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Title: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Jupiters on Jul 26, 2020, 12:12 pm
Greetings,

For those who don't know, essenceRO was a very successful midrate back in 2007-2015, although in the last few years the GM team back then simply abandoned it but kept it running nonetheless. In 2017 us old eRO players were told of a remake of our beloved server, this time by Kiwi. The 2017 relaunch was anything but successful, the server having more bugs and broken features than working ones, incompetent people being made GMs, the list goes on yet they still accepted donations, which people did hand out quite generously since they had high hopes or the server. It closed down pretty quick, in about 3 months, making it feel like a total cash grab and leaving a lot of people pretty pissed about it.

Now in 2020, eRO had another remake by Kiwi again, and with the same issues the previous one had straight from the launch. Innumerable bugs, broken features, straight up gamebreaking glitches, you name it. Kiwi herself said the opening state was essentially alpha release, and of course once again accepted donations while saying she doesn't care about them.

https://imgur.com/a/jZqk62o (https://imgur.com/a/jZqk62o)

https://imgur.com/a/JzgYypp (https://imgur.com/a/JzgYypp)

Asking people's donations to get something as basic as website for your server? Really now?

Anyway moving on, these are just few of the many issues on the server. Bugs and glitches did get sort of fixed eventually, though nearly every time something new was added or updated, it was broken and took some patches to have a bubblegum fix for them, one recurring one being BG. Battlegrounds on this version of essence was a wild ride, with happy hour (double rewards, didn't always work either though) glitching out randomly or not even starting at all. New hats getting introduced with missing sprites or outright crashing everyone, lost count on all the things already.

Next issue is, again, GM team. Kiwi said she won't be having any other GMs besides her and Tempy, the other admin, and some sub-GMs for being ingame police.

https://imgur.com/a/FsRNxTo (https://imgur.com/a/FsRNxTo)

Now this is an interesting one, she also claims here that there will be just one event GM account that is accessible only with her permission, but nope. There have been three event GMs, one of them being her long time friend GM Angie. The issue here? Wouldn't really be any, if she didn't lie about things. All event GMs had access to their accounts regardless of her permission, and to make things more fun, also have @item command at their disposal. Which they shouldn't, ever.

https://imgur.com/a/mVQQlPY (https://imgur.com/a/mVQQlPY)

This was posted after there was an incident of one of the event GMs abusing @item apparently. What makes this worse is, she's outright lying about the accessibility to @item and it being used.

https://imgur.com/a/QeS5Z1T (https://imgur.com/a/QeS5Z1T)

Here we can see Kiwi's good friend Angie using @item despite supposedly not having it, and having some interesting items on her account. The problem here isn't just having access to the command, but also head admin openly lying about it, for reasons unknown. Maybe being good enough friends with Kiwi gets you access to commands? The bias is also shown in essenceRO's discord, where Angie, supposed event GM has special title compared to the other GM, when they should be on equal standing.

https://imgur.com/a/nx1waMZ (https://imgur.com/a/nx1waMZ)

Another thing showing bias and incompetence by Kiwi is nearly constantly catering to one WoE guild's demands, the leader of the guild being her good friend too. One of the many things there was an issue about guildcap in WoE. The guild in question kept asking for higher cap all the time despite it meaning every other guild will be put at disadvantage due to it, and surely enough Kiwi agreed to raise the cap. After some time had passed, and player numbers dwindling due to the amount of issues and stagnation, she still didn't lower the guildcap due to the leading WoE guild wanting to keep it high.

https://imgur.com/a/0Ql2ch0 (https://imgur.com/a/0Ql2ch0)

Here she says she personally would want to lower the cap to give smaller guilds a better fighting chance, something a lot of people wanted too. But no, giving in to the demands again.

I'm here to unravel the truth about current essenceRO's situation and it's delusional admin. If you ever stumble across one of her server's, my advice is to save your time and money and stay clear of them. Now that eRO is going down again, with majority of people already quitting, Kiwi has a new project called CakeRO on the works, complete with her good buddy Angie as GM there.

https://imgur.com/a/OUyo2es (https://imgur.com/a/OUyo2es)

Also this subtle advertising is amazing, going through threads of dying RO servers with the name EssenceRO and trying to get people in to play your server. Good job.

https://imgur.com/a/Io2lqPA (https://imgur.com/a/Io2lqPA)

Lastly, to let you guys know how badly things are done there, here's a screen of their wiki, complete with instructions on how to become a US citizen. Bravo.

https://imgur.com/a/LqNOezc (https://imgur.com/a/LqNOezc)

Thank you for your time, and consider twice before joining.  /no1
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Dredgen_Auryx on Jul 26, 2020, 04:32 pm
tl;dr

Damn dude imagine getting dumpstered by TC so bad that you gotta come to a forum to slander someone (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/644606260758708225.png?v=1) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/644606260758708225.png?v=1) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/644606260758708225.png?v=1)

