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Title: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 19, 2020, 04:04 PM


Greetings, RMS / Ragnarok community.

There are two ultimate questions for a Ragnarok online player: "where is the Ragnarok Online game now?" and "Are there any good servers out there". For a long time, they have been topics of just official and private servers. But in the last three decades, along with the rapid development of advanced graphical games, Private RO owners have already obtained some unethical ideas to these two questions. But, The present analysis has uncovered two strong, unique, and reliable relations between private server owners and the Ragnarok player's community. The degree to which a server much populated is significantly predicted a higher un-ethical process that runs within the sever without the acknowledgment of the effects it can do to the game. Statistically, such an act manifests in two independent effects: the strong negative trust in the server and later the trusting the game itself. Understanding the mechanisms underlying these effects, As entitled in the subject, the downgrade of the game is led by such unethical private server owners.

playdf@org.
https://playdf.org/ (https://playdf.org/)
Chicken,Life,Island,Rage.Land,Tervist 2.0,RagnaChan,Estland Low,Estland Mid,Ragna13th,Tervist,Enyasha,RagnaOk


A wide list of corrupted private servers owned by dfplay.org, An organization that has mainly evolved themself by doing un-ethical subjects within their privately owned Ragnarok Online platforms such as RMT, Rental GM commands, spawning MVPs for a specific guild inside the guild house area, @item command on players with the high priced vendable drops; Rental commands such as #hide for hidden MVP kills. If I could name it, Hidden Donation System similar to Linux's Tor page "HiddenWiki". In this scenario, a player's belief does not directly affect the proclivity to engage such behavior. The direct causal explanation is most closely in line with the experimental findings is that it could well be that both the provider and the influenced user intentions are at the same level. staff team themselves approach in-game players offering such hidden donation aspects of the game. failing to or intentionally not understanding the value of true gamers and the authenticity of the game itself. I would advise the Ragnarok Community not to be entertained by such corrupted servers which will also help the game to sustain its name in the MMORPG list. Because if such infected roots are injected into the community, the game will be soon dead in upcoming years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ed13d1SPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ed13d1SPQ)


Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 19, 2020, 06:42 PM
Hello, Community!
I'm playdf.org owner and I would like to clarify some things

This person was with us on ChickenRO in the Helper GM role under the name "Rev".
He asked to be a GM, wanted to help us for free, we gave him some basic access to Support GM (Access to support tickets, Role in Discord), Event GMs (Only with Main Staff cooperation), Basic GM commands - mute, hide, kick, warp, follow, jump, etc + BG helper (see screenshots in spoiler).
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(https://i.imgur.com/aJG8Cuj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CHcE2dv.jpg)
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After a few weeks, he asked for more access, said he wanted to be a Game Master with reason "Players don't trust me, they want speak with GM, not a Support", but we didn't give him that.
After a while, he stopped doing anything useful in our staff. I asked him to respond to tickets, stop speak in private messages, and he say "sorry". but again was constantly speak with players in DM (Private Messages in Discord), constantly investigating something, he was bad at it, so in his testimony there are a lot of inconsistencies about the names of guilds, commands, and so on.

So I warned him several times that he should do what we want and not do something incomprehensible. But he was still doing something wrong.

The person from the private messages who uploaded the videos was also blocked . Reason: RMT. For any reason Rev asked us to give him an reward to this player for this video.
He even solved some problem in personal messages, and this player wrote that Rev promised that we would give a reward, but I didn't even know what for.

We said goodbye to him and he started sending messages and videos along with that player to ruin our reputation.
So most of the information that it provides has nothing to do with what is happening in reality.

We do not sell any access to commands or any items/auras/etc in the game.
All that is available are donation packages available on the website. We get quite a lot from donations, and there is no point in losing our reputation and creating such problems.
Yes, some players can RMT on the black market, but agree, this exists on all big servers and in all games. We prohibit doing this in the rules, and we constantly block sellers and buyers, but they can do it outside of the game, so it's quite difficult to track.

I do not deny that we periodically run servers with different names (sometimes with different people in staff), but we don't hide from community, I always have the same nickname and can confirm info about our previous servers, this information is also available on our website playdf.org for all players, and it is the player's choice whether to join us or not.

Regards,
df
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Ariasqt on Apr 19, 2020, 08:43 PM
I played on EstlandRO, Tervist and TervistRO2.

These servers all had the same Staff and pulled the same s***:

- Selling items to longterm players/friends from their previous servers through WesternUnion
- GMs buying gold coins (cash shop currency over there, at least back then) from player shops so the market inflates on those and it eventually becomes impossible to get cash shop gears (which are very strong in these servers) without buying them yourself with $, as there are literally none on the market.
- as soon as a server had a decreasing population they instantly abandoned the ship, opening a new server under a new name instantly; and as thus sometimes having more than one server active (the old dying one and a new one for the cash grab)

Since then I dropped finding reliable pre-renewal servers and have found my home in a renewal one, so I'm definitely not here just to trash talk/rant to a random server. But these owners are actually the peak of scummy cash grab servers, don't waste your time over there.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 19, 2020, 09:08 PM
Quote from: Ariasqt on Apr 19, 2020, 08:43 PM
I played on EstlandRO, Tervist and TervistRO2.
These servers all had the same Staff and pulled the same s***:
>> Not true, we opened them in different staff.

