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Title: HI I'M NEW
Post by: grubbykitty on Nov 28, 2007, 08:56 AM
HI YA'LL
I JUST REG'D FOR THE FORUMS...........................
UMMM I WANNA ASK SMTHING,
1ST I WANNA PLAY RO AGAIN, BUT WICH SERVER IS NICE? I WANT A HIGHRATE SERVER & ZENRO LOOKS NICE. IS IT NICE TO PLAY ON? ALSO I DONT WANT A PK SERVER SO CN YOU PPL SUGGEST A GOOD NONM PK HI RATE SERV!
2ND WHAT IS IRC?
3RD I KNO WHAT HI RATES ARE, THEY MULTIPLY XP BUT WHAT IS THE 3RD RATING ABOUT LIKE 10K/10K/10K
LASTTLY WHER CN I FIND WALKTHROUGHS FOR LEVELING? IN THIS FORUM? PLZ GIMME A LINK
HOPIN TO GET ANSWERS SOON
THX
MEOW
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Skotlex on Nov 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
Uh... OMG.

Suggestions~

1. Stop typing in all caps, it makes you look immature.
2. Care a bit more about your spelling and grammar. Typing like a kid ... uhm, makes you look immature.
3. You should try reading around a bit before going and posting your intro post in whatever forum you found first :V

Now, to your questions...
1. Go the server listing, read the server reviews, make an initial decision from that.
2. Some people will tell you to use Google when you don't know what something is. IRC is a way of chatting, like RO, minus the battle and sprites.
3. Third is drop rate modifier.
4. This depends on the server you play at, you will do better to ask/read around the server's website once you have decided where to play.
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: grubbykitty on Nov 28, 2007, 11:28 AM
SWEET !
THX I MEAN TOTALLYHELPED
AND DU-H I KNO THAT THINGBOUT CAPS& THER'S AREASON THAT I'MTYPING LYKTHIS.
THIS DAMN KEYBORAD IS BROKEN, THE CAPS N SPACEKEY SMTIMES SPACESDOSENT WORKANDCAPSIS NOT WORKING ATALL
BTW I FOUND 1 SRVR I LYK'D
NAMELESSRO
ITS 3K/3K/10K SO EVERYTINGWILL DROP AT 10THOUSAND TIMES MORE EH? AND 300TIMES MORE XP?
AND MAX LEVEL IS 255BASE N 255JOB AND MAX STAT IS 300 AND ALLNPCS TOO
I READ AROUND THIS SITE N MOST PPL DISCUSS 99ERS ONLY.
DINT FIND 1 TRHEADOF 250SMTHING LEVEL SERVERS? WONDER WHAY?
OH AND IAM QUITE IMMATURE SOTHATS WHAY ITS OUNDS LYK THAT HYA HYA!
THX
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: dook on Nov 28, 2007, 12:47 PM
lol time to invest in a new keyboard i think :P
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: mikka on Nov 28, 2007, 01:48 PM
AmethystRO , 5/4/3 rate - its preety nice for newbies and hardcore gamers, the server recentyl opened, www.anime2.net - hope you join . ^^
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Skotlex on Nov 28, 2007, 03:15 PM
Reading that makes me go OMG. And yeah, you should get a new keyboard to fix that caps mania.. otherwise any responsible GM will think you are trying to be annoying :V (and many people will not take it kindly either... so you would be getting yourself in a lot of trouble over that).

Eh, and if you play very high rates, you will get to level 99 and beyond very easily no matter where you level, I think.. as long as you don't stick to culvert. High level grinding tactics will depend on the server anyway.. so you will not really find info on that around generic sites.
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: mikka on Nov 28, 2007, 11:48 PM
/swt - didnt read his high rate thing -_-...
*looks red* - high rate sucks, dont ever play thats all Im saying, you don't see high rates living as long as euphRO or anima.

