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Title: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Rudolph Zyaber on Jun 20, 2008, 03:46 pm
Essence Ro has currently been taken down due to an exploit made public recently to the general population.

http://essencero.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9366

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As many of you may have noticed, the server has temporarily been taken down. This is due to the latest outbreak in duped 100 mil zeny notes and MVP cards that were given out pretty much everywhere as of late.

Players for awhile now have found an exploit based around the Mailbox system that allows for duplication of stackable items.  Essence has a unique banking system that allows players to turn their zeny into different bank notes, at values such as 1, 10 , 50 and 100 million zeny.   

This is the current number of 100 million zeny notes on Essence.

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100 Million zeny notes [142563
from the same thread as above.

It also contains a list of the number of MVP cards on the server currently. there are over 20 Arch Bishop Hibrahms =/



Anyway, I wanted to bring this to the attention of RMS, as currently the GM's are looking for a Non-wipe solution and it's under great discussion by all the players.  Some are thinking rollback and removal of said items, as well as banning the players, while others want a full server wipe. 

The Economy thread in the general Ro Discussion of RMS boards is also about Essence, started by a player from the Essence forums, and so at least now we can see where that problem came from, heh.

Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Scars on Jun 20, 2008, 04:01 pm
NO!!! Does this mean a delay to my website progress I've ordered from Tira?  :'(

lol Jks.

I suggest roll back if that is possible, most fair solution. If not your'e in for a rough ride =S
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Rehael on Jun 20, 2008, 05:26 pm
NO!!! Does this mean a delay to my website progress I've ordered from Tira?  :'(

lol Jks.

I suggest roll back if that is possible, most fair solution. If not your'e in for a rough ride =S

Oh,my. Roll back is the only solution, as their try at getting the corrupt items & zeny out could lead to some data base deficiencies.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Jun 20, 2008, 06:12 pm
I'm pretty sure Tira was effective enough to have back ups for this kind of thing, so, if need be, it shouldn't have to go too far back. Then again, these issues might go back as far as month, so it might prove to be problematic for some people. =\

From the sounds of it, they mention that it's unlikely they'll have a full wipe. They might have an item wipe and zeny wipe. While that's pretty rough too, I actually think something like that would do the server some good. All the donators who could prove that they had had donation items prior to the item wipe would re-obtain their items to keep from too many complaints, but, other than that, all the zeny and items would be removed. The economy might really benefit from the action. Considering how large this server is, I have a feeling that they'll bounce back from it, and it'd do plenty of good.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Jun 20, 2008, 06:53 pm
They might have an item wipe and zeny wipe.

I dunno maybe this is the best way  ??? but then if you roll back your going to roll it back when the first duping occurred a month maybe

Never thought that Helrouis was right... even the biggest servers are vulnerable too duping
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Scars on Jun 21, 2008, 03:04 am
2nd option would be manually looking at SQL/zeny ranking, people items, checking, list the suspects, and check one by one, make own judgement. Tough work of course, but if the roll back is one month back that's just too long back, however still better then a wipe.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Jakketh on Jun 21, 2008, 04:57 am
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: mark_sanbeda on Jun 21, 2008, 06:44 am
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.

well its better than a wipe at to some extent...
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Jason on Jun 21, 2008, 07:01 am
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.

well its better than a wipe at to some extent...

Whether it's wipe or rollback, they must setup an event right after the day, for about 1 week. I think it would somehow compensate.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Jun 21, 2008, 10:46 am
How would that help? o_O; I've actually always hated those start-up events servers have, or "compensation" events. Things do happen, and flooding the event with massive EXP boosts and high item drops destroys the few good effects of the server wipes/half-wipes, such as a better chance for newer players to catch up, and more economy balancing. Not everyone likes it, but look at places like DeliveranceRO. They had a giant incident where they had to remove every drop of zeny and item obtained - essentially, it was a three month role back for items and zeny. There were no item or zeny compensation. People kept playing, however, as people still had items from playing from way back before those few months, so there was enough to keep an economy going.

Considering the server size, and it's popularity, it wouldn't suffer if it just did it and apologized. xD Maybe compensate by working on a major quest system, or a new dungeon, but a compensation events aren't really that great of an idea. At least, they aren't from my point of view.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: RMSPMS on Jun 22, 2008, 04:36 pm
 

The Economy thread in the general Ro Discussion of RMS boards is also about Essence, started by a player from the Essence forums, and so at least now we can see where that problem came from, heh.