- Selling items to longterm players/friends from their previous servers through WesternUnion
>> Not true. I dont like WU and dont have friends outside Russia. I even refused most donations through Western Union when we accepted them for large amounts, or even did not receive them, since it is difficult receive it in Russia (Bureaucracy, you need to be in a queue for 1-2 hours to get money). And now we do not accept WU for the same reason, Russian banks refuse to give real money.

- GMs buying gold coins (cash shop currency over there, at least back then) from player shops so the market inflates on those and it eventually becomes impossible to get cash shop gears (which are very strong in these servers) without buying them yourself with $, as there are literally none on the market.
>> Not true, certain players had a high demand for these coins, so they sold out quickly.

- as soon as a server had a decreasing population they instantly abandoned the ship, opening a new server under a new name instantly; and as thus sometimes having more than one server active (the old dying one and a new one for the cash grab)
>> EstlandRO and some other servers are still alive, it's been 5 years! What are you talking about?
We are working until the last players will play here. This is already an established classic, when all players switch from server to server in 2-6 months (usually), Estland worked for more than a year with a good online.


Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Ariasqt on Apr 19, 2020, 09:23 PM
Not all players use @at All the time and the buyout messages showed that a GM (dont remember the name) had bought those GCs but it doesnt matter anyway it's been years and those proofs have been buried.

Just gotta look at the estlandro "Promotion" gallery to see what kind of servers this group hosts.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 19, 2020, 09:33 PM
Quote from: Ariasqt on Apr 19, 2020, 09:23 PM
Not all players use @at All the time and the buyout messages showed that a GM (dont remember the name) had bought those GCs but it doesnt matter anyway it's been years and those proofs have been buried.

Just gotta look at the estlandro "Promotion" gallery to see what kind of servers this group hosts.

Cheers.

Again no proofs. It even sounds silly and funny to buy coins directly using a GM character :)

If you talk about 18+ promo, it was done exclusively for the 2ch board website - this is a Russian analogue of 4chan
but we decided to leave it and upload to the gallery
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 20, 2020, 02:35 AM

Be Smart: Be Careful.

To justify how crucial the security and privacy concerns of this upcoming gaming servers of playdf.org are, I will provide some concrete research in terms of demonstrating how owners like dfplay.org can initiate practical attacks using existing Ragnarok installation setup on OS based systems. gaming devices as a potential attack vector to infer secret and private information about their users and their potential intention is to stock this information before these devices gain widespread adoption by other attackers.

In Linux, There is a term called. Maintaining Access It's one of the phase used after gaining control over the system to accumulate information; maintaining access is done by setting a rootkit into the user's OS for future assessment and to attack any random server by the process of DDoS ( Distributed Denial of Service ), During "distributed service" it might be one of your system used for attacks and the system owner won't even recognize the change during the period due to the rootkit set into your system. the main purpose of such rootkits is to avoid showing any unusual process running behind on to your system task manager. I will stop briefing the entire scenarios but If you're planning to run an game.exe given by such corrupted owners, always consider yourself as a victim to the above mentioned activities because the installation process itself is activated by the user. I would advise to run a system check and be safe. dfplay.org gets paid pen-testers to execute DDoS  attacks on currently up-running servers and to justify it, he also crashes his own server and tag it under similar process.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: qwerty3025 on Apr 20, 2020, 03:01 AM
@CrashNBurN use this video with GM confession and some stuff.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1uBzH-fOWc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1uBzH-fOWc) ,, that server is all about money.. too greedy ,, only one guild name DAMAGE win always on MVP like WSM vs 3-4 guild.. They are only 3-4 people and win 100%. They keep the Diablous equips to raise the price and selll overprice,they do RMT too (carlos god,a god,Zaphyra and never got banned.

@Everyone if you own a server and someone ask you to be a helper/gm and you agree.. would you give him a command like hide,item? LOL..

@eesti someone asked why the server is not listed on RMS. and Rev,DF, or R4 said that on RMS is too much drama and fake people. so why are you here and defending your sh** server? any players that played on your previous server on  EstlandRO, Tervist and TervistRO2 all had the same Staff and pulled the same s***:
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 20, 2020, 03:44 AM


https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/rootkit/1508/ (https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/rootkit/1508/)

They execute their malicious behavior by hijacking application processes running on the machine or by overwriting the memory that an application uses.
The above statement explains the 60% of the Chicken Ragnarok population experiencing freeze issues including random frame lags for more then 20 to 40 seconds straight during gaming and then goes back to normal.even on some cases the client exe itself occupies highest % of the system memory for short duration.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: GM Fury on Apr 20, 2020, 04:25 AM
Quote from: qwerty3025 on Apr 20, 2020, 03:01 AM
@Everyone if you own a server and someone ask you to be a helper/gm and you agree.. would you give him a command like hide,item? LOL..

That's one thing you should never do. Only the admin should have @item and if they have an Event GM then just give that Event GM the rewards manually. Never ever give @item.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Nithraniel on Apr 20, 2020, 05:38 AM
I do remember on TervistRO2 playing with my WoE guild, and everytime we were about to breach the russian guild in WoE, we'd suddenly get a gravity/gepard error and all get disconnected. Couldn't be that the GMs were helping the russian guild riiiiiiiiiiight ?  /no1
The server died soon after of course because nobody wanted to play anymore with insider cheats involved.

Surprisingly the GMs never showed their face most of the time I was here. What's the point of running so many servers if the staff is not there on some of the servers ? Could it be..... KA-CHINGGGGG!! milk cow servers with the typical donation npc that included gears unavailable otherwise ? What a great time to be alive.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 20, 2020, 06:50 AM
Quote from: CrashNBurN on Apr 20, 2020, 02:35 AM

Be Smart: Be Careful.