-Mikka
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Skotlex on Nov 29, 2007, 03:54 AM
High rate is kinda like playing RO as an arcade game.. you hop in, play, and get done in a single run :V Longevity does not matter in such games. Maybe, at most, only the community and friends you make; but it is a little hard to make friends when everyone is just fine leveling on their own or trying to wipe each other out in pvp.
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Nov 29, 2007, 01:57 PM
Answer to the caps key, hold down shift... I also don't think the spelling is entirely to blame on the keyboard. I highly recommend getting a new one before playing on ANY server. That's both my proffessional, AND non-proffessional opinion.
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: grubbykitty on Nov 30, 2007, 08:49 AM
HEEEEEEEEEEE--------------------HAW
That was just for the heck of it!
Well actually I'm in an internet cafe, so I just switched no a diff. machine.
And complaind to the admin.
I already stared dwnloading a 3k/3k/10k server by the name of NamelessRO
&
Skotlex[hope got that rite]
yer desc of hi-rate ro was just damn brilliant. And thats exactly what I'm lookin for.
Mikka, I was on anima, its slow pace bored me. I'd hav mite aswell went to a 1/1/1.
And I pawned payon dungen at base 10 with reds, hell never even bother to enter culverts, so that will never be a problem. What I wanted to kno was ------------------
well I used to play official server, and when I quit, they were jus staring to advertise the coming of trans classes. And a lot musta chenged by then, so I was wondering if sm new n00b map was up since I'd be startin from scratch. Ahh well payon dungen it is.............
Am done 80% dwnloading, so a couple more days i guess.
BTW I cn still post here rite?
Even if i dont play a RMS test server ?????????????????
And I dont really plan on longetivity jus mindless slaughter.
:o
meow
meow
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Nov 30, 2007, 10:56 PM
DEFINETLY better. If you want soem recommendations, bubblegum ro, and scythe ro are some of the better ones I've played. I've heard a lot of bad stuff about nameless ro, but not everything you hear is true. I personally never played it. Good luck, PM me if you need help!
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: grubbykitty on Dec 02, 2007, 06:52 AM
yEH!
thx for the help.
btw i finished downloading nameless's clint and had an unpacking error.

Now exactly a nice immpresion.
Altho the ppl on their forums help, all they could do was temme to download again, so I mite as well try some other server. And I figured as i'm gonna try that why not go to a SuperHi rate?
Any reccom a SuperHi rate server. I don really wanna lvl up jus wanna leave corpses in my wake.
And umm So I have to download a 1.2GB RO client and anothr 1.??GB Sakray client? and the patcher?
If yes I need to knpo a reliable server as i cant keep downloading them again n again n again nagin n againn again.
Plz help n thx fer earlier adv.
meow
+_+[Starry eyed]
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: ShinigamiFF on Dec 02, 2007, 08:57 AM
DOwnload one of those 1.2GB RO Files and save it. dont redownload it. and there should be like a small patcher file and Private Server GRF and just install it into the 1.***GB RO Folder.

In-steps:
-Get clean kRO and Sakray.
-Download private server patcher/grf files.
-install into the kRO/Sakray Folder.
-Have fun
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Dec 02, 2007, 09:47 AM
There was a translation kit as well, but the site is down, poor mrmagoo D: ... well... I'd offer to post it on my PHP site and so forth, but the thing is, I haven't even made the site yet!! XD It's also 1.300kb about, and the server limit is 300KB.. I guess try to liv ewith all of it in Korean??
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Chao775 on Dec 05, 2007, 04:36 PM
Quote from: mikka on Nov 28, 2007, 11:48 PM
/swt - didnt read his high rate thing -_-...
*looks red* - high rate sucks, dont ever play thats all Im saying, you don't see high rates living as long as euphRO or anima.