Not sure exactly what you mean by where the problem came from I was not the one who caused it but actually was trying to find a way to save the economy without a huge amount of problems for the server itself.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Jun 22, 2008, 06:05 pm
He's saying we now know that the reason everything was getting outrageously expensive was also partially due to the dupers controlling the economy. n_n; He wasn't blaming you.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 22, 2008, 07:39 pm
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.

well its better than a wipe at to some extent...

Whether it's wipe or rollback, they must setup an event right after the day, for about 1 week. I think it would somehow compensate.
Your the one who created this problem.... say sorry to everyone... (>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: superja on Jun 22, 2008, 11:56 pm
It's a 75x server. I don't think a full wipe is much more of a difference than just doing an item wipe.

I don't think many legit players will actually leave over this, but I assume dupers, who won't work for items, will obviously take off once they have to re-hunt/dupe/scam their gear back.

But seriously a wipe on mid-rates isn't that bad at all. Everything would be cleaned up and it only takes a few days to get a 99/70 trans char on those rates anyways. It's not like you've put years of leveling into a character.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 23, 2008, 04:27 am
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.

well its better than a wipe at to some extent...

Whether it's wipe or rollback, they must setup an event right after the day, for about 1 week. I think it would somehow compensate.
Your the one who created this problem.... say sorry to everyone... (>.>)

Haha. Lol. Was this post referred to Helrouis's thread on duping?
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 23, 2008, 05:06 am
If I would be new to server and they would rollback 1 month, I would personally quit playing there. It's gonna be hard decision for game masters. No matter what they decide its gonna hurt community.

Cleaning all duped items/zeny, without rollback, and banning involved account would be the best, but might be impossible.

well its better than a wipe at to some extent...

Whether it's wipe or rollback, they must setup an event right after the day, for about 1 week. I think it would somehow compensate.
Your the one who created this problem.... say sorry to everyone... (>.>)

Haha. Lol. Was this post referred to Helrouis's thread on duping?

DUH! (>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 23, 2008, 07:05 am
DUH! (>.>)

Wow, what an intelligent answer. BTW, that dupe wasn't even close to being the source of all these. Only out-dated and unprofessional server owners will allow dual-clienting with the same account.

@Topic

Possibly a roll or wipe item and zeny? But if most of the community agreed on a full wipe, IMO it is wise to do a full wipe. You'll still have players if they agreed on it.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 23, 2008, 07:22 am
DUH! (>.>)

Wow, what an intelligent answer.
Thank You... (>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Pandora on Jun 23, 2008, 08:43 am
Well "Duh" isn't exactly an intelligible answer and you use it far too often which makes you look prepubescent.

And it's especially ironic in this particular situation that you would scold Helrouis on his dupe sharing considering you begged the guy to explain to you how to do it yourself.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 23, 2008, 09:30 am
Well "Duh" isn't exactly an intelligible answer and you use it far too often which makes you look prepubescent.

And it's especially ironic in this particular situation that you would scold Helrouis on his dupe sharing considering you begged the guy to explain to you how to do it yourself.

Couldn't have said it any better. And I wonder if he/she is a girl. *looks carefully at forum profile*

WIPE!
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Rudolph Zyaber on Jun 23, 2008, 12:34 pm
Well just to update everyone on this.

Essence has decided to do a Full Item and Zeny wipe, but leave all the characters as they are.

During the wipe, they will also be updating the SVN and will be making some changes to ensure that some of the server problems (yes, sadly, even the best Mid rate server out there has some problems) will not happen again. 

The only thing is, we are losing some players over this because the administration has decided to increase instant cast dexterity requirement and lower Maximum Aspd from 195 to 193.   Some players don't like the sudden change in gameplay and thus are leaving the server.

I can only hope that Essence bounces back from this and doesn't lose out.  I know several servers that have hit the usual "Year Bump" and die out after a year of being up, but if they can go on past that, they usually get better.

anyway, thank you all for your comments on the situation.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 23, 2008, 12:53 pm
Makes me wonder if Gravity ever wiped anything before.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: ~~T~~ on Jun 23, 2008, 12:57 pm
Makes me wonder if Gravity ever wiped anything before.
There was one problem that a hacker/GM went into the server data and duplicated a high ammount of MvP's card/items, so gravity needed to delete 80% of the MvPs items that we're acquired on that day, because of 28 Baphomet cards, the server went to 320 or something like that. If I recall, it was on iRO.

Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Guest on Jun 23, 2008, 01:03 pm
well i hope they can manage to stop these problems of theres >.<

but i guess from the look of their forums this won't do TOO much harm to them... but then again who knows @[email protected]

either way i wish em good luck getting back on their feet ^^
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Ansuz Isaz on Jun 23, 2008, 05:10 pm
I honestly don't see major problems with this. xD

Let's consinder pure base points you could normally put into DEX to get insta-cast, and ignore everything else for a moment. Then, let's compare it to the changed system EssenceRO has.