To justify how crucial the security and privacy concerns of this upcoming gaming servers of playdf.org are, I will provide some concrete research in terms of demonstrating how owners like dfplay.org can initiate practical attacks using existing Ragnarok installation setup on OS based systems. gaming devices as a potential attack vector to infer secret and private information about their users and their potential intention is to stock this information before these devices gain widespread adoption by other attackers.

In Linux, There is a term called. Maintaining Access It's one of the phase used after gaining control over the system to accumulate information; maintaining access is done by setting a rootkit into the user's OS for future assessment and to attack any random server by the process of DDoS ( Distributed Denial of Service ), During "distributed service" it might be one of your system used for attacks and the system owner won't even recognize the change during the period due to the rootkit set into your system. the main purpose of such rootkits is to avoid showing any unusual process running behind on to your system task manager. I will stop briefing the entire scenarios but If you're planning to run an game.exe given by such corrupted owners, always consider yourself as a victim to the above mentioned activities because the installation process itself is activated by the user. I would advise to run a system check and be safe. dfplay.org gets paid pen-testers to execute DDoS  attacks on currently up-running servers and to justify it, he also crashes his own server and tag it under similar process.


Do you yourself think what nonsense do you write? Every time more and more new stories.
What the hell DDoS attacks? What rootkits? Our files use only Gepard Shield and Thor Patcher, they are sometimes recognized by anti-viruses as viruses, since they are packed through UPX but this is a false positive.

There were only very weak (<5 Gbps) DDoS attacks on our last server, I already wrote about this.
For example we received much stronger attacks (>100 Gbps) in 2016 from our competitors.

Botnets are used for DDoS attacks, so it makes no sense to start the server for this.

You can even calculate what capacities are needed for this, and understand that the number of players / machines will be clearly not enough to carry out an attack, moreover, it will be very noticeable on the player's computer.


Quote from: qwerty3025 on Apr 20, 2020, 03:01 AM
@eesti someone asked why the server is not listed on RMS. and Rev,DF, or R4 said that on RMS is too much drama and fake people. so why are you here and defending your sh** server? any players that played on your previous server on  EstlandRO, Tervist and TervistRO2 all had the same Staff and pulled the same s***:

This person is offended and allows himself to spread fake rumors and spam my players in Discord private messages with a link to RMS in this topic.
Players want us to write an answer. I am writing an official answer here. What else is needed?


Quote from: CrashNBurN on Apr 20, 2020, 03:44 AM


https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/rootkit/1508/ (https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/rootkit/1508/)

They execute their malicious behavior by hijacking application processes running on the machine or by overwriting the memory that an application uses.
The above statement explains the 60% of the Chicken Ragnarok population experiencing freeze issues including random frame lags for more then 20 to 40 seconds straight during gaming and then goes back to normal.even on some cases the client exe itself occupies highest % of the system memory for short duration.

FPS decreases due to the Gepard Shield, and not because of this. We also do not like it, but now there is no better protection/anti-cheat on the market.


Quote from: qwerty3025 on Apr 20, 2020, 03:01 AM
@Everyone if you own a server and someone ask you to be a helper/gm and you agree.. would you give him a command like hide,item? LOL..
Where do you see the item command?
All the rest of my member staff are people whom I have known for more than 5 years and trust them completely. We had no one more alienated except Rev, so it was controlled by all GM and the developers from our staff, including the logs of the entered commands, message logs, etc. Logs was viewed every day.

Quote from: GM Fury on Apr 20, 2020, 04:25 AM
That's one thing you should never do. Only the admin should have @item and if they have an Event GM then just give that Event GM the rewards manually. Never ever give @item.
The reward for the event is too small and another way of giving it is used, there is no way and sense to abuse it
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: GM Fury on Apr 20, 2020, 09:06 AM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 20, 2020, 06:50 AM
The reward for the event is too small and another way of giving it is used, there is no way and sense to abuse it

That's right! There shouldn't be anyway to abuse it with-out @items being given.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Wolfie on Apr 20, 2020, 11:33 AM
I remember playing EstlandRO. It was always so empty for a server that supposedly had 1500 players online.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 20, 2020, 11:50 AM
Quote from: Wolfie on Apr 20, 2020, 11:33 AM
I remember playing EstlandRO. It was always so empty for a server that supposedly had 1500 players online.
It's online included all: Merchants + Autotraders + Players on Guild Locations + Multi-Windows
you may have joined when most players had guild locations and active people rarely appeared in towns

on the current server, I write information about online on request, if I am asked about it by our players.
on ~1800 players online we have about ~700 unique players, ~900 merchants and the rest are multi-windows

this is the peak online on sunday and it's easy to check, 70vs70 bg everyday here + queue and lots of players in the woe castle
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Kolby on Apr 21, 2020, 03:26 AM
why does it say staff rmt lol.

stay away from these servers. definition of cashgrab and dead server economics. make new server>move population from old to new>rinse and repeat.

ex-estland player from February-Jun(2016) . Enjoyed the guild houses tho ^_^

in fact all mid-rate servers these days are bad and not long lasting. Stay away from midrate servers in general lol.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Chmiel on Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 AM
This post made me to do account on this forum. I played like 3 servers from DF squad. Every server was the same s***, Damage/F1 guild kill every high end MVP ( why no Nidhoggr's Shadow Quest? Cuz Damage/F1 find Nid on dungeon instant when Nid spawn and kill him with 2 asuras ) in 2 sec ( satan 3 asuras without lex ), but ChickenRo is terrible. On the other servers they do not overprice end games items so hard and selling CP for real money and still not banned. I play on this server with my friends and always someone is online and we didn't notice drop cards like Lady Tanee, Gloom or Vesper but Damage/F1 guild have this cards.  /no1
All i recomended for players from server df group is play only bg content if u have fun with it or play with 10 friends and farm ET becouse you cant fight for mvp in dung/fields with GM(Damage/F1) guild.  /ok