Maybe if you put this amount of effort into getting good you might be able to properly play a 20 year old game  /no1
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 05:06 pm
https://gyazo.com/f3a2bc34484dc2aa25881f3b251d3fab (https://gyazo.com/f3a2bc34484dc2aa25881f3b251d3fab)
^^^^^
Evidence when you get dumpstered so hard NATG quits server twice Guild cap 40+/32 and still lost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be)

Is this what you guys do when you guys lost so many woes in row? You guys bash a server and quit?XD

https://gyazo.com/524578c2dfbacb3933e9b23c9c55a8c2 (https://gyazo.com/524578c2dfbacb3933e9b23c9c55a8c2)

Marriage Heal gypsy dont make me laugh kid with bad jokes no one knows you br0

Look at this trash
https://gyazo.com/1398bbe654215632f9cb3732328a8e9d (https://gyazo.com/1398bbe654215632f9cb3732328a8e9d)
https://gyazo.com/f5367229f56e502af807c30dfcb2dfd6 (https://gyazo.com/f5367229f56e502af807c30dfcb2dfd6)
https://gyazo.com/9a6ffd8d1bf15ba1ca516cfaecfa725d (https://gyazo.com/9a6ffd8d1bf15ba1ca516cfaecfa725d)

Btw Aint no one know you trash player
https://gyazo.com/c312b96770539940658050ee64979b3d (https://gyazo.com/c312b96770539940658050ee64979b3d)
https://gyazo.com/268370e5e74f175a0feb3bba16813ce8 (https://gyazo.com/268370e5e74f175a0feb3bba16813ce8)

Next time you guys see NATG? Make sure you spit on them bash them talk s*** b**** slap them they wont do s***. They are just a bunch of quitting pussies and most of all send them this video of my regards thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be)


I know i was alittle mean crushed this kids soul and spirit but heres something to end it with a laugh for you all; the great leader of NATG, AJ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNz2nrh_R4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNz2nrh_R4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5JP4L90ZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5JP4L90ZI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RLvDPl1MHI&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RLvDPl1MHI&t=3s)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 05:09 pm
I love how their name is 'Not Another Trash Guild' and yet still gets trashed by a "social guild"

Next time, why dont you guys just call us out and not try to defame an entire server?

Comedy Goldmine.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AJ_LOST_TO_400MS_KEKW on Jul 26, 2020, 05:12 pm
imagine getting your s*** slapped so hard by a social guild you have to cry on RMS about an event GM having a different title on discord LMAOO

cute whine about gcap, 3 guild leaders were fine with it, not our fault you can barely scrap up 24 s***-tier mercenaries (like klosth, shoulda kept that monkey-a** looking dumbass on marriage healer) to fill in
(https://i.gyazo.com/3209f865377db292570311541578cd45.png)

keep grasping at straws aj, maybe your guild will do better in SHRs where you can zerg pinoys 20v10 (doubtful)

later b****, make sure to sub =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138)

easiest 32v45 ever
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 05:16 pm
BTW still waiting for your guys woe video REALLY want to see it I heard you guys were smashing tables and keyboards and your monitor cause you guys are so mad youre f*** GARBAGE. O wait you guys dont have one losing so many woes in a ROW f*** baddies worst than NSA

https://youtu.be/VqNalF_L028
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Dredgen_Auryx on Jul 26, 2020, 05:20 pm
Glad to see that ol' Junie still rages like a coke-fiend after playing the same game for 10+ years. You'd figure getting married would calm him down but guess not (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/644606260758708225.png?v=1)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 05:24 pm
Can we change the title of this forum from "The Fall of EssenceRO" to "The day NATG decided to fight back"
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 05:25 pm
Can we change the title of this forum from "The Fall of EssenceRO" to "The day NATG decided to fight back"

or should be titled: The day natg quits and their marcs and nightmare card with 200int didnt work XDDDD imagine being so bad you start blaming your cards not working
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AlistairePoole on Jul 26, 2020, 05:26 pm
Wait, Dredgen, so this guy brings up some legitimate points about GM item abuse, favoritism, lies, and poor management, and you just reply with "tl;dr"?? Did you look at the screenshots at all?

Very fishy. If nothing bad is going on behind the scenes at eRO, then you should be able to clear the GMs' names, no sweat. Do you guys hate this AJ dude this much that you're blinded by immature rage?
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 05:30 pm
Wait, Dredgen, so this guy brings up some legitimate points about GM item abuse, favoritism, lies, and poor management, and you just reply with "tl;dr"?? Did you look at the screenshots at all?

Very fishy. If nothing bad is going on behind the scenes at eRO, then you should be able to clear the GMs' names, no sweat. Do you guys hate this AJ dude this much that you're blinded by immature rage?

Immature rage? says the same nerds that quit twice then had to take it to RMS cause you guys suck ****? Im still waiting for your guys woe video where you guys  manage to win 1 GvG but its ok you wont post any cause you guys dont win just lose and complain. Trash at its finest.

