Corrupt Server Owners

Started by Zelos, Feb 12, 2009, 09:28 PM

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Xeighter

I disagree, a lot of people exaggerate extensively.

Littlechan

Quote from: Skotlex on Feb 13, 2009, 06:12 AM
Server ratings need a Corruption Rating Category, so that reviewers can vote on that in a 0%~100% scale :B

Then people can sort servers on average corruption rating :D

people will abuse it o.o


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Auroraâ„¢

A lot of people exaggerate, period, and are given plenty of leeway to abuse the current review system.

Just like we have to trust them with giving a legit review (even though a lot of people don't, to begin with), you would have to give them enough trust you post a legit review on the corruption of a server, even though I doubt it'd even be implemented on RMS, but I do think it's a neat idea.


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Zone

I say no, not that my opinion matters, but people will seriously post s*** about a server claiming so and so is corrupt just cause they had a friend say some s***. I've seen it happen plenty of times before.
No.

Hanyuu

Lots of people say servers are corrupted, sometimes it's true and sometimes it's all just speculation that spreads and turns into "truth" due to the amount of people who back it up.

But like a lot of others have said, most private servers are corrupted in some way or form (cept mou since it has no gms). I've given up trying to find a noncorrupt server that fits me.
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Ayu

Can't really verify for what is "corrupted" in a server unless you try it yourself. Generally though when I look for a server, "amount of corruption" is not something that I look at since it's so easy for the statements about corruption to be exaggerated/covered up.

The very definition of a "corrupt GM/server owner" differs from person to person to begin with. You never know if a review's claim of corruption matches what you see as corruption or not (similar to "balance" in a server.)

Irrelevant

Then again a corruption scoring strikes more awe into any new player than any of the current server scores; people would just "legitimately" review (as in decent/correct scores for each category), while leaving the corruption scoring at 0 or 10 -whatever the lowest scoring is deemed to be-. This would just create a bunch of review claims for yC to investigate.

All in all, if a server is corrupt -rotten corrupt- the player's voices will reach out to sites like RMS and the word will spread.

Omi

Quote from: Creed on Feb 12, 2009, 09:28 PM
Ever seen a server owner that just made a Ragnarok server to play around. Or a server that is sold to a dimwit who dosen't know s*** about what he is doing?

i've seen you be a gm

most servers are corrupt, but honestly, who cares? if you have fun, thats all that should matter.  If the GM uses donation money for himself, who cares, just don't donate then.  If a GM gives his legit unfair gears, who cares, just kick his donkey and make yourself feel special for beating someone who needs to cheat, etc.

Zone

Honestly, I don't see a GM using the money he gets from donations being a problem.
The staff work to bring the users entertainment, they take their time to do it, I feel that if the server is paid for, then it shouldn't be a problem.

Besides, you won't know what the person is using the donations on.

Omi

thats how I see it, but normally 50%~75% of the population go "OMG WTF" when you tell them that you spend donation money on yourself.  They all think that 100% of it (even when you get a years worth of hosting a month, like some servers have had before) should be spent on the server, when it's not really needed at all.

Tira

Quote from: Sir Schmoopy on Feb 14, 2009, 03:25 PM
thats how I see it, but normally 50%~75% of the population go "OMG WTF" when you tell them that you spend donation money on yourself.  They all think that 100% of it (even when you get a years worth of hosting a month, like some servers have had before) should be spent on the server, when it's not really needed at all.

Then don't call it a "donation". Call it "getting paid".

Scars


Tira

Quote from: Scars on Feb 14, 2009, 03:59 PM
And get sued?

You honestly think this is in Gravity's best financial interests? Unless the server in question was raking in hundreds of thousands, they would get no benefit from this whatsoever beyond an expensive legal outlay on their part. There are plenty of servers who've referred to their profitable donations as a "Cash Shop" and skipped merrily along their way.

If you're making enough from "donations" to actually catch the attention of Gravity, it won't matter what you call them regardless.

Guest

look at it this way, when a company sues someone they factor in how much time, and how much they can make as a net profit

if they can make more money then they have to spend, then most company's will sue just to make the profit

Zone

Gravity wouldn't sue anyone, because if they do, they have to sue everyone who has a private server, and they cannot track down everyone. On top of that, try sueing a 12 year old girl.