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Started by James Bong, Jan 09, 2012, 09:49 PM

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James Bong

Not entirely sure if this is the right section, couldn't find the good ol' hall of shame.
Alright thing is i've started on the server today(i knew the admin from his old server BlazeRO) but that's beside the point.
Me and a friend of mine were talking in prontera (granted we were kidding about a custom title "Sturmstaffel" since the server supports custom titles), which was the only thing we said which could've been taken to heart by anyone, he told me he'd ban me for it but went afk. we kept on talking and suddenly i got my account blocked(no warning whatsoever).
I can live with this but what follows now is simply ridiculous, he banned my friend with the sole reasoning of him using "[email protected]" which means "f*[email protected]" to register his account.

this is all the proof i could get at this time, sadly it's in german but i hope someone will verify my translation on the matter


INTERIORKROKODIL: why did i get blocked now?
Versus: you won't give up croco?
Versus: because i'm not in the mood for nazi s***
INTERIORKROKODIL: was that a mac adress block
INTERIORKROKODIL: or ip range?
Versus: and your friend who's using emails here as if he's mentally disturbed
INTERIORKROKODIL: lol
INTERIORKROKODIL: who cares about the email?
Versus :me
INTERIORKROKODIL: that'll be a nice review on rms(actually im too lazy to do a full review kind of misphrased that)
Versus: not in the mood for rtl niveau (rtl is a tv channel showing s*** only)
Versus: yeah go ahead that's worth it to me if you're gone then
INTERIORKROKODIL: i hope it'll help you
INTERIORKROKODIL: i will...

TL;DR ADMIN MIGHT BAN U FOR USING AN EMAIL WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED OFFENSIVE TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT

Aurora™

I must say, I've seen owners ban for a lot less, but that does suck. I'm sorry to hear you and your friend went through that.

It is pretty weird. A German owner talking about his German players being nazis because  they use slightly vulgar words, which aren't even that bad compared to what they could be. That's kind of funny, in a way. Not only the part that he's German and insulting his own nation by using the term Nazi for someone that's German, when being German doesn't even insinuate that.

Chemical Crush

I find it ironic that he is freely using the word Nazi yet look at this

http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/sevenro-banned-before-the-opening/

Lol?

Second 'rant and rave' post i've seen about this server, Admin seems pretty incompetent.  But as Aurora said, I've seen/heard of people being banned for even more ridiculous reasons.  But why ban a player cause of his email?  How is that affecting the community or anything?  Oh well, just find a better server, believe me there are a ton out there with a more competent admin/gm team.

Sorry to hear what you went through though =/

Mind

Its sad that this had happened to you.  But honestly, there are by far better servers around  :)

I also got banned by Balmung/Versus because a friend of mine had an argument with him :) When I asked why I got banned, I got the answer that he doesn't want people like him on the server and if I'm his friend, then I shall get the *** out of his server as well ;) I mean, being banned for only being a friend of whom he doesn't like is reason enough.

Versus

#4
both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so :) if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.


i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.

rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great! :D

Strudel

screenshot or it didn't happen.
I can read german and from what I've seen up there in the picture which was, very small. But readable, you didn't seem to care at all. And banning somebody for their e-mail, that's very mature. Especially because nobody but you or other GM's with the right level can see them.

Triper

RTL was so good in the past ): Good kid years I had watching it and RTL2 later on q.q[/offtopic]

WOOOOOOOOOW that's what I call a retarded admin.
So people now can't have stupid mails because it offends the admin? That's new to me  /heh
Even if it was a char name it would be stupid since is just a retarded/rage name and the mail is hidden to players anyway...

Mind

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.


No lie :) It happened on BlazeRo. hm few months ago. and it seems like you dont remember, since you banned like your whole server during your rage periods.

I could have made an report on rms forums long ago, and I do have everything saved - and Im sure now youre crying for the screens. Dont worry. Im sure I'll make use of them when theres more reports of you coming in or when you open your next 3.0 server. Well, a server who generally copies everything from epicro.

http://epicro.de/page/index.php?location=gold_coin_angebote#donationliste

http://www.sevenro.eu/index.php?content=goldcoinsystem

suprisingly close. But Im amazed - You finally managed it to change a few headgears and values. Not like on your old blazero, when you fully copied the whole sheet :)

Good luck Versus/Balmung. Looking forward for more reports of you coming in.