Check my youtube channel if you wanna see The Creed Dumpster this s*** guild NATG theres 1 week with no video cause we made NATG quit. But they came back with the whole server merged together to fight us. AND STILL LOST
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 05:30 pm
Wait, Dredgen, so this guy brings up some legitimate points about GM item abuse, favoritism, lies, and poor management, and you just reply with "tl;dr"?? Did you look at the screenshots at all?

Very fishy. If nothing bad is going on behind the scenes at eRO, then you should be able to clear the GMs' names, no sweat. Do you guys hate this AJ dude this much that you're blinded by immature rage?


hey, would you like to provide screenshots proving the "said gm" was giving out items? very fishy if you believe that.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AJ_LOST_TO_400MS_KEKW on Jul 26, 2020, 05:34 pm
If nothing bad is going on behind the scenes at eRO, then you should be able to clear the GMs' names, no sweat.

????????XD a GM can @stat themself however they want as long they don't hit players in pvp/woe, why the f*** do we even need to defend that LOL are you retarded? I guess you're just another AJ fanboy, nice natg brain at work

still waiting for logs of items being passed from that GM char to a legit char btw, but you don't have those logs because you would 1000000000% have posted those by now

here, hold this L
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Dredgen_Auryx on Jul 26, 2020, 05:34 pm
Wait, Dredgen, so this guy brings up some legitimate points about GM item abuse, favoritism, lies, and poor management, and you just reply with "tl;dr"?? Did you look at the screenshots at all?

Very fishy. If nothing bad is going on behind the scenes at eRO, then you should be able to clear the GMs' names, no sweat. Do you guys hate this AJ dude this much that you're blinded by immature rage?
And which NATG member are you?

Every single one of those screens are taken out of context. While yeah, there may have been some incompetence behind the scenes none of it points to obvious corruption. All it shows is that some guilds can't take a loss and have to resort to underhanded s*** like this to discredit a server.

AJ, next time you want to beef, call out the guild in question.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Corey on Jul 26, 2020, 05:36 pm
imagine still being AJ in 2020
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 05:36 pm
Here is NATG crying about harassment like they dont do it on other servers:
https://gyazo.com/7be1f35410e5a82070ce4e7933762e29

Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AlistairePoole on Jul 26, 2020, 05:38 pm

hey, would you like to provide screenshots proving the "said gm" was giving out items? very fishy if you believe that.

There's no such claim in the original post. Did I completely miss it?
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AlistairePoole on Jul 26, 2020, 05:49 pm
And which NATG member are you?

Every single one of those screens are taken out of context. While yeah, there may have been some incompetence behind the scenes none of it points to obvious corruption. All it shows is that some guilds can't take a loss and have to resort to underhanded s*** like this to discredit a server.

AJ, next time you want to beef, call out the guild in question.

????????XD a GM can @stat themself however they want as long they don't hit players in pvp/woe, why the f*** do we even need to defend that LOL are you retarded? I guess you're just another AJ fanboy, nice natg brain at work

still waiting for logs of items being passed from that GM char to a legit char btw, but you don't have those logs because you would 1000000000% have posted those by now

here, hold this L

I'm not a NATG member, not a fanboy, I'm just interested in the truth behind all of this. I didn't even know these logs existed until about an hour ago when I saw this topic on the front page of RMS. The guild drama doesn't interest me -- the screenshots do.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AJ_LOST_TO_400MS_KEKW on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53 pm
The guild drama doesn't interest me -- the screenshots do.

then you will have to wait for logs of items being passed because so far they have none despite having access to admin panel =)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: blkpntr on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53 pm
I'm not a NATG member, not a fanboy, I'm just interested in the truth behind all of this. I didn't even know these logs existed until about an hour ago when I saw this topic on the front page of RMS. The guild drama doesn't interest me -- the screenshots do.

interested in the truth??

https://ibb.co/HxfJW68

you like the truth so much, you made two accounts?? My first fan-fiction had a little more substance that this bro!!
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53 pm
There's no such claim in the original post. Did I completely miss it?

the subject of the matter is you claim to believe the screenshots in the first post. Is that all we go by now a days? Have we lost our way of independent thinking? You tell me.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: blkpntr on Jul 26, 2020, 05:59 pm
remember when the fall of essencero was when the gms allowed land protector to stop thunderstorm and allow this poor scholar to die???
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 06:07 pm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698293149600055379/737068746165977092/unknown.png
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AJ_LOST_TO_400MS_KEKW on Jul 26, 2020, 06:07 pm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698293149600055379/737068746165977092/unknown.png

wow GM Angie using mind control on that poor pally to step up and shield boom
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: papachan on Jul 26, 2020, 06:09 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698293149600055379/737068746165977092/unknown.png)


nice job NATG. Talk about ur real faults here.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: blkpntr on Jul 26, 2020, 06:11 pm
Let's be real, the only crime eRO GMs really committed was not having enough ecchi in the loading screens so that NATG could enjoy them more.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Vulpecula on Jul 26, 2020, 06:13 pm
Here is NATG crying about harassment like they dont do it on other servers:
https://gyazo.com/7be1f35410e5a82070ce4e7933762e29