Quote from: eesti on Apr 19, 2020, 09:08 PM
>> Not true. I dont like WU and dont have friends outside Russia. I even refused most donations through Western Union when we accepted them for large amounts, or even did not receive them, since it is difficult receive it in Russia (Bureaucracy, you need to be in a queue for 1-2 hours to get money). And now we do not accept WU for the same reason, Russian banks refuse to give real money.
Maybe you dont like, but other gms like Spain a lot.  /ok
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 21, 2020, 11:22 AM
Quote from: Chmiel on Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 AM
Maybe you dont like, but other gms like Spain a lot.  /ok
Besides me, no one accepts donations manually, and we who have access to send donation packages (me and my devs) are all from Russia and Estonia.
so stop writing this nonsense
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 21, 2020, 11:26 AM
Quote from: Kolby on Apr 21, 2020, 03:26 AM
in fact all mid-rate servers these days are bad and not long lasting. Stay away from midrate servers in general lol.
for mid-rates pre-re:
the fact is that the players are not constant. they move from server to server every 2-6 months, so most mid-rate servers die.
the first reason is the players, not the servers.

new low rates servers (pre-re) are not interesting to players, as they are not time-tested, players are afraid that they will be closed as quickly as mid-rates, so only those servers that were launched a long time ago live
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Chmiel on Apr 21, 2020, 11:27 AM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 21, 2020, 11:22 AM
so stop writing this nonsense

"XDDD" Thats all i can said. Your bois from Damage/F1 never do something like that on other server, only on yours. Have Fun, cya. :)
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 21, 2020, 06:34 PM
Greetings, RMS | Ragnarok Community.
I hope everyone is safe!

We are living through an unprecedented worldwide game renaissance due the COVID19 Pandemic effect and such an opportunity is laced with peril. management like dfplay.org are throwing their excess capacity around with their wild beliefs. Despite the lack of proper and dedicated management, they are finding corrupt ways to make fast money, but for every success they think they have achieved, it just turns out to be a massive failure and such failed servers are pulled from shelves mere months after being launched.
High-profile servers lauded on social websites like Facebook, Instagram and RMS were later forgotten a few months later due to copied content that wind up being used by nobody. What makes these failures particularly painful is not just the time damage done to individual players but also a colossal waste of our community's most precious resources such as the passion, money and game play of dedicated players.
Exclusive guilds with WOE hacks, mvp hacks, insane amount of bots all over in-game maps, staff with unresponsive attitude towards suggestions, unresponsive attitude towards complaints regarding hacks, even acting as ghost GM after doing unexpected or without warning rollbacks just to fix a bug which was being abused for a prolong. favoritism, unfairness.  Well, I must say that I am proud to see that the RMS community is dedicated in preventing such fake owners from corrupting the Ragnarok online game.
Vision and concept, content development, marketing; the four major steps for modeling a successful private server. And for dfplay.org management, they don't even know what vision stands for and talk about concepts and content, they just replicate their previously hosted server and give it a new name and often something that nobody even wants. my advise, it doesn't matter much if you do it on perfect timing or on minimalist budget. The goal of a fresh server is to figure out the right thing to build—the thing players want to play for and will donate for.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Kolby on Apr 21, 2020, 11:39 PM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 21, 2020, 11:26 AM
for mid-rates pre-re:
the fact is that the players are not constant. they move from server to server every 2-6 months, so most mid-rate servers die.
the first reason is the players, not the servers.

new low rates servers (pre-re) are not interesting to players, as they are not time-tested, players are afraid that they will be closed as quickly as mid-rates, so only those servers that were launched a long time ago live
lool why are you blaming players for this? IF you cannot maintain a server and give focus to it then why disperse that workload into several other servers?  Obviously it loses it's value. Yes mid-rate players like to jump servers for the next hype server, but that's just because you kept your old servers with no updates, no new events and just basically a dead fanbase with no effort to attract newer players. You guys are just like Yrvine servers but much more subtle about it.

Also wtf would you make it harder to farm money by killing off good loots and reduce their prices to 5k like witherless rose or any other items needed for farming? TO push player to buy those stupid coins??

I learnt that mid-rate server owners don't care about their fanbase, again I like to reiterate that mid-rate servers are a waste of time in this modern era. The last good one was also plague with problems such as MVP card selling xaxaxaxaxaxa. So the guy above me is right to question why certain guilds on your servers have MVP cards.

Also there is also a reason why YC doesn't approve any of your server into their listing, or if it does get approved it gets removed later on all the time looool
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Chmiel on Apr 22, 2020, 05:16 AM
When truth hurt you so much, so you block people when your arguments is invalid. Nice GM behaviour. Nice communication with players.  /heh
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 22, 2020, 11:15 AM
Quote from: Kolby on Apr 21, 2020, 11:39 PM
lool why are you blaming players for this? IF you cannot maintain a server and give focus to it then why disperse that workload into several other servers?  Obviously it loses it's value. Yes mid-rate players like to jump servers for the next hype server, but that's just because you kept your old servers with no updates, no new events and just basically a dead fanbase with no effort to attract newer players. You guys are just like Yrvine servers but much more subtle about it.