Default iRO set-up:
150 - 99 = 51 more DEX needed for instant cast.
New EssenceRO set-up:
190 - 150 = 40 more DEX needed for instant cast.

In the end, it's still easier, so I don't see a major problem with the DEX modification. This is coming from an offensive-based spell casting Professor player who kind of wants that speed for more bolt flinging. =P Sure, it's harder than it had been, but it's still easier than the original difference one could try to get to.

As far the ASPD, I support the reduction on that as well. xD Personally, anything beyond 190 makes the attack speed ridiculous.

I kind of feel like these are problems that are being fixed, and almost temps me to give eRO another shot. xD
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Visions on Jun 23, 2008, 10:11 pm
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 23, 2008, 10:20 pm
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Visions on Jun 23, 2008, 10:23 pm
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?

LOL! This is coming from the moron who provoked me through a PM first. He claims to be a medical student yet his grammar and flames reflect the intelligence of a 10 year old.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 23, 2008, 10:28 pm
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?

LOL! This is coming from the moron who provoked me through a PM first. He claims to be a medical student yet his grammar and flames reflect the intelligence of a 10 year old.

I am a medical student, and I've shown you proof. How did I provoke you? I would never start a fight, I only finish fights with people who pick them with me. If you've got a problem with me, sure. However, did you know I'm heading somewhere good in life? Where are you at? You're making a server called AeriaRO which sucks donkey balls.

My current project? Better than yours.
My intelligence? Better than you.
My experience? More than you.

When you've made yourself a better person, then try arguing with me.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Guest on Jun 23, 2008, 11:42 pm
hmmm i have an idea...
you two stop flaming -_-

Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 24, 2008, 04:52 am
I honestly don't see major problems with this. xD

Let's consinder pure base points you could normally put into DEX to get insta-cast, and ignore everything else for a moment. Then, let's compare it to the changed system EssenceRO has.

Default iRO set-up:
150 - 99 = 51 more DEX needed for instant cast.
New EssenceRO set-up:
190 - 150 = 40 more DEX needed for instant cast.

In the end, it's still easier, so I don't see a major problem with the DEX modification. This is coming from an offensive-based spell casting Professor player who kind of wants that speed for more bolt flinging. =P Sure, it's harder than it had been, but it's still easier than the original difference one could try to get to.

As far the ASPD, I support the reduction on that as well. xD Personally, anything beyond 190 makes the attack speed ridiculous.

I kind of feel like these are problems that are being fixed, and almost temps me to give eRO another shot. xD

Unfotunately, Max Lvl is 170. So they need points for other stats as well. But there are still +dex/magic reduction cards. But still, wouldn't it be better to put something better than a +dex/cast reduction card?
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 24, 2008, 05:19 am
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?

LOL! This is coming from the moron who provoked me through a PM first. He claims to be a medical student yet his grammar and flames reflect the intelligence of a 10 year old.

I am a medical student, and I've shown you proof. How did I provoke you? I would never start a fight, I only finish fights with people who pick them with me. If you've got a problem with me, sure. However, did you know I'm heading somewhere good in life? Where are you at? You're making a server called AeriaRO which sucks donkey balls.

My current project? Better than yours.
My intelligence? Better than you.
My experience? More than you.

When you've made yourself a better person, then try arguing with me.
Both of yu are stupid so STFU and stop spamming... sorry... (>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 24, 2008, 11:12 am
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?

LOL! This is coming from the moron who provoked me through a PM first. He claims to be a medical student yet his grammar and flames reflect the intelligence of a 10 year old.

I am a medical student, and I've shown you proof. How did I provoke you? I would never start a fight, I only finish fights with people who pick them with me. If you've got a problem with me, sure. However, did you know I'm heading somewhere good in life? Where are you at? You're making a server called AeriaRO which sucks donkey balls.

My current project? Better than yours.
My intelligence? Better than you.
My experience? More than you.

When you've made yourself a better person, then try arguing with me.
Both of yu are stupid so STFU and stop spamming... sorry... (>.>)

Hmm...? They're arguing with each other best not to disturb them. At least make a decent post that actually counts. Rather than calling them to stupid, why not prevent them from flaming. Besides, that was really out of topic.

@Topic

So...most of the player base agrees, but how much exactly? There seems to be a lot leaving... :-\
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 24, 2008, 11:33 am
The mail dupe was fixed after rv12200, if the owners bothered to check the changelog this could have been avoided. There goes the "best mid-rate server". /laf

Stop being an donkey and sending stupid s*** over PMs. You're a loser, and always will be... stfu, alright?