If you read that carefully, that was me saying that something wasn't reported in regards to NATG being harassed by a particular individual (who happens to also be a staff member). I simply stated NATG was aware of the immaturity of said (staff) member, and didn't feel that any action needed to be taken as that member already had enough on their plate with everything else that came to light!   /no1

Simmy
Slightly off topic, but I felt I needed to clarify this lol
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: PKStreet95 on Jul 26, 2020, 07:25 pm
interested in the truth??

https://ibb.co/HxfJW68

you like the truth so much, you made two accounts?? My first fan-fiction had a little more substance that this bro!!

This is my second account, yes. My first account was made in 2011, when I played the original eRO, but I couldn't remember the username because I haven't logged into RMS in years.

the subject of the matter is you claim to believe the screenshots in the first post. Is that all we go by now a days? Have we lost our way of independent thinking? You tell me.

No, I never said I believed them, just that Jupiters brought up some legit claims (as in, based upon his own evidence brought forth--evidence that had not yet been proven nor denied). That's why I was so surprised when people ignored them, because they're pretty strong accusations. From one side, I see rationality, and from the other, rage and incoherence. I understand that you're all on edge from whatever it is that happened, and you believe me to be some cohort of AJ's, complicit in his alleged defamation, but I can assure you, I was merely passing through and thought to ask about all the commotion going on. Little did I know I was stirring the hornets' nest, haha.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: blkpntr on Jul 26, 2020, 07:51 pm
This is my second account, yes. My first account was made in 2011, when I played the original eRO, but I couldn't remember the username because I haven't logged into RMS in years.

No, I never said I believed them, just that Jupiters brought up some legit claims (as in, based upon his own evidence brought forth--evidence that had not yet been proven nor denied). That's why I was so surprised when people ignored them, because they're pretty strong accusations. From one side, I see rationality, and from the other, rage and incoherence. I understand that you're all on edge from whatever it is that happened, and you believe me to be some cohort of AJ's, complicit in his alleged defamation, but I can assure you, I was merely passing through and thought to ask about all the commotion going on. Little did I know I was stirring the hornets' nest, haha.

Haha, you have quite the pen, good sir! Let me address thee in a manner in which thou may find more appealing. You happened upon this startling accusation, this bold appropriation of misfortune born by misdeeds of the accused, but, I assure you that you shall find no evidence whatsoever of the accused committing such misdeeds! Why yes, here we have comments posted on a day, January 31st 2020, in the very beginning of this babe of a server's life.

https://imgur.com/a/FsRNxTo
https://forum.essencero.net/index.php?/topic/667-oh-hi/

But, what do we say against [GM] Angie having the ability to @item? Well, if you happen to see her title and her involvement in due process of essenceRO, you will find that [GM] Angie is well above the status of a "sub-GM"; she is, in-fact, the head game master! Hence, her characters [GM] Angie and [GM] Event Angie! In fact, the incriminating screenshot itself is vindicating!

Ahh, but Black Panther! There is evidence of said [GM] Angie using @item to bring forth items such as the legendary Angra Maryu and having possession of such cards as Moonlight Flower, and the illustrious Beelzebub card! Surely there is something incriminating in possession of these cards! But nay, the original owner of this post provides no evidence of cards being relayed between the Game Master's account and a personal or guild-mate's account because it doesn't exist. An example was made of by another Event Guild Master with the ability to summon and kill monsters and obtain such cards, the likes of which the post stating that no one besides Kiwi, Kreustoo, and Tempy have the ability to @item reinforces.

https://forum.essencero.net/index.php?/topic/1009-unethical-behavior/

Only the minor oversight that [GM] Angie has @item, a command that Jupiter merely implies has been misused due to biases for the top guild on the server, the same guild that Jupiter seeks to clear of the defamation of skill and five consecutive losses thereunto, becomes the sin of essenceRO. This is not cause to avoid anything everything essenceRO related, but rather a reason to look at the step curve of losses by not another trash guild rather than the sinusoid ascension by The Creed.

https://youtu.be/fTQat9kg138
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: HMS Neptune on Jul 26, 2020, 08:01 pm
out of every route you could have gone, you didn't go down the path of least resistance and try calling tempy a lunatic or something?

that's a pretty bold play. glad to see it's going about as well as it should have
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: GodMexican on Jul 26, 2020, 09:44 pm

The desks have been smashed.
Keyboards have been smashed.
People were yelled at at least 3 times.

Its over.

It's all in the past now, but the future will still remain and NATG will keep being trash.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Neffletics on Jul 26, 2020, 09:52 pm
also have @item command at their disposal. Which they shouldn't, ever.

