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Offline Playtester

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2022, 05:04 am »
RO in general, I doubt it'll die. jRO and kRO still exists. Whole different story outside those places though.

I kinda get why they'd go after private servers more seriously, but going after content creators as well? What are they trying to do? Having RO Content creators is one way to get players invested in this game, regardless of whether or not it's for officials or private servers. Going after said people will only hurt the growth of the game, no matter how small it is.

Combine those with the fact that iRO isn't ran by competent people and the numerous issues plaguing the game in general (bots, s*** economy, the mess that is renewal and 3rd/4th jobs) and you have a recipe for disaster.

God knows what will happen to RO outside Korea and Japan now.
Yeah, I honestly feel that this move will hurt Gravity more than they gain from it, at least in terms of new player influx. Streamers are the main way to get people to even KNOW about your game these days, especially if it's an old game and not a brand new release.

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Offline AlizaApron

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2022, 05:09 am »
The problem is any server that takes players from big servers will become a target. Plus this scene already had a problem with new players and now that streaming is banned the withering will accelerate... sad stuff

Offline Wosi2

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2022, 06:00 am »
I specifically registered to say that I'm in shock. I am old and I remember the struggle with private servers 20 years ago. 20 Years!!!
but then nothing happened, but now this state is close to defeat.

How quickly the famous private servers with hundreds of live players have buried everything that has been accumulated for years or even over the decades, without trying to fight. Perhaps they wouldn't have had to fight, and this letter was an act of fright. And everyone succumbed to this fright instantly. shock.

You do realise, that law suits cost insane anounts of money for the defendant? Also there is a criminal component not to be underestimated. No jail time ofc, but serious fines and heavy costs for lawyers.

Out of what funds would you suggest private servers (especially no donations or no p2w servers) take this money?

For these with a paywall, the gained money would be impounded anyway. So there is serious risk, if one gets sued however unlikely that may be 

There are whole existences hanging in the balance. Maybe Jobs and family too. Because some employers or family members might not look kindly on someone beeing sued for this kind of infringement.

However frustrating this may be, try put yourself in their shoes.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2022, 06:41 am by Wosi2 »

Offline OldPoring

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2022, 10:00 am »
You do realise, that law suits cost insane anounts of money for the defendant? Also there is a criminal component not to be underestimated. No jail time ofc, but serious fines and heavy costs for lawyers.
they provide an opportunity to get acquainted with the game based on the emulator. Then at least you need to sue the developers of the Athena and Hercules emulators as counterfeit software.
I am not suggesting that they sue, but it was possible just wait for a court decision, if one would take place. and the solution would be to close the server and no more. And after that it was possible to close the server.
To turn to the experience of the past, at the peak of the popularity of the game 2005-2010, there were also attempts to fight with server emulators, but it didn't end with anything terrible for server owners. if then everyone was so timid, we would not have any private server.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2022, 10:07 am by OldPoring »

Offline Wosi2

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2022, 10:22 am »
The emulator is self written and may be a grey area in some countrys. But as it is copyying essentials of the game I doubt it.

But the clients that are used and provided are defenitly no grey area. So there is no need to await the result. If your getting sued, you will lose the case if you are providing the client on your website.

But even if you would win the case against all odds it is still a major problem you have to deal with. So I understand why they close up or go into hiding until this hopefully blows over.

Dont get me wrong.  I think this us a futule attampt of gravity. They will never be able to shut down all private servers. And even if they did, new ones would resurface better hidden.

But at the moment, I would not want to stick out and be the one that gets picket out to make an example of.

Offline Inspector Clouseau

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2022, 11:26 am »
Profit and money is what motivates this greedy company. And I think they'll stop trying when they realize they are just throwing away their money and not recuperating anything back.

If their lawyer teams were treated as their servers and graded on profit margins, they will be on the chopping block soon...

Offline distilled1

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2022, 12:16 am »
Wow. Sad time for RO for sure right now, especially if you're a Pre-Renewal player.
If I actually had time to play, I'd be pretty pissed right now. I mean what options are even left at this point?
Warp Portal won't provide a Pre-renewal server, RetRO is gone, Origins is gone, Travels is gone, OathRO is gone. /wah
Dafuq? /wah
DOWN WITH MULTI-CLIENTING!

Offline LumpiaWrapper

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2022, 12:24 am »
Wow. Sad time for RO for sure right now, especially if you're a Pre-Renewal player.
If I actually had time to play, I'd be pretty pissed right now. I mean what options are even left at this point?
Warp Portal won't provide a Pre-renewal server, RetRO is gone, Origins is gone, Travels is gone, OathRO is gone. /wah
Dafuq? /wah
oRO is not down same with OR.
only retRO and Travels are gone, theyre discord is gone too and i cant access their site.

Offline Sairek Ceareste

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2022, 02:57 am »
Wow. Sad time for RO for sure right now, especially if you're a Pre-Renewal player.
If I actually had time to play, I'd be pretty pissed right now. I mean what options are even left at this point?
Warp Portal won't provide a Pre-renewal server, RetRO is gone, Origins is gone, Travels is gone, OathRO is gone. /wah
Dafuq? /wah


We're still here, we are just unlisted from RMS.

Just because a server is delisted from RMS doesn't mean it's shut down. Gravity knows RMS exists -- they've tried to take the site down before. There's no need to be on a potential hit list right now and many other people are being just as cautious right now.

Until this blows over, Oath will be trying to advertise through word of mouth instead. Unfortunately though with three (probably soon four) low rate servers closing up its doors within a week, people aren't exactly spoiled for choice on which servers to pick from anymore. I wouldn't blame people for quitting, or at least taking a long hiatus if they spent years on a low rate server only for it to shut down.  /sob

Offline Oathkeeper

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2022, 03:03 am »
With all the players we cater to on Oath, we really did not want to be in the spotlight while this whole thing is going on. I think it will blow over. I hope it will blow over. However, until then, I have to consider my duty and care to our players and staff who have put countless hours into the game. We may sacrifice some visibility, but we are doing it to mitigate risks. I prefer this course of action over pulling the plug on ten of thousands of hours of people's time or provoking the wrath of a company who hasn't given a s*** about these people we serve and only see them as dollar signs.

Offline RebirthOfficial

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2022, 04:57 am »
I think it will blow over. I hope it will blow over. However, until then, I have to consider my duty and care to our players and staff who have put countless hours into the game.

Even if it does blow over, you (or anyone, really) risk being the next Nova if you come back into visibility again.

Offline OldPoring

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2022, 07:16 am »
Yes, it all looks like the end, the death of private servers. At least for low-rated servers.

About a year renewed interest for a x1 pre renewal servers, I think it's completely killed now. You have thrown thousands of hours of grind into nowhere! This should act as a sobering up from continuing this kind activity.

Yes, new servers will arise, but now you need to choose a casual game on the server x50.
To just go in for an hour and run around in the world of Ragnorok, look at the animation of your favorite skills and character sprites, so as not to regret if you don't find a server at the next visit, but just register for the next one ))

Offline AlizaApron

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2022, 03:01 pm »
A lot of shutdowns now  /wah

Talon, Alfheim, Origins, Asgard Legends, Travels, Dreamer, Koko, Solace, Retro have closed
« Last Edit: May 10, 2022, 05:51 pm by AlizaApron »

Offline plarr

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2022, 03:43 pm »
ya, they absolutely are a smoking gun. what are we supposed to do in the future, they havent done anything total admirable since they released el discastes and it still is a good map when you play it in Pre-Renewal.

Offline madus

Re: Beginning of the end for RO?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2022, 12:38 am »
I am pretty sure I know what youre getting at, that is pretty unique of a situation