server. Opinions or no opinions, THAT is a fact.

I think that's very basic, though I surely don't think its the only thing that goes, so I won't call it "lifeblood"  

Let me state few facts too,

Your opinion won't really count unless you have a successful running server yourself and not said by other people, not yourself, and without it you won't be able to back up your statements if your stating a "FACT"
and that would make your so called "FACT" really weak.

Now before you start anything, no I never claimed I have a successful running server. It hasn't been up too long, I dare to say its a start, but I am not claiming anything. Although that shouldn't matter, the main thing is I didn't make a topic sounding like 
"This is what you have to do to have a successful server" "If you don't listen to me your doomed"
That is either directly or indirectly show you're trying to teach everyone. At least to me.



Yes you have the right to post what you want to post, and I have the right to reply what I want to reply. Don't say I am flaming you again, cause I am not and never did.

Cheers.

So wait, ''Your opinion won't really matter until you have a successful server running''....

But....''No I never claimed I have a successful running server. It hasn't been up too long, I dare say its a start''.


Nice job, so basically, you just said your own opinion doesn't matter. Thanks for that.

See, heres the thing. No- I don't have a server right now....But I had one. One with 300 people online at a time. One with a custom CP, with personally scripted customs, with a custom lag-fix AND botting tool....Everything was created by my staff for my server.

That is what success really is. Having a goal, and completing it, and having it be recognized by others. My goal was to get a few hundred people on my server, to make a bit of money off of it, and to have people recognize that. I did that. So I had a successful server. And you, like you said- do not. So my opinion actually DOES matter.
Anyway, back on topic..

There are certain things you MUST have to have a successful server. Good GM's are one of them.