Project Alfheim is back

Started by bigx, Jun 16, 2023, 12:11 AM

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betwixtbetween

Dead server lmao everyone left

Playtester

315 players online right now which is on par with the other largest low rate servers.

Xellie

pretty sure most of the old population are waiting for the new patch... OGH

I know I am

Blinzer

can we take the time to appreciate that playtester is out here like a firefighter going around putting out the flames of all these arsonists in the world

Lunalepsy

Quote from: betwixtbetween on Jun 22, 2023, 09:52 AMDead server lmao everyone left

Where did they go? I only care about the social component at this point. Sweating on a 20-yr-old game is ridiculous at this point.

betwixtbetween

Quote from: Lunalepsy on Jul 23, 2023, 02:50 PMWhere did they go? I only care about the social component at this point. Sweating on a 20-yr-old game is ridiculous at this point.

Nowhere particular since it's just a typical pre-re server cycle. None of the promised content were ever implemented, server issues still linger, WoE guilds left and it's divided into SE and FE which made it less competitive. So naturally the server population thinned out.

Usagimimi

Quote from: Lunalepsy on Jul 23, 2023, 02:50 PMWhere did they go? I only care about the social component at this point. Sweating on a 20-yr-old game is ridiculous at this point.

Social component is still there. People whine about a so-called "dead server" when P-Alf is hundreds strong at any given time of day and there are always parties recruiting to go to Odin, Niff, Byalan, etc. Episode 13 was implemented last week, too. I would suggest giving it a shot yourself or at least inquiring on the Discord, which is also very active with both players and staff.

Herpderp

Quote from: Playtester on Jun 22, 2023, 03:43 PM315 players online right now which is on par with the other largest low rate servers.
Except one is a multiclient sh!thole while the other forbids it.
Pretty disingenuous to compare the two, my little rat.  /??

Playtester

Quote from: Herpderp on Jul 25, 2023, 05:40 PMExcept one is a multiclient sh!thole while the other forbids it.
Pretty disingenuous to compare the two, my little rat.  /??
I didn't just compare two servers. I don't even know what server you are talking about. Is there a large server right now that forbids multiclienting?

And it's really hard to tell the impact of multiclienting anyway. Just like it's hard to tell if servers that only show one number include vendors or not and how much % are vendors. So it's just rough estimations.

2k2

Quote from: Playtester on Jul 25, 2023, 05:52 PMI didn't just compare two servers. I don't even know what server you are talking about. Is there a large server right now that forbids multiclienting?

And it's really hard to tell the impact of multiclienting anyway. Just like it's hard to tell if servers that only show one number include vendors or not and how much % are vendors. So it's just rough estimations.

It's hard to measure even servers that "forbid" multiclienting as I assume most (if not all) are similar in such rules, where they claim to forbid multiclient but never actually enforce it, so it's basically an environment where people still multiclient nonstop, it's just harder to do it and you have to do extra-steps to be able to, which is a hassle. Played in many, would, on a daily basis, mass report obvious multiclienters to ADMs, GMs, CMs and even bring up names, screenshots and videos on discord yet it would take ages for any of them to get any action, if any, and when it happened it would be just a very small temporary mute.

Never again to trust such servers as it's not fair for me to follow and play by the rules while people are breaking it constantly with no punishment /shrug

Herpderp

Quote from: Playtester on Jul 25, 2023, 05:52 PMAnd it's really hard to tell the impact of multiclienting anyway. Just like it's hard to tell if servers that only show one number include vendors or not and how much % are vendors. So it's just rough estimations.

Really Rattester?   /hmm   You could have just taken the L but you're really gonna overdose on copium like this?
Come on, tell me multiclienting doesn't inflate the playercount massively, that's it's just a dozen people having two clients open at any given time. I wanna see you spell out your disingenuous rat snake cope word-for-word.  /heh

Xellie

reminder that alfheim records unique users online.

There's 24/7 parties there, I dunno how multiclient matters in any scenario.
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betwixtbetween

24/7 parties of the same old content. Might as well call it a regular pre-re since no "custom" content were even implemented for months now.

Xellie

Quote from: betwixtbetween on Jul 26, 2023, 01:44 PM24/7 parties of the same old content. Might as well call it a regular pre-re since no "custom" content were even implemented for months now.

I dunno if it matters if people are having fun. Alfheim has more than enough content to keep people busy for months.

Zulf

At the end of the day, people will just multiclient anyway and unless you ask for a livecam stream, you can't actually say.

Quote from: Herpderp on Jul 26, 2023, 04:48 AMReally Rattester?   /hmm   You could have just taken the L but you're really gonna overdose on copium like this?
Come on, tell me multiclienting doesn't inflate the playercount massively, that's it's just a dozen people having two clients open at any given time. I wanna see you spell out your disingenuous rat snake cope word-for-word.  /heh
Do you play there?

Quote from: Xellie on Jul 26, 2023, 03:45 PMI dunno if it matters if people are having fun. Alfheim has more than enough content to keep people busy for months.
The actual goal is for people to have fun. This is the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Not everyone plays more than 1~2 hours a day. And as much as I hate the meta the server had when I played; there are more places and more builds to test around. Just like people despise Anubis and call it the only endgame while you have a whole game to play, just not as "optimal".

Xellie

Quote from: Zulf on Jul 26, 2023, 04:13 PMAt the end of the day, people will just multiclient anyway and unless you ask for a livecam stream, you can't actually say.
Do you play there?
The actual goal is for people to have fun. This is the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Not everyone plays more than 1~2 hours a day. And as much as I hate the meta the server had when I played; there are more places and more builds to test around. Just like people despise Anubis and call it the only endgame while you have a whole game to play, just not as "optimal".

