Started by Lordy_J, Apr 09, 2022, 10:22 PM
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Quote from: Herpderp on Apr 14, 2022, 10:18 AMBanned from the Ragnarok reddit as well. The first server to ever get a complete ban, congrats!
Quote from: Phillistia on Apr 15, 2022, 02:36 AMI wonder why people keep playing in this server
Quote from: lungo on Apr 15, 2022, 09:26 AMNow, this whole botting thing and bought reddit accounts while I don't approve it (if it happened), I'm pretty sure a lot of servers have done this in the past or are actively doing it but they are not caught because not many people are watching them 24/7 like it happened on TravelsRO, so once again there is a double standard here being applied and a lot of hypocrisy.
Quote from: Inspector Clouseau on Apr 15, 2022, 07:38 PMIt seems that even after this debacle and exposure for wrongdoing, the preaching of the sock puppets still persists. The same claims that only cheaters are wrongly attacking the server, and the emphasis on how "accurate" the mechanics are read like right off of the server's website. The ruse is so obvious, it's baffling why they still keep trying.I will point out that psychology studies show that people who engage in unethical behavior are prone to thinking the same practice is more prevalent among more people. In other words, if you believe many other people cheat, chances are you cheat yourself. Not only are you making false assumptions that other servers manipulate their votes, but then you complain of hypocrisy based on these assumptions alone.It might be the case that some other servers have tampered with their ratings, though which ones and to what extent, no one can say. What everyone can generally agree with, however, is that the instances where this occurred with Ragnarok Travels were blatantly obvious and tiring.
Quote from: lungo on Apr 15, 2022, 09:32 PMOn the same sentence you say I am wrong and then that I am right. I am not a cheater and before saying what I said i clearle stated: "Now, this whole botting thing and bought reddit accounts while I don't approve it (if it happened)..."The only reason you believe Travels was more "blatant" is because it had a heavy BIAS againt it, too many eyes were watching their every move so I believe if we checked all the servers with the same scrutiny we would find many that have done the same.
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 15, 2022, 11:55 PMIt was only blatant because of... people's biases?Two bought reddit accounts which we know for a fact were accounts purchased, nearly a thousand votes manipulated in packages of 25 each (with a few being 50), "evidence" posted on these accounts were discrediting a guild with carefully cropped screen shots from their own private discord to remove context and doctoring false screenshots for evidence to support their false narrative. More so, these accounts only knew things that only the staff at the server should know.
Quote from: Shuchou on Apr 16, 2022, 12:31 AMThose of us that have been trying to warn others about the truth for the last year will live rent free for life in the hearts of Lord J
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 16, 2022, 01:49 AMWhat about the burner accounts the guild that got banned for cheating used? And no one knows who manipulated votes and even if they were (in either direction) theres no evidence that the staff was involved at all. Thats your conjecture. And the accounts youre talking about havent posted screenshots so thats a lie the only screenshots I saw were from the thread exposing the guild.Another misleading statement is that anyone got their privacy breached when it was a person in their own guild who reported the cheating talk and the insults themselves afaik. The banned guild itself admitted they had a mole and that mole couldve given them to any number of people. Basically you are peddling a bunch of misleading statements to push a biased agenda because its your server competitionI mean given that youre still talking about him and he doesnt know who you are sounds like he's rent free in your head PS Travels isnt going anywhere? There are servers with 1000s of players not on rms. Im on and its normal business here