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Offline PhilO

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #45 on: Sep 07, 2014, 10:02 am »
 Requesting deletion of    leokimah's last post.and a portion of Triper's first post.

and this post to afterwards.
« Last Edit: Sep 07, 2014, 10:09 am by PhilO »

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Offline leokimah

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #46 on: Sep 07, 2014, 11:46 am »
EDIT: Tiper's post sums it up pretty well.
« Last Edit: Sep 07, 2014, 12:05 pm by leokimah »

Offline Triper

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #47 on: Sep 07, 2014, 11:49 am »
@PhilO: I still don't see any problem about this. I already told stuff like this before in the forum and there are tons of places with info related to this [prevent and secure your server against them, etc]. This isn't physics, it's a simple thing that can be done by anyone that knows how to turn on a computer.

If you're scared that anyone can start doing them more times after this, you're wrong.

Anyone that wants to start a "business" around this won't get far because they're only doing what any 4th grade can do and those things are lame DDoS that any normal decent host can hold [a ton of ro servers nowadays are lame vps that can't hold s***]. The real ones, if anything, will only help the enterprises that develop anti-DDoS stuff be richer because the real ones are expensive to do to last a lot of time since it asks time and money to be something considered bad and if you're paying anything, it's to the ones that prevent them because paying once to the enemy is the same as saying "my pocket is full of gold, bring it on!" and they will come back for more.

@dontknowright: There is actually an easy way to do them that is available to anyone. While many doesn't know about it, there is enough knowledge about his existence and if you know the basics of how things work, you can get actually quite far with it. It's not a big DDoS but enough to do some damage if you've a poor DDoS protection or don't have any at all.
« Last Edit: Sep 07, 2014, 12:05 pm by Triper »

Offline PhilO

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #48 on: Sep 07, 2014, 01:26 pm »
 I am learning with this topic about DDOS Attacks.i believe that what you say its true,because it makes sense.but then again ,whats the use of revealing such information anyway?does it help the cause?.i just dont see how saying its easy to DDOS Attack servers, could be helpful.you say that the ignorant easy ones are to weak to do anything,but behind those weak attacks are thinking people.meaning they could improve from there.so you could by a very small chance ,end up giving the initial encouragement needed, for these people to initiate.a very small chance.

i just dont like the idea that this topic, may become something negative.i didnt start it for that purpose.but i could be wrong, since i lack knowledge about this.


if possible ,delete this post after it as served its purpose.

Offline dontknowright

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #49 on: Sep 07, 2014, 01:28 pm »
Triper, agreed.

Small attacks are simple, and easily blocked. Medium attacks are not that difficult to dish out, and can be stopped with some knowledge. Large attacks are much more rare, requires some resources, money, and underground connections to pull off.

Then you have the really smart bad guys - people who hit you with +40GB/s at over +5M pps on various protocols while blind sighting you from lowkey specialized layer 7 attacks that go unnoticed.

There's a lot of crap going on constantly
http://www.digitalattackmap.com/

Offline PhilO

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #50 on: Sep 07, 2014, 04:04 pm »
 I would rather keep that in the shadows,but if you guys who know more about this than me think its ok, than i suppose..
« Last Edit: Sep 07, 2014, 04:46 pm by PhilO »

Offline Triper

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #51 on: Sep 08, 2014, 02:53 pm »
What he shared is just a statistics map and some good extra info to anyone new about this problem.
It's better to know how those things work than to just say "F***, DDoS!".

Offline leokimah

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #52 on: Sep 08, 2014, 05:53 pm »
I would rather keep that in the shadows,but if you guys who know more about this than me think its ok, than i suppose..

Anyone who is even remotely interested in issuing a DDoS attack isn't going to come to these forums to learn how to do it. Lets just leave it at that.

Triper, agreed.

Small attacks are simple, and easily blocked. Medium attacks are not that difficult to dish out, and can be stopped with some knowledge. Large attacks are much more rare, requires some resources, money, and underground connections to pull off.

Then you have the really smart bad guys - people who hit you with +40GB/s at over +5M pps on various protocols while blind sighting you from lowkey specialized layer 7 attacks that go unnoticed.

There's a lot of crap going on constantly
http://www.digitalattackmap.com/

Large attacks happen quite often, just not on RO. No one is going to spend a bunch of resources (possibly even money) and time to DDoS a 300 population server.

Large gaming companies like Riot, Valve, and Blizzard get taken down all the time. Riot has been getting shut down almost every night for the past 6 months by some heavy DDoS.

Here is a more interesting map for those who liked the previous one that was posted. http://map.ipviking.com/

Offline Triper

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #53 on: Sep 08, 2014, 06:22 pm »
That map is cool, I wish I could play a game like that :c

Offline boxlunch

Re: DDOS Attacks
« Reply #54 on: Sep 08, 2014, 11:41 pm »
DDOS attacks happen to everyone, and servers usually end up hurt by them when their host is attacked; like others have said, only an idiot with no life would attack a single RO server. When the host goes down, everything including the server is taken down too. Basically, if you have an unreliable host, you're just asking for trouble.

The best thing you can do to mitigate your losses is hire/recruit a specialist on your end. It can be expensive, but it's an investment that pays off in the long-run.