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Offline Shuchou

Play 2 earn RO server
« on: Jan 13, 2022, 03:27 pm »
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This is not a real RO server but a phishing gimmick to get people to download games and make ingame purchases.
« Last Edit: Jan 14, 2022, 01:44 am by yC »

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Offline yC

Re: Play 2 earn
« Reply #1 on: Jan 14, 2022, 01:44 am »
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. 

I am not comfortable with seeing server promoting "pay to earn" when their so called "crypto currency" has next to no value and often running on a 1x server that make it difficult to farm the currency.  I could see they are trying to sell the crypto currency in the process to make extra income, which could be done the same way with a donation shop / donation point stored in game.

The crypto world is not that simple, I am removing any servers that are promoting this "play 2 earn" style with crypto to be on the safe side.

Let me know if you find other RMS listed servers pulling the same thing.

I will move this topic to the Server Discussion section, maybe player who have experience on these servers can share more details.





Offline yC

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #3 on: Jan 14, 2022, 03:24 am »
Well if that is the case, here are two more

https://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=21826&itv=6&url_sname=Binance%20Ragnarok%20Online

https://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=21822&itv=6&url_sname=Ro%20Zero%20NFT

Done and done.  Wow what have you kids turned RO into? NFT and crypto in RO ... seriously.

Well, I know this is done out there in other originally created games with a lot of players.  But for private RO server, this move can be dangerous due to the lack of transparency and liquidity to the coin.  The value of the NFT or coin convert to real money (or anything exchangeable) can be rather easily manipulated.
 


Offline arcadaplay2earn

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #4 on: Jan 14, 2022, 07:19 am »
Hello

I'm the admin of the play to earn server, I'm here to answer all your questions. I'm willing to send to admins all my private information, documents, addresses, contact phone numbers and VAT id's to put our server back!

First, the fact others are scammers won't make our team automatically scammer. There wasn't one single case where somebody had their information theft or used outside the terms of service and policy, all data is regarding only two things; players be able to login in the game and second if they wish, redeem their rewards in form of crypto tokens traded in Cardano or Harmony network, both are reputable and large market cap cryptocurrencies with large communities you can check them out. /? /?

Second, we aren't here interested in short term gains, we love Ragnarok and at same time we wanted to provide more value to the players. We have sponsorship guaranteed by a Cardano Staking pool operator that runs since February with good amount of followers now, they are providing the liquidity necessary for the trading. /no1
THird, there are no passwords involved in the transaction, no player will pay anything in order to have advantage on the game not even to receive their rewards. If its a scam so tell me, how are we scamming our players?  /omg

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"I am not comfortable with seeing server promoting "pay to earn" when their so called "crypto currency" has next to no value and often running on a 1x server that make it difficult to farm the currency.  I could see they are trying to sell the crypto currency in the process to make extra income, which could be done the same way with a donation shop / donation point stored in game."
The game must be kind of hard unless the currency won't value anything right? A high rate server wont fit the purpose but our GM team is attempt to make it fair, you can drop your first tokens in the first hours of playing since very beginner stages we have tokens dropping. Why is that a problem for you?


Prejudice and hate wont make us better. Thank you very much.  /hmm /hmm
« Last Edit: Jan 14, 2022, 07:28 am by arcadaplay2earn »

Offline yC

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #5 on: Jan 14, 2022, 07:39 pm »
We are not saying your server is a scam.  We are trying to protect users from getting into something that is more than just RO.

By introducing a crypto currency to RO server, you are potentially exposing inexperienced trader to buy / sell / trade crypto.

Say for example, when you open an investment account or buy any investment product in the legit way.  The seller (usually the bank) is regulated and must ask you about your experience with various investment strategy and your risk tolerance etc.   

Now for players that joined a RO+crypto server, they can earn this crypto coin as suggested but they are also open to buy, sell or trade them in the same platform. 
As big as Bit-coin with a $600~800 billion market cap can go up or down 15% in matter of hours, nobody can say these RO server farmed coins are safe to store value at any given point in time.  Some servers I saw created their own coin which is even more dangerous.  One day it might worth $100 a coin, next day it could be $0.0001.  So like any newbie trader not knowing the risk and never heard of "rug pull", who can guarantee they won't get greedy / put their life savings into the coin / use the coin as a gamble?  This is like opening the door to the casino and RMS is responsible for that.

Let's just say I prefer not to deal with the consequence so it is better for RO stay as RO only.  Not to mention crytpo currencies are banned and/or illegal in some countries.


Offline Kris

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #6 on: Jan 15, 2022, 12:22 pm »
This "Play 2 Earn" model is probably the most Yrvine thing I've heard since 2k16
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Offline arcadaplay2earn

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #7 on: Jan 18, 2022, 07:16 am »
We are not saying your server is a scam.  We are trying to protect users from getting into something that is more than just RO.

By introducing a crypto currency to RO server, you are potentially exposing inexperienced trader to buy / sell / trade crypto.