Versus


Strudel

Wait doesn't Talon also have this?
But instead they call it Talon Coin.

Lucian

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so :) if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.


i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.

rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great! :D
Theirs a lot of Nazi calling accusations up there, I'd love to see these screenshots posted.

Also, RMS has always been this way.

Mind

Quote from: Strudel on Jan 10, 2012, 02:50 PM
Wait doesn't Talon also have this?
But instead they call it Talon Coin.

its not about the coins :) its about the list in general. copied the whole coin prices etc :]  but atleast he didnt copy them 1:1 this time, like he did with his blazero server ;)  originality is something rare these days.

Daikido

1/1 Novice with CAPSLOCKNAME is obviously not a serious player.
i would have done the same.

Banning for insults in email-adress is kinda strange...

i want some screens from Versus just to have some fun in this topic  /no1

James Bong

#13
Alright, let me clear a few things up here.
I did play on his old server called BlazeRO but by no means did i cheat, actually what i did was tell him about abuseable bugs in his npcs.(apparently if you're finding abuseable bugs and reporting them you're automaticly a cheater, which is pretty hilarious since i was the one who told him to get protection ala harmony heck he even gave me donation gear for finding a bug)
We've not once asked if we could name our guild Sturmstaffel only if it was availible as custom title.
The player who has been with me and got banned for the email has actually  played ragnarok the last time 4years ago with me on EbilRO(good old times) so your argument saying he's been with me on BlazeRO is simply BS.
1/1 Novice with CAPSLOCKNAME is obviously what i used to logon via proxy after getting banned without any proper warning whatsoever.
As a matter of fact as i have stated in my OP that i have no problem whatsoever with getting banned myself because of that(even tho it's ridiculous, heck i have a 6year long ragnarok history and his servers are the first where people can't take a few nazi jokes without qqing, guess that's cause they're germans themselfs? i'm german and i have no problem with it.)
the reason i did post this topic was my friend getting banned for using an email address the admin didn't like.
you're apparently as terrible at reading as you are at scripting(anubis daily still bugged reqs trololo).


edit: also the player we were said to fight with was actually someone we've known from 4years back, which was the last time my friend had played ro anywhere, as long as the guy in question is Johnny Logen.

Aurora™

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

There's a lot to say about this, but I'll touch on it on a later quote.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so :) if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

Schutzstaffel = Protection Squadron. I speak German, and anyone with a crappy google translator can translate this. Sure, it was part of the SS reich, but only someone looking to ban another person would use something from history as an excuse, and throw around accusations of that person being a Nazi, especially after they made it clear they were kidding. Have proof they were being racist or indignant? Show it. However, what you did to them is also considered Cyber Bullying. Pretty major thing. Google it.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.

So, the key word here is a past tense word. They cheated on your old server, but you're using that as a backup means? How does that make sense? I definitely think that's a grounds to lose half of your player base. Are you going to ban someone because they said they botted on a completely different server than the one they're currently on? Even if you'd seen it before or banned them for it before, you can't just go around banning people for past offenses. While this is the internet, and your server is your server, there is such a thing as a moral code.

As for your other two points, again. Cyberbullying.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

Yeah. I do respect history. I'm a history major. I teach history. And? While bad things happened in history, people joke about it all the time. I'm guessing you've never cracked a racist joke with a friend or something stupid pertaining to the past? What's the point of having history if you can't laugh about it when it becomes history? I make Nazi jokes all the time, and make them with my German friends, whether it's in German or talking about myself acting like a Grammar Nazi, or a Pronunciation Nazi. There's so many ways to joke about stuff in history, and punishing someone for it the most godawful stupid thing I've heard of.

Also, proof please.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.  rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great! :D

Proof please.