LOL! This is coming from the moron who provoked me through a PM first. He claims to be a medical student yet his grammar and flames reflect the intelligence of a 10 year old.

I am a medical student, and I've shown you proof. How did I provoke you? I would never start a fight, I only finish fights with people who pick them with me. If you've got a problem with me, sure. However, did you know I'm heading somewhere good in life? Where are you at? You're making a server called AeriaRO which sucks donkey balls.

My current project? Better than yours.
My intelligence? Better than you.
My experience? More than you.

When you've made yourself a better person, then try arguing with me.
Both of yu are stupid so STFU and stop spamming... sorry... (>.>)

Who are you? If you're calling me stupid... read your post. You flamed and then apologized, it can't get any stupider than that my friend.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Visions on Jun 24, 2008, 12:26 pm
First of all genius, you flamed an entire server. You then PMed me to wave your epeen around some. From those PMs it seems very likely that you have or are still being bullied IRL. Is that it? Why is attacking someone over the internet such a rush to you? Do you troll around RMS flaming people to make up for your own pathetic existence in the real world?

You have little to no reasoning behind your flames and you obviously care about what people from the internet think about you.

@ Everyone else: Hello? My first post was on topic.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: ~~T~~ on Jun 24, 2008, 02:13 pm
@ Everyone else: Hello? My first post was on topic.
Hi, Now your posts are flaming/offtopic.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Visions on Jun 24, 2008, 03:57 pm
@ Everyone else: Hello? My first post was on topic.
Hi, Now your posts are flaming/offtopic.

Hypocrite.
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Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Guest on Jun 24, 2008, 05:36 pm
Aragorn you've already been put on mod once so don't start insulting ppl again

and can we get back ontopic now?
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 24, 2008, 05:58 pm
Aragorn you've already been put on mod once so don't start insulting ppl again

and can we get back ontopic now?
Im jus sayin... (>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 25, 2008, 04:29 am
First of all genius, you flamed an entire server. You then PMed me to wave your epeen around some. From those PMs it seems very likely that you have or are still being bullied IRL. Is that it? Why is attacking someone over the internet such a rush to you? Do you troll around RMS flaming people to make up for your own pathetic existence in the real world?

You have little to no reasoning behind your flames and you obviously care about what people from the internet think about you.

@ Everyone else: Hello? My first post was on topic.

Lol, it's calling having a good reputation. And I'm not bullied in real life, more like respected. That's why I'm not use to your disrespectful behavior, because I've never met anyone so ignorant and stupid in real life. Plus, I am not attacking you... if you've read my flame, I would never start a fight, I will only finish it.

And I don't 'troll' on RMS flaming people. Please read my responses before you talk, unless you cannot read? My flames are backed up to the fullest, as I've said your intelligence is slim to none. How did I prove this? You've flamed me in areas which I've stated false.

I, as a person help the world by doing good things. Charitable, you know?

Like this $400 donation to NSAL,
http://www.surgero.com/NSAL/NSAL2.jpg - Receipt
http://www.surgero.com/NSAL/NSAL1.jpg - Certificate

I've donated more than $3,000 to NSAL and more than $2,000 to Child's Play Charity. My existence in the world matters. People like you don't matter. See the difference between us? I'm well respected in real life by family, friends, and school mates. You on the other hand only argue, criticize, and have nothing.

Got anything else to say before this medical student goes all up on you again?
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Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Guest on Jun 25, 2008, 01:09 pm
Got anything else to say before this medical student goes all up on you again?
i don't know if he does but i know i do

Lol, it's calling having a good reputation.
right now all you have is the reputation of a immature flamer/troll (i see all flamer's/troll's like this =P)

because I've never met anyone so ignorant and stupid in real life.
Please read my responses before you talk, unless you cannot read?
My flames are backed up to the fullest, as I've said your intelligence is slim to none. How did I prove this? You've flamed me in areas which I've stated false.
just because you can be literate doesn't mean its still not a flame

Plus, I am not attacking you... if you've read my flame, I would never start a fight, I will only finish it.
to finish a fight you still need to attack someone
oh and thanks for admitting to flaming him

And I don't 'troll' on RMS flaming people.
really if you want to make it look like you don't.... stop flaming him already

See the difference between us? I'm well respected in real life by family, friends, and school mates.
You on the other hand only argue, criticize, and have nothing.
a rather low blow....



now the way i see it is we have 3 choices~

1) we get back ontopic and bla bla
2) i lock this topic and thats the end
3) the flames continue and so do the warns

personally i prefer number one the best.... but we'll see what happens... it all depends on the next few posts i guess
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Loki on Jun 25, 2008, 01:21 pm
The topic was started to discuss ways to deal with the duped items. I don't think it should be close because of a few flames. Besides, you're a mod. Edit their post if they flame.