Say for example, when you open an investment account or buy any investment product in the legit way.  The seller (usually the bank) is regulated and must ask you about your experience with various investment strategy and your risk tolerance etc.   

Now for players that joined a RO+crypto server, they can earn this crypto coin as suggested but they are also open to buy, sell or trade them in the same platform. 
As big as Bit-coin with a $600~800 billion market cap can go up or down 15% in matter of hours, nobody can say these RO server farmed coins are safe to store value at any given point in time.  Some servers I saw created their own coin which is even more dangerous.  One day it might worth $100 a coin, next day it could be $0.0001.  So like any newbie trader not knowing the risk and never heard of "rug pull", who can guarantee they won't get greedy / put their life savings into the coin / use the coin as a gamble?  This is like opening the door to the casino and RMS is responsible for that.

Let's just say I prefer not to deal with the consequence so it is better for RO stay as RO only.  Not to mention crytpo currencies are banned and/or illegal in some countries.

Hello
I appreciate your answer, I will try to explain the most detailed as possible and in case you have doubts do not hesitate in contact me by email at [email protected] or discord channel link in our website!

The general idea to merge a private server model with token distribution is nothing new, we are just trying to do it properly and having support by a real staking pool operator willing to increase his following base.

You can all the details in the proposal at the white paper page: https://arcada.games/white-paper.php
If you still insist not listing our server we just can feel sad and remove the links to write a review in rate my server as we have today. The website is yours and you can decide what's acceptable or not but before submit our server, I read the rules and couldn't find anything that can forbid us to be here and be known by the community of RO private servers. /no1

There's no other way to see if the model will work or not but trying and having support of community is something important. We are in open beta now and the response from community even slower its being constant. We are livestreaming everyday at Reddit and you can check how its going.

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Say for example, when you open an investment account or buy any investment product in the legit way.  The seller (usually the bank) is regulated and must ask you about your experience with various investment strategy and your risk tolerance etc.   
Let me clarify this point, you are judging us based on what you know about cryptocurrencies but this is not related at all our project.
  • Nobody is selling any crypto, players can buy at their will outside the game.
  • The tokens are drop inside the game, players decide if they want them or to leave, these will be burned every 5 days if not redeemed
  • If the crypto is banned in some country this is not our problem, we trust our players to do what they think its better to them
  • The tokens aren't sold again, they are distributed as they play execute actions inside the game



THank you anyway, your website is a valuable tool for all Ragnarok players. /kis /kis
« Last Edit: Jan 18, 2022, 07:25 am by arcadaplay2earn »

Offline Oathkeeper

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #8 on: Jan 18, 2022, 08:59 am »
The RO community has been historically plagued with scams, pop-up servers used as a cash grabs, and other unfortunate things. Even if you have good intentions, I fear that monetizing the game further only brings more distrust and potential harm to the community. At the end of the day, no one really has the right to monetize the game except the copyright holders. Everyone who owns a private server knows that in the back of their minds. But the problem is, we don't have to facilitate server models that lend themselves to scamming our community. Again, I'm speaking more broadly as crypto and NFTs, while interesting from a financial technology perspective, are riddled with bad actors.

I hope yC continues to take a general stance against this kind of emerging server model.

Offline yC

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #9 on: Jan 20, 2022, 08:52 pm »
Sorry, the decision remains the same.

It opens the door for players to dip into the crypto world, for reasons that I stated above.  I am not saying you are taking advantage of anything, yet there are many opportunities for other servers to do so if this is allowed.  So we have to put a clear line here.

I appreciate your understanding in this matter.

Offline PokemonAscension

Re: Play 2 earn RO server
« Reply #10 on: Jan 21, 2022, 11:38 pm »
Hello

I'm the admin of the play to earn server, I'm here to answer all your questions. I'm willing to send to admins all my private information, documents, addresses, contact phone numbers and VAT id's to put our server back!

First, the fact others are scammers won't make our team automatically scammer. There wasn't one single case where somebody had their information theft or used outside the terms of service and policy, all data is regarding only two things; players be able to login in the game and second if they wish, redeem their rewards in form of crypto tokens traded in Cardano or Harmony network, both are reputable and large market cap cryptocurrencies with large communities you can check them out. /? /?

Second, we aren't here interested in short term gains, we love Ragnarok and at same time we wanted to provide more value to the players. We have sponsorship guaranteed by a Cardano Staking pool operator that runs since February with good amount of followers now, they are providing the liquidity necessary for the trading. /no1
THird, there are no passwords involved in the transaction, no player will pay anything in order to have advantage on the game not even to receive their rewards. If its a scam so tell me, how are we scamming our players?  /omg
The game must be kind of hard unless the currency won't value anything right? A high rate server wont fit the purpose but our GM team is attempt to make it fair, you can drop your first tokens in the first hours of playing since very beginner stages we have tokens dropping. Why is that a problem for you?


Prejudice and hate wont make us better. Thank you very much.  /hmm /hmm


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