I don't know if [muilticlienting] matters, [so long as] people are having fun.

Pardon my Engrish.

Zulf

Quote from: Xellie on Jul 26, 2023, 06:38 PMI don't know if [muilticlienting] matters, [so long as] people are having fun.

Pardon my Engrish.
In the end, the real multiclienting was always the friends we made along the way.

Lunalepsy

Quote from: Xellie on Jul 26, 2023, 03:45 PMI dunno if it matters if people are having fun. Alfheim has more than enough content to keep people busy for months.

I'm glad it matters. Why would you want to play a game where no one is having fun? Might as well create your own server and keep yourself busy for months. :)

Felione

I just left this server. It felt extremely dead, and the communication was poor in terms of community involvement. Not only that, they blocked players from communicating until level 50, and thought this was the correct choice to prevent ONE spammer from spamming. It also has some entitled person who thinks what they do is unorthodox and they deserve respect for "helping" the server, yet, they allowed the mute till 50 to go on for months, not realizing how many people left simply because of it. I understand there was some p2w controversy, but there's far more to discuss in regards to the blatant ignorance that this server owner, and his community, is showing. It was the loneliest feeling that I have experienced on any server thus far, and this is coming from a person who runs away from friends online, to be alone.

Playtester

Quote from: Felione on Nov 04, 2023, 02:35 PMNot only that, they blocked players from communicating until level 50
Oh wow, that's sounds indeed pretty bad. Is that just being blocked from using the global channel or can't you chat with others at all?

Felione

Quote from: Playtester on Nov 04, 2023, 03:10 PMOh wow, that's sounds indeed pretty bad. Is that just being blocked from using the global channel or can't you chat with others at all?

Global channel. Regardless, new players were (most likely still are, but they mentioned it was changing apparently) shafted by something a staff member can easily remedy. I left the server twice, because I gave it another chance, but the lack of communication even after reaching level 50 was just too saddening.

amoryblaine

Its a great server for people that aren`t just for the nostalgia trip and will leave in 1 month. There is an insane amount of content, giant new patch just dropped with another on the way. Server is in a the same spot of 200-300 players(+900 mercs) and would be great if it grew again.

I don`t even know what to say if you feel locked from the server because you cant speak on main before 50. Why do you even want to speak on main? And even a new player would reach 50 after a full day of playing... I dont even understand the criticism.

It`s grindy, but there is so much content and with options its not hard for an experienced RO player to buy cheap mid rolled gears and do most of the content with weeks of play.

I guess it does feel dead, specially at some times of the day. But there is always at least 1 pub party recruiting at all times. When you get to know the people that make part of this small comunity you realize it is not so dead after all.

I hope more people give alfheim a chance!

Felione

Quote from: amoryblaine on Nov 23, 2023, 02:21 PMWhy do you even want to speak on main?

To ask questions, to communicate, to laugh, to cry, to complain, to praise, to offer advice, to ask for advice, to bond, to understand the demographic, and most importantly, to feel like I'm not playing alone. If you can't understand this, then why are you even playing an mmo?

Herpderp

Quote from: amoryblaine on Nov 23, 2023, 02:21 PMI hope more people give alfheim a chance!

Clearly they did, the server had like 1000 log-ins (not autotraders) at one point I think?  /heh 
I do wonder what exactly caused the collapse of the server though, considering the amount of content it has to keep people engaged. Every time I ask people who played there it's just something along the lines of "Charlie is a fkn retard, i want to stab him to death (in minecraft)" but no specifics. /hmm

Felione

Quote from: Herpderp on Nov 27, 2023, 05:31 PMClearly they did, the server had like 1000 log-ins (not autotraders) at one point I think?  /heh 
I do wonder what exactly caused the collapse of the server though, considering the amount of content it has to keep people engaged. Every time I ask people who played there it's just something along the lines of "Charlie is a fkn retard, i want to stab him to death (in minecraft)" but no specifics. /hmm

This is probably in regards to spontaneous changes, which probably the vast majority didn't agree with, but as long as the few discord goers agree, everything is fine. I think it was just a lack of communication between the players (the actual players, not your favorite 3) and the staff. There's also really like one place to level efficiently, and you're locked into it until nameless/thor is available to you, but even then, the parties would be mild in those locations and people just leveled in kitty candy land. Unfortunately, that area was customized for geared players to abuse, so new players had no idea how to approach the dungeon, nor could they ask about it on main. (level 50 base to talk on main)

If you just read that, you can already see so many problems, just colliding into each other like bumper cars. It's strangely not a newbie friendly experience, at all. Sure, the game provides you with some gear, but once you're free, you hit a wall, and another one, and another one, until you just go back the way you came. Playing other servers. :D

2k2

Quote from: Herpderp on Nov 27, 2023, 05:31 PM[...] Charlie is a fkn retard [...]
Can't speak for everyone, but that's exactly the case for me and my group. We don't have any servers to play currently ever since Origins closed because we refuse to play on meme servers with shady, greedy or weird admins.

Awhile ago when people were exposing the corruption on TalonRO/Talon Tales, Charlie was one of the big supporters that tried really hard to defend and justify Talon's antics, while bashing the players exposing all the corrupt cases that happened on that server.

That to me/us showed he's not any different from the Seiren/Boreas/Talon and that they don't deserve any love or support from the community.

charlielovesu

Quote from: Playtester on Nov 04, 2023, 03:10 PMOh wow, that's sounds indeed pretty bad. Is that just being blocked from using the global channel or can't you chat with others at all?

just the global channels. and we thought we removed it but it somehow got reverted. we'll be fixing that soon.