MOD POWAH!
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Keropi on Jun 25, 2008, 04:53 pm
Got anything else to say before this medical student goes all up on you again?
i don't know if he does but i know i do

Lol, it's calling having a good reputation.
right now all you have is the reputation of a immature flamer/troll (i see all flamer's/troll's like this =P)

because I've never met anyone so ignorant and stupid in real life.
Please read my responses before you talk, unless you cannot read?
My flames are backed up to the fullest, as I've said your intelligence is slim to none. How did I prove this? You've flamed me in areas which I've stated false.
just because you can be literate doesn't mean its still not a flame

Plus, I am not attacking you... if you've read my flame, I would never start a fight, I will only finish it.
to finish a fight you still need to attack someone
oh and thanks for admitting to flaming him

And I don't 'troll' on RMS flaming people.
really if you want to make it look like you don't.... stop flaming him already

See the difference between us? I'm well respected in real life by family, friends, and school mates.
You on the other hand only argue, criticize, and have nothing.
a rather low blow....



now the way i see it is we have 3 choices~

1) we get back ontopic and bla bla
2) i lock this topic and thats the end
3) the flames continue and so do the warns

personally i prefer number one the best.... but we'll see what happens... it all depends on the next few posts i guess

Sorry moderator, but you haven't even seen the messages he's sent me in PMs. So you have absolutely no right to side with him unless you, yourself respect flamers like him.

I've stated it 2 times already. I don't start fights, I end them. You pick a fight with me, and I'll be sure to fight til the end with no dirty tricks or lies. I only state facts and truths.

So keep thinking you're a good man for flaming me, hypocrite.

Oh by the way, lock this topic before I make you look bad by showing what this person has sent me and how you magically just decided to side with this person. And yes, this is a challenge.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Scars on Jun 25, 2008, 05:17 pm
@Keropi
dude Just stfu, no one care you donate, you got flame first or you start, you end, you state fact, you lie, your'e right, your'e wrong, a flame is a flame, its annoying. What more, its much far from the topic, just END it. Or do it in PMs.

Back to topic:

So whats going on with essence? did wipe/roll back happen? If nothing has been decide yet, Admins just have to do what they have to do, knowing the consequences. Make a choice, do what you they think its best, and do damage control. Such as making lots of events after wipe/rollback, double drop rates and such, give consoloations ect.

Not deciding soon is making things worst, I actually haven't been to updated on this topic, I just post this to get back to the topic, stating general facts/ideas.

One that can sign on all items including slotted?

Cheers.
Posted on: Jun 25, 2008, 09:08 am
Well just to update everyone on this.

Essence has decided to do a Full Item and Zeny wipe, but leave all the characters as they are.

During the wipe, they will also be updating the SVN and will be making some changes to ensure that some of the server problems (yes, sadly, even the best Mid rate server out there has some problems) will not happen again. 

The only thing is, we are losing some players over this because the administration has decided to increase instant cast dexterity requirement and lower Maximum Aspd from 195 to 193.   Some players don't like the sudden change in gameplay and thus are leaving the server.

I can only hope that Essence bounces back from this and doesn't lose out.  I know several servers that have hit the usual "Year Bump" and die out after a year of being up, but if they can go on past that, they usually get better.

anyway, thank you all for your comments on the situation.

I apologized for my last post, got lost in flames, so you guys decided a wipe. In my opinion, it is not very wise to take further changes/edits during wipe such as changing attack speed and all. Wipe=Urge players to quit, + adding changes they don't like is another extra. I suggest wipe, let players who stayed settles for a while, then decide on further changes.
Also a good idea would be make a change that everyone, or a big majority(impossible to please everyone) would love, so they have an urge to stay too, or good news to look forward to.

But that's just me.

Wish you all the best.
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Aragorn on Jun 25, 2008, 05:55 pm
both of yu STFU no one cares about you.... sorry... i just want you to on topic....(>.>)
Title: Re: Essence RO Down Due to Duping
Post by: Guest on Jun 25, 2008, 06:12 pm
mmmm i'm going to keep this forum of all possible off-topicness (lol ya i know its not a word but i like it =3)
so me and mr./mrs. Keropi will be taking this issue into PM's ^^

but just on a final note =3
if there is so much as one more off topic / flame / troll / spam / what ever on this thread im going to close it okay? ^^


lol nvm closing it now