As long as the items do not circulate in the economy, that shouldn't be a problem. The GMs are sometimes asked if certain items are working as intended, so you can't really help it.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 26, 2020, 11:30 pm
This copy and paste from their discord from their "loyal" members got them sweating looking for a leak smh so imma end this with a Fck you and have a nice day=] if you missed the video that put them to sleep you can still watch it here dont miss out on 40 minutes of stomping them at 2nd stones! We got bored and let them have it and defend at 3rd cades giving them an advantage and STILL LOST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQat9kg138&feature=youtu.be)


Tryhard? More like straight trash kid https://gyazo.com/1b9228c6a7cc487ed56c374b42fe60f2 (https://gyazo.com/1b9228c6a7cc487ed56c374b42fe60f2)

Since NATG is now a dead guild and just a social guild. Ill help you guys recruit members since you guys cant. Heres their guidelines to join their trash guild. Btw CreedRO? More like AJ RO. Also MAIN RULE is you HAVE to have an good excuse to why we lost WoE or Gkick. Like My nightmare cards and marc cards wernt working. 200int still sleeping  /heh /heh /heh /heh /heh /heh

Heres the quote from NATGS leader:

(click to show/hide)


Best is when they most likely got dumpstered in unethicalRO did the same s***. Took it to RMS cause they suck =[ and dont forget to hold this L on your way out =]

Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Jupiters on Jul 27, 2020, 12:17 am
Well then.

Some interesting stuff came up here it seems.


hey, would you like to provide screenshots proving the "said gm" was giving out items? very fishy if you believe that.

I never said anything about those @itemed equips and cards making their way into circulation, why did you feel the need to bring something like that up? Is there something to get so upset over?

The issue I addressed there was event GMs having access to the command, which can turn ugly extremely quickly, hence they should not have it, period. Also the fact that Kiwi said only three people on the server have it so there's that too.

I don't care about who won WoE, I'm simply here to show people the questionable and shady things going on the server.

This is my second account, yes. My first account was made in 2011, when I played the original eRO, but I couldn't remember the username because I haven't logged into RMS in years.

No, I never said I believed them, just that Jupiters brought up some legit claims (as in, based upon his own evidence brought forth--evidence that had not yet been proven nor denied). That's why I was so surprised when people ignored them, because they're pretty strong accusations. From one side, I see rationality, and from the other, rage and incoherence. I understand that you're all on edge from whatever it is that happened, and you believe me to be some cohort of AJ's, complicit in his alleged defamation, but I can assure you, I was merely passing through and thought to ask about all the commotion going on. Little did I know I was stirring the hornets' nest, haha.

Unfortunately these are all the evidence I have to show, but what you're seeing here is this guild's usual tactics when presented with something that inconveniences them: Personal attacks, endless harassment and trying to divert the attention from the topic at hand by spamming something irrelevant like WoE videos. Almost all posts in this thread are offtopic and not about the issues I brought up at all.

As long as the items do not circulate in the economy, that shouldn't be a problem. The GMs are sometimes asked if certain items are working as intended, so you can't really help it.

True, though proper way of doing things would be getting rid of them after testing to prevent things like this from happening.

Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AJ_LOST_TO_400MS_KEKW on Jul 27, 2020, 12:39 am
I never said anything about those @itemed equips and cards making their way into circulation, why did you feel the need to bring something like that up? Is there something to get so upset over?

The issue I addressed there was event GMs having access to the command, which can turn ugly extremely quickly, hence they should not have it, period. Also the fact that Kiwi said only three people on the server have it so there's that too.

Literally anyone can read between the lines and see that you're implying Angie used @item to TC's advantage, who the f*** do you think you're fooling LOL

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I don't care about who won WoE, I'm simply here to show people the questionable and shady things going on the server.

"I don't care about who won WoE"
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Unfortunately these are all the evidence I have to show, but what you're seeing here is this guild's usual tactics when presented with something that inconveniences them: Personal attacks, endless harassment and trying to divert the attention from the topic at hand by spamming something irrelevant like WoE videos. Almost all posts in this thread are offtopic and not about the issues I brought up at all.

Ah yes the natg member playing the victim card, classic. No one is interested in civil discourse with you s***s because not a single soul wants any of you twats on the server, Kiwi should've cut off your guild like the tumor you are. You pieces of s*** harassed Saint non-stop before the rest of us even started playing on the server, you don't get to play victim here. Endless harassment? If we endlessly harassed you, your guild would've f***ed off months ago. Go troll more pinoy SHRs instead of crying wolf here on RMS.

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True, though proper way of doing things would be getting rid of them after testing to prevent things like this from happening.