-Mikka
hmmm. Alot Of Highrates Do Suck And Don't Last Long. The Fun Of RO Is Supposed To Be Adventuring And Working For Your Levels. High Rates And Super High Rates Take The Fun Out Of That. (Super High Rate Server: Kill Poring At Level 1... YAY IM LVL 60 SOMETHING)
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Dec 07, 2007, 02:27 PM
hai... Most suck, becuase most administrators are childish, foolish, and incosiderate of what a consequence really is. It's true even Zairik's server seems to go to fast, but in the end, it's all a matter of taste. To make the perfect highrate, someone would need to mathematically calculate so many things, redo a majority of monsters, and consider the inevitable difficulties. The beta time for this is extensive, of course. I could do it... BUT COME ON PEOPLE!! I have a life to live!! I quit Ro last week! XD; I'm only sticking around here barely to help around with newbies. Mostly, the issue with highrates, is they don't try and figure out what are the uptimes, and downtimes during leveling and therefore do not create any new monsters to compensate for the change in experience. Those that do, simply jack up the rates beyond belief which cancels out the point of having a high level. In addition there is more to change than the traditional texts, as I found out, such as skill strengths, mosnter strengths, and numerous limits that innitially make 125 the max server level. Ragnarok is starting to seem easy to me in the areas I've worked, only problem is the sheer time it takes to create such a thing.... To do it myself under the circumstances.... I'd say 2 years due to constant updates, and the fact I only have so much time to work with each day, plus I'd wind up having to remake numerous lengthy database scripts to corrispond with the premade calculations... Eh... /swt ... I probably lost you... Didn't I... Ehhh... Basically, most don't make it right, becuase they're too immature yet, and are too lazy, or new. I've found about 1 out of 10 server hosters are actually adults. Most are little kids with there tiny little servers trying to be "gods" becuase they're tired of working hard on other servers and through their overwhelming state of energy, but lack of understanding, believe they can make a better server thinking it's something super simple, when it's not. It IS scripting, and there are literally dozens of rather long scripts. Assuming I had free time all day, and no stress... I could make a new item DB 100% correct with about 2.5 more items... in abotu 2 to 3 weeks by myself. That includes fixing typos. The IDB I figure overall makes up roughly about 1/3 of the server size. So clearly it takes mutliple people, or a lot of time to make a really good server... So the additional point basically is... Most people take about 1 week to set up a server once they get the info and mainly only steal premade info from other servers, and places like RMS, or eAthena. So highrates aren't bad like everyone says they are... It's just that most administrators are not fully capable of making one.

As a wise man once said, "ah~ the ignorance of youth..."
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Skotlex on Dec 07, 2007, 05:31 PM
And yet, the concept of paragraphs still eludes you!

High-rates are somewhat pointless because they do not scale up things appropriately. The basic premise is simple... you do not want to spend a lifetime grinding to get anywhere. However, because you set the rates too high, it becomes way too easy to reach the last level. So a whole deal of the gaming experience is gone right there. So then you raise max levels so it becomes harder to reach all that. But then you become very strong with so many stats to max and the game becomes too easy. then you start buffing mobs so they are not all jokes.  And so on and so forth.. and basicly, if you want a balanced high-rate server, you end up with the original gameplay, but all numbers increased in factors of 10!

A good high-rate server is a low-rate server :B Really, anything higher than that just breaks too many of the finer balance points about a sense of "progress" in your gameplay experience (what becomes the point of 98% of the monsters if you can just fly past their level in 50 minutes?).
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Dec 07, 2007, 07:18 PM
the concept of paragraphs does not elude me, but apparently the concept of being nice eludes you.  That was uncalled for, and in a matter of speaking you didn't negate anything I said. If anything you expanded on it. I'm not impressed Skotlex.
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Skotlex on Dec 08, 2007, 08:39 PM
It was my poor attempt at a joke. Seriously, I do not know if it is just me that has a hard time focusing when attempting to read a single paragraph that is over 20 lines long.

And I am not sure if we have the same point of view or not... if your statement is that making a high-rate server is possible, but you just have to make a lot of changes to keep things in check and balance, my statement is that so much effort is kinda fruitless because in the end you go back to how a lower-rate was supposed to be, then what was the whole effort for?
Title: Re: HI I'M NEW
Post by: Ambrose Merle on Dec 08, 2007, 10:29 PM
the whole amount of work is basically to fix the gaps. If you don't make more monsters, then you'll wind up spending years in ANY dungeon trying to get to level 999 or anything similar. In addition, the stats/skills need to be balanced, otherwise you'll wind up getting to level 999 with either an invincible character, or a character with really lousy stats considering all of the hard work. Most places don't do the math and figure out what a good median and everyhting is. I made a highrate like that, but was hacked. EVERYONE loved it, and the only real request was that I get more players since at taht point in time only 7 people had gotten on it. Fact of the matter is, had I not been hacked, it was fully possible my server could have been highly adored and well run. Then again, I tend to make a lot of enemies so... <insert random profanity here> ... Ah well, I'm bored with RO anywho!

About the paragraphs, sorry, I due tend to ramble a lot and only change paragraphs when I feel it is necessary. My view is that it's possible, but most don't take the time to do it right, and most honestly don't really know how. Any kind of ro server can basically be made to work, assuming it's done right and you target the right kind of players who would like it.

Alright, that's all I've got to say today. Sorry for mispercieving that as an insult over a joke~!