Also wtf would you make it harder to farm money by killing off good loots and reduce their prices to 5k like witherless rose or any other items needed for farming? TO push player to buy those stupid coins??

I learnt that mid-rate server owners don't care about their fanbase, again I like to reiterate that mid-rate servers are a waste of time in this modern era. The last good one was also plague with problems such as MVP card selling xaxaxaxaxaxa. So the guy above me is right to question why certain guilds on your servers have MVP cards.

Also there is also a reason why YC doesn't approve any of your server into their listing, or if it does get approved it gets removed later on all the time looool

Name at least 1 mid-high rate server that has been living for more than a year with high online in current realities. I am sure that you will not find this, as players move between servers. Even if the server is completely good.

We didn't even try to do a listing here, yC does not prohibit us from doing this, another advertisement is enough

Quote from: Chmiel on Apr 22, 2020, 05:16 AM
When truth hurt you so much, so you block people when your arguments is invalid. Nice GM behaviour. Nice communication with players.  /heh
Since when is the screenshot in Discord a proof? We will remove all links to this topic, as this is a lie.
I can take at least 1000 such screenshots with any text and names. We checked all in the game logs and did not find anything.

Thus, we will be different from other servers where GM banned this guild due to rumors and fake screenshots, and not due to facts.
As for the damage guild - we blocked the only one person who RMT, and it was not carlos
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: qwertyzeny on Apr 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 22, 2020, 11:15 AM
Name at least 1 mid-high rate server that has been living for more than a year with high online in current realities. I am sure that you will not find this, as players move between servers. Even if the server is completely good.

We didn't even try to do a listing here, yC does not prohibit us from doing this, another advertisement is enough
Since when is the screenshot in Discord a proof? We will remove all links to this topic, as this is a lie.
I can take at least 1000 such screenshots with any text and names. We checked all in the game logs and did not find anything.

Thus, we will be different from other servers where GM banned this guild due to rumors and fake screenshots, and not due to facts.
As for the damage guild - we blocked the only one person who RMT, and it was not carlos


Yes you're different from other server., too much biased and have favoritism.. due of rumors and fake screenshots? that's what you believe? you will never banned damage guild even a lot people saw/complaining about what your favorite guild doing, deleting chat messages on your discord group when you don't like what your players reporting about them.. someone send this screenshot about carlos morente doing RMT.. don't tell me this is fake too? LOL

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Quote from: qwertyzeny on Apr 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
Yes you're different from other server., too much biased and have favoritism.. due of rumors and fake screenshots? that's what you believe? you will never banned damage guild even a lot people saw/complaining about what your favorite guild doing, deleting chat messages on your discord group when you don't like what your players reporting about them.. someone send this screenshot about carlos morente doing RMT.. don't tell me this is fake too? LOL
How do I know what kind of carlos is in this screenshot and why did you send him money?
we check game logs (deals, chats), not discord and someone else's paypal
I do not have access to this paypal account and I have no relation to these transactions and this PP account.

I repeat, I can also send $50 to anyone or edit paypal page code, but that doesn't mean that I buy anything from him.

I do not want to protect the Damage guild and specifically Carlos, we treat all players the same way, but if there are no normal proofs, there is no ban. I will not ban this player for screenshot in Discord or PayPal.
But I will ban if I see a discussion of the transaction/deal in the game chats, even if the transaction has not been completed. Amount, payment system or contacts in the discussion of the transaction/deal will be enough to ban.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Ara on Apr 22, 2020, 02:38 PM
i just want to know why OP is writing his posts That Way.

it feels like im reading some kind of press statement or something
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Homi Hesumaki on Apr 23, 2020, 01:21 PM
100% damage guild and carlos do RMT trades.

How many screenshots do you need, what kind of RMT trades would happen in game where you have the log, why don't they just openly said as long as you trade in discord, everything is all good!

We have shown discord chats, we have shown actual transactions, nothing has been done. So many people bought things from them. The staff is not willing to ban them, this staff has shown OVER and over again that they are not willing to harm that guild at all.

It is not just for the obvious RMT that they are pretending the proof isn't enough to take any actions against their friends in the damage guild. The case about the #hide where someone in the damage guild abused it, yet the staff has the audacity to come out and said, yes he abused it, but we are going to protect him anyways, then call out everyone that continued on the conversation "attention seeking" and even banned a few from discord for pushing on about why they refuse to take action against the abuser, it wasn't until later on that we realized the reason is because he was ALSO in the damage guild. Great job guys, i mean you should've just came out straight and said yea we favor the damage guild instead of pushing the obvious lies.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 23, 2020, 01:34 PM
1. Reversal (that guy with hide from video) not from damage guild
2. Its just mistake

Why Rev wrote that he is from damage I do not know
he should not have been Hide, and his Hide would have disappeared at relogin
we didn't notice it right away, temporarily banned Reversal to understand what happened
after which they rolled back all items (account wipe) that he received during this hide
I think this problem is completely resolved. let it be my mistake

everything else that Rev writes, I consider complete nonsense
this is not true at all, and is his imagination or person that made the video,
by the way he was also banned for RMT

About damage guild:
I honestly don't see the point in discussion at the level of "It should be banned, but I will not give a single proof"
your words and screenshots outside the game are not a proof for ban. even if they sell something in the game for money, then we don't get anything from their transactions, and the number of items does not increase, it remains the same
and only 1 player from the damage guild was banned by us for trying RMT ( deal is not successful )


Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: qwerty3025 on Apr 23, 2020, 05:18 PM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 23, 2020, 01:34 PM
1. Reversal (that guy with hide from video) not from damage guild
2. Its just mistake

Why Rev wrote that he is from damage I do not know
he should not have been Hide, and his Hide would have disappeared at relogin
we didn't notice it right away, temporarily banned Reversal to understand what happened
after which they rolled back all items (account wipe) that he received during this hide
I think this problem is completely resolved. let it be my mistake

everything else that Rev writes, I consider complete nonsense
this is not true at all, and is his imagination or person that made the video,
by the way he was also banned for RMT

About damage guild:
I honestly don't see the point in discussion at the level of "It should be banned, but I will not give a single proof"
your words and screenshots outside the game are not a proof for ban. even if they sell something in the game for money, then we don't get anything from their transactions, and the number of items does not increase, it remains the same
and only 1 player from the damage guild was banned by us for trying RMT ( deal is not successful )

This conversation tell us that you have a favoritism and you are a damage guild's dog.. :) only you/yourself don't believe even there are a lot of proofs.. everybody knows what's happening and you still defending that person or guild.. thanks to the person who did the video and caught what you/your staff doing on you s*** server.. and not only about the video.. there are a lot of players that played on your previous server know that you/your staff did those and you're still doing it.. so that's why your server is not listed here on RMS.. because they know what you doing.. xD.. you can't even ask to list your server here not because you don't want but because you can't.. yeah truth hurts..
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 24, 2020, 06:08 PM


You should at least be true to yourself.
I believe that such a characterless individual like you with the ability to convince others even though not even one comment in this thread supports your replies. The episode of negative comments towards such a corrupt owner is the prime example of how a person with no dignity can scam several players with different hosted servers. It's not about any guild exclusively but the entire stage where the events of such selfish acts take place. As I mentioned in my previous reply, the worst development team ever to unite. A server will massive bugs, un-test before launch. If dfplay.org launches a server, the first important step that players take is to find hidden bugs within the game and they are pretty sure of its availability. later abused, crashed economy on the 3rd of the server. but wait, read this out,
if a player with proper gameplay time gains rare items by constant hunting or gets lucky at equipment upgrade scenario. | The sudden server disconnection without notice, the player logs back in and finds out that the acquired items have vanished. tries to communicate with the staff team for the reason, no response. Items from the vends also with a similar scenario, Not in the cart, Not in the storage, Not in the inventory; Vanished.
MVP NPC bug, talk to an NPC to spawn an MVP, cooldown time 7 hours? I think it's 7, not sure of it but yes. so, just before clicking the last NPC message prompt, log in your 20 other alt accounts and do the same. "Stop at the last message prompt of the NPC" 
It's a magic time, press "Enter" all the 20 logged in Alts one after one. 20 MVPs at the same time.
Daily reward bug with an infinite amount of BB to an account with the above-mentioned mechanism.
Every week there will be one rollback for sure but if the players are lucky sometimes two. Reason? They get noticed about a few unknown bugs which are already abused in a massive quantity. Cash Shop bug etc. 
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: qwerty3025 on Apr 26, 2020, 07:14 AM
Quote from: CrashNBurN on Apr 24, 2020, 06:08 PM


You should at least be true to yourself.
I believe that such a characterless individual like you with the ability to convince others even though not even one comment in this thread supports your replies. The episode of negative comments towards such a corrupt owner is the prime example of how a person with no dignity can scam several players with different hosted servers. It's not about any guild exclusively but the entire stage where the events of such selfish acts take place. As I mentioned in my previous reply, the worst development team ever to unite. A server will massive bugs, un-test before launch. If dfplay.org launches a server, the first important step that players take is to find hidden bugs within the game and they are pretty sure of its availability. later abused, crashed economy on the 3rd of the server. but wait, read this out,
if a player with proper gameplay time gains rare items by constant hunting or gets lucky at equipment upgrade scenario. | The sudden server disconnection without notice, the player logs back in and finds out that the acquired items have vanished. tries to communicate with the staff team for the reason, no response. Items from the vends also with a similar scenario, Not in the cart, Not in the storage, Not in the inventory; Vanished.
MVP NPC bug, talk to an NPC to spawn an MVP, cooldown time 7 hours? I think it's 7, not sure of it but yes. so, just before clicking the last NPC message prompt, log in your 20 other alt accounts and do the same. "Stop at the last message prompt of the NPC" 
It's a magic time, press "Enter" all the 20 logged in Alts one after one. 20 MVPs at the same time.
Daily reward bug with an infinite amount of BB to an account with the above-mentioned mechanism.
Every week there will be one rollback for sure but if the players are lucky sometimes two. Reason? They get noticed about a few unknown bugs which are already abused in a massive quantity. Cash Shop bug etc. 


that's a lot of bugs, and malpractice on server.. now he can't even defend himself.. haha..
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on Apr 30, 2020, 03:11 AM
They should be added to the Hall of Shame,It will be a warning to many players. 
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on Apr 30, 2020, 07:40 PM
Ban better this inadequate here and on your servers.
Every day he comes up with new things and blames everyone.
His multiple personalities come up with more and more problems, and this needs to be treated, not splashed out here on the forum.
Today he is accusing several people, and the next one may be you.
Such people should not be allowed to join any community, since they belong in a psychiatric hospital.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on May 01, 2020, 06:30 PM
Quote from: eesti on Apr 30, 2020, 07:40 PM
Ban better this inadequate here and on your servers.
Every day he comes up with new things and blames everyone.
His multiple personalities come up with more and more problems, and this needs to be treated, not splashed out here on the forum.
Today he is accusing several people, and the next one may be you.
Such people should not be allowed to join any community, since they belong in a psychiatric hospital.

