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Offline Caamora

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #30 on: Feb 17, 2009, 08:46 pm »
Not really, I conduct the most honest answers to all the questions of the users on our server and I tell them to post reviews on RMS HONESTLY. Thats kinda what our server is based off of is honesty. I dont lie to them about things and they dont lie to me. Kinda goes hand in hand.

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Offline Hanyuu

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #31 on: Feb 17, 2009, 08:55 pm »
Gravity wouldn't sue anyone, because if they do, they have to sue everyone who has a private server, and they cannot track down everyone. On top of that, try sueing a 12 year old girl.

They're not going to sue private servers also because of the fact that they can get free ideas/items/sprites from the hundreds of players making custom items. All they have to do is join RUNE or rip off pserver's grf files, edit the credits or change the color slightly and claim it as their own. For the most part pservers can't do much.
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Offline Edward

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #32 on: Feb 21, 2009, 07:18 am »
Gravity wouldn't sue anyone, because if they do, they have to sue everyone who has a private server, and they cannot track down everyone. On top of that, try sueing a 12 year old girl.

They're not going to sue private servers also because of the fact that they can get free ideas/items/sprites from the hundreds of players making custom items. All they have to do is join RUNE or rip off pserver's grf files, edit the credits or change the color slightly and claim it as their own. For the most part pservers can't do much.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Customized item/char/effect sprites have been made before the private servers were introduced... Mostly artists from Asia. The reason why Gravity won't, or cannot sue is because reverse engineering is LEGAL in most countries. And their installer is download-able FREE OF CHARGE. The only way Gravity can sue is if you alter the sakexe, like xray has. That's why xray sets it's downloads in 'hidden' rar format. This is because it violates Gravity's Terms of Service.

And yes, they do get ideas from private fan-based servers... but if you think about it... it's all in mutual respect for each other's creativity. Many will say that Gravity is "ripping-off" sprites, but they're taking an idea which they personally approve of to make it popular in the legitimate server. That's showing respect for an artist's creativity.

Offline Auroraâ„¢

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #33 on: Feb 21, 2009, 11:16 am »
How many times are we going to debate about the suing issue on these forums?

Gravity has already attempted to sue eAthena, and failed, and it's a court law that you cannot sue a person, company, whatever, for the same reason after losing the first trial. If Gravity really wanted to sue eAthena or some private server, they would have to find some other reason besides copyright, seeing as they've already lost that battle. On top of that, like a couple of people have already said, Gravity can actually use Private Servers for their own benefit, and why would you want to destroy something you can, essentially, make more money off of?

Anyways.

I'm pretty sure this topic isn't about whether or not Gravity can sue this private server or that private server, and why they won't/can't.


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Offline Guest

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #34 on: Feb 21, 2009, 03:29 pm »
xD its all about making more money, gravity won't sue unless it can, but they CAN sue if they know your using their "product" for personal gain

anyway, any (this sounds contradictory i know) good corrupt server owner knows that gravity will only sue to make more money, and will only take action if they KNOW they can prove it, so a lot of server owners do jump through that loop hole

Descent

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Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #35 on: Feb 21, 2009, 03:44 pm »
Depending on how much the server made.

If their yearly "donation" intake is over $500,000 USD, I'd say that'd be just cause to take some form of action.

I highly doubt servers attain those types of numbers nowadays, though. :S

Offline Guest

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #36 on: Feb 21, 2009, 03:45 pm »
xD nahhhh more like 100 000
but ya its hard to find servers with that kind of income, but i do know of one /swt

Descent

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Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #37 on: Feb 21, 2009, 03:54 pm »
xD nahhhh more like 100 000
but ya its hard to find servers with that kind of income, but i do know of one /swt

Lol, I do too, I know exactly who you're talking about. :P

But yeah, point is, Gravity will never take action unless if they really have something to gain from it.

Usually, Private servers can HELP Gravity, or at least the corrupt ones, because enough stories of corruption and bannings and eventually they'll just bite the bullet and play iRO in peace.

Offline Ragplayer

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #38 on: Mar 23, 2009, 02:57 pm »
Haha i was playing DeityRO, and there is 7 people online usually, all friends from another server, the GM is one of the friends to. All they do is sit in pront, there all level 50-70 characters. Its a low rate server so they don't feel like leveling. So my friend and I join the server, and we start leveling like mad, i was level 88 in 4 days from mobbing hillwinds. So they complain, say were bots, so the GM bans us without an evidence. They said I looked to mechanical. Then they started to try to demean me and say they have screenshot evidence, which they never showed and was obviously made up.  But so far, they are the most inexperianced and biased GMs ive ever seen.  I got a chuckle from it tho. Deity RO is basically a chatroom haha, if you level your labeled a bot and banned. It's jsut funny cause the owner is a 16 year old who probably just took scripts from someone else.
« Last Edit: Mar 23, 2009, 03:04 pm by Ragplayer »

Offline Cielte

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #39 on: Mar 23, 2009, 03:00 pm »
Haha i was playing DeityRO, and there is 7 people online usually, all friends from another server, the GM is one of the friends to. All they do is sit in pront, there all level 50-70 characters. Its a low rate server so they don't feel like leveling. So my friend and I join the server, and we start leveling like mad, i was level 88 in 4 days from mobbing hillwinds. So they complain, say were bots, so the GM bans us without an evidence. They said I looked to mechanical. Then they started to try to demean me and say they have screenshot evidence, which they never showed and was obviously made up.  But so far, they are the most inexperianced and biased GMs ive ever seen.  I got a chuckle from it tho. Deity RO is basically a chatroom haha, if you level your labeled a bot and banned.


...huh? What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Offline Ragplayer

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #40 on: Mar 23, 2009, 03:01 pm »
Well, the topic is called Corrupt Server Owners.

Offline Cielte

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #41 on: Mar 23, 2009, 03:15 pm »
Ever seen a server owner that just made a Ragnarok server to play around. Or a server that is sold to a dimwit who dosen't know s*** about what he is doing?

Was the original post in this topic.

Plus, even if it did happen. You've got no proof it seems, so it doesn't really matter.

Offline A92FL0163

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #42 on: Mar 23, 2009, 03:27 pm »
Gravity can sue a private server if they allegate that it is giving a loss of profit that equal to 5% (or more?) of their monthly gain. And, uh, since we are in Companies sueing private servers:
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Nexon is srs busnes.

Descent

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Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #43 on: Mar 23, 2009, 04:34 pm »
Oh please, Nexon has some serious bollocks to spew nonsense like that.

Only reason they care is because nobody in their right mind would pay for Maplestory.

Offline LemonCrosswalk

Re: Corrupt Server Owners
« Reply #44 on: Mar 24, 2009, 12:30 am »
Oh please, Nexon has some serious bollocks to spew nonsense like that.

Only reason they care is because nobody in their right mind would pay for Maplestory.

(How CAN people play Maplestory when it's own system encourages KSing)

Anyway, on topic of a few months ago, I think it is one thing to take donations to use for yourself when you are doing the hosting. When you are paying for a company to host it, rarely upkeep the server or have other people code (for free), and then every month lie about being short to get people to donate more.

As for being sued, I think you only need to worry about that if you have one of the mega-population servers.