"The proper way is to do things exactly the way I want" another natg classic

ps. can you post a woe vid from your side I want to hear AJ smash his desk and rage at his DLP
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 27, 2020, 12:44 am
https://gyazo.com/03c5a074251113a0fa69a92487bf8a80

Nah WoE videos arent relevant when you getting dumpstered and you guys have no GvG Videos to back up any of your so call claims of being a "GOOD" guild

Ill make a playlist on youtube of The Creed Dumpstering you guys 4 WoEs straight that lead to your guys rage quit if you like =]

But im sure you wont need me to do that. You were there. You know you guys got trashed and tossed around like a bunch useless s*** on spring cleaning

Since you guys love screenshots heres GM AJ pushing out s*** but everyone else is a cheater XD
 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699422752943374386/734926617863782460/unknown.png

Compensating for your guys trash sinx I see? and 0 breaks? must of never broken a castle in his life XD

https://gyazo.com/a215b1cbc79dd5facc789decbe47a8b1

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https://gyazo.com/84850590ff6a1e47d801fc02c87553fd

https://gyazo.com/f3235b16ac7e3c841c276b09ea6f079c

Look at this trash bag justify the buff https://gyazo.com/477fbf023e1b96a9056816dc932103b7

DENIED: https://gyazo.com/dcad1855c7d21746f6ac9111e34a0ea8

https://gyazo.com/f08aaa126b7cd5bd7af0fcf3d0c5ebd0

Heres a better sinx incase you wanna see the difference and BTW gittgudd kids should be change guildname to: "Ragequit when we lose"

https://gyazo.com/82dfd2ff26f272041eb0f749171dfbd9

Also: Bye felcia https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277764368525950976/737224348699590687/screenshots1_online-audio-converter.com.mp3


Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: blkpntr on Jul 27, 2020, 07:28 am
True, though proper way of doing things would be getting rid of them after testing to prevent things like this from happening.

And here we have it, admission that there's no proof of GM corruption. It was just a home-grown donkey.

Funny how we even have audio of your guild saying, "We don't have proof of them giving out items".  /wah /wah /wah
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 27, 2020, 07:37 am
And here we have it, admission that there's no proof of GM corruption. It was just a home-grown donkey.

Funny how we even have audio of your guild saying, "We don't have proof of them giving out items".  /wah /wah /wah

Should we release the audio leak that we put in their discord so everyone here can hear how sweaty they were during WoE? with all the excuses of their nightmare giearths and s*** not working?
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Tofuxo on Jul 27, 2020, 07:54 am
TL;DR A guild lost one woe and is chalking it down to the other guild cheating instead of just admitting they lost fair and square.
The evidence in this thread shows that a GM has the @item command but no proof at all that any items were transffered to other characters in game.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: RaptureRO on Jul 27, 2020, 03:47 pm
I am nobody. I played the server long ago and then the most recent rerelease I joined not with a guild but as a single nuetral player. I was active in voice and listened chatted and quit a month in when 3 days after the server went up I had already seen the writing on the wall. I am a firm believer in experiencing a server before writing a review.
I attached a picture of day 3 when, due to a simple scripting error, instead of increasing Golden Thief Bug's spawn time to 300%, the GM increased the actual spawn by 300%. There were 3 GTBs. This was after the 100% demihuman glitch that was made apparent. and before WoE. There was no rollback and no wipe. At least one card dropped before the server officially opened.  /wah. I understand GTB is not as overpowered on essence as other servers, but the OPs arguments all line up with everything I, a neutral party, experienced. From a biased perspective, everything screams poor management. Not immature, just poor. If the server is a passion project, then why the donates? "so i can pay for the server." Wrong answer.
Also, the people who were very active on voice and were the founding players ended up being the so-called Sub-GMs. I only know because I chewed one out for sexual harassment on voice.  :|. Oh eRO . Where did you go? 1/10.
As for any claims of corruption substantiated or no, I have no evidence to support this, but seeing as Kiwi seems especially cordial with certain people who I thought were players and turned out to be GMs despite not having sprites I call shenanigans.  /...
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AlicanteHermoso on Jul 27, 2020, 03:55 pm
Hi.

I like to think that people learn better, but instead of doing some sort of introspection, it is easier to blame performance issues, makes hackusations, claim by that some convoluted way that there were power abuse.

In no way was there a link of A+B proof given, but it's the time we live nowadays, hearsay is worth more than factual and empirical evidence.


Denial is a very powerful illusion, it gives the impression that you are impecable, and if anything goes wrong, everything around you is disfunctional.

The level of self-entitlment required for this is equivalent to believing that you're the belly button of the f*** world.


Keep smashing guys, take a dump on other people's work simply because it's not pleasing you.


Eternal peter pans.....
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: RaptureRO on Jul 27, 2020, 05:02 pm
I don't think I understood any of that.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 27, 2020, 09:27 pm
I don't think I understood any of that.