Funny scammer.  /heh
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Tsura on May 01, 2020, 10:38 PM
I am an old player of Ro. I have been playing Ro since 2003 on and off. I have been through many servers.

Since the Chinese Wuhan Covid-19, my old friends asked me to come back to play RO with them on ChickenRo. First couple days, i was impressed by the 70vs70 BG, and then decided to stay and enjoy the game of my life is RO. After about 1 week, we got a Guild House, and level it up to level 3. This Guild House remind me a about another server that i had played in the past, IslandRO.

IslandRo: This server has the same exact Guild House, where u can get all buffs from NPC, Endow...etc. U can warp to any maps in game. U have a Mvp room where u can abra - summon Mvp from Npc with out anyone outside knowing what are u doing. Totally a private place. I joined this sever because of the number of ppl online that show up on webside 500-600ppl. BUT, when i was in server, did not see many ppl in main town. i asked on #main channel, and only 2-3 ppl reply. Later on, i found out that those 500-600 ppl were just Vendors. The real number of players was like 25. On the weekend, we got bg 10vs10 for about 2 hours, week days was like 5vs5. After couple time server restarted, we hope that Gm will log off those vendors, so the market will adjust itself price, but that never happened. Until about 3 weeks later, they close server to open another one.

ChickenRo: With the same format of Island RO, Guilld House, Cash Point...etc . I think this is the same identical server with IslandRO. GM team just close one to reopen another one. My friends and I played about a week and we got our Guild House, we decided to go Mvp. We check all over the maps, there were no MVP left to kill. All mvp were camped except Beelz, Thanatos (WHY?). We started checking bio3, and saw a Sniper Mvp, A MOVING CK. We gather a bio3 team with hw-lure-bragi-hp and started cleaning the ledge. Took us about 5 mins to clean and get all chars in spot. It was time to lure Sniper up, BUT....the sniper was GONE, could not see it anywhere in map. We were the ONLY party in bio3 at that time. We got back town and did not understand what did just happen... Our Stalker  told us that he saw a champ, tele to MVP spot, and did 2 asura back to back and killed it. Can you believe it??? Teleport to mvp TWICE and landed 2 Asura to kill a SNiper Mvp x2hp about 2.5mils. My whole life play Ro, i live in bio3, and that was the first time i heard about that. I did not believe that until this happened. We found Wounded Morroc, our guy was luring to keep control of coordination. At town we set up buffs, songs, tanker....took about 5 mins. The lurer got back to DG22 and WSM was GONE. There was no party, no other lure to compete. WSM has 16mils HP, and dead after 5 mins without any party in map..HOW CAN U DO THAT?? YES THERE IS/ARE CHEATERS IN SERVER. Beelz is the only lucky Mvp that alive because they can not asura it.

Guild House, and server does not have FORUM: The  Guild House is the perfect tool for GM to split players, players can not go from town to town and discuss what do they see, what do they think. Players just stay inside their Guild House with their friend. This Guild House will kill the Community, and separates the connection between players with is the most beauty of RO. This Guild House will help those CHEATERS  can do anything inside without anyone knowing. Why a server does not have a forum? Because a forum will expose all the dirty work from GM team and his subordinates.   

The report about corruption on this ChickenRO is Correct under my perspective.
We should boycott those servers like this to protect our loved Game.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on May 04, 2020, 04:11 AM
Quote from: Tsura on May 01, 2020, 10:38 PM
I am an old player of Ro. I have been playing Ro since 2003 on and off. I have been through many servers.

Since the Chinese Wuhan Covid-19, my old friends asked me to come back to play RO with them on ChickenRo. First couple days, i was impressed by the 70vs70 BG, and then decided to stay and enjoy the game of my life is RO. After about 1 week, we got a Guild House, and level it up to level 3. This Guild House remind me a about another server that i had played in the past, IslandRO.

IslandRo: This server has the same exact Guild House, where u can get all buffs from NPC, Endow...etc. U can warp to any maps in game. U have a Mvp room where u can abra - summon Mvp from Npc with out anyone outside knowing what are u doing. Totally a private place. I joined this sever because of the number of ppl online that show up on webside 500-600ppl. BUT, when i was in server, did not see many ppl in main town. i asked on #main channel, and only 2-3 ppl reply. Later on, i found out that those 500-600 ppl were just Vendors. The real number of players was like 25. On the weekend, we got bg 10vs10 for about 2 hours, week days was like 5vs5. After couple time server restarted, we hope that Gm will log off those vendors, so the market will adjust itself price, but that never happened. Until about 3 weeks later, they close server to open another one.