Also, RMS has always been a troll and drama center. This isn't news. It's also a community full of people who have enough common sense to decide between a whiny player who got what they deserved, or a corrupt administrator/staff member that did something they probably shouldn't have.

Lysander

To put it simply, running a server requires a customer-oriented service model. There are two types of Admins: those that understand that, and those that don't. The former knows that there may be clients that they might not agree with, but acknowledge their right to play regardless (so long as said player doesn't impede the enjoyment of others). The latter, that doesn't know what it means to be customer-oriented, thinks only of themselves and how everything affects only them.

If you're the latter, run a server with only yourself on it.

Karuna-tan

Wouldn't exactly call the players on this server good:



That's just sad, honestly. Find a good way to recruit players, like posting on RMS and such instead of advertising the server on other servers. >_>
"Howard, you do know I've got a number of ways to poison you. In your sleep. Your food. You don't want that to happen do you?"

Strudel

rofl this is so sad.. ):
I don't like avrisro either for their constant bad reviews and their incapable gm's but doing this isn't the way it should be done either..

Karuna-tan

Yeah. When you play on a server already and try out another server, you are kind of representing the server you mainly play on - needless to say, this particular SevenRO player does not give me a good image of his/her server. The good news however are that this particular person got banned quickly after I reported about this on the forums.
"Howard, you do know I've got a number of ways to poison you. In your sleep. Your food. You don't want that to happen do you?"

Triper

You forgot that you don't know if it was the admin or the players doing that even if it looks bad both ways.

Karuna-tan

To be brutally honest here, I don't give a crap whether it was just a normal player or the admin doing it. All I care about is that it was done and it was, in a way, insulting. It's nice to know that some other players who play on other servers think they're (the other servers I mean) good, but instead of being an idiot and advertising on another server's main chat, you could just post a review here and hope someone actually is impressed by it so much that they want to try the server out. That's all I'm saying. Anyways, just wanted to post that screenie here instead of making a new topic - I know this topic is mainly about the admin/etc, but it's not a bad idea to let people know what kind of people play on that server. Not saying all of them are doing this kind of crap, but at least one of them did.
Yes, call me an idiot for enjoying playing on Avris (but hey, I'm not into the PvP/WoE scene so I'm happy with the server so far).
"Howard, you do know I've got a number of ways to poison you. In your sleep. Your food. You don't want that to happen do you?"

Lysander

I fully agree with you, Karuna. SevenRO should ask Avris's Admins for that player's IP and ban him, in my opinion. Otherwise it leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouths.

Triper

If the player was the admin that will be useless lol It would just look like "I has a unicorn and I look cuuuuuute" and made the right decision. Ofc there are ways to check if both are the same or not but whatever.

Fino

Quote from: Strudel on Jan 16, 2012, 07:40 AM
rofl this is so sad.. ):
I don't like avrisro either for their constant bad reviews and their incapable gm's but doing this isn't the way it should be done either..

sorry to bring it up in this topic but you guys aint better :c


Strudel

1. You're still alive o_o
2. Excuse me but we can't do anything about our players going to other servers and advertising.
You've already made your point. And not only that but from what I remember (screens not available) players were dragged from our server (Metro) to yours via our old members. Well I guess to bad considering the server is down now, while ours is still up. Desperately searched for a screenshot but found none, I only know because of the ban logs that we've banned a person advertising some HanamiRO advertiser, who or what ever that server is.

Fino

Look who's talking.
It got nothing to do whether the server is up or not. But seems you're quite familiar with s*** excuses. Well before you call people incompetent and sad, you may rethink your own actions.

Im out of here :> have fun.

Aurora™

No offense, Fino, but the staff of a server has nothing to do with what other players do from their server. Sure, they can reprimand them, but the only way they can do that is if the staff from your server approaches them regarding the person, in private.

But I guess the people that lurk RMS are notorious for being unable to settle things in a diplomatic manner. =\

Triper

I remember someone at NeuRO's forum[I think it was one of the Helpers/GM[not Fino but was one of them]] talking about how he and some others were fine at LimitRO and some players from NeuRO started to pm people in game at LimitRO to go to NeuRO because was the server of the moment so you can't say much too Fino.