Ok dont worry watch this and you ll understand heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 27, 2020, 09:31 pm
Also that Cespy person. Holy s*** is she trash talking like shes ANY use whatsoever "AJ I quit i suck XD"... the only useful thing she did was try to bot and got banned instantly and you guys cried and rq l000l come back with more cheats bruh you guys still will suck kek

Should really just get good instead of trying to cheat and calling it "Packet shenanigans" but hey i would say that too if I got dumpstered with NDL XD

Heres also the difference between this Disney as$ guild Gypsies vs The Creeds look at that damage receive difference so bad and they had DEVO LMFAO...Look at their gypsies doing damage those AV so strong https://gyazo.com/d0b435869d73541d651d74ea0782d1d8 (https://gyazo.com/d0b435869d73541d651d74ea0782d1d8)
Lets not forget this aswell=]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 28, 2020, 12:41 am
Just to back up what i said about them being dumpstered in unethicalRO and quitting and slandering the server heres another woe video since i heard they are irrelevant to crying on RMS after being destroyed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HLLESKRPjM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HLLESKRPjM)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 28, 2020, 02:05 am
Also that Cespy person. Holy s*** is she trash talking like shes ANY use whatsoever "AJ I quit i suck XD"... the only useful thing she did was try to bot and got banned instantly and you guys cried and rq l000l come back with more cheats bruh you guys still will suck kek

Should really just get good instead of trying to cheat and calling it "Packet shenanigans" but hey i would say that too if I got dumpstered with NDL XD

Heres also the difference between this Disney as$ guild Gypsies vs The Creeds look at that damage receive difference so bad and they had DEVO LMFAO...Look at their gypsies doing damage those AV so strong https://gyazo.com/d0b435869d73541d651d74ea0782d1d8 (https://gyazo.com/d0b435869d73541d651d74ea0782d1d8)
Lets not forget this aswell=]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be)

Have fun zerging smaller guilds. Anything to win when youre just pure garbage. Even using the name Jupiter instead of LKJEWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Op6_Y1nUY&t=273s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Op6_Y1nUY&t=273s)
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: GodMexican on Jul 28, 2020, 09:13 pm
Ok dont worry watch this and you ll understand heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpdza_SOJKU&feature=youtu.be)

Listen to this for the next hit singles such as:
- Tracking the f*cking GYPSY
- Ode to Stone
- Stop F*cking LPing
- Stop Trolling Me
- The Secret of Gospel
- Foods are unnecessary

Written and orchestrated by AJ.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Kirenisia on Jul 28, 2020, 11:22 pm
hear go agen other ragnok at sever with MORE BIAS GM?????............ hope some can stop injustic nd hope ADMONITATOR KIWI CAN EXPLAN HER ACTION??????? give so many gm the @item???????? EVEN GM HAVE TRADE CAN AT A RAL PLAYER CHACTER??????????????????  /wah i am sad at ragnak states on this year 2020 alway more BIAS on sever anywear you go!!!!!!!................i think usa branwash gm with trump covid packig.........hope some can remedy this plz remeber BIAS WILL BE FROWN =[
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Rei Nyx on Jul 29, 2020, 03:20 am
hear go agen other ragnok at sever with MORE BIAS GM?????............ hope some can stop injustic nd hope ADMONITATOR KIWI CAN EXPLAN HER ACTION??????? give so many gm the @item???????? EVEN GM HAVE TRADE CAN AT A RAL PLAYER CHACTER??????????????????  /wah i am sad at ragnak states on this year 2020 alway more BIAS on sever anywear you go!!!!!!!................i think usa branwash gm with trump covid packig.........hope some can remedy this plz remeber BIAS WILL BE FROWN =[

Do this in order for me:

1. Show me your teeth.
2. Close your eyes and raise your arms.
3. Repeat after me: "Spilled milk is such a hassle"

If you're having any issues with these instructions, please, go get checked at a hospital, you may be suffering from a stroke.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Jul 29, 2020, 05:54 am
hear go agen other ragnok at sever with MORE BIAS GM?????............ hope some can stop injustic nd hope ADMONITATOR KIWI CAN EXPLAN HER ACTION??????? give so many gm the @item???????? EVEN GM HAVE TRADE CAN AT A RAL PLAYER CHACTER??????????????????  /wah i am sad at ragnak states on this year 2020 alway more BIAS on sever anywear you go!!!!!!!................i think usa branwash gm with trump covid packig.........hope some can remedy this plz remeber BIAS WILL BE FROWN =[

https://gyazo.com/008c4955959647e21c4572d9128ff354 (https://gyazo.com/008c4955959647e21c4572d9128ff354)

https://gyazo.com/e8003e5bb11b5b662234770f782e14d4 (https://gyazo.com/e8003e5bb11b5b662234770f782e14d4)

Damn 6 years later and your english still sucks must be one of those special kids.But luckily Ive seen alot of youtube ads about this program called "Grammarly"
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^Here use that then someone might want to read your post
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: monkeyblood on Jul 30, 2020, 02:50 pm
You know what is super impressive and a show of outstanding integrity of the EssenceRO Community? I read through the initial post and it all stated facts about server bias and how Kiwi is doing an extremely poor job delivering a server and immediately people started posting their petty arguments about WoE/GVG. How did you guys manage to digress this post that fast? It is unfortunate to see people can't even relate to a well put together and delivered post about the ongoing issues but instead talk trash about things the post isn't even about. This post is hilarious and really hits home with me because I knew it was coming before it even happened.