ChickenRo: With the same format of Island RO, Guilld House, Cash Point...etc . I think this is the same identical server with IslandRO. GM team just close one to reopen another one. My friends and I played about a week and we got our Guild House, we decided to go Mvp. We check all over the maps, there were no MVP left to kill. All mvp were camped except Beelz, Thanatos (WHY?). We started checking bio3, and saw a Sniper Mvp, A MOVING CK. We gather a bio3 team with hw-lure-bragi-hp and started cleaning the ledge. Took us about 5 mins to clean and get all chars in spot. It was time to lure Sniper up, BUT....the sniper was GONE, could not see it anywhere in map. We were the ONLY party in bio3 at that time. We got back town and did not understand what did just happen... Our Stalker  told us that he saw a champ, tele to MVP spot, and did 2 asura back to back and killed it. Can you believe it??? Teleport to mvp TWICE and landed 2 Asura to kill a SNiper Mvp x2hp about 2.5mils. My whole life play Ro, i live in bio3, and that was the first time i heard about that. I did not believe that until this happened. We found Wounded Morroc, our guy was luring to keep control of coordination. At town we set up buffs, songs, tanker....took about 5 mins. The lurer got back to DG22 and WSM was GONE. There was no party, no other lure to compete. WSM has 16mils HP, and dead after 5 mins without any party in map..HOW CAN U DO THAT?? YES THERE IS/ARE CHEATERS IN SERVER. Beelz is the only lucky Mvp that alive because they can not asura it.

Guild House, and server does not have FORUM: The  Guild House is the perfect tool for GM to split players, players can not go from town to town and discuss what do they see, what do they think. Players just stay inside their Guild House with their friend. This Guild House will kill the Community, and separates the connection between players with is the most beauty of RO. This Guild House will help those CHEATERS  can do anything inside without anyone knowing. Why a server does not have a forum? Because a forum will expose all the dirty work from GM team and his subordinates.   

The report about corruption on this ChickenRO is Correct under my perspective.
We should boycott those servers like this to protect our loved Game.

They shamelessly still renting out GM commands I guess, such a waste!
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Neffletics on May 04, 2020, 05:12 AM
A very common scenario in SEA-made servers, haha.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: eesti on May 04, 2020, 02:53 PM
it's funny to read you guys.
play 10+ years and write such nonsense.
your accusations against us are simply not justified, no proofs

you are just losers who can only write nonsense on the forum, instead of showing normal gameplay
if you could not achieve anything on the server, then study the game, emulators, game mechanics, and not all of this

learn the basics of economics and mathematics, and maybe marketing.... think with your own head

what is the sale of cards, commands, etc.?
the revenue from the donation package per day will still be several times more than the cost of a single card. there's no point in risking it.
and this is even if you open the server not for the sake of money, but for the sake of your interests
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Chmiel on May 05, 2020, 04:39 AM
Normal gameplay vs your damage guild :D

Add to your next server full view for every gm account you created at website and we can talk about nonsense. :)
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Sinistrum on May 05, 2020, 05:10 PM
@eesti

Honestly, you should probably stop replying.
I know you want to defend yourself, but this lad is just out for Vendetta.
No reason to even smacktalk with him, its just stress you can avoid.

His post here wont influence the Playerbase you have and the future of your server

Good luck and stay healthy.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Chmiel on May 06, 2020, 04:09 PM
How he can defend yourself when i play on this server and can see what they are doing?
Good luck and stay healthy lul.

BTW ( edit ). My bad, im not playing. Already quited like 30min ago. Over 1600 MVP on 3 guild champs with Bubble Gum without card. Killing ppl on WoE FE with pressure Paladins give our guild a lot of fun, but after we saw damage done satan with 3 asuras without lex we are done, half of us quit, half of us learn a lot of u guys from Damage. I don't know and now dont care Damage bois are GM's or GM's friends or like "df" said they are "cheaters". But Damage bois give us a lot of ideas how to use programs for RO now. After a spend a lot of time at RagLife and now on ChickenRo ( top1 zeny on these servers ) im done with what Damage bois done on these servers and me and my guild never back to your servers. Tottaly no offence now. You (GMs) are trolling ppl really hard as a Damage bois, but i wish you good luck and a lot of money. Thats my last post, but ill save tons of screens for nice memories. Bye.  /no1
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: Sinistrum on May 06, 2020, 09:11 PM
It's actually Hilarious, most posts here are just Random and s***.

Its not like we live in the 21st Century and your PCs allow you to Record "Videos", i´d Imagine if i was that butthurt, i would try to record Fishy behavior as proof. You know, since you say you saw people doing Morroc with obsurd damage.
Most Modern Ragnarok Clients even allow recording.
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: CrashNBurN on May 12, 2020, 03:24 AM
Quote from: Sinistrum on May 06, 2020, 09:11 PM
It's actually Hilarious, most posts here are just Random and s***.

Its not like we live in the 21st Century and your PCs allow you to Record "Videos", i´d Imagine if i was that butthurt, i would try to record Fishy behavior as proof. You know, since you say you saw people doing Morroc with obsurd damage.
Most Modern Ragnarok Clients even allow recording.
Just my 2 cents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ed13d1SPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ed13d1SPQ)
Title: Re: Playdf.org | Staff RMT
Post by: TooOldToBother on May 19, 2020, 07:41 PM
That exposure is real. Goddamn. df got his moneyback on that topic xDD  /swt
Well it's no surprises that guy was doing pay2win servers only to feed himself up north Siberia.
Nigga be spending all our real life working jobs money while trying to make a new plagia event on his server & calling himself an admin :o
I've been a fool on his previous servers but with that new ChickenDinnerRO client & the exposure you guys showed, it's just a matter of time to make a player, a believer.  /heh /wah
Paying 50eu donation thinking you gonna play a real dope donkey client with large amount of players is just a mirage.
80% of that ChickenRO players are trash, 30% of that 80% just afk, the total is just freshmeat for the real players.
I really had a blast playing this server man !! no joke ... /?? /??
Call us anytime now df, if you make another EstlandRO server with the same old features, only now we know we gonna get scammed away.  /omg /ok /omg