I played the original Essence and it was one of the best private servers I had ever played. The custom content was awesome, the community was decent and the pvp was ridiculously fun. Then the first remake happened and turned into a raging dumpster fire. Kiwi failed to deliver what was promised which was the old Essence but instead thought she could some how make it better, did whatever she wanted and murdered the server. And now the new remake is EVEN FURTHER from Essence. Why are you even branding it as Essence it is honestly embarrassing.

Once again thank you for your post showing the bias and the extremely poor job of a stubborn individual who has no idea how to deliver and provide for a community that lost it's home. That post about CrownRO dying honestly was hilarious because I feel awful for everyone who played old Essence and is trying to endure with this trash pit Kiwi calls Essence. Can't wait for this server to shut down and word of advice, don't call the next remake EssenceRO. This is not essence, nor will it ever be with Kiwi as admin. Make your own brand. Kiwi has put more dirt on this server's brand than any other toxic player old Essence has ever had. If there is going to be an Essence at least try and live up to the expectation of that, which is the old Essence RO that was one hell of a server. 
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Corey on Jul 30, 2020, 09:35 pm
and the pvp was ridiculously fun

lmfao who the fck is this guy

AJ is just sad that he is just as irrelevant as he was 10 years ago.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AlicanteHermoso on Jul 31, 2020, 05:15 am
You know what is super impressive and a show of outstanding integrity of the EssenceRO Community? I read through the initial post and it all stated facts about server bias and how Kiwi is doing an extremely poor job delivering a server and immediately people started posting their petty arguments about WoE/GVG. 


See here, I am going to question your intellectual integrity.

A well structured post doesn't equate with it proving anything.

1. She's asking for donations, because RO is an old game, because it takes time and means to make a server happen. That's an undeniable reality. Having donators doesn't necessarily call for biased decisions, or even giving said donators a specific advantage in the game. It's hearsay at this point.

2. GM's have access to @item, it's not new and creating items is questionable for many people, I understand.  But as I wrote before, where is the next step?
Because creating items on your GM account is one thing, transferring those created items into a non GM account is another. Those GM's created items. It's a fact.

Your intellectual integrity has to call here: if he had those screenshots, he could definitely have access to any  other type of transfer between a GM account and a non GM account.  No proof was given in the oh so well structured original post. Without proof of A+B, its basically hearsay, again.


3. The same people calling these slanders state particular bugs in which status would go through status immunity, where in several videos posted everywhere, both parties were having status on their characters.


With all this hearsay, I'm sorry, all we can do is mock, post videos of the Woe  where they lose, because it's bitterness, pettyness and childish behaviour.


Oh yeah, for your so called Ode to Integrity, the post rambles on about what it believes Kiwi to be as a leader and a GM, as well as how she manages her decisions.

Those are opinions, and as all people we squabble about them, but please don't transform such opinions into facts.

I like to make my opinions based on what I see and witness, not on what people say. Maybe you should do the same.





Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: AndyAwn on Aug 02, 2020, 06:12 pm
lmfao who the fck is this guy

AJ is just sad that he is just as irrelevant as he was 10 years ago.
Probably one of AJs goons cause cause read above quote and spoiler quote  /help /help /help /help O0 O0 O0

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Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: ZellDincht1226 on Sep 05, 2020, 02:29 pm
Just going to put in my two cents as a random player who decided to join this server for no particular reason (not knowing this used to be a tribute to an older server). When I joined the GM team was really active and put in a lot of work trying to make the server seem fun and active. They tried a lot with balancing cards, skills, and items overall. The times were really Asian-centric for a lot of things, especially WoE, which means I never got to participate, so I ended up just MvPing with people and playing Battlegrounds. Eventually I started to notice more and more how the GM/Dev team spent a lot of time doing their own thing, mostly ignoring feedback of the userbase just because they felt like they knew the right thing to do, which eventually made a lot of players mad and start leaving. Nobody can tell you how to run your server, but ignoring people is a good way to get it to die. Finally, out of nowhere, the decision was made to basically try and start over because of the "stagnating playerbase", which imo was done through no fault of their own, and they ended up making a new server, CakeRO, which honestly seemed like a pretty deliberate attempt to assassinate the server and make it seem like they did no wrong. For the past few months, the server has been left for dead with not a care in the world, completely unmanaged and run by nobody. I'm honestly surprised it's even online.

tl;dr I feel like at some point there was a deliberate attempt to just kill the server and maybe salvage some of the playerbase to do their own thing.
Title: Re: The fall of EssenceRO
Post by: Tira on Nov 07, 2020, 10:52 am
Wish people would stop ruining my s***. 😬